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[–]Budfox_9275 points76 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Unless you're high status tinder is not worth it for the average Joe.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave58 points59 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even sure you can communicate status on there. I mean, you could be a world-famous movie star but if a girl hasn't seen any of your movies and doesn't recognize you, she's just going to swipe on to the next person.

It's more just raw looks. So lift, get a manly physique, get a stylish haircut and an outfit that accentuates your build, and if you want to, go ahead and try tinder. But yeah, it's probably a waste of time if you don't stand out.

Even then, don't necessarily despair. Game goes a long way in the real world, and a lot of guys are awkward, inept, or lazy. The competition isn't as bad as it seems.

[–]HorvathRed23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Indeed. If you reach a point in looks where you'd do any good consistently in Tinder, trust me, you'll clean up in real life if you want to. Just need to mitigate the Asperger's by approaching girls often and going on many dates, it will all become a lot more natural and easier, and your confidence will shoot up.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

if you reach a point in looks where you'd do any good consistently in Tinder, trust me, you'll clean up in real life if you want to.

"Okay. So I've been working out for at least 2 weeks now. A couple times a week, but last week I skipped. When I see a pretty girl I stare at her from a distance and then blush and avert my eyes when she looks back. I haven't had any dates yet. Do I need a fancy watch?"

-average male from reddit

Simply approaching yields results because so many men today are clueless. The competition for day game is almost nonexistent.

[–]HorvathRed5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. I have really good looking and fit, fashionable, groomed and tall friends who are ultimately timid to simply approach women and never do it, only very rarely in clubs IF they get very heavy IOIs. There's this guy I keep telling to just approach cute girls at least a little bit but he just won't do it. Then when he does hook up with in a club after she makes it way too obvious the girl is basically throwing him into the wall while heavily making out and feeling him all over lmao. Even this doesn't give him the "confidence".

Moral of the story, even the most "alpha" looking guys are very often timid and aren't competition a lot of the time. Because a girl will only glance and smile at you so many times, and if another decent looking guy has the balls to approach her first and has good game, there goes your shot. So just try it.

[–]no_keeptalking1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, assburgers...

[–]Ibannedbypowerabuse1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What if I'm balding 😭

[–]KeeperOfSpirit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Grow a mustache and match barely legal teens.

[–]TheGreatConst1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even sure you can communicate status on there.

You actually can. There are even studies about it.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275761707_Manipulated_luxury-apartment_ownership_enhances_opposite-sex_attraction_in_females_but_not_males

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19302732/

Getting matches on Tinder isn't only about your appearance - it is more about the "image" of you as a high-status cool guy, your average value. If you are 10/10 in looks, but your photos suck, then you wouldn't get as much success as 7/10 guy with a perfect profile.

[–]MoDuReddit2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

apartment_ownership_enhances_opposite-sex_attraction_in_females_but_not_males

Ah, so that's why she got moist when I mentionted I just got my own house. I just prattling along because I wasn't a fan of having roomies.

[–]sniffin_fingers11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It’s funny, sometimes I have better photos and give it a whirl and get great results. I’ve fucked a lot of chicks from tinder, but it required monumental effort and text game. I’d agree that it’s simply not worth the time.

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[–]sniffin_fingers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Somewhat. That time which would be much better spent working towards my mission. If all you’re interested in is pussy, sure.

[–]dopexile0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Time which would be much better spent chasing real women in the real world.

Probably also not worth the time 🤣

[–]Kondijote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless you’re good looking.

FTFY

[–]McBlakey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Disagree.

[–]1GalcomMadwell1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have gotten many dates, hookups, a few short term relationships, and two LTRs from Tinder and I would not say Im particularly high status. Average corporate job and decent looks with a skinny fat bod.

My best results have come from taking a genuine interest in the other person and building a bit of rapport before asking for the date.

[–]1empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tinder now isn’t what it used to be

[–]asdf333aza0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Old tinder when it first came out was fire. Straight hook ups. Then all these folks invaded it looking for love and crap. People want to chit chat on there for months before even going out.

[–]when_its_too_late26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why I don't bother with social media or dating apps. Keep yourself a mystery, approach face to face, let them figure it out by putting in physical effort.

[–]PlainTundra4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This works best in places such public transport, for instance. If you know how to make eye contact and smirk, you can even hear the hamster spinning like a washing machine in spin cycle.

[–]Rakanidjou11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I did not expect her to get so many good results... I mean 25 match the second day...

When I was using it I had maybe 2/3 match a day max.

[–]Kromohawk928 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It can really depend on your pictures and who you swipe right on. With mediocre to bad pictures I got 20 matches the first day but I was also swiping right on everyone. In the video she says that she wasn't being picky and was just swiping right and that most women who swiped right were older or not pretty.

[–]1GalcomMadwell0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends a lot on where you live. I had better results in the PNW because I guess I appeal more to the liberal / hipster type women with my art background and way I dress.

I had a tougher time in Arkansas because I didnt have that southern good-old-boy vibe that does well down there. (Plus a lot more fatties in Arkansas that I auto swipe left on.) Ironically, the girls I did best with in Arkansas had also come from the West coast.

[–]diejager15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What I found interesting was the bio: "looking for a nice lady to develop a meaningful relationship and enjoy the pleasures of life". What kind of bio is this? "Develop a meaningful relationship"? Fuck no

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's typical female cognitive dissonance, it's the difference between what they think they want and what they actually respond to.

She thinks women(including herself) want a meaningful relationship, so they'll respond to a guy offering that. The reality is they overlook that and respond to the witty, good looking guy who's got game and abundance.

Not even they know how their biological triggers work, which is why it's always useless listening to women on how to get women.

[–]Domebeers6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

is there a quick summary for people who don't have 15 minutes to watch this

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who is taking money?

[–]Im_smarter5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nowhere in the video did she say "men have it easy on tinder"

[–]btrpb20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This guy, I've seen a couple of his videos.

Young bucks around here, here's some advice: the guy has a fucking shit haircut and the dress sense of a 17 year old struggling to shake off his kidulthood.

You wanna be a man, sort your grooming.

[–]1GalcomMadwell13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He has a pretty monotone milquetoast vibe imo. He seems like someone who would be a great asset in a study group, but you wouldn't party with him on the weekend.

[–]Indumentum973 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He still has some knowledge though and gives good advice. He’s young, so?

[–]HornedBul3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think he has any interest in giving the "alpha male" vibe in his channel. What you said is true, but that doesn't mean this is how he carries himself in other aspects of his life.

Maybe it is. I don't know, I don't really care.

[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

/u/drbrockstar69 beat you to the punch by that much.

[–]mhandanna4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This goes onto a wider point of media bias leading women to believe they are disadvantaged in all areas, when infact very often the exact opposite is true. In this case the dating game.

Another fantastic example is education - something that many women feel and men assume women are disadvantged when in fact the studies and data show the exact opposite to the point where girls in all contries in the entired OECD are systematicaly been giving better marks for IDENTICAL work to boys. Boys grades go up by an entire grade simply by writing a female name. In reading tests boys marks go up 1/3rd of a grade if the teacher doesn't know the student is a boy. And much more:

These are very suprising figures:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/ght5dj/teachers_mark_girls_higher_for_identical_work_to/

[–]xfiles_tr8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I would have swiped left the tester lady.

[–]Vynxe-Vainglory2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Definitely. She’s like a 5 and she still was blown away by the lack of attention that a slightly above average looking guy got.

I’d like to see an actual hot chick try this.

[–]dopexile2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That 5 still probably has thousands of thirsty guys lining up on dating apps.

[–]KetogenicKraig2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OFC she didn’t get any responses with “hi, how are you?”

I consider myself pretty above average (definitely more attractive than this guy) and I still have to use some real shotgun ice-breakers to even get a response.

Girl doesn’t know how to game girls. Surprise, surprise.

[–]RealJoeDee1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]3Yakatonker1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A good example of how videos should be introduced into this forum, with notes and breakdowns as was done by u/drbrockstar69. Also thank you for the link.

Now this experiment has been done multiple times, and the results are not shocking to any person who understands hypergamy. Alexander Grace, the creator of the video, is more of a purple pill youtuber. He says some questionable things on his content (E.g, some men need a strong balance of feminine tendencies, chads who fuck a lot of women aren't really fucking quality women... like they give a fuck). But regardless, this video had some solid points that I'm glad is getting some screen time.

  1. Don't ever ask a woman for advice on how to get with women: Now anyone who used tinder will know that nothing dries panties up more than an opener of "hey, how are you?" This woman not only used that opener for each match, but her bio had city, occupation, and "looking for a quality relationship" - listen to this woman on all things NOT to do when making a profile. Side note, she asked at the beginning if AG had any shirtless pics she could use pretending to be him. These women will push academics and intellect but even she knew from the beginning she wanted to the stallion to catch the eye. (Continued in the link above)

Solid stuff.

[–]Yowzoow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she looks 32 lmao

[–]1jojojijo3333 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how this youtuber brings together commiserating betas and makes them pay him for it.

By the way she feels sorry for you and is empathetic to you. Now she really want to fuck you.

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure if you only pick the top 2 percent and then complain about the male 9 not replying, yes those guys have it easier.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her accent is brutal.

[–]chadtwashington0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol no one wants an 18yo male on a dating app.

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[–]Domebeers12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

the eternal woman. Imagine complaining that youre meeting 'fuckboys', whatever that means, on TINDER.

[–]metryingtobe0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Fuckboy=[Eng] guy who wants to fuck you so he can add your pussy to his trophies, not relationship material.

[–]lilennui11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you look for 'relationship material' on a hook-up site? Also, the dude you meet in real life at a party/social gathering wants to fuck you all the same... It's the same dude, except that is his internet dating profile... Even fucking geeks playing dungeons and dragons in their basement want to fuck you before anything else...

Having the ability to trust someone is basically linked to SMV, not being a fuckboy. All dudes are fuckboys, but it's harder to trust Chad who has the ability to pipe down hoes left, right, center with a snap of his finger than it is trusting some GEEK that has never seen pussy in his life.

The main difference is the dating pool. Women have Chads and GEEKS both available if they play their cards right, now the onus is on them to separate the wheat from the chaff and pick someone in accordance to their own SMV (but they fail to judge this spectacularly).

80% of dudes don't even have a dating pool. They are invisible. The dating pool of these dudes is overweight annoying single moms devoid of personality with BPD and other underlying mental illnesses and useless degrees/debt expecting to be treated like princesses.

[–]TheProfitMotive4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Stop pretending your looking for a boyfriend on tinder lmao

Gtfoh

[–]TheGreatConst0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Let me open your eyes a little bit. Men who have decent success with women can have rather low standards for sex and high standards for relationships. So if a guy interested only in sex with you and nothing more, then maybe it isn't he is a "fuckboy", but you who don't meet his standards for relationships. And if a woman always meets those guys who aren't interested in anything other than her body, then it is almost certain that she just has nothing else to offer. Then again, desperate guys would want a relationship even with a girl who has nothing to offer other than sex.

[–]metryingtobe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So all guys wanna be in a loving relationship with a decent woman with high standards? Awwww so lovely 💕💕💕

[–]diejager1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No one should trust someone by the looks. That's kinda a basic life stuff. Here in Brazil we have a popular saying that goes like this: "Someone that sees the face, does not see the heart". It doesn't matter if someone is pretty or ugly if he/she is a terrible person.

[–]SPACECAT2230 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You’re breaking rule 10. Don’t announce you’re a woman. Sure you can face the same issues as a woman with other women, but still don’t announce it.

Doesn’t make a difference or do any good.

People are already upset about the dating world as it is (and rightfully so).

[–]TheProfitMotive-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, what the fuck are you doing here?

Arent you supposed to be on Two X Chromosones lol

[–]alekhineX-2 points-1 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

she went from a 9 with make up. to a 3 without.

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[–]Socawo17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Jesus christ that's a 9 to you?

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

She was like a 4 with make-up and a 6, maybe 6.5, without, so definitely not a 9

[–]MoDuReddit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

maybe 6.5, without

Thank you. Can't remember when painting yourself like a clown became "the attractive choice".

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Till she opened her mouth. Jesus, the English language being massacred right in front of my ears.

[–]Domebeers3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

use the 1 - 30 scale it has more nuance

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[–]hockeyaddict87-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The best way to get girls today is through Instagram if you have a well set up account

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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