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MetaVagina Envy (self.TheRedPill)

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We have a lot of posts rightfully scoffing at chicks and their penis envy.

Women are so turned around that they think the path to happiness is by acting like a man.

The Modern Woman: I will become highly educated. I will build a successful career and make lots of money. I will have sex with as many partners as I can

Women who enter their masculine frame and start acting like men end up miserable and lonely. We all know it, and we clearly see it playing out in society.

But there is a much more nefarious and less-frequently discussed phenomenon that I find much more disturbing.

Vagina envy.

Men are cutting off their own balls, their own masculinity, and acting like they wish they had a vagina.

The Modern Man: I can't wait to find a chick to settle down with. I will sit around doing nothing meaningful with myself, praying for Mrs. Right to save me from my boring life. I want to cuddle on the couch with her and whisper sweet nothings. My greatest ambition in life is to find the Right One.

Barf.

When our boys stop acting like chicks, maybe our women will stop acting like dudes.

Final thought:

You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

So chase the crown, never a bitch.


[–]Enigma221206 points207 points  (2 children) | Copy

Final thought:

You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

So chase the crown, never a bitch.

Holy shit this is too real I've never seen it that way before.

[–]d4ng3rz0n335 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also true: the Queen of England’s boyfriend is not the King.

[–]krimpenrik622 points623 points  (22 children) | Copy

fuck, I needed this right now.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (15 children) | Copy

Get your Testosterone levels checked. When I was having this issue it was around 150. When it should be 600-800. I’m on TRT now and don’t have these types of thoughts anymore.

The average T levels in men has been decreasing over the decades. It’s likely it will become the normal to be just a few times that of a woman’s instead of being 20 times.

[–]knwmtc 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

Can this be done in just a regular checkup? I'm starting to wonder if it's part of my problem

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy

    Yes. And you can do it yourself. There should be a Lab near you that is cash pay only. If you’re in the US it’s likely to cost $20 to get your T checked. There’s multiple types such as Total T and Free T. You can just order both.

    I would personally do it without your doctor first so you know. Once you do it at the doctors make sure to do it in the AM or else insurance won’t accept it or they’ll try to say it’s an acceptable range because it’s later in the day. I had that happen.

    [–]LarrySellerz14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

    Dude how old are you? Going on trt will ruin your bodies ability to produce test!!!!

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

    1. And my T levels were 150 when I was 25. Which is why I started.

    [–]LarrySellerz2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

    Why not try drastic lifestyle changes?

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

    Because I know what is causing it. Edit:

    I’ll rephrase as what I said isn’t useful.

    I did lifestyle changes. I have Crohns and Severe Anemia. My entire adult life has been one big “let me change my lifestyle to see if it can keep me out of the hospital.” At some point I gave up and realized the TRT was so much more effective and manageable.

    [–]Sylvester_Sterone4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

    I'm with you. Stated TRT two years ago at 29 when after a couple years of low-t symptoms. Wish I did it earlier.

    Some people have asked, "Don't you know that it will ruin your natural test levels?"

    I respond ," Why would you wan't to come off?"

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

    It can’t ruin what’s not there to begin with.

    [–]RobertTene1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

    Hey I was diagnosed with Major Thalassemia which also makes me have severe anemia.

    Wanted to ask you if you think the anemia affected your T levels?

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

    From the research papers I found it seems the causation is reversed. Low T causes anemia.

    [–]MakeMenGreatAgain440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

    I feel for you. Good that you 're on the treatment

    [–]Royalway7-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

    Should I test for it as a teen? I'm 16 and sometimes I find myself having these thoughts too. Maybe it is a common thing for the unexperienced? I still try and ignore them though

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

    You’re a male teen. It’ll get better in a few years and substantially better around 25. No doctor will test your T levels at 16 unless your sex organs were underdeveloped and you still looked androgynous. Meaning male characteristics did not form.

    [–]Halt4 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

    Fucking hell me two brother!

      [–]xiannnnnn 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

      did you say two because you’re the second? or did you mean to say me too?

        [–]daffy_duck233265 points266 points  (21 children) | Copy

        In other words, if the men are strong enough, there's no need for women to act strong.

        [–]ReformSociety168 points169 points  (17 children) | Copy

        “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

        [–]notthatinnocent2433 points34 points  (15 children) | Copy

        Hard Times create strong AF women too

        [–]Fiesta1761 points62 points  (9 children) | Copy

        Don't listen to the down votes on this one bro. Hard times create strong people, men, women, and everyone in between, the weak ones die off. A real man is best complimented by a strong woman who can handle the shit life throws at her, not a harem of girls with the maturity of children. There's a reason the King still has a Queen even though he has his harem for pleasure.

        [–]1v1MeLittleBitch2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

        Harem for pleasure? Can you elaborate on that?

        [–]Fiesta175 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

        I just meant like, what does any man have a harem for? My understanding is to use in order to fulfill his sexual fantasies so a kings harem is for his pleasure but the queen still fills an important role in the life of a king.

        [–]1v1MeLittleBitch2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

        So the queen doesn't fill the sexual fantasies? I just think if u had 1 girl it'd be a lot less messy but as long she's cool with it do ur thing. She would be cool with it right? You would never want to keep a secret like that from a loved one

        [–]Fiesta171 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

        I mean sure, every situation is different but a king is a king and does what a king wants. There are things multiple women can do that one woman cannot and things that differ with emotional attachments. Not every king desires a harem and not every king desires a queen. Whatever situation, we are the kings of our lives, we live by the rules we choose to live by but all of our decisions have consequences so we also choose the rules we allow others to set for us as well. Honesty with a chosen loved one is an honorable decision.

        [–]1v1MeLittleBitch0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

        It's a mutual decision... You don't do whatever you want after you make a vow

        [–]RaughKee1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

        You shouldn't be getting to the point of making vows without being perfectly clear what you need from a partner and what other needs you have. If you want a side piece or side pieces your main LTR should know that and be ok with it.

        [–]Fiesta170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

        I mean, yeah dude. That's the way it goes. I think you're reading too far into what I'm saying. I'm just talking about the fundamental philosophy of how hard times create strong women along with strong men. I fail to see how this is related to the original point.

        [–]ATPsynthase1214 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

        Weak men create strong women. When the men of your society are too busy eating soy, watching porn and cutting their dicks off they can’t be strong by nature so the women have to step up to a role they weren’t meant for.

        Example: today’s society

        [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

        Weak men create strong women

        No they don't. They just create demanding women. Right now they get away with it because they are feeding off of waning imperial wealth. One day that spigot will go dry.

        [–]ATPsynthase121 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

        I never said a strong woman was a good woman. More often than not they are terrible people

        [–]daffy_duck233-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

        and most likely unhappy AF too

        [–]Hakunamatata_4204 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

        Spot on

        [–]Goodava3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

        So there are no women that are actually strong just acting strong, right?

        [–]SidgeBlueCollars57 points58 points  (1 child) | Copy

        I like the short and sweet ones. Quality not quantity. Well written, mate.

        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

        Like a good chinese proverb -- just enough to part wisdom, not enough to fall asleep.

        [–]Butt_Man_69114 points115 points  (8 children) | Copy

        There was a comedian that said that a king can lift up a woman to become a queen, but a queen can never lift up a man to become king. (Look at Queen Elizabeth’s husband.)

        [–]TheMoreYouKnowRight72 points73 points  (1 child) | Copy

        It was said by Patrice O'neal.

        [–]3chazthundergut[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

        Patrice O'Neil. Legend.

        [–]juliusstreicher1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

        Yes, but, he's a billionaire, fucked a hot queen back in the day, his kids are all royalty...he did alright.

        Plus...isn't he, mol, allowed mistresses?

        [–]Butt_Man_692 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

        I agree, but he’s still not a king.

        [–]juliusstreicher7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

        OK, you go be a king-I'll be a billionaire, fuck a hot queen, and have kids who are all royalty.

        [–]Butt_Man_692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

        I’m just proving the principle.

        [–]thesquarerootof122 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

        You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

        This is actually a damn good quote

        [–]ganner 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

        Many will read this and call it misogynistic. I'm going to call it antihuman. This POV denies every man and woman an essential aspect of their humanity. To desire to be loved and accepted. To desire physical and emotional intimacy with someone you love and respect and who loves and respects you. To desire success in the form of contributing meaningfully to the world and producing more than is needed to take care of one's self. These are neither masculine nor feminine, they are simply human. And your narrow view of gender relations denies all of us an essential aspect of our humanity - or else shames us for seeking it.

          [–]blaine_freelance 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

          Well, I think you can get all that, the feelings of love, the snuggling, etc. I don't think this post is really saying you can't have that.

          I think the point is, you waste time pining and yearning for it, when you should probably be concerned with other things.

          At least, that's how I interpreted it.

            [–]Dominimus 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

            I think they were talking more about the gender bending people in this case. Search people also have a right to pursue their own happiness as they understand it

              [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Ug. I need a tampon after reading this.

              To desire to be loved and accepted.

              Validation seeking behavior is the universal road to ruin for all men. You don't have to adore or despise women for that to be truth.

              [–]SasquatchMcKraken 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

              Both you and the OP are right. Yes, it's pointless to be a nihilistic and hedonistic hookup artist. You may not think so when you're 18 or 22, but human bonding is vital. And this is missed by many (probably most) dudes on TRP. But at least the final paragraph of the OP's holds: if you want birds, build a bird house first. That bond you want isn't just going to fall into your lap.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

                This POV denies every man and woman an essential aspect of their humanity. To desire to be loved and accepted. To desire physical and emotional intimacy with someone you love and respect and who loves and respects you.

                This is not at odds with OP's sentiments. In fact this is a byproduct of OP's recommendation. One must not get caught up desiring niceties without being aware that there is time, effort and work that needs to be put in to achieve it. Expecting it without earning it is simply entitlement.

                To desire success in the form of contributing meaningfully to the world and producing more than is needed to take care of one's self

                This may be your mission statement, does not mean it has to apply to all. Each man has the liberty to decide for himself where he derives meaning.

                And your narrow view of gender relations denies all of us an essential aspect of our humanity

                Beware of denying your biological desires in pursuit of humanity.

                [–]moltenw[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

                Glad to see you get the endorsed tag. Deserved.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                Thanks bro, appreciated.

                [–]BewareTheOldMan56 points57 points  (1 child) | Copy

                "You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King."

                I concur and approve this message.

                [–]specklemouse5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

                Crisp and clean.

                [–]JimmyOTEL 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

                You got a seriously jaded and simplistic view of the world man, its not really healthy. All this 'men used to be men' shit is holding you back. Be whatever the fuck you want to be and let other people do the same

                  [–]RoyRoyMcBoii6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

                  Unless people are so feeble they can't think for themselves, this post does not stop anyone doing anything. It is merely a person speaking their mind.

                  [–]JimmyOTEL 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

                  Well no post actually stops anyone from doing anything, but it is specifically saying that women are wrong for wanting a bit of self determination and that men are wrong for wanting to raise a family,

                    [–]RoyRoyMcBoii 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

                    I did not read it as "they're wrong", I read it as "if they go down this path and have this as your mindset they will not flourish and will not have a good time".

                      [–]JimmyOTEL 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

                      Is that not essentially the same thing?

                        [–]RoyRoyMcBoii 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

                        Not the same thing, your interpretation is much more reductive and misses the nuance of the post. Tell me when you're ready to stop going back and forth.

                          [–]JimmyOTEL 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

                          I could have said that the post suggests its a bad idea or that its now how things 'should', its not the best path to take but it still boils down to the same thing, a particular idea of the way things 'should' be, so what nuance? The post is very clear about how OP thinks the world should be

                            [–]dbz0x23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy

                            Mainstream induced/regulated habits such as entertainment, porn, literature are only brainwashing men more and more. Sad to see the slow decline of what it means to be a man, unapologetically. I can’t go a day without some soy boy telling me women deserve respect if I say something men would say traditionally in a man to man conversation. All this while his girl is probably getting railed by her coworker. Currently we’re seeing an attempt to blend the lines between masculinity and femininity. Shits fucked, stay woke my brothers.

                            [–]TheReformist942 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

                            Problem is good looking soyboys are getting laid whilst drinking soy turmeric latte. If you aren't good looking enough and admit you support trump, you'll get nexted for a guy who is good looking and supports Hillary. Well that's the case in the UK. I agree with your sentiment.

                            [–]Herkentyu_cico1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

                            Wait, in confused. So which side is at fault now?

                            [–]redbossman1232 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

                            If you’re good looking, you’ll get pussy anyways, but openly liberal men are more likely to get pussy than openly conservative men because women trend liberal and a lot of women hate Trump. At least that’s what I got from his statement.

                            [–]Herkentyu_cico0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                            actually i can stand for that.

                            The other day i was talking with a girl and the stupid I am brought up immigration. Instant scorn.

                            Lol get denied

                            [–]TheReformist940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                            thank you. women have the options to tell right wingers to fuck off.

                            [–]omjagvarensked 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

                            While I can appreciate your point. I think there is something to be said for a man's gentler side. I think the most important issue is not knowing when to be a 'man' and when to act like a 'woman'. Kindness and gentleness come at far too great a cost to us men and I personally think the stronger man is the one who can achieve a balance and know when the time to be gentle is and when the time to be hard is.

                              [–]styxus9016 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

                              As i understood it, OP never said not to be kind... its more a statement against passively sitting around, having a boring life, and waiting for an external source to resolve that. That being said, I think you are right when you say balance is key. One can be a gentle and kind soul, but still get a realistic world view. Thats TRP goals right there.

                              [–]3chazthundergut[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              Yes. And what does kind mean anyways?

                              Deep down in their soul, most women want to be dominated and used by high-value men. Dicking her down until she is making animal noises into her pillow is just about the nicest thing you can do for a chick.

                              You do yourself and your woman both a disservice when you enter your feminine frame and give up your masculine edge. When you blow up her phone and suffocate her with neediness and affection. When you validate her and seek her validation. When you realign your life to orbit a bitch, instead of chasing your dream and allowing her to orbit you as nature intended.

                              Let the women worry about kind.

                              You focus on being a man.

                              [–]Col-D7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

                              No, acting like a man is the ultimate kindness. Problem Is young men no longer have the age old male outlet for the desire for the challenge to over come. A rite of passage to adult manhood

                              [–]trancedj4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              Exactly. The military was that passage for me. Unfortunately we’re losing that environment as well (mostly).

                              [–]hbss4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              You got lost in the sauce.

                              Women start careers and shit because of money and power. They have advantages in their way and their parents are more keen to support em. End of the story.

                              It’s not about willing to be a men. It’s not because of hypergamy.

                              You could be a clerk at the store or an engineer at some startup.

                              The first one gives you 6 day weeks and 900$ a month, the other 4,5 days weeks and 3k a month. What would you do?

                              [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy

                              damn, this shit got brigaded hard

                              [–]erthian15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

                              Where the fuck are they coming from? Its like backwards land in here.

                              [–]Modredpillschool[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              Working on it!

                              [–]BatemaninAccounting1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              Some incel communities recently got banned so that's with the influx of these types of depressed men that think they're victims.

                              [–]modTheRedPike[M] 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

                              PM i f you have any idea from where.

                              [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              been trying to figure out.. my guess is just your typical reddit commies from r all

                              [–]UncleChido2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              Great post. Simple, short and concise.

                              [–]Seven_Veils2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              I like that, chase the crown..

                              [–]3LiveAFTSOV21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              Being succinct at it's finest.

                              Also such a true post! So true.

                              Be a fucking king and live all for the sake of victory. Everything to win baby.

                              [–]LodestarAuriga5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

                              "Chase the crown, never a bitch"

                              I will write this in a post-it, and stick on my bathroom's mirror

                              [–]idunnomanwtvisgood 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

                              This sub has some high quality neckbeard shit

                                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

                                that’s the complete opposite of TRP. If you can’t see that, YOU are probably the neckbeard. Or maybe you aren’t humble enough to accept that you’ve been wrong all your life.

                                When you’re ready to swallow the pill, you know where to find us.

                                We’ll welcome you with open arms. It’s a harsh world with TRP, even colder without it.

                                [–]erthian 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

                                Yeah wtf, it seems this sub is overrun with sjw. I can't believe the "be what ever you want" bullshit that's getting up voted now.

                                  [–]modTheRedPike6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                  My morning lately. Coffee, locking threads and banning half of reddit...

                                  [–]UpperRedSide 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

                                  What's funny is that this exactly why my first crush couldn't stand me.

                                  We were both independent, career-driven, entrepreneurial individuals. But what I failed to realize is that a woman trying to be the man is hardly compatible with another man.

                                  She never straight up blew me off. She was always polite. But our interactions were the most sexless, platonic things I have ever experienced.

                                    [–]3chazthundergut[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    You didn't make her pussy tingle dude that's it. The rest is male hamstering.

                                    [–]Persaeus4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    LOL, i'm sure she rode chad like a bull

                                    [–]MiracleMagnet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    CHASE THE CROWN, NEVER THE QUEEN #HIDDENGEM THANK YOU!

                                    [–]Nikolai_The_Undying4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

                                    I mean I guess, sorry I like mushy lovey dovey bullshit. But I'm quite satisfied with my current relationship.

                                    [–]ATPsynthase128 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

                                    I think the point is that if your relationship/woman is the center of your existence then you’re doing it wrong.

                                    [–]Nikolai_The_Undying-5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy

                                    What if I'm also the center of hers?

                                    [–]ATPsynthase124 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

                                    That’s her choice but another person should not be your life’s focus. TRP aside that kind of behavior isn’t healthy anyways.

                                    [–]Nikolai_The_Undying-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                    I guess, but obsession + obsession has been great so far!

                                    [–]frooschnate17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    We’ll see you in a couple months

                                    [–]upupvote23 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

                                    Love that last line, that's a keeper.

                                    [–]LORDFLVCKOJODYE7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                    chase a cheque, never chase a bitch

                                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    Yeah, this is why TRP exists. It's why we tell men to lift. It's why we're all here -- all of us. Its up to us gentlemen, would you rather sit down and die miserable from your vagina envy, or get up, lift heavy, get your testosterone flowing and take your life back?

                                    [–]HIJKelemenoP9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    I remember my first day reading the sidebar.

                                    [–]ATPsynthase128 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                    I think it comes without saying OP but for those who are slow on the draw, hyper masculine women are a product of hyper feminine/weak men. Society needs the alpha to function. By men becoming weak/feminized we thrusted our women into a role they weren’t made for and aren’t prepared for.

                                    Not to be nostalgic but there is truth to the saying:

                                    Strong men beget Good Times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, Hard times create Strong Men

                                    Do you think Alexander the Great got his epitaph by sitting around reading his copy of the Iliad and wishing he was Achilles? No, he picked up his shield and spear, got on his horse and fucking became him.

                                    The real question is do you want to be Alexander the Great or some no name working a 9-5 job you hate existing in mediocracy waiting for something extraordinary to happen to you?

                                    [–]3chazthundergut[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    I wish the modern man would even daydream about becoming Alexander the Great. Nevermind actually picking up a fucking spear.

                                    Instead they daydream about a bitch. And about how great their shitty life would be if they had a woman to share it with.

                                    Get to work fellas. There are stars to be conquered and empires to be built.

                                    [–]Count_Giggles9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King.

                                    Patrice O'Neal on the topic skip to 9:20 to spare yourself the irrational ramblings of the women present

                                    [–]NotSure_If6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    Losers always whine about doing their best. Kings go home and fuck queens.

                                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    every man needs the red pill. The world would be a better place

                                    [–]Bucky_Goldstein3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                    I feel like a lot of men want the attention that women get these days, and they are willing to sacrifice their dignity entirely to get some slice of that attention

                                    [–]DifficultFruit7381 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

                                    This is toxic bullshit lol

                                      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                      Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create feminist women

                                      [–]Fulp_Piction2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

                                      This post is suspiciously highly upvoted for such a basic trp message. It's not new or creative, and apparently there's been bloops brigading the comments which makes it even more suspicious. What gives?

                                      [–]3chazthundergut[S] 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                      I have an army of Russian trolls that upvote all my shit

                                      [–]Fulp_Piction2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                      Great, the dollar to rupee exchange rate must be excellent atm

                                      [–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                      I already answered this question in this thread.

                                      Shitace the concern trolls.

                                      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                      There is a serious shortage of traditional men in Western society.

                                      Be trad. and the women will come. It's not rocket science what women find attractive and they can never change it no matter how feminist theory they read and talk about.

                                      My aunt has been a very outspoken feminist her whole life. Recently I showed her a clip of some Romanian men in their small village in Romania. The government had tried to trick the village into accepting migrants by building a migrant centre but lying about what it was really for. The locals found out the centre's true purpose when the centre started hiring people. These men were on the news saying "we will never accept this. If you push this upon us we will react with violence and force. This is not a reflection of Romanian politics but just us protecting our homes. We don't want to do this but we will and you have been warned. We will not allow our communities to become like the ones in France where the men fear for their women and children walking the streets. We will not let you harm OUR women." Now obviously this is very "problematic", but my aunt surprised me by saying how fucking sexy that male attitude really was. She's spent her whole life as a feminist and is now a forever alone 60 year old. She's calmed down a lot and finally accepted what she has been fighting her whole life. Women like men like that.

                                      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                      Its no surprise this happens. When a society starts attacking the old fashioned male figure young boys will lose the role model and substitute it with the strong woman who is glorified. I believe nature abhors a vacuum and that explains whats going on.

                                      [–]Col-D1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                      And we replace those roll models with confused guys who make a pile of cash, but are clueless

                                      [–]-saltymangos-3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                      short, sweet, and to the point. opened my eyes. great post

                                      [–]whatplanetrufrom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                      My future son in law is just like that. A liberal, pro-feminist, no-balls, skinny jeans wearing girly man. He sits on the floor at my stepdaughter's feet like a little dog. She puts him down and he just laughs. I wonder if he will grow a set one day and become a real man, but I think those balls are long gone. Stepdaughter decided they wouldn't be having kids (he has no say in the matter), so it's not like he needs them anyway, right?

                                      [–]wmat213 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy

                                      That's what I always preach: It is mens fault. The fact women are like that nowadays, the fact that they have totally lost control and don't know shit, make themselves miserable etc. ... it isn't surprising. They're grown children. Who would blame a 7 year old for not being able to run the house?

                                      The problem is not women, the problem is first and foremost weak men. Women stopped believing in men because men stopped believing in themselves. They'd rather believe the whole "muh equality" myth, and it all started with the womans right to vote. Now they influence more and more of society, get more and more unhappy, parallel to their power. And whose fault is it? You're right, feminists: It is mens fault. We gave them the right to vote. We were kind but foolish, like the father giving 50 bucks to his 6 year old son just to find out he bought tons of sweets with that money instead of books for school.

                                        [–]Cgbgjr1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                        Perhaps a better analogy (seen here before) is giving a teenager a new car full of booze in the back seat and waiting to see what happens next. I knew a kid who drove drunk and wrecked four cars in his teen years--his dumb parents kept buying him another car!

                                        [–]Dominimus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

                                        That’s not how democracy works m8

                                        [–]ApolloRubySky 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

                                        As a woman, the more autonomy I have, the happier I am. I wonder where you got your statistics that the more success/power women amass, the less happy they become. Please share sources.

                                          [–]3chazthundergut[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

                                          Deep down, most women want a high value man who they can trust to take the lead. A man who will take her by the hand and bring her into his cooler, better reality. A man she can submit to and bear children for. A man she can worship.

                                          But few women will ever admit to it.

                                          [–]ApolloRubySky 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

                                          From what reliable source did you get this information? It would be interesting to read. I know our worlds are very different because where I come from women want to achieve their own success and happiness and it doesn’t all have to derive from a man. We want men who are kind, capable, funny, and not someone who sees her as a child he must care for. No we don’t want to submit to a man and some of us don’t even want to birth babies. Nobody is worthy of worship, all we want is an equal who will treat us as such. Only dumb women who have been beaten down to have low self esteem would display what you described. Sorry if this upsets you but we are not children or sheep.

                                            [–]3chazthundergut[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

                                            It doesn't upset me at all. I just feel bad that you've never had the experience of submitting to a masculine man. It scratches an itch that goes back millennia, way before feminism and social justice.

                                            My sources are the women I've spoken to and observed. Especially those age 35+ who focused on financial/ career success over finding a high-value man and starting a family with him.

                                            But you do you. If you are happy, keep doing what you're doing. This post wasn't for chicks anyways.

                                            [–]ApolloRubySky 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

                                            I know it’s not for chicks, but if this sub has strong opinions about us, they should take into account our perspectives. Your source is anecdotal from other women, and I hope that you’ll add mine to your catalogue. Women are not a homogenous group, there is variation among us and I hope you take that into account too. I can’t argue all men want the same thing, and when a men offers a perspective that doesn’t confirm my bias, just ignore it. I think you are generalizing too much, for instance I am very happily married to someone that treats me like an equal and it works for the two of us, we’ve been together almost 11 years. Maybe you’ll find a girl who like being submissive, but for other women that lifestyle can lead to depression.

                                              [–]bouldurer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                              Damn, "chase the crown, never a bitch"

                                              [–]KeithKATW2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                              I had the crown. Bitches still retarded... Just cuz a motherfucker wants to lay up with a bitch doesn't mean hes a bitch... All niggas want to lay up with a bitch... Bitches are just retarded, which is why they're getting knocked up by retards, becoming single mothers, depending on "child support", 6 jobs, and "Grandma" to take care of the children... Bitches are easily fooled. I know this cuz I used to fool the fuck out of them. Had'em tryna suck on my nuts, but, something inside said "this is wrong", knowing how easy they were to manipulate, so I blew my own cover, on purpose... Now here we are, a couple years down, and bitches just got fucked over by much lesser men, in many cases... Relationships are about a lot more than "fucking"... I was looking for a bitch who WASN'T retarded... someone I could trust... The more I looked, the more I realized that all of these bitches are retarded (or at least a good majority of them)... Modern society is retarded, for that matter... I'm "red-pilled" the fuck out... Still love me some bitches though :)

                                              Ps: go watch an Amazon documentary to see more "natural" roles for men and women... The women dont think they're "princesses", nor do the men "act like kings"... They just get along, and function, without being retarded... Something missing in modern life...

                                              [–]Technophobiakills 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

                                              Wait. Your whole point is that men with “vagina envy” sit around an wait for the “Right One” yet you say Kings wait for the right Queen to find them.

                                              You do know that’s the same fucking thing, right?

                                                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                Ugh no, he said you'll get a queen simply by being a king, he didn't mention waiting at all

                                                [–]Fantawaters3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                I think it’s more like this: people with vagina envy look for a queen, but men look to be the king and then they get the queen anyway, but at that point (if not before) any one should realise that the crown is 10 times more worthy a prize

                                                [–]PM_ME_LEWD_SHIT-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

                                                Good post. Mods sticky please.

                                                [–]modTheRedPike[M] 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                I was actually going to remove it, then I saw all the triggered bloops and decided to leave it up.

                                                [–]upupvote2-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                I second this, this is an important reminder to fight modern conditioning.

                                                [–]matorin570 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                Wtf are you talking about? You are describing a CBS sitcom not real life. Are you talking about Kevin James in the King Of Queens?

                                                [–]HeadingRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                An old friend of mine now passed - true alpha guy. Born poor, died fairly wealthy. Women, good times, etc. On more than one occasion would say "When I die I want to come back as a broad. I want they golden pussy. I want to get all of this stuff I had to work for just by being willing to fuck. I don't think I would even have to be that good at it."

                                                [–]BackandStronger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                As famously stated in the previous posts, I've come to TRP today to learn something about women. Learned about men instead.

                                                [–]MisterRoid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                I can relate to that. I used to think that my life would get better, so long as I had a girlfriend that loved me. Thankfully I came to the insight that happiness has to come from within.

                                                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                Great, great post, right to the point....late to the party here.....women are, indeed, a lagging indicator.

                                                I was at the coffee shop a couple hours ago, and the water was out. I had been flirting with the hired help, joking about how I might lose my man card if I drink the coconut flavored coffee (as if my preferred french vanilla is any more manly)....so, she hadn't filled the water that I pointed out was empty an hour previously. I said, "The water is still empty" and she said she's been busy, but the pitcher was right there. I just looked at her quizzically. Some dude was like, here's some water, grabbed the pitcher, filled my cup, and proceeded to fill the water container, bragging about it the whole time.

                                                I could have done the same. Fuck that. I want to keep the flirtation in the right place, and that place certainly is not from supplication.

                                                [–]Excuses3650 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                Live for the woman, become the woman.

                                                [–]Herkentyu_cico0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

                                                Okay I'm a bit confused here. (obviously) I'm a newcomer. So this sub is completely against marriage and doesn't advocate settling down???

                                                [–]3chazthundergut[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                I can't speak for the sub.

                                                I am against marriage as a rule. There is no upside for men and tons of downside.

                                                As for settling down? No. I don't advocate settling down.

                                                I advocate climbing up.

                                                [–]gbdoragnic0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

                                                This doesn't mean anything, if you put effort into dating you will get in what you put in it, a byproduct isn't true, nothing is a by product, so why is sex with a women the magical thing? If you focus just on your job you become beta bucks?

                                                [–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

                                                I got a lot more pussy by grinding on my passion and becoming successful than I ever did from dating.

                                                [–]gbdoragnic1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                                I got 0 grinding on my passion, and I was quite successful , I got pussy with minimal effort by using PUA

                                                [–]Uly-sses0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                The funny thing about penis envy is that is what fuels these replacing men reboots. They wish to replace men in every successful role on television, politics and anything else that they can think of. The comedy in it is that it is perpetual failure.

                                                I have seen some blue pilled men go for the idea of wanting to be women (not being hated for being a man) and pretend to be more feminine. I think it is a mental disorder from suffering from childhood, and could be fixed through therapy or such. Not so much if they go all out and remove the very essence of being a man, as they will be irreparably damaged physically and mentally at that point.

                                                Either way, let them have their collapse, as women claim their superiority, as then they will need men like us to fix what they have broken. That is much how I see it.

                                                [–]Vasallo7G0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

                                                This is way too good.....but what are the options for a women when guys can not even support themselves

                                                [–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                There aren't that many options for women. Chicks are starving for masculine, high-value men.

                                                It really is a seller's market out here.

                                                [–]ThatCurlBro1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                With every year, we lose dimorphism.

                                                [–]omega_dawg93-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                hey wait a minute! "if the queen ain't happy, nobody's gonna be happy. but guess what, the queen is still the king's bitch."

                                                i think Patrice O'Neal did that joke.

                                                that modern man quote is very real. i work with a lot of young guys who literally say that shit... almost verbatim.

                                                they actually have discussions about their wonderful wedding day and how they can't wait to find their "perfect girl."

                                                i tried to educate them... even provided links to Rollo's books. they ignored it all; i said fuck it.

                                                [–]uber_kerbonaut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                It's probably more of a phase that people have sometimes than an epidemic. Pretty normal to want a wide variety of of things in life isn't it? Especially those you've never tried.

                                                That's said, I do consider a chronic lack of ambition to be a problem.

                                                [–]yammyha-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                strong words, great mindset. So true when I see my female friends who break up with their bf's and enter the masculine frame of choosing which boys to hang out with and focusing on their career

                                                [–]v74u-3 points-2 points  (6 children) | Copy

                                                I swear this is about the millionth time on this sub I’ve heard to never worry about one woman. I feel like most the guys on this sub didn’t get girls and felt rejected so now they just try to get as many girls as possible, chasing the feeling they never felt when they were younger. Treating their past feelings of rejection and loneliness with as many girls as possible. Not realizing they just traded in one mental issue for another. Seeking happiness through women will always leave you miserable, the key is to realize that. It doesn’t matter if you just want to be with one girl or a hundred.

                                                [–]wmat213 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

                                                People downvoting you but not refuting your thesis shows that you're right. I absolutely agree. Chasing women is always stupid. A woman cannot change your self-worth, only you can. Around here it's just like with people on the NoFap sub, they stop pornography and masturbation, but they immediately go to seek sex with any person they can lay their hands on, even if the chick's barely a 3. They'll go from porn and masturbation addicts to sex addicts. Like you so perfectly said, trading one addiction for the other. It's sad to witness.

                                                  [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine[🍰] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

                                                  [–]wmat213 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

                                                  No, I think you are missing out on evolution.

                                                  There is no need to have sex all the time. There are many men following semen retention (next to NoFap which should be compulsory for everyone on the Red Pill) and they are perfectly fine. If biology worked like that, celibate monks would implode and die.

                                                  What I see here, and I say this in the nicest way possible, is many very horny men, who may have stopped masturbation but are still addicted to the vagina. They think they have swallowed the red pill, but they still chase the holy vagina, as if it'd cure them. Hint: It doesn't. Been there, done that. That being said, I am a big believer in freedom so I can't and I won't stand in your way. I just don't think it's beneficial.

                                                    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                    The fact that you can do something in an obtuse way doesn't automatically imply it is an efficient way to operate.

                                                    You can remain celibate because you're religious or in an attempt to somehow prove that you are "above biology" or some other stupid reason. But don't preach about how you are a higher tier of man because you've "evolved" past physical desire.

                                                    Do whatever the fuck you want, dude. I like sex, and most guys like sex, so I'm going to keep teaching them how to get it. What are you even doing here?

                                                    Quote

                                                    Yeah, I think we're done. /u/CrazyHorseInvincible /u/TheRedPike

                                                    [–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                    should be compulsory for everyone on the Red Pill

                                                    Bye.

                                                    [–]Extremely_Photogenic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                    Always treat your woman like she's a queen. That is, the king's bitch... Be the king

                                                    [–]NikolaGeorgiev0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

                                                    The William Lynch speech is an address purportedly delivered by a certain William Lynch to a audience on the bank of the James River in Virginia in 1712 regarding control of slaves within the colony.

                                                    "[...]
                                                    The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don’t forget you must pitch the old Black vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skin slave vs. the light skin slaves and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female.
                                                    [...]
                                                    Therefore, if you break the female mother, she will break the offspring in its early years of development; and when the offspring is old enough to work, she will deliver it up to you, for her normal female protective tendencies will have been lost in the original breaking process.
                                                    [...]
                                                    Therefore, we shall go deeper into this area of the subject matter concerning what we have produced here in this breaking process of the female n**ger. We have reversed the relationship; in her natural uncivilized state, she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized n**ger male, and she would have a limited protective tendency toward her independent male offspring and would raise male offsprings to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling a civilized n**ger apart and bullwhipping the other to the point of death, all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with the male image destroyed, the ordeal caused her to move from her psychologically dependent state to a frozen, independent state. In this frozen, psychological state of independence, SHE WILL RAISE HER MALE AND FEMALE OFFSPRING IN REVERSED ROLES.

                                                    For fear of the young male's life, she will psychologically train him to be mentally weak and dependent, but physically strong. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her female offsprings to be psychologically independent. What have you got? You've got the n**ger woman out front and the n**ger man behind and scared. This is a perfect situation of sound sleep and economics.
                                                    [...]"

                                                    [–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                                    Disgusting. I'm so glad we fought a civil war to end slavery.

                                                    [–]NikolaGeorgiev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                                                    Does it ring a bell about today's society?

                                                    [–]profpoo-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

                                                    Just because a king marries a woman, it doesn’t make her a queen. I think that may be a glaring oversight, the basis of which I think is children’s fairytales.

                                                    [–]meat-slinger7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                                    I don't think you get the point: a woman can never elevate a man. do a quick google search of queen Victoria and queen Elizabeth and note the title of their respective spouses (prince consort). for the Kings, however, their spouses have the 'Queen' title.

                                                    [–]profpoo-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                    I don’t think that’s the case at all.

                                                    [–]CrazyZooarchLady 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

                                                    I have an honest question and observation, although I am sure a few will be rude, I hope a few will also answer me. I'm a 39 yr old woman. Been married 19 years and have 3 sons. My boys are 16, 17, and almost 18. The oldest was placed with us about 2 years ago by DCS out of a terrible home full of drugs and abuse.

                                                    Anyway as I stated above, I have been married and 100% faithful (since some people think that doesnt happen anymore) to my husband for 19 years. He is a generator mechanic and I am an archaeologist work toward my Ph.D.

                                                    I dont agree with everything in this post, but the part about men and women having am identity crisis and swap is spot on!

                                                    I have always been a tomboy and bit more masculine than other women. My grandparents raised me and papaw was in the army for 24 years so he was a major influence on me growing up and I have 5 brothers that made it impossible to be too girly. I have never had much tolerance for a man who is less of a man than I am.

                                                    But, women now days seem to have no problem with the males around them being super feminine and it is disturbing. I see these couples that look like they share a closet. And these guys follow them around like lost dogs.

                                                    In 19 years my husband has never raised a hand to me (nor would he have the chance to do it twice if he ever did). We haven't even really had a serious arguement in over a decade. He acts like a man should, he is strong and decisive, he provides for his family, works fulltime plus, and always shows respect to others.

                                                    What I am seeing lately is that the males who aren't on the more feminine side of the spectrum are swinging toward a false masculinity. I read and hear guys talking about being an alpha and the majority of their examples of how they were an alpha are really just examples of being an asshole. So on one side there are guys in skinny jeans and on the other are guys who think they have to be an abusive asshat. Neither of these are what women want or need. I hate the term "toxic masculinity" almost as much as I hate the term "feminazi" but in some ways that's what it really is on both sides. And this whole incel subculture is terrifying.

                                                    My sons are thankfully like their father and after a couple years of living with us, the oldest boy has figured out that being a man doesn't mean being an asshole.

                                                    So my question is, how do we as a society stop this extreme shift in gender identity?

                                                    There will always be women who want to be dominant, but in general we really want and need a strong man. Not a man we can control but not one that treats us as an ignorant child or animal either. I could not have made 19 years work with a man I could push around because I would not respect him. But I would not have stayed with him if he didn't respect and treat me as an equal either. It is hard to raise sons in a culture that encourages men to either be a pansy or a neanderthal.

                                                    Last question, I read all the time that guys think women want a man that's an asshole. But really the problem is that, like I said above, most guys seem to think being a domineering and abusive asshole is the only alternative to being a soft feminine Male. So women have to choose between a giant man baby or a giant asshat. Do you guys really think we want to be treated badly? Please explain the logic if you do.

                                                      [–]3chazthundergut[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                                      1. We empower men to be masculine. For the benefit of themselves.

                                                      2. If you must choose, raise Neanderthals. We have a million years of biological hardwiring driving our desires and behavior as a species. Women are not gonna stop craving strong, dominant, masculine men any time soon.

                                                      3. Yes I know that women like being treated badly. This is based on observation and personal experience. Don't hate me for pointing out the obvious- I didnt make you into the machiavellian, fickle, hypergamous beasts that you are. Blame God or Darwin.

                                                      [–]modTheRedPike[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                      Why are you arguing with vaginas?

                                                      [–]magx014 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                                      Why did you have to mention the fact that you're a woman to ask about societal gender shifting?

                                                      [–]Dawnguards-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

                                                      "When our boys stop acting like chicks, maybe our women will stop acting like dudes.

                                                      Final thought:

                                                      You don't become the King by chasing after the Queen. The Queen comes naturally, as a byproduct of you being the fucking King."

                                                      Hello, we have internet. I guess You dont understand how much internet affects women, men, society..

                                                      [–]3chazthundergut[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

                                                      I guess not. The other night I had a chick request to suck my balls, after she had already swallowed my semen and I had put my pants on. I said yes and pulled my pants back down and she sucked my balls.

                                                      Good thing I am more worried about becoming the King than some goofy bitch. Or the internet, for that matter.

                                                      [–]danoranika 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

                                                      Niggas act just like bitches these days... let that sink in...