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Edit: what do yall think it's worse for them: getting LJBF'd or getting ghosted?


[–]ColonelGray199 points200 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Meh they take it badly for an hour or so then slap a revealing picture on insta for 300cc' of

V A L I D A T I O N

then fire up tinder and they're on to the next one.

However, that hour or so of shock is worth it.

[–]when_its_too_late65 points66 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

300cc of VALIDATION cures anything these days for them. But, then it's funny when they feel super bad about it and then get depressed for being an internet whore and then do it again. Such a vicious catch 22.

[–]1rad_dynamic17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Till they're about 22 and start realising they won't have it forever.

Caught me in a bad mood

[–]when_its_too_late27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe 10 years ago...I doubt they're smart enough to realize that these days ...they keep only fanning till about 40

[–]dkod0664 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They're actually addicted to internet validation, it's mind boggling what false lives some of them lead

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Sonny_Luna2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it is satisfying to flip the script on em

Dang, salty boy! How’s that anger stage treating you?

[–]SoA_MC40 points41 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Others have bad experiences, but I did this to a girl who played hard to get with me when we met, so I simply moved on. But she regretted it and spent the next 6 months trying to get me to fuck her, but in a good way, as in she didn’t get vindictive she just acted more open to me.

Another I did this with after hooking up, and she too just became more available seemingly in hopes that I would change my mind but never got nasty about it.

[–]flgeo73 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did you ever end up fucking the girl in the first story? If so, how did that turn out? The reason I ask is because I’m in that situation right now.

[–]SoA_MC11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No I never did, but that was by my choice. We stayed on good terms and I enjoyed teasing her that she missed her chance with me by playing games. I probably helped out the next guy who asked her out lol

[–]flgeo73 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I ended up fucking the girl in my situation, and it was some pretty bad sex. She still hits me up and overtly says she wants to fuck and give me head but I’m hesitant. Unfortunately I don’t have any other girls, especially with coronavirus going around.

[–]cglehosit22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did that to a few girls, they were each wayyyyy into astrology more than I cared for. One of them never talked to me again, the other tried to text me asking for a date maybe once a month for a year. I had not responded, blocked her number at one point, and then magically her number changed and she tried to talk to me again. This chick seemed like she never got rejected. That was a pretty big moment for me, seeing all the stuff in the sidebar unfold.

[–]jbrat9644 points45 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

It's pretty satisfying. Girl told me she "wanted to slow things down" but still continue to see each other.

(we were just FWB's at the time. Nothing more. It was simply an effort by her to make a power-grab)

I just agreed in the moment and then blew her off for about a month. Let the hamster run in its little wheel.

Then, a month after the conversation she came back literally begging to hook up again. Got to straight up tell her no. So satisfying knowing that whole month she was dying for validation.

[–]SoA_MC22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I had the same “lets slow down” speech once. I just said cool and left calmly, as I was driving home I got a text basically telling me that she was confused and all that, and basically she was catching feelings so wanted to slow down. I said i’d contact her in the future and I did about two weeks later, anyway, it led to the absolute best sex of my life for the next few months before it ended (I fucked it up for other reasons).

[–]jbrat9610 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah every situation is different. With this girl, I wasn't overly attracted to her and I was getting a crazy vibe from her.

I read the signs and saw it was time to run for it haha. I had no desire to keep seeing her after that conversation.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you noticed that it is the crazy ones who try to make these power grabs? Had a 33 yr old girl try to friend zone me twice. First time I agreed and then stopped talking to her. Then she hits me back up and starts flirting. then she does it again and I say Im not looking for friends and then stopped talking. Never got to fuck her but this girl had a lot of red flags Like not wanting kids, admitted she is jaded, admitted that since she broke off a 1 yr engagement She has only had 1-2 month stint with guys, etc...

This is not normal

[–]NeuroBoss314 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love it when women say they are "confused", it's the expression they use these days for "rolling balls deep in the feels for a dude".

[–]Waymar_Royce0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What makes sex the best sex of ones life? Wondering

[–]SoA_MC3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The answer to that might vary from person to person, and their experiences and beliefs etc. For me it was maximum mutual attraction mixed with my circumstances, I was least stressed and most carefree at the time

[–]ogpine03255 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Love this kind of reaction. Make her feel like she's in charge and then when push comes to shove she realizes you don't give a fuck

[–]jbrat962 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And NEVER let the woman set the terms of a "relationship". (using that term loosely)

[–]thegabescat51 points52 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I looked up LJBF and there's a city in Slovenia called Ljubljana.

[–]mugatucrazypills34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

upvoted for irrelevancy

[–]1rugged797 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I imagine the city is probably full of hot girls, but everyone's miserable.

[–]thegabescat2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I actually read about it. Hot girls, yes! Miserable, I didn't glean that.

[–]1rugged794 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a joke. If a city is LJBFsland, everyone would be miserable.

The next city over called FWBsland however...

[–]thegabescat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ohhhhh! Wooosh!!! (Thanks)

[–]Helmet_Icicle3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's Just, uh, Be, like Just Another Known Associate

[–]2319Skew14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A woman's hamster is strong enough to rationalize any rejection.

If you ghost then they will say that you were a manipulative asshole and a fuck boi and demonize your traits. Strong and confident turns into macho and arrogant.

If you LJBF them then you're just a man boy that's not ready for a relationship with a real woman and whomever you're with is a stupid slut (no irony lost there).

Like @ColonelGray said they'll hit up IG. Post a tit pic, get validated. Hit up a past Chad get some dick in them

[–]mraees931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spot on. They act like us when we started the dating game at 12 y/o

[–]zboo1h11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

About a year ago when I decided to stop having casual sex I let some women know this. I let them know that we could still hang out just without the sex. 100% of them got mad at me and most of them blocked me. Women can't handle rejection, even soft rejection like that.

[–]theunconquored8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This (like everything else) depends on how she perceives your value compared to hers.

  1. If she sees your value as lower than hers, she'll either be relieved, or disgusted. Relieved, because she doesn't think you're pursuing her and that she won't have to do any work to keep you as an orbiter since you've already subjected yourself to it. She's also disgusted, because you are so weak and willing to give up even trying to pursue her. She'll only show it if you don't appear to have the resources, or the potential to accumulate resources, that will be expected of you as her good little billy beta. This girl doesn't really care at all if you ghost her. She forgets about you every time you're not forcing yourself into her consciousness anyway.
  2. If she sees your value as equal to hers, you've likely lost a chance that you might have had. She'll likely agree, because just saying something like "LJBF" makes you look like a weak pussy, which you are. You are then relegated to being seen as low value, and you can see #1 above. Ghosting her would be better than LJBFing her, because you wouldn't lose the value in her eyes. She may come chasing after you, and fall right into your frame.
  3. If she sees your value as higher than hers, congratulations. You've just learned how to make an alpha widow. She has been trying to earn your attention and commitment and you've just shot her down. Depending on the woman and her level of confidence and sense of self worth, her reactions may range from being dejected and depressed to rage to massive shit tests to try to get you to show weakness. Every time you continue to reject her attempts to draw you in, you AW her even harder.

For young guys or unplugging guys, LJBF Game is a great test of your abundance mindset and of your actual SMV. Risk burning a couple of potential plates by telling them you just want to be friends. Her reaction will tell you where you stand, both with her, and in your own SMV.

If you're afraid to do this, you don't have abundance yet. You're still thinking that "this one is different".

If you do this and the women all agree or ghost you, your value isn't high enough yet. Get to the gym, work on your mental game, keep reading from the sidebar, and keep practicing.

If she kicks your door down because she needs your cum down her throat, well Sir, enjoy the fruits of your labor.

[–]Hugedyke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well put, Sir

[–]Poopybuttholeman18 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, tbh, some can take it, some can’t.

Most will try to still hook up with you.

It also depends how you do it. If you basically say to them, hey, I really value our friendship - but I also find you attractive, but I think hooking up would jeopardise this... and I don’t want that... then you’re still providing validation, and a motive behind your actions.

That is the best way to actually remain friends if that is your desire.

If you are just using it as a tactic, say something along the lines of

“you are so nice and always amazing to hang out with, but you are so different from my normal physical type”

Or, haha bro, I just don’t see you in that way - but you are a great friend!

They know what that means, and that will drive them nuts.

[–]Pete_Worst15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Complete insanity...like showing up to my job unannounced and causing a scene type shit.

[–]lildaley622 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re joking

[–]fapfapfapnot2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dayum! could you elaborate further and offer advice to us bros in here on how to deal if shit hits the fan just like this one?

[–]Pete_Worst10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It was many years back when I worked retail so it wasn't a professional environment or anything. She would even parade other guys through there and hook up right in front of me. I just ignored it and felt extremely embarrassed for her and the guys. She had extreme oneitis

[–]fapfapfapnot3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for going into details. I assumed much worst, I thought she showed up at your office or something and created a scene infront of the managers and co-workers saying out loud that you abused or assaulted her etc, my bad.

[–]Domebeers6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't take the hint and keep trying to fuck you

[–]Ovnidos35 points36 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Really bad, her friend kinda harass me until i block them on any social media, and an other one drunk text me every month saying to me that i was ugly ahaha. But i keep her unblocked to dread my actual GF

[–]IATAsshole8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Respek my man, that's a smart move. In an ltr and this is a great idea.

A pretty hot girl I had a thing with years ago but fucked her friend and ditched her still sends flirty snaps once every blue moon while out drinking. Been hiding it from my gf but might just up the dread a tiny bit opening some in front of her. No harm done I never reply.

This was also like 6 years ago LOL. Some girls..

[–]Ovnidos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes I take kind a little pleasure to next those, because nobody ever say no to them.

[–]Pimpcool42031 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course they get it, they use it constantly and most know exactly what it means. It's a sudden surprise to them that they don't have complete power over you with their sexuality.

LJBF'd with a meme (the "I lied, there's no sex" memes are funny).

She laughed on April 11th, then on April 16th she colored her hair pink, then she didn't invite me to her birthday on the 18th (which she'd told me about a million times; I LJBF'd because she was messaging me way too much).

[–]Yur4758 points59 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

What does LJBF mean?

[–]oooKenshiooo41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's just be friends

[–]Greaterbird6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't believe I just got friendzoned on trp

[–]Vofz[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's just be friends.

[–]merunas57 points58 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it's fucking annoying these random posts with these weird terms. Was it worth it the mass confusion just to not type those 10 extra characters?

[–]allenselmo43 points44 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well at least it encourages reading the most basic of the Red Pill literature. LTR, LDR, LJBF etc are very common phrases to hear/read when you've been unplugged for more than a minute

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trying reading the sidebar and The Rational Male, the community you are currently in won’t be such a mystery to you

[–]Cyberg0re10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LJBF

Takes two seconds. Learn how to use the internet.

[–]GonadGravy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s what’s so annoying - these guys will ask what it is and complain for good measure but can’t use “the google” and get an answer in seconds.

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not knowing what it means kinda just indicates you haven't read the books/posts that were the origin of this sub.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

22 up votes for this shit? Clearly you haven’t read much stuff like what’s on the sidebar or basic red pill literature.

LJBF is a common obvious term only a internet noob wouldn’t know n

[–]johncillo-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sidebar

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And the cunts get mad at you for forgetting what it means even if you’ve read the sidebar thousands of time.

Yeah I forgot what it means cuz I’m not constantly sucking red pill dick I’m actually apply it. No need to get so torqued up cuz I forgot.

Bunch of nerds.

[–]Ivabighairy1-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It means you don’t fuck her

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

live journal*

[–]AbusiveFather14 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They might let the hamster rationalize it to them that you weren't worth it to begin with.

[–]Kabuki4315 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What? LJBF is the perfect way to bring down their guard. If you are getting LJBF from women they see you as thirsty and desperate. I use it for my advantage always. Try this

"Hey I am definitely not looking for anything serious, let's just be friends first and go from there. We can always have fun and do whatever we want as adults"

[–]Livecrazyjoe10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've had girls show up at my work. Or at my house at 6am. Had the last one a couple of times with different women. They blow up my phone. Had one threaten to call my work and get me fired. The list goes on and on.

Usually I'll give one warning that they better start acting right or else it's over. I keep to my word and shock the shit out of them when I drop them.

They are so used to dumping men and using it as a power play. So when it happens to them without such play they freak out in my opinion.

[–]sullenday11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol they don't like it at all.

[–]TheRedApprentice3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you LJBF'd a girl?

Rarely but, yes, it's happened a couple of times.

How she reacted?

The first one took it well. Zero problems. The second one was noticeably hurt, and I think a little shocked. HB8's aren't used to getting LJBF'd so I think this was a new experience for her.

Do they even give a fuck about it like we do?

Some of them do. Some of them don't. The first one was on to the next within weeks. The second one went on a boo-hooey attention-seeking social media spree that is still ongoing but has since tapered down.

What do yall think it's worse for them: getting LJBF'd or getting ghosted?

I would say, for them, LJBF is worse. Ghosting is easier for them to justify in a way that makes them appear to not be the problem.

[–]Greaterbird3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She took it badly, blocked me, and started an onlyfans. C'est la vie.

[–]Filmguy0003 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. She tried to hit me up for a couple days after. Then a month later she was engaged.

[–]leopardinstinct7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have, they don’t take rejection well.

[–]mysteryspoN4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep - they take it horrible and try to force on the opposite lol.

[–]Corvus_Uraneus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not since grade school. I have rejected a co-worker though, told her I don't shit where I eat. Which is mostly true, but she was an overweight single mother so I wasn't going to make an exception for her. Had to have our supervisor in a meeting tell her to keep it professional with me. Went well for about a month until she began making up lies about me, then created a hostile work environment. Almost got me fired. But she got fired herself for fraud on her timesheets.

[–]spartan_samurai2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls don't like if you LJBF'd them.

Some girls ghost and some send pics with some guy to make you feel guilty for rejecting them.

[–]128bitworm2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is the usual period of disbelief (r u gay?!) > denial (can't believe u r not gay...u gotta be though) > anger (wtf is wrong with u?!) > unwilling acceptance > then, finally...avoidance!!! Return of peace and solitude!!

[–]Killjoys134 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They do, but that's very short lived. I mean after that they just want to fuck anything erect and let the world know how much abundant she is. But as you know there are always some guys drooling for this opportunity, they get one to get inside them almost instantly. The news of her looking for validation spreads like wildfire and this is when the 'nice guy friends' cme in handy coz they are the first to tell that 'she deserves much better' and cringey shit like that and then she decides to surprise them with their pus.

[–]Noodlesoupe23 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting ghosted is worse because it makes her hamster spin harder

[–]muricanwerewolf11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did it to a friend with benefits that started wanting more of my time than I was willing to give. She called me gay. Very funny stuff. She did apologize after.

[–]FromTheCaveIntoLight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did that to a hot 30’s plate I had a while back but she was getting wayyy to attached and non stop texting. One day I just texted her we should just be friends.

Her response was priceless: “ummm... so do I delete your number? No one ever rejected me like that before.”

I told her do what you want with my number. She threw a couple more texts at me to try and flip the situation and asking what she did to make me not want her. At that moment I realized just how little girls actually get rejected and how true trp is.

I’m sure she got onto a dating app and had her full hole filled the next day but I know for at least a couple hours, her brain was rattled.

[–]Don_Draper270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of the time they’ll just ghost you. Their hamster might spin for a day or 2 but remember that women are the ones that like to be chased and they have an abundance of options so they’ll hop on the CC real quick.

[–]Lalocal4life0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I stopped years ago. I have yet to meet a woman that takes rejection well. You MUST make them feel like it has nothing to do with them or they remain on a lifelong path to ruin your future relationships. I own a business, I always blame work for my lack of free time.

[–]PinacoladaSauce0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah a couple times a year. Never had anything bad happen. Usually they just try to get me to fuck them using their methods, whether that’s being super slutty, super needy, giving me lots of attention, trying to game me and show themselves with other guys, or all kinds of shit. There’s only one girl where we are genuinely just friends and I highly value that relationship.

I think this community is way too negative on having girls as friends because it’s super rare, but it’s worth it. She totally understands me emotionally and will give me straight truth or support, depending on what I need. I always listen to her advice and we value each other as people.

That said I recognize this is an extremely rare situation, and i’m pretty sure it started because our relationship was originally professional. She’s also a bit older than me and in a committed relationship but yeah. If you can find a girl who is a genuinely good friend... then do

[–]Walleyed_Jones0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I LJBFd a girl I tried to be attracted to (lol) and she occasionally messages me but I dont think our friendship is in tact still

[–]Maximedius0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

LJBF?

[–]trp282871 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Let’s just be friends

[–]Maximedius1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the explanation!

[–]trp282871 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What explanation? I asked you to be friends with me

(Just kidding)

[–]Snowboard180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I have, they basically become orbiters to you. Sometimes ill hit one of them up if all my plates are busy lol.

[–]brasilgringo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

in Brazil, in my experience, they get extremely angry and sort of lose their shit on Whatsapp if you try to ghost them .... prepare to be stalked on all social media and do blocking.

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