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Feeling bad smashing the innocent ones (self.asktrp)

submitted by genyeezy

I prefer smashing fun girls but once in a while a nice girlfriend material chick throw herself at me I can’t say no. But I kinda feel bad after the smash and cut them off.

A few these situation happened to me sometimes I smash them and cut them off. Sometimes my conscience kicks in and I don’t take it any further.

Do you guys get these feelings? If so how do you get over it?


[–]1jacques_cousteau007136 points137 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

That’s what spinning plates is for

Giving girls an equal chance to compete for your attention (and eventually commitment)

“Innocence” doesn’t get you shit. It’s just as superficial as “looks”.

It should earn a girl points in your book, but it doesn’t mean she wins and you should wife her up. She should still prove she cares about you with her actions.

Read HSP’s guide to managing your bitches on the sidebar.

You’re getting suckered by the charm. Don’t get lost in the sauce.

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh21 points22 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Agree with your sentiment mate, but looks do matter, a lot. Don't kid yourself otherwise.

I mean yes, technically they are "superficial" but by the same token so is the entire philosophy you're talking about here.

[–]genyeezy3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I just want to get over CARING about girls feelings. I feel like once I get over that, I ll take my game to another level.

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh52 points53 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Err, maybe if you did care about girl's feelings you'd get somewhere. Relationships are about feelings, whether it's long term or just a casual fuck. Doesn't matter. Being cold and uncaring isn't going to get you anywhere.

Now, if you want to be a total slimeball and just fuck as many girls as you want and bin them the next day, that's fine. No one should judge that. As long as you're not a literal rapist that's no one's business. It's a two way deal. But my point is that even then you need to at least pretend to be emotional and caring. Genuinely believe it, even if you're lying just to get your dick wet. Whatever floats your boat man.

However, I think you're doing the typical incel thing of looking too much into tactics and philosophy (misguided or not) without facing the real issues.

Are you getting girls? If not, why not? THAT is the most important thing to answer.

You cannot trick yourself into a relationship with someone else, whether it's long term or just a one night stand. Forget "women" and "men" - it's just about people. If you cannot understand and interact with people then you're fucked. But you can learn. And that's this sub in a nutshell.

[–]LazerSpin14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just think about it like camping. i.e. - leave 'em better than when you found them.

If you gave them a great experience, some fun times and ended things like an adult (i.e. don't ghost them, let 'em down gently, give them some closure even, etc) then it's fine.

If you're already doing all that then it's starting to sound more like you're falling in love with every bitch who acts cute/innocent.

[–]LethalShade1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. TRP isn't a psychopath training camp. You can have fun, wild and lustful times that leave both of you better off than you were before. Learn the material and use it to better your life and the life of the people around you.

It's not the nice part in nice guys that stop them from getting laid. It's the being an unassertive chump with no boundaries and nothing that makes him attractive part.

[–]LazerSpin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And (since you mentioned nice guys) the expectation that being nice means someone owes them sex.

If anyone reading this thinks that someone owes you anything just because you were nice/accommodating then you better check yourself before you "m'lady" yourself.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well in some aspect or another you’re kidding yourself that you think these girls are so innocent they don’t wanna fuck, if anything they’re crazy letting society tell them that. Just because they’re inexperienced or “innocent” looking doesn’t mean they’re a freak in bed. Usually imo, those are the ones that keep coming back and can’t stop themselves cause they’ve been repressed their whole lives.

Every girl wants to be fucked, before she thinks about it.

All of the disqualifying nature canes after the fact- oh crap I’m a good girl I cant, what would mom think, omg if I got pregnant

Which, who tf cares! If she’s agreeing to fuck you she is, I think you’re getting the wrong idea from red pill in the sense that women aren’t people. Maybe I’m mistaken here, but if she’s saying yes, SHE said yes not You for her! Innocence aside why deny her what she wants? Because you “know better”? Hah! Go get laid bro lmao

[–]buttgoogler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

IMO there's nothing bad in caring about people you spend your time with.

[–]enlightedM1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What is HSP?

[–]Jabbermouth2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

HumanSockPuppet

[–]Wtfbyamey-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where to find the guide?

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Under Reference section of TRP sidebar.

[–]jackandjill22-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yo I can’t find it on the sidebar, is it potentially renamed?

Thanks!

[–]Redraisin4274 points75 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just because she’s acting like she’s girlfriend material doesn’t mean she is. That’s just there strategy to make you want to be exclusive with them. As soon as they find another guy (once you show you’re not interested in exclusivity)they’ll forget about you and put on the same act for him.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev28 points29 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Stop being a faggot. Girls have agency, and they are banging you because they want to bang.

Make sure they have a good time with you, enjoy yourself, and then go home and sleep soundly. And shut up with this benevolent sexism “Oh, but I must self-White Knight for this delicate little flower,” bullshit.

[–]logitech7573 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

this Hahahahahahaa

[–]TheRedApprentice41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Feigning innocence and sweetness is a common tactic to manipulate men into LTR.

AWALT.

[–]DiskKiller28 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s very important that you leave them feeling good about you, especially if you’ve fucked them. Even if you’re just using them for sex, try not to make the “pump and dump” obvious.

Rejection isn’t something hot girls are used to, and it can turn the sweetest girl into a vengeful, nasty bitch and a pleasant night into a (fake) rape charge or at least an accusation just to damage you “because they can”.

Source: experience.

[–]logitech7577 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

vengeful, nasty bitch

ya tell them they are too good for you and give them flowers on the way OUT

[–]MikeAlphaGolf12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If they’re acting innocent it’s probably because you’re an attractive beta. They see you as a good target for a boyfriend so act accordingly.

If your goal is to slay many different women then the best state for you is to give off the unashamed player vibe. She expects to be just a notch on your belt and behaves accordingly. This means you’ll get the best out of most of your fucks sexually because they won’t be afraid to act like a slut in bed. If anything it becomes a competition for some women, who will implicitly or occasionally explicitly, try to be the best fuck in your current circle.

I’ve said for ages on here, if you treat women like your girlfriend, then expect her to act like your girlfriend.

The other benefit is that you’ll get a lot more call back roots if you treat her honestly from the start and she doesn’t get her hopes up. A bruised ego or broken heart is a sure fire way to make her hate you, and once broken, those plates stay broken.

[–]antariusz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are like water, be the vessel that you want them to shape themselves to.

[–]cfbovernfl12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's why even though I've had virgins into me I haven't done much with them. The sex would be mediocre and you'd have to deal with clinginess after. Just go for the 95% of girls who have had sex. Any girl who has already smashed is not innocent.

[–]SteveSan8218 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

No such thing as an innocent woman. That's just hollywood bullshit.

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[–]sdrakedrake1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hollywood and Disney have screwed up so many men

Add anime to that list as well. Damn near every shonen anime you have some shy socially awkward teen having a flock of the hottest women after him including the innocent ones.

Media in general provided fantasies on how women and sexual relationships are.

All the high school dramas with the hot cheerleader somehow leaving her jock star QB boyfriend for the awkward teen.

[–]ovrload5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah even the shy girls want chad to dominate the shit out of them

[–]entrep46 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So it seems I'm not really in agreement with the rest of the comments here.

Congratulations, you're not a psychopath. That's a good thing.

You feel bad about misleading girls who are into you and want a relationship. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Why would you want to change it? Just so you can get more pussy? Feeling good, comfortable, happy about your own actions and decisions should be more important.

It's not about an innocent facade as they other commenters are saying. It's that you know she wants a relationship and you just want sex. You know you're leading her on. And any normal person would feel bad about it. If anything you should feel good knowing you have normal human emotions and care about other people.

[–]TehJimmyy3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

maybe you want an LTR and not plate spinning. Just because people do this and that doesnt mean you have to. just to consider

[–]beginner_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The general advice here is that you need to have spun plates to really enter a relationship that won't end in a shit show. You need abundance in a LTR and if you have never actually had it...

[–]TehJimmyy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

bullshit. have fun missing close intimate relationships. I used to believe what you said 5 years ago because some people said so here . Wheres the proof ? Who says that ? Based on what ? Experience ? Who sets those requirements ? Other people ? Other people telling you what to do will get you nowhere. Thats your job.

It got me nowhere and will get you nowhere. It makes you stuck in your head with invisible pointless rules.

You can change your mindset now. Take most advice here with a grain of salt including mine. You run the show in your life.

[–]IXseed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ain't no room for feelings in the pimp game, bro.

Remember, ALL these girls are hoes. The only difference is that hoes all have varying levels of ability to hide their hoeness.

[–]Krebota1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Innocent girls turn into sluts real quick. Source: my ex

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[–]ihateyouguys0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What’s your go to line when making your intentions clear?

[–]WeddingCrasher91-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good question

[–]tb1512 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever I connect and meet the "innocent ones" they usually end up being the biggest hos

[–]Snowboard181 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah happened to me a few times, felt kinda bad. Then I realized its probably just an act to seem all cute and innocent. Also she'll be fine considering the amount of dudes throwing themselves at her, in other words, she'll get over it very fast.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They're not actually innocent.

[–]Protocol_Apollo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Acceptable losses.

Maybe some of them truly were the innocent type.

But maybe some were just better at hiding it than others.

Girls have a game plan as well.

[–]TheProfitMotive1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OP there is no such thing as a good girl. Eventually you will see that for yourself.

The #1 rule you have to remember with women is - "If you are not the predator, you will be her prey. No exceptions"

This is not some black pill hate women shit. I love women, without them I wouldnt have become the God of War I am today. This is just stating facts.

[–]manfrombelow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a Stoic, first thing I can tell you is, whatever feeling stems from within yourself is all legit and thus should be treated with respect.

Embrace the feeling, accept it and move on from it.

[–]2319Skew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What's an innocent one?

[–]ChadTheWaiter1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t. The innocent ones are not as innocent as you think they are and are just as capable as the others.

[–]PRW630 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If so how do you get over it?

Stop screwing them. Stop destroying someone for you own personal pleasure.

[–]Fabulous-Craft0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For every alpha that uses her, there are 10 beta orbiters she is using.

[–]ay-fuh-q0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even the innocent ones aren't innocent.

[–]sticknsteel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to drill down into yourself to objectively determine why you're feeling shame and guilt in certain instances.

Is it something you're doing and/or saying before (and in order to get the opportunity) to smash?

If so, do you feel you need to do and/or say it in order to smash?

Do you actually believe you would otherwise smash without doing and/or saying it?

Is there a past experience(s) and/or relationship(s) that could be causing you to smash, dash, and then feel bad about it?

These questions will help first lead you to the true root of the problem so that you can then begin to truly address and resolve it yourself (hint: it's not the girls you have assigned to be "innocent").

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Putting innocence on a pedestal. Put that girl into one that's prettier, or one with a different upbringing, and she'll be as much a ho as any other girl.

Liking a girl for her innocence is like a girl choosing someone cause they inherited a lot of money.

Only thing that matters is actions. The tangible value. If a girl doesn't add enough value to justify rejecting the value all the other women in your life add, she isn't worth it.

[–]leotard-princess0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't do it. Don't get over those feelings. Those feelings are what make you human - I don't care if the rest call it blue pill. Being completely shut off from your emotions is channelling your inner sociopath. Keep what matters to you...

Ultimately that's the essence of TRP - not sticking to fucking millions of women because you need it to get validation. Rather not needing to fuck anyone unless you really want to - and it sounds like you don't want to fuck these women but you're forcing yourself to do so because your ensconsing your value in this activity.

Adopt the abundance mentality and go and find a woman that wants a huge bag of sexy pleasures and knock yourself out - keep your conscience and soul. It's not worth giving away so you can be an asshole.

[–]TheTastelessBatman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I always struggled with this but not anymore. Turns out the most innocent ones were the wildest in bed.

[–]Noodlesoupe20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t bang virgins bro it’s not worth it

[–]Infernir0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are innocent when they want to hold up to the values men in society wished they had. These women are typically good at pleasing men and attracting them through femininity, they're also naturally really beautiful and receive much better treatment from men than other girls, so the blue pill dream works for them and succeeds... they get alpha fux happy to be in a LTR with them and beta bucks happy to give them all the validation, money, attention etc for nothing, with no manipulation or malicious behavior needed on their end.

However... innocent girls can change too... and when they do you will be completely blindsided and hurt even more since you thought she was innocent and would never do you harm.

Be careful dude, tread carefully, maybe it won't happen for a few years but with all your talking of wanting to LTR an "innocent" girl, you will be fooled when the time comes.

Also don't be an idiot, if this "innocent" girl is with you because she sees you as the fun strong or mysterious "bad" guy, you suddenly becoming the good guy beta bux for her will make her leave you for the bad guy she wants.

[–]kingofclubsmorde-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't get these feelings.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The most “innocent” acting girls I’ve ever met, were the ones with the most un innocent secrets.

[–]beginner_-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You really think they are that innocent when they openly throw themselves at you?

[–]cman94elder-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea i dont do that.

[–]TheDeadlyZebra-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Innocent women are a myth used to subjugate unwitting men.

Your feelings should be based on reality.

If you feel bad for being another notch for some slut who is pretending to be innocent, that's on you.

[–]Mufasavader88-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the feminine Imperative having a grip on you

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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