‘No means no’ and sexual assault

FirstName_LastName4 · 2020-06-30T13:16:49+00:00

What i do, is when there is the slightest clue of possible discomfort, i stop or say "do you want me to stop"

The best example i had was this girl i knew off of tinder, took me to her place, we were making out and i started going to finger her and She says "what are you doing" so i just stopped and Said "do you want me to stop?" And She told me to keep going.

Tried to fuck but she resistes, so we didnt (maybe if i had insisted i could have, but its too risky). Ended up getting the best BJ of my life

Terdmuffin · 2020-06-30T12:41:59+00:00

You really just need to get experience. Think of it like a traffic light. Green lights mean go and red lights mean stop...everyone knows that. But it takes some experience to know when a yellow light means hit the gas to get through or hit the brakes before it turns red.

ay-fuh-q · 2020-06-30T13:01:13+00:00

I knew one girl who was practical about sex. She said, "No doesn't always mean no. Sometimes it just means 'not right now.'"

She wasn't a feminist beast like so many today.

Western-Molasses · 2020-06-30T16:01:52+00:00

Why is this even a debate here?

If a girl tells you “no”, “not sure”, and then you whip your dick out slap it on her face, then that’s sexual assault.

Even if she’s saying no as a means to shit test you, passing that shit test means maybe going out on another date, maybe it’s too early om the date and she still wants to converse and have another glass.

Not bragging, but I’ve slept with around 30 women so far and never heard something along the lines of “no” before sex, because when it did, sex didn’t happen.

Just move on

telploit25 · 2020-06-30T14:02:15+00:00

Dude. Read her body language and facial expression. I swear half the problems on this sub are simply men being unable to read the situation. That’s why you chase after uninterested women or end up with rape charges. One thing the feminists got right is to check for enthusiastic consent. Why would you want to ask for the number of or fuck someone who’s not 100% into it. You can always tell where you stand with a girl. Her being too quiet, giving one word answers etc is not a good sign. Ask if you have to. It doesn’t make you a pussy or beta . Some girls also freeze up from past trauma so read her facial expression, body language etc. Don’t have sex with drunk chicks unless that was part of the part from the beginning. Follow all that and you should be fine.

MotorsportEnthusiast · 2020-06-30T12:48:13+00:00

It’s always best to get the after-text after sex. Message them saying had a good time, and you look forward to meeting again soon. Get their response to it. Least you can do.

maxofreddit · 2020-06-30T16:28:03+00:00

Let the girl put your penis in side her vagina.

As in, you're both naked, about to fuck, you stop and let her grab your penis and put it inside her. Rub the head around her labia on clit for a bit, tease her with it until she does it herself. Less fun, sure, but it makes sure that you both know what's going to happen, especially on the first time. If she won't do it, then next.

And always wear a condom. Always.

Edit: And all those things mean no in your linked pic. If a girl isn't taking your clothes off for you, you have work to do.

IXseed · 2020-06-30T16:45:37+00:00

Idk how many girls you're messing with rn but these phrases are pretty much clear no's. They should't be confusing you. It should be a happy yes. The thing is too many dudes operate in this "sex by any means necessary" shit that gets them caught up. If you're pressing up on a chick and she's not feeling it, back off.

adool666 · 2020-06-30T15:28:10+00:00

It really depends on the situation. For a Tinder date, if you get a 'no' the first time, I try again after 20 minutes. If there is a second no, I stop.

dogfood666 · 2020-06-30T19:41:25+00:00

rules for life:

dont eat yellow snow
dont have sex with people who dont want to have sex with you

DerekMorganBAU · 2020-06-30T14:01:30+00:00

Know when you're playing cat and mouse and when it's a genuine shut down. Some bitches like to feel "taken", some might need a little revving up, etc. Just calibrate. Simple.

319Skew · 2020-06-30T15:24:56+00:00

In today's culture a woman can have sex with you on Monday. See you with a woman on Tuesday. Have sex with you again on Wednesday and bring up exclusivity. Get dumped on Thursday and claim rape on Sunday because you took advantage of her with the pretence of being a couple.

God help you if you both were drinking or she likes it rough because you are automatically guilty until proven innocent.

There is no crime that I can think of that requires you to prove your innocence first and is grounded on emotion and anecdotal evidence.

You were too rough but she didn't say anything? Congratulations. You're now a sex offender since "silence isn't consent". She reports it 10 years after it took place? Doesn't matter.

The narrative if practiced to the feminists requirement would be two (or more) people who identify as whatever gender or sex they want, sit down and fill out a form regarding what would be done, an impartial judge would watch to ensure no deviation, and the whole thing would be monitored by medical apparatus to ensure adequate dopamine release. Afterwards a copy of the sex report would be stored to review by another party who must identify as a woman.

2020-06-30T19:32:07+00:00

If there is discomfort, clear that beforehand. I have had girls that were showing signs of "not being sure" and I'd ask them if they are fine. If they give explanations etc. I just tell them "No reason to justify anything - No means no". And then go back to whatever we did before.

Keep in mind I don't mean simple LMR, but clear signs of "I don't really want to do this right now"

Protocol_Apollo · 2020-06-30T15:11:31+00:00

Liberals have over complicated consent because liberals are dumb. They treat it like you need a written contract or be constantly asking “may I do this, can I proceed and do this?”

Sex is meant to be spontaneous, emotional and primal not something logical, pre-ordained and sequential

Consent is very basic and comes naturally to people who actually have sex.They know what’s sexual assault, what’s not and everything in between.

Consent isn’t always verbal, non verbal cues are a huge part of it. These cues are picked up naturally and are too clunky to be fully explained by text or words.

If consent was purely verbal like non sex having liberals think, then literally all animals would be rapists.

mgtowthroww · 2020-06-30T13:20:25+00:00

Start recording on your phone before you have sex. And save it on a google drive so when she does accuse you of rape you have the recording where she never said no.

Sigma1Enigma · 2020-06-30T17:44:22+00:00

About LMR in this era?

Don't use male logic on female actions.

Comfort tests, emotions, feels w/e

Be suave patient and non thirsty.

violetmonstermunch · 2020-06-30T18:43:04+00:00

I don't know about you but everytime my last gf said no to me, she wanted me to continue. She was just aroused by the fact that I was taking her and overcoming her resistance.

NightwingTRP · 2020-06-30T20:36:49+00:00

I feel like there’s no line between sexual assault and casual sex anymore, and it completely undermines the integrity of genuine rape/sexual assault.

Obviously. But don't say that too loud or the feminists might come for you spouting such heresy to their religion.

Bear in mind the difficulty. Make sure to get texts after the night saying she had a good time. If she doesn't text back with that or says something that might be used to prove rape against you, respond as she was giving you an enthusiastic yes and that her weird behaviour and changing history is concerning to you.

Protect yourself at all times gents. Don't forget to wrap it!

silvereddi · 2020-07-01T02:35:41+00:00

Did this sub got flooded with incels and feminists since their subs got banned or why are here suddenly tons of shit advice with tons of likes? Holy fuck. Just read into LMR and how to seduce her. Most women WILL say kinds of No to you - this is in fact her ASD and LMR kicking in, because either your frame was a bit too weak or because she is socially trained to behave like that. In this case, read the signals, stop every now and then when she resists and keep going. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. It baffles me reading here every second guy telling you that this is rape. What rape?! Rape‘s when he is putting her dick inside her while she’s screaming and repeatedly saying no and stop to you. There is obviously a line between LMR and the possibility of rape, but it’s still very obvious. I fucked some girls that were all like „no stop“. „I don’t want it now, it’s the first date“. „I don’t know you“ „what are you doing??“ „no we can’t..“ Blabla. And then you slow down or stop, and after a short time keep pushing and the rest comes with itself. And if she keeps resisting too often THEN you can stop and get the fuck out, because she is either playing way too hard to get or is serious about not wanting sex with you. My god these comments here ...

mrbill1234 · 2020-06-30T13:33:07+00:00

If you are male, you are vulnerable. Even if it was consensual at the time, she could change her story later.

MGTOW_BEASTMODE · 2020-06-30T13:59:46+00:00

Just have good text game so after you bang you text "Last night was great, again?" to get that sweet sweet "yes.. good times.. see you soon"

lazlounderhill · 2020-06-30T18:00:22+00:00

It's a risk, and the stakes are potentially life altering (ruining) - because false accusations do occur, and evil - sociopathic - women do exist, and they are far more common than anyone here wants to think about - or admit. Anyone who tells you otherwise is whistling past the graveyard.

Ultimately it's a matter of your individual tolerance for risk. If you find yourself at the mercy of a genuine female sociopath with the criminal justice system the way it is - there's nothing TRP can do for you. All I can say is this - if you have the slightest misgiving, the tiniest voice in your head questioning the girl, or the situation, fucking get out of there post haste. That's my advice. The danger exists and it is real, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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skyrunner22 · 2020-06-30T17:46:36+00:00

You cant negotiate with terrorist. If you read any of the older feminist stuff you will see many of them regard ANY consensual sex with a man as rape. They basically trojan horse it slowly over time. Right now regret sex or change your mind after the fact sex has become rape.

Protect yourselves gentlemen, you get caught up in even a false allegation and nobody can save you. Nothing after the fact will help, prevention is only option. Keep logs, cameras, etc as best option.

Vulturo · 2020-06-30T15:55:21+00:00

Start ignoring propaganda. Apply RP and keep trucking.

PhantomanD · 2020-06-30T15:14:35+00:00

No can mean yes

Grandazer · 2020-06-30T14:51:10+00:00

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