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The Federalist reports that the mother has accused the father of child abuse in their divorce proceedings "for not affirming James as transgender" and is looking to strip the dad of his parental rights. "She is also seeking to require him to pay for the child’s visits to a transgender-affirming therapist and transgender medical alterations, which may include hormonal sterilization starting at age eight," the report adds.

The father has been legally barred from speaking to his child about sexuality and gender from a scientific or religious perspective and from dressing his son in boys' clothes; instead, he has to offer both girls' and boys' outfits. The boy consistently refuses to wear dresses, according to the father.

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The author warned, "If we do not save [the boy] from a misdiagnosis, his next step is chemical castration at age eight, only two years away."

It's not secret on TRP that feminism has been on a war path to remove power and agency from men. It's actually somewhat impressive the depths they'll go to to gain absolute control.

Feminism wants to increase opportunities and options for women while minimizing potentially negative outcomes. For men, they want to increase the risk in any sexual behavior, decrease options and opportunities, and increase liability.

And here we are with the latest liability.

Want to teach your son/daughter standard gender roles? Now you're evil and courts can take your kid away.

Never mind the fact that encouraging this behavior in children before they're even aware of what sex is leads to one of the highest suicide rates known to any group of people. If you're a man, the message is clear: You're not allowed to have influence in your child's life if the Marxists make up a new mental illness and impose it on your child.

This is an extremely perverse one, because it sexualizes young children and paints it as compassion. Even level-headed women are easily taken in by this with the idea that there should be a discussion with your child about it. (Essentially child abuse).

As parents I think it's important that we do not even entertain such ideas. Media is doing its fucking best to get these ideas into the heads of children as young as possible. Young children are impressionable and have no idea what they actually want. They will mimic and emulate what they see others do.

Prudent parents would not mistake this as an actual interest in becoming trans. They would set boundaries to prevent this mimicking behavior. As soon as the child moves on from this awful phase, they'll be happy their parents didn't indulge in it and chemically castrate them when they were 8.

This is just another inch (read: mile) taken by feminism as they crusade against men and boys, and dismantle the family and the role of the patriarch. And it's one that every single one of you are going to need to fight tooth and nail if you choose to have kids.

Follow up: Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.


It really is disheartening to hear what this father is going through. I checked out his site for his kid, savejames.com:

  • James is a 6 year old boy – his mother is attempting to change his gender
  • James prefers to be a boy, but since the age of 3, his mother has chosen to dress him as a girl, and call him by the name “Luna”
  • She has enrolled him in school as a girl. He is currently in 1st grade. The teachers and administrators know that he is a boy, but the other parents and students are unaware
  • He is undergoing “social transitioning” therapy to prepare him for chemical castration at age 8
  • James’ father, Jeff is fighting to protect his son all alone
  • His mother has support and financial backing
  • Jeff needs both financial help with legal fees and help networking to find expert witnesses who will help him keep his son safe
  • The court is requiring Jeff to pay for transgender therapy and the future sexual mutilation of his son
  • Courts have enjoined Jeff from dressing James as a boy at school, from teaching him that he is a boy, and from sharing religious teachings on sexuality and gender
  • He has been accused of ABUSE for saying that his son is a boy

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 193 points194 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

We don't trust children to choose what to eat, because they'll try to live off hamburgers and fries.

We don't trust children to decide where to go: they'll go somewhere harmful to them so we protect them from wrong paths in life.

We don't trust children to decide when to go to bed because they'll stay up all night, be unable to concentrate, and not get the education the deserve.

We don't trust children to decide what school to go to because they'll follow their friends rather than acting in their long term best educational interests.

We vet their friends to be good influences, and don't allow our children to associate with bad or damaging influences.

But if that child says "I'm female today", then we go ahead with life altering chemical adjustments that destroy their bodies and their lives.

Past generations would call this child abuse. Future ones will too.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I really don't get it. You can't even open your open bank account without an adult before the age of 18, yet you can completely alter your body with chemicals and surgery at 8 years old.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So long as you're converting boys to girls.

If you went the other way it would be abuse.

Because society judges female to be correct and male to be wrong.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not everywhere just in the backward west.

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Past generations would call this child abuse. Future ones will too.

This shit is our age's Lobotomy.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

haha true that

[–]Selfishaltruist181 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, people are still lobotomized today, but usually in cases of severe epilepsy where if you don't get a bit of your brain sliced off you will die from the brain damaged caused by your seizures. I honestly think it will get the same sort of stigma as having your child get a tattoo or having your child have plastic surgery (when its unwarranted).

Also source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4234051/

[–]pacukluka 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As far as ive read from the text above, the boy wants to be a boy but his mother insists he is female/transgender and dresses him as a girl and calls him a female name

[–]BewareTheOldMan 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes - I got that too.

The boy wants to be what he is - a male...and the father is trying to help his son to adult manhood.

What the hell is wrong with the mother?

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 11 points12 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

But if that child says "I'm female today", then we go ahead with life altering chemical adjustments that destroy their bodies and their lives.

I'm not in favor of horomone treatment of minors, but it doesn't do the discussion any good to make shit up. Even for adults, gender reassignment work has a battery of requirements and a long waiting period before treatments can begin.

Medical ethics panels have hashed this out at great length. This is NOT something that is done spontaneously or casually. The quote above is not at all congruent with actual medical practices, so why introduce it to honest discussion?

I think the mother is starting the ball rolling at the beginning of a mandated 2 year period, but will not succeed in bullshitting the system all the way through the checks and balances involved if the kid doesn't earnestly and unquestionably want to proceed at any stage.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Those "standards" were created by the same people who decided Gender Dysphoria was not a mental disorder after all and look at that! You are totally mentally sane just because you want to chop off your tally-wacker. A boy can be a girl if she wants and YOU are insane for questioning this logic.

I have read stories of 11 and 12 year old children delaying puberty so they can take hormone treatments later. I have read stories of 12 and 13 year old children being given sex changes and THEN when they turn 20 they decide to change back....Oops, turns out, once you give hormones and especially once you invert your tallywacker into a vagina that the best you can give the boy who decided she was a girl who then becomes a girl via chemical castration and at that point decides he is a boy is a micropenis. Sorry about that little guy.

Hundreds if not thousands of children have been subjected to this body and mind altering regimen and 40% end up committing suicide yet this transgender thing continues and is encouraged. It is encouraged by a variety of groups, including the medical establishment, so spare us any so called "medical ethics.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have read stories of 12 and 13 year old children being given sex changes and THEN when they turn 20 they decide to change back

An obvious tragedy, that any harm reduction based policy would strive to prevent.

this transgender thing continues and is encouraged. It is encouraged by a variety of groups, including the medical establishment, so spare us any so called "medical ethics.

Activists and people with a personal axe to grind (both for and against) have no place in the decision making process. Emotional motivations lead to bad decisions. Right now it's a wild west surrounding this emerging human ability; I'm arguing for strict scientific standards and case by case vetting, toward a future where this technology must be managed. Simple 100% prohibition will lead to worse society-wide outcomes than intelligently managing, limiting, and regulating it.

[–]Drekalo 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't see how a child at the age of eight is going to understand "these chemicals will inhibit your natural ability to be a man", or be capable of doubting his mother when she's also a medical professional and supposedly a trusted figure for families and kids as a pediatrician.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

how a child at the age of eight is going to understand

I agree that permanent developmental alterations are not indicated in almost all minors.

Stepping back a bit, I think we have to dispel the straw man so many ITT present, that someone (parent, child) can just wake up one day and decide to do this and the medical establishment will just go along with it immediately. From what I understand, it's at least a year process to apply for gender reassignment as an adult, and involves a panel of doctors, psychologists etc, with MUCH higher bar to even consider a minor.

This process is specifically designed to weed out cases where the person is making an inadequately informed decision, or like the case in discussion at the behest of another person like the crazy mother here. Even if she wins the right in court to begin the process without the Father's consent, she'll then have to go through this long and detailed vetting process before the medical establishment would consider doing it. If the situation is as described, where the child does NOT identify as the opposite gender, I expect they would be kicked out of consideration at the first consultation.

If the pediatrician Mother decided to forge ahead on her own, she'd lose her state medical license in a heartbeat, and probably face criminal charges and loss of custody of the child on top of that.

To me, any approval of anyone including adults using permanent gender reassignment tools is conditional upon all of these checks and balances in place.

Now, returning to the "almost all." In the vastness of humanity, there exist individuals with bona-fide gender dysphoria who identify and behave as the opposite gender from a young age and throughout adulthood. These are the ones that strangers with broken gaydar can recognize as children, and who grow up to get mastectomies or take estrogen to grow boobs.

Now, medical science is capable of helping them develop the secondary sex characteristics they prefer in the first place.

The current state of medical ethics considers this a bridge too far; the current compromise is to offer horomones to block puberty until they can consent as an adult to take opposite sex horomones. The outcome is better to some than surgery after normal puberty, but less good than developing at the normal age of ~13.

There is demand for gender reassignment, and thanks to medical science, there is now supply. This is reality, whether or not you wish to utilize it. Prohibition won't stop it and will increase overall harm to society, a lesson from things like steroids, drugs, abortion, and alcohol.

This is a serious matter that won't go away if ignored or prohibited. How and when to use it belongs in the hands of trained and regulated medical professionals, psychologists, and medical ethics experts, and that is the state of things today. It doesn't belong in the hands of unilateral individuals like the mother in the story, or ideologues biased strongly for or against using it, especially those with no personal skin in the game.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

. Even for adults, gender reassignment work has a battery of requirements and a long waiting period before treatments can begin.

Read the article. Chemical modifications start at age 8.

Medical ethics panels have hashed this out at great length. This is NOT something that is done spontaneously or casually. The quote above is not at all congruent with actual medical practices, so why introduce it to honest discussion?

Medical ethics panels???

These people do not operate in a vacuum. They won't chop off my leg if I'm convinced I'm a pirate, but they'll chop off my dick if I'm convinced I'm a woman.

Gender is simply not physically reassignable. You don't become female just by wishful thinking.

If I was convinced I was black, could I get tattooed so I can maintain the pretence?

I think the mother is starting the ball rolling at the beginning of a mandated 2 year period

This is a CHILD. Decisions are made for that child that are hugely damaging. Even "the child thinks it is female" is not valid because those thoughts are instilled by others.

but will not succeed in bullshitting the system all the way through the checks and balances involved if the kid doesn't earnestly and unquestionably want to proceed at any stage.

And this is my point: if the child earnestly and unquestionably believed he should have his ear cut off, would we? What about a leg? What about an eye? Of course we fucking wouldn't. Only the penis is allowed to be electively removed.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

They won't chop off my leg if I'm convinced I'm a pirate

Things that there's no actual demand for make useless analogies.

but they'll chop off my dick

This is not an option for minors, thus not relevant to this particular discussion. Horomone treatment /= surgery

If I was convinced I was black, could I get tattooed

That would be painful and dumb, and there's no compelling reason to offer this option to minors, so another weak analogy. I'm not in favor of tattooing children.

Even "the child thinks it is female" is not valid because those thoughts are instilled by others.

If there's even a scintilla of evidence that the idea is pushed by anyone but the individual, then I agree it should absolutely not be allowed. If I thought flat out prohibition would be the most effective tool for our society to prevent cases that are later regretted I might agree with you that it should be prohibited by fiat.

I personally have a huge ethical problem with deciding for other humans what they can and cannot do based on what I would do personally. Given our commitment to individual fulfillment in the face of societal resistance, it's curious to observe all the ways RP men are willing to impose conformance to their standards on others.

I don't believe that TG people will take over, or that they are a threat to me individually or to society at large.

I also don't believe that the best way to safeguard individuals like the kid in the OP is to impose prohibition and lose control of ALL research, standards, and control of access to an emergent black market.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Things that there's no actual demand for make useless analogies.

You will have to explain how that is not a perfectly legitimate analogy.

Man comes into doctor and says: "Doc, I feel like my left arm is an alien creature that is not part of me. It is not part of my identity. I want you to cut it off."

It is 100% the same except without preternatural feminist joy of conducting another castration.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is 100% the same

No, it's not the same as gender dysphoria, nor is this example the same as phantom limb syndrome. The medical establishment has developed standards of care in these unusual cases, and they don't include amputation on request, any more than gender resassignment would proceed by a simple request, or include penectomy in a minor.

[–]Throwawayhelper420 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is not 100% the same, but it is essentially the same. It amounts to, “I do not feel that my physical body matches how I feel my identity is.”

So give the arm-alien a year of counseling where you stress that what he is feeling is not mental illness, and after 1 year you will remove it if he still believes it.

No, in this situation the doctor would say a more polite form of “LoL you crazy fuck here is some antipsychotics” not “Well after a year you still believe it, so let’s indulge you.”

I haven’t seen any firm science that can demonstrably show whether someone is transgendered or not, it looks to be mostly cultural. I could say the same about alien-arms. They both have about the same physical evidence.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They won't chop off my leg if I'm convinced I'm a pirate

Things that there's no actual demand for make useless analogies.

On the contrary: thought experiments are very useful.

but they'll chop off my dick

This is not an option for minors, thus not relevant to this particular discussion. Horomone treatment /= surgery

There are still permanent changes. As an adult they'll chop your dick off if you ask.

If I was convinced I was black, could I get tattooed

That would be painful and dumb

In that regard the same as gender reassignment surgery then.

and there's no compelling reason to offer this option to minors, so another weak analogy. I'm not in favor of tattooing children.

But you are in favour of reassigning their gender based on external social factors? Or do you believe that children are unaffected by the world they live in?

If there's even a scintilla of evidence that the idea is pushed by anyone but the individual,

How can children NOT be affected by wider society? Have they not seen TV, read a book, met a teacher or talked to friends?

I don't believe that TG people will take over, or that they are a threat to me individually or to society at large

Right.... but this isn't about you or society, this is about the child in question and the rights of parents to decide their children should be gender reassigned. (I do not take the child's wishes into account any more than I'd listen to any other dumb wishes a child may have).

I also don't believe that the best way to safeguard individuals like the kid in the OP is to impose prohibition and lose control of ALL research, standards, and control of access to an emergent black market.

I'm pretty sure noone else is suggesting that either.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

On the contrary: thought experiments are very useful.

Fair point, but there is a gradient of strong and weak analogies.

There are still permanent changes.

Secondary sex characteristics are an order of magnitude different than altering primary sex characteristics in a minor

As an adult they'll chop your dick off if you ask.

A dumb move by my standards and wishes, but if a competent adult grasps the concept and desires the state, and they don't harm or burden others in the process, I see no basis for forbidding it. It's not a simple ask in any case.

But you are in favour of reassigning their gender based on external social factors

The effect of tattooing isn't diminished by waiting till the age of majority. It's comparing apples and oranges, but good analogies for gender change aren't easy to find.

this is about the child in question and the rights of parents to decide their children should be gender reassigned.

I agree, and if I haven't made my position clear enough, this example case is obviously NOT one that should be allowed to proceed even to an initial consultation. I'm not arguing the mother should be unilaterally allowed to put this boy in for reassignment, at this point I'm arguing that this case doesn't mean that in no case ever might it be justified.

I'm pretty sure noone else is suggesting that either.

I'm damn sure most people expressing disapproval are, by simple default rather than careful consideration of the facts and nuances of the issue. It's easy for people to deny a permission that isn't theirs to give, over an issue that doesn't even involve them personally. They hate having it done to them of course, but seldom make the connection. Freedom is something you can't have unless you're willing to give it to others and all that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The issue regarding your first part of the comment is that most parents are shit at raising their children, and that often when a child comes to teenage years, they might already be actually wiser on a lot of things than their parents, yet need to obey them because "parents know better" TM and most don't have the resources to move out at that age.

Parents know better - not neccesarily. Only if they truly do know better. Being a parent alone doesn't cut it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

and that often when a child comes to teenage years, they might already be actually wiser on a lot of things than their parents, yet need to obey them because "parents know better" TM and most don't have the resources to move out at that age

Right, and that's the transition into adulthood.

Parents know better - not neccesarily. Only if they truly do know better. Being a parent alone doesn't cut it.

Right... but no good parent lets their child do whatever they like.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, and that's the transition into adulthood.

Fair enough.

Right... but no good parent lets their child do whatever they like.

Agreed.

[–]xerotolerance879 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well said. There are also transgenders out there who regret transitioning. You’re born as the gender you are, nothing changes that.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re born as the gender you are, nothing changes that.

Except wishful thinking and entitlement

[–][deleted] 192 points193 points  (45 children) | Copy Link

South american here reading this... What the fuck is going on north america?. All i can think when reading this is, that boy could be any of us. Thats just madness, alienation, feminism has gone too far, and im concerned because that cancer ideology has been forming here in argentina too.

I get what people mean with "enjoy the decline", but we must step up and take action, how can we let women chemically castrate a man when he's the most vulnerable??? The joke has gone too far and it must stop.

[–]CensorThis111 89 points90 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

I get what people mean with "enjoy the decline"

I have always disagreed with this. For a mens-empowerment subreddit "enjoy the decline" is probably the least manly thing you can do about a decline.

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Dare I say it - enjoy the decline is a beta move.

Imagine if you read a similar situation in a history book about the fall of the Roman Empire. Rome is beset on all sides by barbarians. Enemies are within. Their women are whores and their sons act like women. What do these men of Rome do? Oh, they say fuck it, the civilization is lost. Let's enjoy as many women as we can. That's so incredibly beta. If you read it in a history book, you'd say "what's wrong with the men of Rome?"

But for some reason, it's okay today to enjoy the decline.

[–]makeshift98 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's "enjoy the decline" because there is nothing you can do. Are you gonna start a blog, or make a bunch of "white genocide is a crime" comments on YouTube? The West is fucked in a myriad of ways that have so much inertia there is no stopping it at this point; it's going to take a collapse to set things right.

To quote Hotel Rwanda: "people are just going to say, 'oh my god that's terrible', then go back to eating their dinners."

[–]BewareTheOldMan 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hear you - I don't want society going down the tubes, but are we supposed to One-Man Army this mess?

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you fight to protect rome, you have high chance to get killed and when you are finally back you are old (15 years of military service !) all in exchange from some land. Only interresting if you are poor and manage glory through military means.

If you are from a wealthy family there enough available to not do anything useful and to get laid all the time.

There people saying things are doomed all the time so it itsn't clear if there even a problem to begin with.

Finally if there a problem, is it really your problem or the problem of the previous invaders that may loose their power and be replaced by the next one?

Not saying one should think a way or another, but for me there no obvious good behavior. It depend of so many parameters...

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

The amount of shit that a person of group of people could get now is immense. The GOVERNMENT is the enemy USING WOMEN as a weapon.

So your example is weak because it makes everything sound so easy.

[–]chrisname 13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Probably easier than fighting Huns and Ostrogoths.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that's false. It's a different time, a society of instant gratification and consumerism. People in ancient times were raised to be potential warriors. Life was hard. People are a product of their times. Today's society doesn't produce warriors, it produces sensitive pansies and chastises those who fail to toe the line to this standard. Just look at the big issues in the western world today- posting pictures of your face smeared with your menstrual blood on your face to make a weird feminist point. If these people were in Kenya or somewhere else, in a state of constantly fearing for their life, they wouldn't have time to make mountains out of molehills. And you know why it isn't easy? Because you're not fighting against women. You're fighting against bigoted men who actually believe in the feminist mythos. And now you have transgender, gays etc, further blurring the lines between men and women. The western society is ruined. Just wait till the Us gets a lesbian feminist or, better yet, a transgender homosexual man, for a president and people at large will finally realize how fucked up things have become.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Huns and Ostrogoths.

Obviously you are a gentleman and a scholar, your knowledge of history is impressive but I doubt it would be easy not only for men as a whole to congregate, but for them fight for one cause; not to mention they are fighting against an established system with indoctrinated soldiers of all levels

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah. Because one man could make a difference fighting huns and ostrogoths (like basilarius). One man cannot make a difference when fighting feminism.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

So men only do things that are easy?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Thats a very daft response to what I typed. For example, the panama papers, a single brave woman was about to out some RICH people. She died in a car bomb last year

It's obvious who did it but they are powerful.

Men can come together and fight against an establishment that already has indoctrinated soliders aka military and police and secret societies and secret service agents and fbbi and CIA and so on and so forth

BUT

they are very likely to lose. All it takes is a bit of logical thinking

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Sure, just like the Western Romans lost, but it's still beta not to try aka enjoy the decline.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

You probably know much more history than me; I just think this is an international problem in a GLOBAL world. With the internet and surveillance the way it is, men can try but if they are to win, any sort operation must be covert

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

You’re literally just making up excuses

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm telling you why it literally will not happen

I understand you are an idealist that puts way too much energy into your fantasies but it has not happened and will not happened for the reasons I stated and some reasons that you may observe as well

[–]Bonesteel50 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Truth is, an individual can't stop the rivers flow. The answer is'nt to force yourself against the tide (fall) but to navigate it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1 well I think an individual can ultimately make significant change but that quite unlikely. It is matter of statistics, we are all competing with each other for attention, power and everything else. So it is only the overall balance that make a difference in most cases.

But by recignising how the world is working, embracing it you can have actually more effect on it than by going against without an actual strategy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But do you know how the mighty roman empire wasted away? Constantine ( "saint Constantine") had a lot to do with that. Rome went from a having a religion that instilled warlike attitudes in men to having his men embrace a religion of love and turning the cheek. Now Christianity was nothing like that, on closer view, but the effects on Rome's armies were felt. Now, why did the romans put up with their crazed emperor's whims? That sounds like not doing anything to me, so I don't think you've picked the right comparison.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont think Gibbon was correct when he blamed Christianity for Rome's decline. The society would have tp be faltering already if a new religion even had a chance to take hold. Moreover, rome was divided between east and west by the time Constantine came to the throne.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

werment subreddit "enjoy the decline" is probabl

its obviously a facetious quote but if taken logically it still makes sense. The decline has happened already and IS happening. Either enjoy YOURSELF whilst the decline happens or fight against something that you will not win.

You only beat this shit by either being alone, or living in a rural area with your family

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

or living in a rural area with your family

Yep rural is best, preferably agriculture if you can (even as a side job). If you live in a town, keep it below 60k people.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad I'm not the only one thinks this way

[–]twofones 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So this is in Plano, TX. Which court is it? Is there only one court? What’s the district? What’s the zip code? Who lives in the community? Do they even know about this? Who is the judge? This is all public information.

Why is there not a string of abuse lawsuits against mothers like this one?

Men and the citizens in general are under attack by our the courts and our institutions. “Feminism” can’t do shit. The courts can, the men that show up at your door to make you comply can.

We desperately need to upgrade our vocabulary for personal and organizational accountability.

This isn’t feminisms fault, it’s not a psycho moms fault, it’s not the cuck dads fault. This is the court enforcing and even entertaining this.

There are actual human people accountable. We need to take this approach modern-Nuremberg style. Now.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im on the other side of the world, so cant do much atm... my best guess is to post this story on reddit and hope for the best,

[–]noPTSDformePlease 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

there is no longer any evolutionary pressure on humans living in north america so none of the shitfucks are dying off. Once the shitfucks reach adulthood, they continue to be shitfucks and we get stuck with this kind of crap.

[–]tempolaca 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Deep truth here. In nature, crazy mom would basically kill all his children and her genes wont pass. Now, they pass.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually if she have her way, they wont pass as she is about to castrate her child.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think humanity need a natural predator, too much safety is not good for the brain. Its a good thing A.I. is coming, some terminators may put humanity back to sanity.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Brasil is even more cucked, Bolsonaro's election was a total south american Trump election: leftist media fake news barrage, prophecies of the end of the world and the gays, using (cucked) universities as political stages, etc...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you from Brazil? Can you tell me more about Bolsonaro?

I am from India so don't understand all the videos in Portuguese. He seems like a man who can get shit done.

[–]Stonesaint 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Here you go from a fellow Indian,

http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com/archives/5660

[–]NegaoDaPaixao 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Esperança irmão, lembra que você ta num dos sites mais "esquerdizados" da internet, e uma comunidade dessa ta vivendo

Eu pessoalmente to feliz pra crl, fazer arminha na cara das feminazi é bom demais mane. É A NOVA ERA

[–]miramardesign 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Men are disposable moreso in the first world. A) there are more machines and technology to reduce the importance of men's roles.
B) the constant stream of male majority immigration makes the first world a sausage fest . Thus men are starved for female attention and the blue pills will do anything to get the girl

Source I live in Argentina

[–]odaklanan_insan 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A) there are more machines and technology to reduce the importance of men's roles.

Who do you think are building and maintaining those machines?

B) the constant stream of male majority immigration makes the first world a sausage fest . Thus men are starved for female attention and the blue pills will do anything to get the girl

If most men had understood the red pill concept, the problem would probably be solved. Women are not that hard to manipulate. You could apply TRP principles to your life, but propagating them is a different story. why do you think this sub is quarantined?

[–]miramardesign 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gender ratio matters and collides with red pill concepts. Yes the alphas will always win out with the ladies but the gender ratio affects behavior and also how he upper betas fare. The 3rd world and the first world ghetto has a different problem, the lack of males make hookups too easy but men don't have to commit thus most kids are fatherless. The ghetto because a large amount of males are in jail and the 3rd world because a large amount are in Miami.

Immigration is a touchy subject nowadays but we should mention that if it's primarily males , that upsets the gender ratio of an area. Ie I'm not so racist as to not want single young Mexicanas into my country neither are most redpilled men. However we are sick of the continued devalorization of men that gendered immigration and gendered socialism represents

[–][deleted] 244 points245 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

What the hell is going on? This is sickening. As if I need more reasons to not have a kid in this society. If anything, this is child abuse by the mom, NOT THE FATHER. 8 years old is way too young.

[–][deleted] 102 points103 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Part of the reason why TheRedPill is Quarantined right now is because of this dynamic. This isn't new either, throughout history, government/religious/corporate institutionalized abuse (child or other) periodically rears its ugly head like clockwork. The prevailing group-think wields ultimate unchecked power, and starts exporting human suffering at increasingly large scale. It's at this point where groups like trp form like bacteria forms on food left out. The institutionalized child abuse is a sickness and cancer on the American republic, and we call it out in no uncertain terms, and when we do, we're shouted out of the room by NPC-wojacks shrieking the prevailing bankrupt ideology of virtue signaling group think.

I'm reminded of that ancient Rudyard Kipling poem: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473

"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you..." The TRP Quarantine are the sound and spoils of ideological victory. The question is how to we divest the mentally ill of their scepters without doing too much collateral damage. That poor child is being subjected to government enforced institutionalized child abuse. Any fair minded judge would see it that way, and yet, here we are witnessing arms of the government enforcing what everyone can plainly see is injustice.

[–]patrixxxx 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. We have to start questioning things we never imagined we should/could. Our reality has been hijacked and it's not just about gender issues. Start here cluesforum.info

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of the reason why TheRedPill is Quarantined right now

I agree. What a sick, sick realization. They literally cannot handle the truth and instead of facing truth and accepting it, they prefer to change reality and punish anybody who dares to look beyond the false and twisted reality they have constructed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not even ancient 120, years ago. Great Poem I have it on the wall an ex-girlfriend painted 'IF' for me on canvas as a gift. Kipling is awesome.

Ancient is Ovid and Catullus. Who were banging Patrician wifes in Rome.

[–]CainPrice 24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Dad's not helping himself in this case. It's a lot to ask of him really - maybe an impossible thing to ask of a father - but I'd bet good money that Dad has been a dick about this.

And now mom can run to the court and say Dad's abusive, she feels threatened, he's "bullying" his trans-kid. She can use every instance of Dad (very understandably) being an ass and being angry and letting his anger show as additional ammunition - clearly his trans-kid is a girl and is just scared to be a girl around dad, etc.

If Dad was ever emotional about this and angry about this and did anything dick-ish about this, which I would bet a lot of money he has, that alone can cost his child everything even if Dad's right.

Which isn't fair. It's impossible to ask a father in this situation to keep his composure. But if Dad has ever acted out about this, even once, his odds of winning for his child drop to almost nothing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What trans-kid? There are no trans-kids period. If dat hoe was my wife, I'd send her to North Korea with an amazon drone.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The red pill rules Reddit rules and prudence prevent me from telling you what I would do in this man's situation.

[–]Kpwn88 30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you are a sexy man, and give your wife sexy sons, she will want them to give her sexy grandchildren. Ask me how I know.

I feel for this man and his son, but at the same time I know this man fucked up bad by even impregnating this woman. Broken home with a beta cuck father and virtue signaling SJW feminist mom... My guess is the son doesn't stand a chance either way.

[–]Thor-Loki-1 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

6 years old now, dude. 8 is when they chemically castrate him--shoot him full of hormone blockers.

[–]themanbat 36 points37 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If the laws and government don't stop this nonsense, before long we're going to see a spike in the murder rate.

[–]Quo21034 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

...laws and government are encouraging and enforcing this non-sense.

Everyday more globally

[–]yazen_ 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not in Muslim countries.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer 35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the kind of stuff that goes too far for my mind to be able to process.

If society accepts or even encourages this, then something is seriously wrong. The problem must be a whole lot deeper and one day it will blow up in face. I suggest moving to other country. Do not be in debt. Have an exit strategy!

[–]1Redsqa 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, this guy needs to move out the US and take his son with him, whatever the cost. That's what I would do, nobody is fucking castrating my boy against his will even if we have to go and live in Turkmenistan.

[–]CainPrice 83 points84 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The same people who declare that there is no such thing as gender roles, and clothes should just be clothes, toys should just be toys, and there should be no such thing as boy stuff and girl stuff - just stuff, will turn around and tell you that if a 3 year old boy who doesn't know the difference between boys and girls doesn't object when his mother dresses him in girl clothes, he's clearly a trans-gender girl.

[–]GirTheRobot40 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/X9JLij1obHY?t=11781

Right here Eric Weinstein points out exactly what you're saying. It's constant contradictions. It's the contradiction of "I'm a woman so you couldn't POSSIBLY understand what I'm going through" mixed with "We need to make policy based on what I'm going through you MUST understand."

Or the classic "Gender is a social construct. Women can have armpit hair and bulldike haircuts and act tough like men" but the moment a male wants to "act" like a female (see: chopping his penis off, having long hair, wearing dresses, putting on makeup) then she is an empowered woman and we should respect her for behaving and acting like a woman.

Or my personal favorite: Women are perpetually both victims and strong, independent creatures who can do anything they want.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep. Women have the unique position of literally having everything in life handed to them, while at the same time being told they are victims.

[–]RepulsiveSkill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Please keep in mind that there are some of us who don't think we are victims. The only person trying to victimize me is feminists who supposedly are fighting for my liberation from the made up patriarchy. I can agree that there were times in the past where men victimized women, but it wasn't every man and we are so far past that now.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remove all gender identifiers from around forming children, can't object to what they can't differentiate. This is some comunist party level shit right there.

[–]TheAC997 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"If you think the sexes have mental differences, then you're sexist. Also, the biggest difference between men and women is their mental differences, if you think otherwise then you're transphobic."

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 45 points46 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I want to see a response from the woman. I’m not saying I expect to be proven wrong, but I can’t find a single instance where she has spoken publicly about any of this and most of the sources come the the fathers site.

As it is, obviously this is fucked beyond belief. Especially the part where he acts like a boy around his dad. If we could meet the kid maybe our mind would be changed.

In any fucking case, why are they letting a child make legal decisions??? It’s so easy to manipulate a child that it’s absolutely unfair. If the mother really is dressing him up as a girl, there’s a 2000% chance he’s going to be in a therapists office bawling one day, wondering where it all went wrong.

Parents who force their children to believe their political opinions are fucked in the head. Good parents let their kids believe whatever they want and let them come to their own conclusions, and don’t shield them from reality. If she walked this kid into a church, they would filet her with insults because it’s wrong. The only place he would fit in is a Clinton rally. And she is fucking with his social life because all his friends at school are going to know him for the rest of his life as the freak whose parents have problems.

[–]CainPrice 51 points52 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

There's this thing called gender mourning. Mothers who really, really wanted to have a girl, but only have boys can become grief-stricken and depressed. After having a second or third child and not wanting any more children (or their husband not wanting any more), all boys, they feel an extreme sense of loss as they realize they'll never have a little girl.

Mom in this case is literally mentally ill and needed a therapist for herself, not for her son.

But she's a mid 50's pediatrician. A doctor. So she's convinced herself that she's smart and educated and knows about medical shit like this, and she diagnosed her son with medical gender dysphoria, seeing only what she wants to see due to her damaged mental state. And she therapist-shopped for a practitioner that would approve her diagnosis. Now she can have the girl she always wanted.

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The father should be able to make a counter-claim if he has custody and go to literally any therapist to ask them without him in the room. I will say from reading the guys stuff, if he felt the therapist was legitimately getting his son’s real opinion, he would probably take it. It’s the fact that the mother is essentially fronting for “Luna’s opinion” with whoever confirms her belief. This is really just all kinds of fucked up.

[–]CainPrice 36 points37 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She sees what she wants to see. Her son is a 6 and loves his mother, like most 6-year-olds do. He seeks her love and approval, like all children. So when he's with his mom, he does what he thinks she wants, he says what he thinks she wants to hear, and wants to please her.

So in mom's world, her son really -is- a girl, and when he acts like a boy for his father, it must be his evil father coercing him to do so.

It's not that mom doesn't care. It's that mom is mentally ill. She literally believes she is doing the right thing because her brain has convinced itself that she is acting on her child's behalf instead of for the selfish reasons she's actually doing this.

Some mentally ill women drown their kids in the bathtub. This mentally ill woman wants to sex-change her son.

The alarming issue isn't mom. It's how quickly liberal society will leap to do anything anti-male. How the fuck was she able to get a court order fast-tracking a six-year-old boy for sex-change without more substantial medical evidence?

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. Of course it’s not a girl this time but if they made their girl dress up like a dude I think they would be calling them womy haters. I just want to know why liberals always cling to anything in aversion to tradition. If anything is different, they’re the first to defend it no matter how fucked up it is.

[–]1ozaku7 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My mom has a friend who moved with her husband to the middle east. Her husband wanted a son. She gave birth to 9 daughters, and won't be surprised if she got stoned in all the wrong ways by now.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet none of those daughters was told she was a boy and given hormones and a tallywacker. I also think most people in The middle East know that the sperm decided the sex of the child (until moms are empowered to say otherwise when the kid is 6).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I assumed it was gender mourning immediately

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet the reports are that the judge is so far agreeing with the mentally ill mom.

Vagina > Mental Illness

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Here's the initial court filing. I only skimmed it but it appears to back his case.

http://savejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Younger-VS-Georgulas.pdf

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, come on. I'm not trying to be a jerk here but reddit's TOS are very clear.

I can't stop public record from being public record. But we can't post that public record here.

If that doesn't make sense, join the club. But that's how it is.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly the responsibility for finding a good mother rests solely upon the fathers shoulders. There is no way in hell a social justice uni snowflake will ever bear my children. Get that fucking shit away from me. Long before children happen the woman should be properly vetted and her core beliefs/values explored to avoid trainwrecks like mother in this story.

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

oh yeah good chance this guy knew she was nuts. He should have voluntarily participated in a mental evaluation himself, brought that to family court and request she do the same. If I knew I was divorcing a total loon, I would do that. Otherwise this kind of shit is your new reality.

[–]Quo21074 points75 points  (36 children) | Copy Link

All of you people in the US, Canada and Western Europe are really fucked.

And I mean everybody is fucked, because this is going to backfire on women as these abused generations grow up.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 73 points74 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No it won't, women will just blame men for allowing their retarded behavior.

[–]kurisuotaku 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When Islam takes over the west, are you sure you sure they'll dare open their mouths, let alone speak against a man?

[–]DeontologicalSanders 24 points25 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Internalize this now: Nothing ever really backfires on women. They are simply not held accountable for bad behavior to anywhere near the extent that men are, and really have not been at all since we stopped branding them with a scarlet letter for being capricious and adulterous.

Not all women are bad decision makers. Not all bad decisions are made by women. But when women make bad decisions in arenas in which men are involved, it is always men who end up shouldering the blame and bearing the cost.

And even in circumstances where women do end up suffering tangibly because of their own poor choices, they never truly accept accountability for them. They almost always find a way to shift blame and the emotional burden on to a man. Even when women fuck up, they never truly feel the weight of their fuck-ups.

This is why getting angry or frustrated or emotional with women in the confines of a relationship is never effective. She'll just get mad at you and throw a tantrum because you're trying to blame her for something.

[–]saucierlol11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Aftee WWII, french women who'd been married to german soldiers and nazis got punished by being publically (not pubically.. only the head) shaved and shamed. What kind of punishment is this? These women knew what they were doing, they were selecting what they thought to be the dominant males regardless of any morals or ethics. Granted, they didn't know about the death camps, still it was an invading country, and one that we had already been at war with not 20 years prior. They betrayed their country for social financial comfort and just got shaved, where proven male collaborators were hanged. Why didn't they hang the women?? I would argue that marrying and mixing blood with the enemy is the highest of betrayal, and yet they just got shaved...

This is the extent of women not being held accountable for their bad behavior.

[–]DeontologicalSanders 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We don't punish women as harshly for any crime, because women are more biologically valuable than men.

Let's use an extreme example to illustrate:

Tribe A has 20 women and one man. Tribe B has 20 men and one woman.

In Tribe A, the one man can impregnate 20 women virtually all at the same time, whereas in Tribe B, each man must wait a minimum of 9 months for his "turn" to reproduce with the one female. And that's not to mention the high probability that within Tribe B, 3 or 4 of the strongest, most capable men would band together to form a monopoly on the one female, and leave the other 16-17 fighting violently for their "turn" or abandoning the tribe altogether. Within the span of one generation, Tribe A's reproductive viability as a group is many times that of Tribe B, due to an abundance of women.

In short, hurting, punishing, or ostracizing women to the same degree as men is a behavior that has been bred out of humanity over time. The tribes who engaged in such behavior would eventually find themselves in a position of reproductive scarcity and face dying out.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Crucial point, thank you

[–]Andgelyo 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, the majority only. If you’re a minority growing up in the ghetto, your masculinity will be cultivated and saved. Growing up as a minority in the hood is the same as the traditional America back in the day. You grew up without shit, so you work hard and the environment forces you to be a tough man. It’s why so many black guys and minorities are killing it right now. I grew up in dirty jersey and the kids today in the urban environment are still red pill as fuck.

[–]LeadVitamin13 7 points8 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Calm down, you guys act like its the whole generation and not just a few screwed up people. Parent have been fucking up their kids for generations, this is just a new variation. If you don't believe me head over to the raisedbynarcissists subreddit. The only way this may be worse then raising your kid as a racist or religious fundamentalists is if they actually get chemically castrated.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t think the issue is really the craziness of the mom. The issue is how this has gained traction in this libcuck clown world society. The father is clearly the voice of reason here, not wanting his son and wife to make an irreversible and life altering decision of castration at the age of 8.

How the fuck do the courts end up on the mom’s side of this? We need a return to the patriarchy pimp hand badly. It won’t happen tho.

Of course there have always been insane parents, like the woman who drowned her kid in the bathtub. But there was never any societal sanctioning of that. This lunatic mother has the sanctioning of our leftist infested legal system. What a fucking joke.

[–]LeadVitamin13 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No I think it is the craziness of the mom that is the issue. You think that if it wasn't for feminism or social justice that she would be acting perfectly normal? She'd find some other way to fuck up her kid, its what narcissists do. There are perfectly legal ways of fucking your kids up too. Sane, well adjusted people see SJWs and feminists for what they are.

I've pointed out plenty of ways the right has legitimized horrible shit in government so its not just a left problem. Like this is any worse then a kid being born in a religious cult like the Westboro Baptist Church. The right and religion is just a blue pill as the left.

[–]Quo210 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I think hearing the horrible stories of people being raised by mentally disturbed parents is less worrying than witnessing the government systematically and brutally abusing children.

[–]LeadVitamin13 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Again not new, what about all the Catholic priests that molest children and are simply relocated, most of them don't see any jail time when they should be hanged. Most religious fundamentalism is seen as freedom of speech and religion.

I'd be most red pill men identify as libertarian yet when they see something they deem as wrong, and I agree it is, they want the government to intervene.

I feel awful for the dad but he shouldn't have stuck his dick in crazy. Guess this is what happens when beta soyboys actually do get a feminist pregnant.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You are more likely to be molested by a public school teacher, than a Catholic priest.

[–]LeadVitamin13 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They actually get punished for it though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, the complicity of the Church hierarchy is inexcusable.

But the reason the media has a field day with the Catholic church is because, historically, the Church has been one of the most staunch anti-liberal orgs in the world.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Compares raising child to be religious to raising child to believe it is the wrong gender —> loses all credibility

[–]LeadVitamin13 -6 points-5 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Yea the magical, all powerful, sky man is much more believable then possibly having inclinations to acting the opposite gender.

I think he should be able to choose both, not have it forced upon him.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Thinks people can choose their gender —> loses all credibility

[–]LeadVitamin13 -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did I say that? —> loses all credibility

Not making an argument and acting like an NPC —> loses all credibility

Bleh, you made me use that retarded term.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are both faggots. Debate don't argue

[–]LeadVitamin13 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey man I tried, hard to argue with,

You called us both faggots? —> loses all credibility

[–]Incel9876 -2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Yea the magical, all powerful, sky man is much more believable then possibly having inclinations to acting the opposite gender. I think he should be able to choose both, not have it forced upon him.

First off, you've already capitulated to the enemy by using their terms, "gender," rather than sex. Second, public atheists are automatically traitors to the patriarchy, and deserve no rights. If men want to preserve their nation/race/civilization/tribe, women need to be keep in check, and cracking down on Leftist men will do it, the 99.999% of the women will fall in line just seeing their white knights and cucks being removed from any place of influence.

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[–]1Ramesses_ 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Calm down, you guys act like its the whole generation and not just a few screwed up people.

The argument you applied here should also be applied to this subreddit. A few screwed up incels in here does not make this the new incel subreddit.

[–]LeadVitamin13 -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Whether its a few or more is up for argument. I don't even know why this article is in here anyway. It doesn't have anything to do with game, or self improvement or anything else red pill. Shit like this is probably why this sub is quarantined. Its a lot easier to quarantine a sub that posts this stuff as opposed to men just trying to improve themselves and get better with women.

[–]1Ramesses_ 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sadly I agree with you but this place isn't a democracy. The higher ups here are clearly American and with a real political bent. So it is what it is.

[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Talking about feminism's effect on male sexual choices has always and will always be on topic. We talk about the cultural and political powers that affect men in many places, including the USA (where a majority of our members are from.)

We also talk about the UK and India.

Feel free to discuss your home country if you want.

[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You must be new here.

Talking about feminism's effect on male sexual choices has always and will always be on topic.

If you don't understand how this related to sexual strategy, sit down, stop talking, and read the side bar.

[–]LeadVitamin13 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So the feminist boogey man is everywhere, maybe this is the new r incels.

Well good luck with that quarantine. Despite there being some dumb shit here this is a large of amount of good stuff as well.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True parents have been a wrong up kids for centuries but judges did not back them in the long before time about 5 minutes ago.

[–]destraht -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Calm down, you guys act like its the whole generation and not just a few screwed up people.

These malformed people will migrate to specific cities and so if you live there it will seem like it is approaching an entire generation. As far as I'm concerned the only question is how many weirdos will there be in the entire country and so therefore how many cities will they be able to take over through weaponized migration? The battle over the last few generations was about creating the context for giving a shit for hyper-aware consideration and that battle has been almost entirely lost. The only thing missing in specific locations are the quantities of extreme victimized nutters. I see it as a timeline race of weirdos taking over all major city centers vs a collapse that simply makes life too difficult for people to care about nonsense over their own needs. Then the difficulty is getting things back on track when there is so much entrenched mental illness. So of course you get out of the immediate city if you can so that you are somewhat insulated from the day-to-day insanity. However, if you are in a failing country, failing state, failing county and failing city then there simply will be no escape for you. The masses will find you through violence or taxation. You probably most definitely don't want to live in a hardline blue state because their future is looking like California and worse Illinois sooner than later, and they always double down.

One thing to be aware of is Agenda 21. Its basically a declared intention of funnelling everyone into specific concentrated locations so that the King can have his deer. In my state of California, they are through ineptitude (at the very best) burning us out. I've seen with my own eyes the immediate aftermath of the fires and shit is majorly whack with that. I've been out in the field for soil remediation (yes I'm a career software developer but I did that) from as soon as about week 3 and witnessed the houses burnt to a crisp with none of the trees touched except the ones that felt the heat from the house itself. I'm talking about houses in heavily wooded areas where only the cars and houses were touched!!!! It reeks of something like a drone or DEW (Directed Energy Weapon) attack. I saw this with my own eyes and I heard the concerns of registered professionals. I then went to youtube and I watched videos from two local lifetime fire fighters mirroring my observations and concerns about it being in part unnatural. I can't speak to the very recent Paradise fire, except that it sure did a lot of unprecedented damage right after the last (in some cases) record breaking destruction.

So the land is "conserved" and you are encouraged to share your city hall with a bunch of emotionally fucked over people. Check out how much land is reserved or owned by government. Check out how much of the population lives within so many miles of "the border" and so is in a constitutionally limited region.

[–]SKRedPill10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I must quit the media asap. It'll make me think that this country (and most of the world) consists of retards and little else. And maybe that's not too exaggerated either :)

[–]Andgelyo 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s why it’s fuck the world from now on.

[–]Batmanforreal2 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You Americans are seriously fucked. How the fuck is this shit even possible?! I would murder that hoe before shit like this happens to me.

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[–]LtCrunchy 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is insane.

Equally insane is how young these boys are being targeted. Until recently I worked as a meditation guide in Los Angeles and some of the girls working there were SO excited about a TWO YEAR OLD BOY who "said he wanted to be a girl" -- and the boy's parents were already getting him ready for transition.

TWO.

The ladies were mortified when I strenuously objected, calling it child abuse. Thought never crossed their minds.

Was fired a few days later.

[–]lukkassu 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nobody should be taking any of this seriously below 12 years old at an absolute minimum.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Two years old is nuts. Heck, I remember in elementary school around 6 years old, I probably did stupid stuff like eating glue. Yet people think those same 6 year old kids should be making decisions about what gender they should be for the rest of their lives.

When you are that young, you don't even have a true grasp on the types of food you should be eating. It's up to your parents to choose food for you.

[–]luzarius6 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the many reasons I abandoned Democrats. No offense to Democrats here, but your guys side has been compromised by insane leftists. The sooner you get that under control the better. My advice to Democrats is to disavow and condemn the far left. Democrats have always traditionally and politically center right, rational & logical, the sooner you return to that, the better IMO.

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They don't care about voters like you abandoning them anymore. They'll just import replacement voters from abroad, or train them in their indoctrination centers schools.

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Please don't violate reddit's TOS.

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Please don't violate reddit's TOS.

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[–]NikolaGeorgiev 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A leftist in 2010: Relax, bigot. It's not like the state is going to take your son and make him gay.

2018:

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 18 points19 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

This is terrible on the face of it, and there aren't many people (myself included) who think horomone therapy is a good idea for minors.

Rather than accept this at face value and sit here stroking my justice boner over it, I really dug in to research for myself the available information about the case.

I found several markers that the story being circulated is incomplete and propagandized.

  • The same basic article is rehashed on right wing propaganda sites like Breitbart, who have destroyed their credibility with me by repeatedly running headlines contradicted by their own body text and facts publicly available elsewhere. Many of the instances of the story on the internet are computer generated content. I found no live interviews with any of the parties.
  • No mainstream news sources reporting this story, not even a local FOX affiliate in Texas.
  • Questionable claims in the narrative, like a court finding the father innocent [sic.] Courts NEVER find a person innocent.
  • The legal documents are preliminary and interim hearings, not final judgements. The bulk of them consist of boilerplate divorce and custody verbiage that isn't specific to this case.
  • The temporary restraining order hearing struck 2-1/2 of the 3 requests regarding the Father's involvement with the school (P.43 of the SaveJames PDF)
  • The permanent restraining order hearing was scheduled for 9/11/18; nobody is reporting the outcome of this
  • No new information about the case published after the 8/30 TRO filing

My conclusion: This case didn't go far in court, but people with an agenda are reporting this as though it achieved actual legal traction and milking it to forment outrage over a failed legal maneuver by a crazy woman and her crazy therapist.

If this case is still active, I'd be interested to learn the facts and modify my conclusions accordingly. I feel for the Father and hope the final judgement will correct the financial injustice imposed in the preliminary stages of the case. But... I'm not willing to participate in an outrage party that cherry picks the facts of the unfolding case.

ETA: Don't linger on the savejames page. I came back in to my laptop lagging with the fan roaring on high, the idle tab was using a lot of processor and over 4gb and climbing of memory.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It does smell fishy, regarding the publications.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If you have time, here are the docs:

http://savejames.com/court-documents/

I'm sure it's public record if somebody wanted to query the court. Since the hearing was 9/11 I'm not that surprised we haven't heard updates. Often motions and rulings will have 60 days for others to respond. Courts move slowly.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I made time, and read everything available. Most of the people commenting on this story everywhere and passing along the propagandized version appear to have skipped that step. 9/11 --> 11/29 is more than 60 days.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

And Brandolini's Law:

The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The initial filing does appear to back the story. Whether the outcome is in his favor or not is still up for grabs, but that's in the title "might."

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Anyone can file a BS lawsuit or meritless legal claim. I'm agnostic on the implications of this case (victory for radical trans activists, defeat for masculinity) until it is actually adjudicated.

Rooting for the father and son in the mean time.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, read any Complaint in any civil matter, family law or not, it's wild and grandiose accusations with zero proof. That's just how Complaints are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

right wing propaganda

SMH - anything that doesn't toe the left-wing propaganda line is right wing propaganda.

[–]Platos_slow_brother 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not secret on TRP that feminism has been on a war path to remove power and agency from men.

The quarantine line at the top of this page being one example near at hand. They are easing you into a ban but fear the optics of doing it all at once.

[–]whats_the_deal22 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there any way we can help this man? I mean fuck I've never been the protesting kind of person but this is the sort of thing that should see people outside the courthouse demanding justice.

[–]Sara_Solo 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Here's a white pill for you guys: we're in the thick of it when it comes to this transgender hysteria. It will get better in the not-too-distant future. The next generation will laugh at us and compare this hysteria to the lobotomies of the 50s and the religious hysteria over satanists in the 80s. And there will be a lot of sadness over what we allowed to happen.

The problem we are having now is that after decades of activism, progressives are running out of people to make equal and protect from discrimination. Before, it was blacks, women, atheists, gays. Now it's transgenders and other gender stuff. What's next though? What are their pet projects now that could take center stage in the future? Pro-disability activism, pro-pedophilia activism, pro-prostitution activism, and pro-obesity activism. Look at the trend. The activism gets smaller and smaller. Less and less necessary--it's unsustainable for a multi-billion dollar industry that dominates our domestic political discourse. This post-equality activism is perpetuated by the desire to do good where there is no necessity for such to be done and so it is inevitable that in order for this to come to an end this type of narcissistic activism must become a threat to society.

There truly aren't very many people who were meant to be the opposite gender--personally, I put the statistic at around 0.5%. What there is a lot of though are people who express themselves at times in ways that don't conform to gender stereotypes. The tomboy girl who wears basketball shorts and plays ball. The momma's boy who was raised to be sensitive and caring. The guy who liked acting and theater. There's even a lot of people who were born with features that don't fit the stereotypes. The short guy. The tall girl. The hairless guy with a small dick. The flatchested girl with facial hair. All of these attributes are being weaponized in a desperate effort to create a base for whom to advocate for.

But when you apply this to children you're pretty much ensuring that some will adopt transgenderism for the wrong reasons. Children are malleable and easily inspired/persuaded by their parents and teachers. There's a reason why ISIS were able to swiftly create fighters out of the children whose parents they had killed. What if simply exposing children to sexual ideology was enough to infect them--like a virus? Notice how the studies looking into this are being blocked and suppressed as with Bath Spa and Brown Universities respectively. These cowards know that what awaits to be uncovered will deal a fatal blow to the activism industry by exposing them as fools that pushed for the sterilization of children, perhaps, through their desire to do good on the outside, but in reality due to their desire to feel good on the inside. And 5-15 years from now when the studies do finally come to fruition and make their way into court precedent and school policies...hopefully fake activism will be dead for many generations.

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The problem we are having now is that after decades of activism, progressives are running out of people to make equal and protect from discrimination.

This isn't a problem for them. They'll just bring in new victims to vote for them. I see no evidence whatsoever that things are going to improve soon.

[–]alphabachelor 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Transgendered children are like vegan cats.

We all know who’s making the lifestyle decisions.

[–]avengerofhusayn 20 points21 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of the case of John Money. Where an extremely decorated “gender expert” in the 70s or 80s, was convinced via his own malformed intuition, that all gender was culturally/socially created.

He convinced parents of a child with a botched circumcision to raise the child as a girl to prove his point. He performed all sorts of weird experiments on the kid and his brother, ostensibly in order to cause the kid to self-identify as female.

Anyway the kid’s brother ended up schizophrenic as an adult and also later committed suicide. The kid himself was convinced he was male and repeatedly pressed his parents on this point, until at the age of 13 his parents revealed the truth of what had happened. He then took several surgeries to transition over back to being male.

Either way he didn’t make it, probably because of psychological trauma. He was married to a woman at a certain point, but the relationship didn’t work out due to his traumas/insecurities and he also ended up committing suicide.

Ultimately I think it’s extremely funny that that Money fellow was so decorated and socially esteemed. He was a university professor, I think. But upon close inspection the guy was totally retarded and perhaps evil. It makes you wonder what we do today that we consider to completely normal and acceptable, but upon close inspection, really isn’t. (Hint: extramarital sex (AKA zināʾ) is a complete sin and we should avoid it like the plague because it produces people like Elliot Rodger. Contraception is also evil, thank you.)

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He performed all sorts of weird experiments on the kid and his brother,

That's putting it lightly. He made them watch porn. He made them get naked and inspect each others' bodies. He made them simulate sexual positions.

It was straight up child abuse.

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WTF.

[–]CensorThis111 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He was a university professor, I think. But upon close inspection the guy was totally retarded and perhaps evil.

Welcome to why having an absolute respect for peer reviewed journals and academic institutions is retarded.

The pursuit of science should be everyone's priority - but news flash - the ego-addled idiots responsible for gatekeeping our 'science' are often majorly corrupt, and often escape accountability.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

you should post this as much as possible.

In my opinion it is because people believe in God that they believe in 'authority' so much; they just blindly believe. Or may be it's because we are inclined to believe in authority that we believe in God

Who knows What you said is very important. It's obvious that most people use 'peer reviewed' research to confirm their own bias anyway (everybody does)

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Science, esp. Social science, is infested with dogma. Just because your source isn't imright.com doesn't mean it is a credible source because it starts with The Journal Of.

critical thinking is always mandatory. Automatically believing a source because it's academic and peer reviewed is outsourcing your own beliefs and thinking. That's dangerously lazy

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

(Hint: extramarital sex (AKA zina) is a complete sin and we should avoid it like the plague because it produces people like Elliot Rodger. Contraception is also evil, thank you.)

That was otherwise a good post of yours, but that part is a bit random.

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The group involved in the action is a religious group. Random religion pops up everywhere in their site.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

John Money.

Thats the problem with throwing out REAL religion and CULTURE. I'm not religious in the normal sense but because of it's absence, people have gone WILD and thus, mental illness arises, people like E Rodger are produced. It will only continue as shitty social media is perpetuated. I bet even one day, reddit with have profile pictures

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ultimately I think it’s extremely funny that that Money fellow was so decorated and socially esteemed.

Simple: he was there at the right time - in the circles he moved in (progressives in the 70s), his ideas were novel and were compatible with the marxist or marxist-influenced idea of man and everything being a social construct; but not too late to make people realize that what he produced was bogus science of the nastiest sort.

But it gets even worse: the unwavering support of feminists he enjoyed. Here's something I wrote elsewhere regarding that issue:

the most influental figure of German feminism has stated [that men and women are exactly the same] and even written a book about it ("Der kleine Unterschied", i.e. "The Small Difference") where she said that only true difference between men and women were the set of genitals they were born with and everything else was just coming from the way they were raised differently as a consequence. Her awesome case study to bolster that bold claim? David Reimer, I shit you not (the book was written in the 70s). She never renounced what she wrote. Not after Reimer publicly came out as an unwilling guinea pig for "Dr." Money's human experiment, not after he committed suicide. And while she was a controversial figure in Germany ("because the patriarchy hates me!" not literally, but her statements can be summed up as such), she wasn't a fringe figure or an outlier in the movement.

And this was by the way second wave feminism, i.e. the sort that even those who are critical of the modern day tumblrina-feminism still consider to be of the "good" sort. So no, even back then, feminism wasn't merely about equal job opportunities, fair representation in the media etc. but a whole slew of other shit as well.

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[but] It gets worse; because feminist perspectives like these were unquestioningly accepted and repeated as gospel by progressive media. Take for example this magazine, a well-reputed and popular moderately left wing and liberal (liberal in the European sense) weekly, which was (still is) quite influential here. Well, this was what it wrote in 1984 (remember, at that point David Reimer was already living as a boy for 4 years) in an article about the malleability of gender (clumsy translation inc):

Physicians from the Johns Hopkins University even turned a unique boy into a girl. The unfortunate child had undergone circumcision with an electric device (which had worked just fine with her identical twin brother) and the penis has been charred by a power surge. At 17 months, the mutilated genitalia were changed surgically.

The parents raised the child as a girl from now on, and came to the conclusion it was more delicate, less wild and more vain, just simply girlier than the brother. The scientists, who had the unique opportunity to draw comparisons with the twin brother, saw an unchanged but small remnant of masculine behavior in the character of the child. But as they had predicted, by far the flexibility of the human material prevailed: growing up, the artificial Girl felt like a girl - and everybody took her for one.

tl;dr: It's official, gender is a social construct! Put a boy into a dress and raise him like a girl and he'll also for all intents and purposes be one! This was in a mainstream journal.

Now you may ask why did they do it? Well, in that case I simply have to point you to the feminist (Alice Schwarzer) who wrote that book and that way disseminated her biased knowledge of the case throughout Germany; and apparently her account (or that of Dr. Money) was never questioned and taken as fact, despite her having every reason in the world to omit any deviation from her narrative (which she also did, as I said).

[–]JeanetteAlvarez 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

extramarital sex (AKA zina) is a complete sin and we should avoid it like the plague because it produces people like Elliot Rodger

It's not extramarital sex that produces Elliot Rodger. It's raising boys to be weak that produces Elliot Rodger.

Here's a great breakdown on Elliot Rodger's mindset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f6TAoo1lLI

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The real sin there is using unfounded religious texts to make conclusions about the reality of the world. Religion is just another blue pill.

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[–]tempolaca 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I did exactly this. Well not that much money, but have enough.

You will always want a LTR, no matter how much pussy you slay, you are genetically predisposed to it, can't fight it.

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[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just date them for 1 or 2 years then eject.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men power is commitment, never commit and you'll rule. Commit and have a kid with a gal that have a say on the kid education, and you are a bitch.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

C) If one desires children, use your resources to get a surrogate and pay for nannies, teachers, nurses and whatever else needed to raise the child.

What makes you think removing a mother won't fuck up a kid just like removing a father?

[–]lukkassu 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Single Mothers typically (not always) exert vast negative influence on children, rearing weak boys and damaged girls.

Good Single Fathers remain objective and cultivate their children with their resources (time, affection, discipline, education, possibly hired help)

Bad single fathers certainly exist, but a man's tendency towards logic over emotional solipsism gives him far greater theoretical potential as a single parent.

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Actual statistics on both cases ? I am sure you can find many ill children raised by single mother, father or by their 2 parents...

I think there higher level of issues if raised by a single mother, and we can find statistics. That would be interresting to get statistics for single father. I don't assume by default.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I used to live in this area. The thing about Coppell is that it is upper class white, affluent, very conservative but it goes to show how effective propaganda has become on white upper class suburban women who previously were reliable right wing/conservative votes.

Women think/vote on emotion, not logic or reason. So when we get bombarded by the NWO propaganda, women are more likely to react to it emotionally and fall in line.

The goal is to create a divide amongst a traditionally conservative voting bloc and flip these conservative woman into SJW liberals using emotion and fear mongering.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes 100% this. In the rare times that I've told someone that women shouldn't be allowed to vote, they ask if I think women are too stupid. They aren't stupid, but they 100% think with their emotions and are much more likely to believe a dominant social narrative. This is just so painfully obvious to me that I can't believe anyone can't see it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This story really caught my attention last night. Like: "WHAT THE FUCK, I NEED A SHOT AND SOME VALIUM" kind of attention.

Let me dog whistle the Blue Pill with another story about my sons. I woke up my 10 year old to tell him the story last night. The first thing he said was: "You woke me up to tell me that story?" I told him: "I just need you to tell me what you think about it." He said, "Dad, its obviously crazy, are you on drugs or something?" I hugged the guy thanking him for my sanity and told him that all the comments around the story I read were in favor of the Transgender mom and I thought I was losing my mind. He put his hand on mine and said reassuringly: "Dad, you are not crazy. The world has gone crazy." He went back to bed laughing.

Even a 10 year old CHILD sees it clear as day- yet we have a judge ordering the dad that this CHILD cannot be "forced" to wear gender appropriate clothes? What the ever living fuck is going on? A 6 year old obviously does not get to choose his gender and how can a judge order the father to dress him as a girl and not encourage him to dress as a boy when the mother MERCILESSLY and nonstop encourages and coerces this CHILD to dress as a girl.

My son is right. The world has gone batshit insane with this Transgender Insanity. Increasing "big names" are literally enforcing it on us. Twitter bans anybody who dares to incorrectly use a persons desired "pronouns." I am going to be banned because I am calling nobody Zhe. Zhe can go fuck Zhemselves- which is probably bannable as being hetero-normative cis-gendered.

WHY AREN'T GOOD MEN STANDING UP AGAINST THIS INSANITY?

Make no mistake, this transgender thing does not come from the gay guys. It is a direct offshoot- a failed abortion- of FEMINISM. The movements are directly linked by ideology and history. This soul-less ball of cells has grown up into a monstrosity and I ask again:

Where are the men speaking up against this? Where are the protests in front of this judges courthouse? Where are the letters and the emails?

So I guess...the plan is just to sit back and watch it burn?

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WHY AREN'T GOOD MEN STANDING UP AGANST THIS INSANITY?

There's literally nothing we can do unless we want to violently overthrow the government and strip female voting rights. They are the majority of voters. They believe whatever the dominant social narrative tells them to believe. The left has a stranglehold on the mechanisms of society that produce this narrative and I don't see how we can break that. Maybe someone could create an alternate Hollywood? I doubt it though. The left's control over education is literally unbreakable though.

[–]buttgoogler 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is tragic.

[–]chaosmech 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If he wanted to put a stop to this insanity he could just claim his son is gender-fluid and that the mother is the one trying to deny the son's sexuality by forcing him to be one gender. I'd love to see the mental gymnastics the feminazis would have to do then.

[–]Thor-Loki-1 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't see this mentioned, and it's important.

The Pediatrician who made the diagnosis: IT WAS HIS MOTHER.

THE SAME ONE WHO WANTS TO CUT OFF HIS DICK AND MAKE HIM A "FEMALE".

And...she's the only one who's done the diagnosis.

Can you fucking put yourself in his father's shoes. How absolutely horrifying and depressing.

Keep men to be men, and stay strong in heart, mind, and soul.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is crazy.

Parents don't allow their kids to get tattoos because kids are too young to make such a permanent decision. Chemical castration is 1000x more serious.

The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50%. Parents who push/encourage their kids to become transgender should be aware of what they are setting their kids up for.

[–]Gorech1ld 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is some sick shit. This is truly fucking sick shit.

He is undergoing “social transitioning” therapy to prepare him for chemical castration at age 8

Look at this fucking shit. Say what you want about the Christians and their gay shock therapies, at least they never went so far as to fucking CASTRATE their own fucking kids. This kid is a victim of state response misandry at this fucking point.

[–]Freedom__Fighter 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so beyond fucked up

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If that mother wins the case there would only be one thing left to do if it were me. I'd take my son far away and leave the country if needed. This would be in fact to save his life, not out of spite of the mother. I'd send the mother regular updates about the son though. I wouldn't care if I was a wanted criminal, I would know my conscience is clean and the right thing was done.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This can't be real. I can't believe this. They must have missed the facts our left details out. Could a mother really be that evil ?

[–]lukkassu 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's a woman. Not evil just ruled by her own emotional reality.

[–]RepostGhostCst2Cst 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So don't play the game. Don't get married. Don't have children. Society is going to crumble. Don't feed it. Just stand back and watch

[–]JonathanMekerset 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck

It’s time for war

[–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My question is how long before the fathers in situations like these realize that their kids would actually be better off in the horrendous abuse and sex trafficking ridden foster care system....and proceed to ensure by whatever means are necessary that the mothers are incapable of even having custody over a bowel movement.

That said....never knock up a feminist/SJW. This is what happens when a man makes that mistake.

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can’t agree with this any harder than I do. I would use any means necessary to prevent this from happening. Any.

[–]Thizzlebot 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is sick. A lot of kids have weird stages imagine feeling like a girl for a few months and your parents castrate you. That kids gunna commit suicide before it finishes school.

[–]red_philosopher 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to the newest form of female abuse of power over the parental relationship. That man needs to get a seriously high-caliber lawyer and get all the dirt that he can on that bitch and grind her ass into the earth. There is NOTHING that would keep me from performing the unthinkable were my ex to attempt to interfere with my parental duties to this extreme.

Dads Get Mad.

[–]HeyDontDoxMe 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like I gotta save a few tens of thousands to clone a Boba Fett of myself in China in a couple decades.

Screw co-parenting. Single parenthood all the way.

[–]PFCX 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sick and disgusting. This won’t come to fruition or last in America. Also this is why we look for red flags in women we marry or birth with.

[–]kagetsuki32 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You guys should read this http://redefininggod.com/the-rockefeller-plan-for-the-brics-new-world-order-in-their-own-words/ it may explain why what's going on is happening.

[–]geo_gan 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a fucking disgrace. They’ve gone too far this time. The mother is the fucking psycho in this situation and the one abusing her child. How the fuck is the courts agreeing with that bitch???

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is fucking disgusting, what has this world come to.

[–]magx01 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's always tuning boys into girls. Hardly ever the reverse. It's so obviously a socially reinforced dogma rather than a reflection of a biological reality. And the irony is, it's child abuse yet he is the accused abuser for trying to stop her abusing the kid.

Modern western society is infected with a disease right now and I am not sure if it will recover.

[–]RepulsiveSkill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's appropriate to have a discussion with your child/potentially seek therapy if the child brings up to the parent feeling like they might be a different gender. Most of the time that would happen because they happened across information about being transgender and don't really understand what that means, hence the discussion. Sometimes children actually do have the feelings and it's important to talk about it with them because most of them will grow out of it and those that don't at least deserve come therapy to figure out how to handle it.

This case is so disturbing and as a woman it seriously enrages me that a mother would do this to her child. Child transition SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN. Children aren't mature or fully developed and should never be able to make life altering decisions like chemically sterilizing themselves or receiving surgeries that literally mutilate their bodies. The way that the mother is attacking the father, even getting a restraining order that prevents him from entering the town she lives in, is so absolutely disgusting. This man is trying to protect his MALE twins and it is so awful that he is being forced not only to go along with it, but to pay for it as well. I pray everyday that some conservative, decent lawyer will hear about Jeff's case and take it up pro bono, as money seems to be one of the biggest reasons he isn't able to fight this more.

[–]SwagnumMagnum 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well tbh, if your six year old boy wants to be a sissy... There's not much you can do about it. He might just have the sissy gene. At 6 most boys are concerned with their favorite cartoon or comic book character. Maybe pwning other fellow kiddies on fortnite or minecraft. The alpha boys are gearing up for their first contact football season.

That's most normal six year Olds. This kid sounds like just a weirdo. Yes, kids can be fucking weirdos to. The mother sounds week and very millennial scum. These people should not breed. You should need a license to breed. We have licenses for cars and guns... Why not breeding.

What will probably happen, is this kid will be a little sissy bitch. And he'll have a terrible time come puberty. Or... Not. I mean kids don't even bully anymore, so he'll probably be accepted.

This is the modern America. It's weird. It's strange. It's fucked. Avoid if feeasble.

[–]xerotolerance879 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So the father is “abusing” his son by telling James who he is while the mother isn’t by forcing him to be a girl? Seems like this is how our society has turned out, sad.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to point out the referenced site SaveJames.Com includes the following nugget of stupidity:

HOW YOU CAN HELP:

PRAY!!! SEE PRAYER LINK FOR INTERCESSORY PRAYER RESOURCE.

When a rich woman, backed by crazy judges and bad laws, come to destroy a child's life, what can you do?

Sit a in room doing nothing, whispering to the magical daddy in the sky.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

His faith is important to him. What's your point? Prayer and religion are comforting to a lot of people.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If he wants to feel comfort, instead of saving a child, he's a terrible activist: get shit done son.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

His lawyer is probably advising him against everything that would come natural to a man, because the moment he fucks up his case is done. In another comment I said if I were him and the case failed, I'd take the child to another country to save his life. Once the child is 15 or 18 I would return to the original country and face whatever punishment comes with the knowledge I had saved my son.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And they say there is no God. Only true metaphysical evil can justify this demonic thinking.

[–][deleted]  (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Please no doxxing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t see the post as it has been removed so I don’t know what he wrote, but I’d just like to point out that if he only released the woman’s name and contact info, this is not doxxing. Legal proceedings are public information and there is zero expectation of privacy.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

We gotta be strict with the rules. It may be public but you'll just have to find it elsewhere.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You personally provided a link to the court filing in a post above... it has the name and address of both the husband and wife.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's linked in the news article as well.

But on reddit it's against the TOS. So we don't do it here.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the maddening aspects of the quarantine. TRP's rules and moderation go above and beyond to comply with the letter and spirit of Reddit global rules.

[–]2dox 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone please give me this link

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s literally the first thing in the post.

[–]AlexDr0ps 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is gonna be my new go to when arguing with a liberal that they are messed up in the head

[–]zyqkvx 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is there a gofund me for this man? I don't see one. My advice is everyone go donate $5 before even thinking about it. You can donate more later if it's still on your mind. My style is to drop $5 every once in awhile to wikipedia, doctors without borders (once) and other no brainers. It makes things work, and I get satisfaction that my donations aren't going to some lie.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would hold off for now. Let's get some verification on this story.

[–]brokenB42morrow 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Am I the only one that thinks it's not safe to have children in america?

[–]Mojiitoo 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just to be sure, how credible is this source? Not from US.

Like, if this is for real its sickening, however dont forget to be critical because this is your classic propoganda hit piece.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Newspeak like gender and the other litany of profanities peddled by these pedophiles is clearly being used here for its intended purpose. Namely to control people’s minds and enable things like this to take place.

Most of these advocates are under the thrall of ancient and fundamentally non human forces and impetus. They pose a danger and a risk to society and when enabled, such as in the case, leads to the dissolving of the human psyche and of society as a whole.

[–]rishiarora 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can we start a go fund me for the Father

[–]insidedynamite 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Age 8 is too early. Usually they started hormone blocker at around age 15

[–]BeornPlush 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus H Christ, he's six.

I couldn't reliably be arsed to state my favorite dessert at 6. As was stated elsewhere, his parents' opinions and attitudes have way more sway on his take than he does himself. Doesn't invalidate he may become T one day, but at six??!

[–]Throwaway_Old_Guy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This was my comment on what I believe is the first post on this subject on men's rights three days ago.

What needs to happen here is for a completely independent assessment be done.

Kid goes away for a week, no contact with either parent and is observed. Give him the options to do boy/girl let him do what he does, and at the end of it ask him how he enjoyed it.

No leading questions, just did you enjoy having fun?

Let him lead this, it's his life. If Mom continues to insist, then deal with her and the therapist.

The very idea that an 6 year old can make a cognizant decision on something this complex and life altering, is preposterous.

Edit to correct age.

[–]specklemouse 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Must be California. I was accused of abuse for cutting of the TV. You cannot win so you must not play.

[–]ZachMeadows 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am honestly speechless... If this is true I really hope she gets what she deserves and that the kid will be fine.

As a father I see a lot of kids boys and girls when I drop off mine, and I love talking to them. You really how education plays a part in a little kid thoughts, and I always try and encourage to think for themselves, even a little.

I'm gonna have a bad day now.

Edit: I removed the hate inducing sentence... I haven't had my first cup of whiskey yet.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are we going to reach a point where that child is chemically castrated against his will?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Marxist make up new mental illness.

This is exactly what happened in soviet russia and communist China. If you questioned the narrative or otherwise became inconvenient, you were declared as suffering from a mental illness and sent away. This is where we get the term brainwashing from.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Bad!

30 days timeout.

[–]TheImpossible1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are the lowest of the low. Pure evil.

[–]tempolaca 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is terrible but don't fall into the shocking-news scam. This is news designed to provoke a reaction in you, and click. No more.

Crazy women exists since forever, and worse mothers always existed. Mothers rape/sell/kill childs all the time.

If this gets widespread, then worry. For now, it's just a curiosity of a deranged women.

[–]magx01 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For now, it's just a curiosity of a deranged women.

Uh......plus the state and doctors and the school administrators facilitating this madness......

[–]yes_kid -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is western society now. If you know this, then don't get married and have kids. I never understand why westerners are always surprised by this stuff. When I was working and living in the west, as far back as 2014, my manager at work was openly and actively turning her 12 year old son gay. I repeat, openly and actively.

Why don't you guys just either accept it, or leave? It's a very big world out there. Stop fighting it, you're only going to get yourself in trouble.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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