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Summary: Met a friend who I thought to be faithful, of course she turned out to be a total slut.

A while ago I was travelling to big European city to meet an old acquaintance who I met through hobbies. I would say that she is a solid 8, but she's getting older and will soon hit the wall (she recently turned 30).

She has a boyfriend who is a total loser - old, stuck in a shitty job, has a beer belly and probably never lifted. For this reason I thought that sex would be off the table and just came to see her as a friend (I was fine about this, she is nice and we get along).

Well, one thing led to another and we ended up in bed. After sex we started talking about fetishes, and she wanted to share some of hers. Her first fetish was to be 'taken forcefully', i.e. a rape fantasy. Her second fetish was to be fucked by total strangers, and she fantasized a lot about some foreign, darker skinned, guys at her workplace. During the second night she wanted me to fuck her in the ass and said that she dreamed about being double penetrated.

Of course she was also hamstering all the time. She drank a little alcohol and later claimed that she was drunk and it all "just happened". Of course this was not true. She had also bought some sexy lingerie for this particular trip. She also said that this will be the last time we meet and have sex like this, only to start planning our next meeting in another city maybe 30 minutes after saying this. Finally she suggested that we do something "kinkier".

To conclude, I would like to list some of the things that she found arousing in me:

  • Broad shoulders, good body, strength
  • That I am not talking all the time and asking stupid questions like "Are you okay?", "Are you having fun?" or "Is something wrong?"
  • That I don't judge her actions
  • That I just do and take what I want in bed
  • That I have goals in life and prioritize them over other stuff

At times I have been quite skeptical about some of the stories shared here. I have felt that people really can't be this stupid and have this kind of cognitive dissonance in their thinking. After this weekend I spent with her, I am convinced that AWALT is the truth. Red pilling yourself gives an immense advantage in mating and it also helps you avoid many mistakes guys make with girls.

[–]Ricardo2991290 points291 points  (23 children) | Copy

Nice girl who has a bf meeting up with an "old acquaintance" for drinks. I saw enough right there. Cmon bruh. Use your brain.

[–]LotBuilder126 points127 points  (20 children) | Copy

Exactly, when a female “friend” from the past reaches out to you it means she either wants sex or money. If it’s money, she thinks you are a chump.

[–]Poutvora34 points35 points  (19 children) | Copy

Give me one example when I am giving some girl with a boyfriend my money. I know there are men that give money to girls online and for free. But if some girl came to me personally and asked for free money I would have a problem not to laugh.

[–]LotBuilder120 points121 points  (18 children) | Copy

Happens quite a bit in my circle of friends. We are in our 40’s and have acquired some wealth. It’s likely different for younger guys. It isn’t uncommon for ex employees, or sales reps, or a clients personal assistant, etc to reach out wanting to meet for lunch. Inevitably they want you to invest in their new BS (photography, gift basket, interior design, personal training, lifestyle blog, etc) business. They just want to quit the corporate world (hating accountability) and be an entrepreneur but don’t want to risk their own money. They will definitely fuck you to get it done. I just kind of get a feel for the girl, her sanity, how much I want to fuck her, etc. Then I’ll set up an off site planning session at a nice hotel in a nice area (I’m in Northern CA so Napa, Carmel, Tahoe) and bang her all weekend while pretending to business plan. Then I’ll “have my attorney review the proposal” and act disappointed when he shoots down the plan. They can’t really complain about being used because they thought they were working me over.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like your style. I wanna be you in two decades.

[–]czatara28 points29 points  (11 children) | Copy

This is brilliant! These kinds of sexual strategies should be more discussed here, it is like a perfect blend of BJJ and TRP. Despite lifting and improving oneself, most people will not reach Chad-level in their lifetime. Your comment shows a very interesting strategy, use her "beta-bucks" seduction routine against herself.

[–]LotBuilder27 points28 points  (10 children) | Copy

It’s very effective because you can always turn it into “you mean you only slept with me because you thought I was going to give you money?” They can hamster anything but when you draw a clear line between them having sex for money they need to then pretend they didn’t have sex for money. It’s easier for them to pretend that 3 day weekend never happened than it is to admit what actually happened.

[–]memphisjohn17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy

^ 100% concur and validate from my own personal experience. I've taken a chick who "has a steady serious bf" on weekend trips "just as friends" and of course we banged all weekend. There wasnt even any pretense of business planning or other BS, only that I mentioned I was going to a cool place for the weekend and she jumped at the chance to travel.

[–]LotBuilder26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

That goes back to SMV. If you have cool things and do cool stuff, girls want to play along. If I have a boat and bunch of booze and music tee’d up on Saturday morning... and their BF sleeps till 3pm because he was playing video games and smoking weed... who do you think is going to win. Yeah, I’m 40 and overweight and would not be these girls ideal boyfriend... but if you are fun and have charisma and can create fun moments, you can shoot way above your league.

My married friends started calling me the bootleg Dan Blizerian after my divorce.

It doesn’t have to be expensive all the time, it just has to be fun and trigger her Adrenaline, dopamine, and oxytocin. If you can do that she suddenly thinks you are sexy af.

[–]PMmepicsofyourtits3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Boats are an adventure, a status symbol and a mobile hotel room. No wonder Saudi princes buy them in bulk.

[–]LotBuilder5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Motorcycles are good too, I’m pretty sure I banged every girl that ever went for a ride.

[–]diamondstudz2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

when you go on these trips, do you pay for everything? transportation, hotel, food, activities, etc.

[–]memphisjohn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, split everything. Because "friends" ... the sex "just happened"

[–]diamondstudz0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

question is, when you go on these trips, do you pay for everything? transportation, hotel, food, activities, etc.

[–]LotBuilder1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

The appear more professional from the start I have them drive separately and pay for their own room. We are 2-3 hours max from home. I pay for food and drinks, there are not really any outside activities that cost. I am not saying this to brag but spending $750-1000 on a nice weekend is insignificant to me.

The approach can be scaled up or down in terms of age and money spent.

[–]diamondstudz-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

i tend to agree with you, and i hate being a cheapskate - i'd much rather be able to afford that kind of money especially as i get older.

but many people on this sub would claim, bro you're being a beta bucks!!!

they do have a point though, because do you really think these women when they were younger expected the chads they fucked to spend a dime on them, much less close to a grand?

nope, they were the booty calls for the chads, and now that they're much older, guys like you and me are paying hundreds of dollars for the opportunity to to fuck them

[–]LotBuilder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s all relative to age and wealth, in my social circles BB is literally supporting them, marrying or carrying them financially. You know all those Instagram chicks that travel constantly... they are banging a (or many) old dudes to make that happen. I don’t go that route (often). A three day weekend in Tahoe or Napa banging it out is the social equivalent of pump and dump in my world. It’s not outside of my normal lifestyle with or without them.

Sure, this chicks might fuck a tennis instructor back in his shitty apartment but I can’t take 15 years off the clock and I really like banging hot 23 year olds so you make some minor adjustments to TRP. I can fuck good looking girls in their late 30’s all day long, but that’s not what makes me happy.

[–]BrandonMontour6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Happened to my dad. Total poor bitch and i went thru his messages and found he gave her 32 fucking thousand! Luckily that’s over now

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ouch. I never spend real money on women. Dinner, fun outtings, the occasional trinket, nothing that would cause me to think twice. Every few times with the same girl, I show up and say "it's your turn!". They usually treat with a smile and an "of course!".

[–]SuperCrazy072 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Happens quite a bit in my circle of friends. We are in our 40’s and have acquired some wealth.

My friends and I are in our 40s too...and I don't know a single one who would give money to a chick they don't know on the internet (this is what the post above you was referring to). That dumb fuckery is for younger guys.

But I love your "investor" approach for a weekend with a hot chick.

[–]iwastheproblem[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

We have met before and it was not just for drinks, we did some hobby-related activities, too.

But you are right, it was obvious. And reading this forum has helped me to notice these things and be more active with my efforts. I really was clueless before.

[–]BlackendLight2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can sympathize, I was incredibly naive about these things as well in my blue pill phase and in the beginning stages of red pilling.

[–]ExternalKing243 points244 points  (27 children) | Copy

I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a "nice girl"

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain278 points279 points  (7 children) | Copy

Nice girls are just bad girls with great game.

[–]savoysprouts33 points34 points  (4 children) | Copy

I like what your on to here

[–]sky_fallen4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes please elaborate

[–]2Overkillengine10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

It means they are good at telling you what you want to hear, and showing you what you want to see.

Knew a girl that would put on the whole Christian facade at work but was cheating on her husband.

She wore a crucifix around her neck where everyone could see, but had butterfly tattoos on her pelvis; conveniently lower than low rise jeans would show.

[–]Ben_Eszes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just look up "good girl game." It's one way a female can 'spit game.'

[–]MuhTriggersGuise4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Which can actually be a lot of fun.

[–]ollie55568 points69 points  (12 children) | Copy

They pretend to be to lure us in

[–]the_real_lunch_box19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

We don't believe in unicorns. AWALT

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are the equivalent of a nice guy. Basically the crazy girls. “Don’t stick your dick in the crazy”.

[–]sebmathews4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait, i thought sluts WERE nice girls.

[–]The_Chiselnator103 points104 points  (5 children) | Copy

There are no nice girls. There are only nicer ones. Nicer than others. Intrinsically all women are just dormant cannibals

[–]BrontanamoBay24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dormant cannibals. I love it.

[–]ZestyyyClamMeat-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

dormant cannibals? plz explain

[–]The_Chiselnator2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

No. I won't explain as it is self explanatory.

[–]Westerncaesar311 points312 points  (47 children) | Copy

There all sluts for the right guy.

[–]myrodia295 points296 points  (9 children) | Copy

Cmon man. They're. They are. Not 'over there'

[–]Westerncaesar40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hahaha. Made even worse because I'm British..

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The apostrophe is for the word split to "they are". "There", no apostrophe means the other way: as in over there. If you get it wrong, their grammar police are going to start cringing then yelling.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire231 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's c'mon, man. Also, where is your period at the end of 'over there?'

[–]myrodia 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

where is your period

Wow, I had to stop reading right their you misogynistic piece of shit.

[–]Menchstick20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thinking periods are taboo is so fucking misogynistic you neckbeard redpill loser, where have all the good men gone?????????

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire231 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's you who are the misogynist. Real men anally rape themselves with a spoon once a month so they experience a wymyn's plight.

[–]morexel 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

My imagination runs wild now as to what was deleted.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh, he was just joking around, and then I one-upped him. lol

[–]Dyskord01110 points111 points  (14 children) | Copy

I'm losing my faith in good women. Went to night clubs recently. The younger 18+ girls aren't afraid to approach and say I want to do you. Or fucc me tonight. I ain't complaining just saying these are beautiful girls giving it away. At the moment I'm happy but I wouldn't think of wifing any of them.

[–]Westerncaesar77 points78 points  (0 children) | Copy

That in it's essence is exactly what the pill is about!! when sex is what we want and it's so easy to get, why on earth would we settle for anything other then the best any women could offer.

[–]red_matrix34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

They're the new generation of strong, independent women! They also want to be married, kids, career, money, wild sex on the CC every weekend, and a loving, understanding husband who accepts her "modern" lifestyle. And sadly...guys are giving in and lining up to be that beta cuck husband.

[–]FeelTheBernieSanderz16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I feel you. Even if you meet a nice girl and want to settle down (theoretically), their past in their even younger days makes me shudder.

[–]joner8889 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

We need a apocalypse so we can create a spartanic traditionalists society from the ashes .

[–]untonyto9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meanwhile somewhere her lonely future husband is painstakingly accumulating the property she will show up to split in half.

[–]3d_truth5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

You mean they cold approach you with this? How hot are you?

[–]Dyskord0114 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Pretty normal I think. I workout and dress sharp. Besides I doubt I'm the only dude that's been approached like this.

[–]geo_gan4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ever get the thing where girls who are looking and smiling and giggling at you in a club come over one by one, turn around, and reverse their miniskirt ass into your crotch and grind up/down for a few seconds before moving away and letting the next girl take her turn at same thing? I have. It seems to be primitive mating behavior of horny young females. You just have to give them a look that tells them they are beneath you, then they have to try and tempt you into falling for their trap.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear22210 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good women in a nightclub? Never. Good women at whole foods at 8am on a Saturday? Probably still no, but better odds.

[–]Kriotus5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm losing my faith in good women

There is your problem, there is no such thing as a "good woman." There never has been, they were the same in the 20s, 50s and 80s and they are the same right now.

[–]SuperCrazy071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, it's not like in the past girls were all innocent. I was in college in the mid-90s and the vast majority of the girls were whoring it up like their life depended on it.

Super funny that a couple years ago a big facebook group for our school started and I got to see all these girls - who had a couple of different dicks in them every week - with the pictures of the hubby and kids.

[–]number1shittalker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would only wife a billionaire at this point. What's the point of marrying a woman unless I can divorce rape her? That's what they do to us.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

C'mon, man. If you really are British, it should be bluddy sloots!

[–]rigbed34 points35 points  (19 children) | Copy

My 17 year old sister is still a virgin and has never watched porn past a documentary on pornography and yet fantasizes about threesomes.

[–]bigtom489 points90 points  (10 children) | Copy

You talk to your sister about fantasies? Lol

[–]rigbed23 points24 points  (7 children) | Copy

Well this does make it sound pretty bad but she was feeling particularly voluble

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Honest question, does she fantasise about FFM threesomes or FMM ones?

[–]okuli3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

So far I only met women who fantasize about FMM.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

They need to be of sufficient diversity in age, socio-economic ladder, attractiveness etc etc etc, to be considered a viable sample.

Imma take a wild guess and say you talk threesomes only with women of a certain age group.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So far I only met women who admit to fantasizing about FMM.


The 3 most common "kink" fantasies of women are being tied up, spanked, or with another woman. Not in any particular order.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

is says she is still a virgin

has never says she has has never watched porn

There, fixed that for ya

[–]FratboyOnReddit8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep yep. Constantly heard the "popular girls" talking about a group of my friends and having threesomes, crazy fantasies etc.

At that time in HS, (probably Soph) I was blown away by this and thought it was just them.


[–]Wilreadit1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Have you checked her virginity?

[–]rigbed2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yep I’m gonna stick my dick in and feel around

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Right, let me tell you what's going down here:

  • she's getting older and will soon hit the wall (she recently turned 30).
  • She has a boyfriend who is a total loser - old, stuck in a shitty job, has a beer belly and probably never lifted.
  • She had also bought some sexy lingerie for this particular trip.

I've seen this happen a few times. The 'good' girl may have been with this dude for a while. She's been giving him the benefit of doubt that he's gonna break out and make it. The wall is approaching, though, and she knows she's running out of time to abandon ship before she's stuck with him so she starts looking around towards other providers.

She also said that this will be the last time we meet and have sex like this, only to start planning our next meeting in another city maybe 30 minutes after saying this. Finally she suggested that we do something "kinkier".

I can just about guarantee that at the next meetup the word 'relationship' gets introduced. She's looking for a branch to swing to.

TLDR: She's getting old, and realizes the boyfriend is going nowhere so she's fishing for another provider.

[–]iwastheproblem[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, all the signs are there. I will enjoy this situation as long as it last, but I have no intention to stick around and start a relationship with her (or with anyone).

[–]SKRedPill41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy

The very nature of female sexuality is also the very reason why it is hidden like a mystery. But in general one doesn't have to think too hard - they're complimentary to male sexual fantasies.

[–]askmrcia44 points45 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm confused by this story. What the hell makes her a nice girl? And is the guy you mentioned really her boyfriend?

If she's an 8 like you say she is then she should be doing much better than that. If the guy is fat then he should at least have money or status and not the loser you say he is.

And you flew or traveled just to say hi to a female friend? Huh? I bet she's not as hot as you claim she is and you're just padding yourself on the back for banging an average 30 yr old chick that you met before.

[–]HiThisIsGio7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

I can't picture what kind of subjugated dufus is told by his gf she's traveling alone with a male """"friend""""" and just rolls with it. The blue pill is strong in that one. Either that or he's real-life Forrest Gump.

[–]trtanon-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

She can fuck her friend behind his back in a starbucks bathroom or take off work to meet a hotel too. Are you going to GPS track the bitch?

At some point you really have to just make up your mind that the girl is either worth it and you're not going to care what she does *as long as she takes care of you* or don't commit at all. All this in-between shit isn't healthy.

[–]HiThisIsGio0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I believe some activities that put you in situations of high sexual tension with someone other than your significant other should be off-limits in a serious relationship. If a chick threats her bf of dumping him if he goes on vacation with a female friend no one bats an eye, but guys these days are supposed to trust their women to shower with another dude with absolute trust that they will have no sexual comtact, or else they are qualified as "controlling" or "toxic".

[–]trtanon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea I'd agree with that. But if you try to be controlling you may garner resentment which will make her cheat anyway. Difficult to say. Her friends will convince her you're garbage for it probably. Unless you plan to have kids I just don't see the point.

[–]cBIGONE8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This! This post needs to be further up.

[–]FeelTheBernieSanderz14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a brag post. Nothing indicates a nice girl.

[–]A_regular_lamp11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

In the wise words of 5 Seconds Of Summer: “Good girls are bad girls that haven’t been caught.”

[–]Andgelyo2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

What are you 15? Why you listening to those betafied boy band songs? Listen to rap and hip hop and be a real OG

[–]A_regular_lamp4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ll have you know my penis is at least 3 inches big and all the guys love it. And that’s not even at my final form

[–]YesKiddo 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Can someone explain to me what's with "are you okay?", "is something wrong?" questions?

[–]Omnibrad145 points146 points  (18 children) | Copy

Because usually the next question is "what can I do to make things right?" It's basically asking her to influence your behavior.

You don't make things right according to a girl. You make them right according to yourself. If she doesn't like it, she knows where the door is. If she does like it, she'll spend her time with you. You don't ask her, you watch her actions.

[–]RPinthemaking46 points47 points  (8 children) | Copy

Can confirm. I was fucking this girl, asked her if she was okay and the sex immediately went downhill.

[–]HobbitForest30 points31 points  (7 children) | Copy

No shit, it’s such an annoying question right next to “what are you thinking about.”

[–]RPinthemaking12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know that now. Thanks bud.

[–]sky_fallen8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

They always ask me that one.

[–]HobbitForest8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

That one is infuriating like it’s cool we are in a relationship and emotionally intimate but holy fuck let me process my own thoughts and emotions before reporting to you, sergeant.

[–]StudleyBeastmaster0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Prostitutes have a nasty habit of saying "you've got 5 minutes left" before you've even cum. Doesn't help.

[–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

fuck sake... you shouldn't even know this and know it is a "habit"! Paying for it you already lost.

[–]StudleyBeastmaster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Mate I'm ever so slightly long in the tooth and I've..... been around.

[–]ChrimsonChin9888 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

So on one hand I uderstand what you’re saying because you want to be the one leading, framing etc.

On the other hand, what’s wrong with asking a girl you’re new with if you’re hitting the right spot so you can make her cum harder? Don’t see what’s wrong with wanting to improve your sexual skills and asking for a bit of advice. Obviously you don’t want to overdo it but if you aren’t willing to take any feedback you’re just acting like a retard pretending to be the shit imo.

[–]Omnibrad44 points45 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she volunteers such information during sex (hold my legs behind my head so you hit my spot) then that’s hot.

If you fuck her hard the way you want, and you’re laying in bed after while talking about things she likes, that’s cool.

If you’re in the middle of fucking her and wondering about your performance, it screams insecurity and anxiety.

[–]ManguZa37 points38 points  (0 children) | Copy

You must to be able to take implicit feedback. They hate to have to talk about thing that you should understand by yourself.

[–]SpaceEnthusiast1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

True but also how hard is it to hit 3-4 somewhat different angles and see how her behaviour/expressions change? Go for the best one!

[–]notthatinnocent242 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. You never know if you don’t ask. Every woman is different and it takes time to work out a new partner. If you ask or she tells you it’s going to lead to much better sex for both of you and will improve your game. If you don’t ask she might hate or be uncomfortable with what you are doing or think the sex wasn’t great / be disappointed, you leave thinking you’re the best and go on to disappoint and ignore the feelings of every women you sleep with next.

[–]notthatinnocent240 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What’s wrong with compromise and making sure both partners are happy? Especially considering you’re pretty much guaranteed an orgasm and most women won’t get one, shouldn’t the emphasis be on making both partners happy? Cmon man.

[–]Omnibrad6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Look, if she isn’t happy having sex with you, then she won’t do it again. If she is spreading her legs for you then treat her body like the playground it is and she will love it. Asking her if she’s happy does NOT make her happy anymore than asking you if you’re rich makes you rich.

[–]notthatinnocent24-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

No it it encourages communication which is great for both parties. Why not try and make this moment the best one you can?

Also, sometimes women can feel pressured into sex (not nessercarily by the guy but that can be a factor) and just be checking on her can make her feel sooo much more reassured and in control. It shows you’re respecting her and taking into account how she’s feeling. Having sex with people you’ve only met a few times can be really scary for a women, she could have a lot of barriers up (even during sex). If she feels comfortable and in control then trust me when I say the sex will be 100 times better and she’ll really open up.

[–]Poutvora-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are moments (few) when you can ask those questions. Imo it's about how you put it. Often you can guess the answer before asking, so that may help because it leads to thinking and figuring out it yourself. You can then act without asking the question, which is the best option most of the times.

[–]ApexmanRP13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are placing yourself in her frame. She now holds the power as to whether whatever you are doing is going well.

She is with you, why wouldn't things be OK?

[–]RamRanchCowboy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. If you ask that, maybe things are going well but the insecurity and lack of confidence displayed by needing to ask totally ruins it. You shouldn’t need to ask honestly. Get your stroke game proper.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

she suggested that we do something "kinkier".

Of Human Bondage – Uncle Vasya’s Guide for Men Who Like To Tie Up Young Ladies.

-The Field Guide to playing knotty games with naughty girls.

[–]notthatinnocent2416 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Nice girl” “Hit the Wall soon” “Doesn’t even lift”

Is this a real post or satire about redpill guys? Seriously?

She likes it rough. That’s her particular kink. If she likes it rough (especially to the point of CNC) then she probably likes it that you’re not checking up on her and are treating her roughly and in a degrading manner. That doesn’t mean all girls like that. That doesn’t mean even that most girls like that. That doesn’t mean the red pill is the be all and end all.

One girl you met has a particular kink that comes with some of those “act mean and Work out” traits that the red pill advocates. It does NOT mean you can generalise these rules to others.

Also she knew exactly what she was doing - there’s is no cognitive dissonance.

[–]btrpb155 points156 points  (79 children) | Copy

Stop calling women sluts. They want sex. Men want sex. We all want sex.

We are only calling them sluts when we find out they sleep work people other than us (oh, what a surprise).

Even if you are sleeping with them, it still reeks of jealousy. Oh, you slept with older/blacker/whiter/bigger/richer guy? SLUT!

If you are angry enough to be calling a woman a slut or a bitch, then 99 times out of a 100 you are over invested and jealous.

[–]dudethatneversleeps21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly right. All I hear lately is just people ranting and venting about how much of a slut a certain girl is. We get it. AWALT. Now focus on how you can improve yourself, on how you can be happier and on how you can live your life to the fullest.

[–]Kindredvodka52 points53 points  (52 children) | Copy

I don't know man, it's not really me being angry and it doesn't take much energy but if she fucked 75 guys by the age of 19 or something, she seems like a slut to me.

[–]btrpb17 points18 points  (48 children) | Copy

Well yeah that would be a bit much to ignore 😊.

My point is I hear the word too much around here, and I'm getting a bit tired of it. Self improvement is better than venting anger.

[–]Elatea-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

haha lad most girls have fucked over 10 people by 19, I think that's too much to ignore at such an age. Dont think it reeks of jealousy as its just a simply label to advise and inform others.

[–]notthatinnocent240 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What would you call a guy who does that?

[–]AndyCandyHandySandy16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

Perfect. There is of course complications when people declare exclusivity, at which point it might not even be jealousy. People don't like being played whether it's sex or money, guy or girl.

[–]buzzjive 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Simple solution: don't declare exclusivity.

[–]VertousOffical4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can't stop wolves from protecting their mates, dude.

[–]buzzjive 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Humans are not wolves. There are countless ways humans are different and that makes this comparison inaccurate.

Lions practice infanticide and bonobos bang anything they see (male or female) at the drop of a hat. Does that mean humans should do the same?

I'm really not sold on any argument using evolutionary biology. TRP doesn't have to rely on half baked bro science to be a mind expanding perspective.

[–]VertousOffical1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wolves mate for life, albeit while in a pack manor, they know who and who not to fuck with. Lions don't share exclusivity along with Tigers even though you would think tigers would, hence why I went with wolves. There's just some people who don't want others messing around with what they worked for along time. I think a lot of people forget what being "exclusive" really means whenever they say it. It's never a short term thing, at least to me it isn't.

[–]ozenmacher6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I disagree. Call them what they are. Most of these women want the exclusivity and benefits of LTR or marriage but also want the benefits of the CC. And they cuck and fool man after man with their “good girl” game. Fuck that. A slut is a slut. They don’t deserve good men.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women with high n-counts are lower grade plate/girlfriend prospects. It's fine to label spoilt goods (sluts) as spoilt goods (sluts).

Not judging a woman for her slutty actions is an insidious form of pedestalization. We leave that to the BP's and incels.

[–]FeelTheBernieSanderz8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely right. Woman with a high n-count can never be satisfied.

They are always looking to upgrade, if they've fucked 100 men, the man they settle with can NEVER live up to the amalgamation of men prior. She is destined to be miserable, unless she finds that perfect man (even then she'll wish to upgrade!)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, that last statement is so true.

[–]iwastheproblem[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with you and I don't like using the term either but she sure seemed like one during that weekend. She said that she feels like one and even wanted me to call her that.

[–]chrisname5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love sluts, man. What would I do without them? I hear what you're saying though. It's the fox and the grapes.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

We are only calling them sluts

That is so very not true. We call a woman a slut when we perceive them as crossing a certain boundary when it comes to their sexual behavior. We really do get to judge the behavior of others. All of us do it all the time; telling people not to be judgmental is like telling a fish not to swim. The question is where the boundary is and what you do with it.

For instance, I generally see woman that are prone to spontaneous casual hook-ups as a slut. Their count could be a thousand or it could only five, but if they are now open for business--tis a slut! Here's the thing; I likes me some sluts. They keep my dick warm and wet. I'll call them a slut when they are doing it and most of them even like it (yeah, not all, I get that). I make their days better just like they make mine. I call that a good working relationship.

Wouldn't commit to one.

Your boundaries may be different and that's ok. Talk about them. Make suggestions about them. Tell us how they work. Shit-ace the moralizing and projection before you get banned.

[–]The_Chiselnator4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy

We will do whatever we want, thank you very much.

[–]btrpb13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy

Yes, you are entitled to do as your wish. But think about this. Being angry is a waste of energy. Arguing, never wins you an argument, it just gets other people's backs up. Calling a woman a slut sounds angry. It reeks of resentment. Do you think women are attracted to balls of anger who are jumping at the opportunity to go on the offensive calling them sluts at every moment? Or do you think they are attracted to confident guys who are calm around women and can hold a conversation which isn't permanently tinged with passive aggressiveness because you get angry every time you find out a women has spread her legs for somebody else?

Where do you want to spend your energy? Being angry at your last female encounter or down the gym prepping for the next woman that comes your way?

[–]RamRanchCowboy6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I agree with you, however calling women sluts doesn’t always stem from anger. How many girls like to be called a dirty slut when you’re fucking them? Most. I get your point but I also don’t think it’s a good idea to start policing words as it’s dependent on the individuals.

[–]petallotus5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

really surprised that men get more offended by other men calling women sluts than the actual sluts themselves lmao

[–]_clay_davis-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is no different than right wingers saying that women don’t have a right to speak out to sexual harassment because 50 shades of grey sold so well among women.

[–]The_Chiselnator6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't get it.

We are not here to police other men. That is for losers. I don't give a fuck what you call women, men, your mother. This is not a safe space.

We are here to share our experiences, what we have found works, why we think it works and that's it. The rest is just shit stirring and ain't nobody got time for that.

[–]dark_junion0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You lift to get pussy? You are being a sheep for them like every other simp they manipulate.

[–]btrpb6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fucking right I lift. Shouldn't you be playing Fortnite?

[–]magx011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shhh.....don't beak their spell.

[–]number1shittalker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Glad you got that off your chest. We're all entitled to our opinions. In my opinion, all women are sluts and bitches. That is all.

[–]SgtBrutalisk4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

one thing led to another

Did it also happen on a dark and stormy night?

[–]RedVelocitiy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Power is power. Everyone is a whore with enough "manipulation" or persuasion.

[–]bleuge4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Man, what is that hobbie of yours? It seems a nice one :D

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Nice girls" holly shit, where to begin.

I know this girl from the dorm I'm currently residing in. She is a fucking 8-9 but your typical nice dumb hoes.

We began as friends and she was very respectful and helped me with so many things when it comes to settling in the city and shit. To tell you the truth,I liked her. But since we kept it nice to each other (bearing in mind I was blue-pilled af back then) we didn't go more than a friendship.

Now she's abroad on her Erasmus semester, and today, she fucked it all up with me.

She texted me telling me why her male flatmate (one of many) is mad at her because she had a bro at her room last night to fuck.

Now, I don't give a fuck about her flatmate or her fucking other guys, but telling me about it made me feel like shit because she betized me so much j can't even.

I really think the way to go around girls is to let them fuck things up on their own, do nothing and then they'll come around being the whores they are.

[–]doveenigma136 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. And girls that claim to be feminists will deep throat and swallow. Girls that claim to be freaks just lay down and sweat.

[–]SpecOpsAlpha2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of Western European men have been pussified. Their women get raped and they organize a protest. No wonder the women are unhappy and fantasize about all sorts of shit.

[–]loktaiextatus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every single time I've had an ex or old female friend not just totally ignore me it's been an open invitation dude. Believe me they're thinking exactly what you're thinking when you see a cute girl you think you have an in with. ...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

All nice girls turn into nice sluts for either Chad, Vlad, Thad, Brad, Chaddam, Chadpreet, Chang or Tyrone.

[–]nastyamerican1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She sounds mostly normal. People cheat all the time for all sorts of reasons. I’ve never been exclusive to one woman. And though I’d never tell a woman this I don’t expect any of them them to be either. As far as being a slut, the label in this day and age, is mostly useless. Wrap it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

3 years ago I was dating a nice girl that spent an afternoon catching up with an old high school friend, while im working on my next promotion and dead-lift goals they are planning their wedding and I couldnt be more indifferent :)

[–]1AlfredKinsey3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

All solid shit. Emphasis on shit, but this is the world we've been given and you just gotta make do.

The cognitive dissonance is so real, so shockingly and unbelievably real. It's bizarre almost, right?

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Girls get worse with age.

More effort and less return.

Pick your battles wisely, and ABP (always be plating) no matter what.

The solution to AWALT is ABP.

[–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The solution to AWALT is abundance mentality

[–]TheEnglishman281 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

my favorite line from women like her is

"I normally don't do this . . . ."

[–]SunnysideMorales0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Listen to this song everyone, Redpill anthem right here.

Love Me Like A Man

Remember, rock her like her backbone was your own.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As you said : ''Awalt, 'nuff said''

[–]drkinferno720 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The “Christian” girls were dtf when god, parents and pastor can’t see them.

[–]FratboyOnReddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Alright wtf is with girls (basically all of them i know or experienced with) love to be 1. Forcefully fucked/choked etc Or 2. Like to be fucked by a stranger? Rape? Wtf

[–]Lambdal70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So a woman that has sexual fantasies and likes broad is a total slut? What the heck, be happy if a woman isn't sexually repeessed and actually interested in trying some things out.

All men want threesomes and get their sick sucked by multiple women, so your woman here is much less adventureous than that.

[–]suzy20180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve always thought it funny when friends or acquaintances would tell me how their gf won’t swallow or try anything new. Every girl I’ve ever been with told me they didn’t like swallowing and swore off anal or anything like that.

Well, every girl I’ve had sex with more than a few times has done both. It’s not the girl, it’s the guy. Be a man in bed and lead. Fuck her good and she’ll follow.

[–]NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So she has a healthy appetite for sex? Big deal. Stop slut shaming. It makes you sound like a hurt little boy. Respect her sexual appetite as one equally as capable if not more than yours. Have stronger game. Real men accept a womans hunger as something to be enjoyed and unleashed, but can never truly tame. Do you stop desiring variety? Stop lusting after other women? We are biological beings regardless of societies design to put us into prim & proper roles. Instead, be grateful that a female (afraid of being shamed about her sexual desires) TRUSTED you enough to not only have sex with you, but share her fantasies with you. Nothing about her actions says she deserves to be disrespected and insulted. What does that say about YOU as a person? You'll gain a female's trust just to get your rocks off then run around belittling her behind her back to make yourself feel as if you somehow have more intrinsic value? Not.even.close. Grow up, dude. Start treating women with the respect they deserve. You can start by figuring out what REALLY motivates them and why they choose a mate over another. Do you hate cats because they purr? Hating women because they act like females is equally as ludicrous and pointless. Learn how to "pet" them and i guarantee you'll drop the need to judge them because only then will you understand their actions.

[–]DreamBoatGuy250 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's a very old saying...

"All women are whore's...except Ghandi...who was a man."

[–]juniorsysadmin10 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I mean, this is just total BS. This story is made up no joke. How can betas in this sub don't see through this? Anyone with a hint of alphaness in them should be able to see pass this shit post.

I'm calling this beta fuck op out. Post a pic of you (you can photoshop your face out) with your username and date or else this shit didn't happen. You say u have "Broad shoulders, good body, strength", i'm say you aren' even 5"4 and u weigh below 120lb or over 230lb morbidly obese.

[–]MTNSC12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because they are so desperate for the sight of regular pussy that they gobble up any fantasy that they are just one new squat rep from having Stacy down at the Gamespot store begging for them to fuck her in the anime aisle behind the old PS4 resale bin or Ansley down at Victoria Secrets from arranging a orgy in the store with all the hot clerks.

Wonder why this megaChad had to fly 150 fucking miles for some middle age chick that is getting fucked by a fat, loser with a shit job? But she is an HB9...wink, wink. There aren't any HB9s in Britain that have hobbies and fuck?

Good lord....you are 100% correct, of course.

[–]varlogmessages 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I've got plates that I consider fives at best and it amazes me how quick they pick up boyfriend's. They still occasionally cheat on said boyfriend's with me but I get surprised at just how easy it is for even unattractive women to get dick on demand.

[–]suhurley4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

C’mon, man. It’s boyfriends. No apostrophe. “Boyfriend’s” would mean that something belongs to the boyfriend.

[–]FratboyOnReddit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank god you said something.

[–]willowhawk1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why you plating 5's

[–]Relate_Ship4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

"fives at best" and he is surprised how ugly girls get dick while he gives ugly girls dick. Slow likes low.

[–]number1shittalker-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because they are holes waiting to be fucked, and as men, we need exercise.

[–]WolfgangBreitweit-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

She’s a solid BPD affected bitch. Be happy you came out of this. I haven’t had this luck. What you are writing about is exactly what my BPD accident told me. Looks like they have a textbook or you ran into the same bitch. I’m not joking. Would you mind telling me the first and last letter of her name?

[–]djh860-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The things you described about the woman don’t make her a slut. Not even close. She is a woman with a strong and interesting sexual appetite . She wasn’t the only one there fucking You were there too. Maybe you are a slut. Be happy you got laid and fuck again soon if she lets you. Wrap it.