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I found this post in our country's (Estonia) well known buy/sell forum of a guy who bought a deep fryer, used it for a day, liked it and then had to put it up for sale due to the "Mrs", as he keeps calling her, not liking it. He also added a "PS! Consult your own Mrs before making an offer" at the bottom of the sales post.

Link to the thread, use google translate or something on the page:https://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?t=782131

I've noticed a lot of posts on this particular forum from people saying that they would need to "consult with their Mrs" to purchase something if the particular object is meant for entertainment etc.

It's pitiful to see these people post these and be so proud of it at the same time. And almost all of the time they put their wives/girlfriends/whatever on a pedestal by calling them "Mrs" or something similar.

Why do you guys think these people feel the need to showcase to the world how much of a firm grip their partners have on their balls?


[–]laserdicks59 points60 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When you honestly believe you're worthless, it's an improvement to have someone care enough to tell you what to do.

Sad. But fucking common.

[–]i-am-the-prize18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yup, they never outgrew the 'love' from their mommy so now look for it in the approval/allowance of their woke chick telling them what is acceptable behavior.

[–]Joe_Doblow2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it’s more complex than not outgrowing love from mom. Some never got love from mom. Some have low self esteem. Depression. Phobias. neurotic, fucked up childhood, social anxious. They have this one piece of ass and sex becomes their serotonin/dopamine release drug and the chick is their dealer. They have one source to get the high from. So they get whipped.

If they had high self esteem they could have multiple options and not be whipped. Mgtow guys have all their independence and I wouldn’t say their lives are ideal and neither are whipped married guys’.

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s more complex than ...

agreed. what i should have written:

Yup, they never outgrew the need for 'love' from their mommy so now look for it in the approval/allowance of their woke chick telling them what is acceptable behavior.

it's the need factor that accounts for the other items you correctly list. and neediness is just about the least attractive trait in a male

[–]krusecontrol91124 points125 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Imagine having to live your one life on earth puppy dogging after someone who is going to tell you what you can and cannot enjoy or try or do or have, all because of dem tittyz and that fuzzy, albeit hypergamous, feeling called love

Men fall in love with her as a person and think that’s how women work too

Women fall in love with the man for what he can provide which is not sustainable in today’s tinder society and instant gratification/ghosting mindframe

Look up Stockholm syndrome

[–]djc_tech26 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That’s why you adapt the same mindset. I do, I now only match with women who will benefit me in some way. If it’s sex, just entertainment for the time being, a date for an event or someone to work out with. If you’re not going to be a positive addition I don’t have time

[–]Joe_Doblow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How can she not be a positive addition or beneficial to you?

[–]wtfdoiaskfor141 points42 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Devil's advocate: my girl is the one to rule on house stuff because she's the one using it. I ain't using no deep fryer, what the fuck. If she wants a different one, I'll be a gentleman, and sell the old one, buy her a new one, have her cook my dinner, eat it and enjoy it and then fuck her on the sofa.

I already do this with my girl. She picks the furniture (of course, I veto things because I ain't living in a pink barbie house), she picks the house stuff in general, and I just limit myself to veto-ing things I consider too stupid.

She's happy because she gets to have her own little corner of power, and I'm happy because fuck, I can't be bothered to think about ridiculous shit like what sofa cover color should we choose next or what fucking deep fryer brand we should buy. She enjoys doing this and I hate doing it, so it's a win-win.

Don't complain about female nature. Accept it, embrace it and make the best out of it. I'm sure the ladies aren't too happy about the dirty shit we leave around that they have to clean, but they shut up, clean it, and then bend over and beg you to fuck them and everything works out.

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[–]wtfdoiaskfor112 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But would you actually ask your girl for permission to buy something for yourself, such as a PlayStation or a squat rack?

Yeah that'd be fucking ridiculous. I don't think anybody here thinks otherwise :-)

That said, she is in her full right to drop you if you're stupid and can't handle money and are taking the family to financial bankrupcy

[–]DeLaine230 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm incredibly curious about your life in general now tbh

[–]wtfdoiaskfor11 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's nothing special. Women are submissive. Show some dominance and they'll love submitting to you. I think people around here have (1) never interacted with women IRL and (2) proceed to hate on them based on crazy ass feminist shits they see on the internet.

It's OK tho, they're mostly in the bitter stage and haven't found a way to capitalize on all this knowledge. Yet.

That said, girls are submissive by nature. I think I should write about non-feminist feminist girls.

They are all self-proclaimed feminists, but then beg you to choke them and own them in bed.

They are all self-proclaimed BLM supporters (with the instagram stories and all), but then they only suck on this white cock.

As always, TRP has this figured out for a long time, and it is:

Watch what they do, not what they say

It's a very hard thing to do (it took me at least a couple of years to properly unplug from my autistic mindset of taking words at face value), but it works.

[–]DeLaine230 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think all women are submissive by nature.

You see, I'm interested because what you describe seems... How to put this? It seems you've stumbled upon a lifestyle that works for you and your SO. I don't think it would work for everyone, and I don't think every woman nor every man could live or would want to live in the lifestyle. I'm wondering, what kind of person are you? Is this what I think it is, or you view this as the natural state of man in general (and thus are living it)?

It's hard to judge, as you seem to be edging towards one way, but then one of your statements leads me to believe another. My apologies if this is vague, but I don't want to influence your answers based on possible expectation!

Have time and inclination to answer some questions, by any chance?

[–]wtfdoiaskfor10 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't think all women are submissive by nature.

Well you're technically correct. The best kind of correct :)

In science, the term for submissiveness is agreeableness, which is a personality trait. As you can see, women tend to be more agreeable than men (who are more dominant), even though it is a distribution (and, as you point out, some women can be more dominant than a lot of men).

That said - this is a probability game and you're going to meet much less dominant women than submissive women.

I'm wondering, what kind of person are you? Is this what I think it is, or you view this as the natural state of man in general (and thus are living it)?

I think this is the natural state of a man, but as a wise man once said:

Women are born, men are made

You need someone (father, uncle, RP friends, TRP subreddit, Pook, whoever) to show you how to be a leader for a girl.

She does NOT want you to ask her where you are having dinner. She wants you to take responsibility and take her to wherever. She'll eat it, don't worry.

She does NOT want to collaborate in a couple dance with you, she just wants you to spin her and push and pull her around, so that she can move her butt in a sexy way.

She does NOT want to take responsibility and make a decision. Girls HATE decisions. Make a girl feel like you're the one making decisions, and she will absolutely cherish you.

I used to be a young kid who didn't understand why would you do any of this. I used to ask myself:

But I should ask her where we want to go have dinner? She's a human, she deserves an opinion too!

But I was missing the point. Only when I started leading, not asking, I started liking the no-bullshit no-negotiations, I'd just pick a place and go, and she'd love having no responsibility. She wants to be taken places, not to decide which places.

I am not sure if this answers your questions. Is it clearer now?

[–]DeLaine230 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You sound like you'd be an excellent teacher in certain circles, but I think those same circles would applaud certain methods while disagreeing in general with some of your wider statements. I find it incredibly - ironic? Strangely coincidental? I'm not even sure the term I'd use here - that you've stumbled on/learned/understood certain elements of the discipline. Which really is just all the more intriguing.

I'd love to hear more, frankly, and to discuss with you a bit more. But I don't want to take up either too much of your time, nor the main thread of this post with things unrelated.

It is amazing how much of your philosophy seems in line in certain lifestyles. I wonder if you're a follower of any specific teachings or texts?

[–]wtfdoiaskfor11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd love to hear more

What do you want to hear?

I wonder if you're a follower of any specific teachings or texts?

Well, I like the book of Pook (sidebar material). But really, no amount of reading will ever teach you anything significant. You go out and have a relationship or two, a fuckbuddy or two, and it starts showing you how things work. I would have never believed half the stuff here if I didn't see it with my own eyes.

[–]halleluiaiaia9292177 points178 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I dont understand why red pill men complain about how blue pill men live. I am happy these things happen, I cherish them. It makes it so much easier for us to stand out of the crowd with women. Why does it trigger you so much?

Viva beta men!

[–]send_it_for_the_boys50 points51 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

David Goggins said it best there’s no easier time than now to be and stand out as a strong man because EVERYONE is weak now a days.

[–]AllocNeighley31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We resent what could have been "me". Just be grateful you opened your eyes. Some don't want to unplug. Don't be a savage and force them

[–]Unlikely_Composer21 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

This.

The decline is coming, and I’m going to enjoy it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's already here

[–]AgreeableHelicopter20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its treason then.

[–]mams17241 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I dont get this though. These beta men and femenists are making things worse for redpill men. Men's rights are taken as a joke, false rape accusations are flying left and right, men are losing jobs to women just because they have a pussy. We can't just "enjoy the decline". Its like saying "lets enjoy the decline" when/if China invades the US.

[–]Ontopsoon3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When everyone's super, no one will be.

[–]Unlikely_Composer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

SYYYYNNDRROOOMMMEEE

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s soo many more of us than “TRP” knows about, stay on top of your shit, strive to be a badass, let the weak do their thing and make fun of us it’s their life they can do as they please. and if/when those times come then they’ll know they fucked up and look to guys like us for help in fact something similar it’s kind of happening in these times people buying guns, learning how to defend themselves, working in their health more.

[–]Unlikely_Composer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As the decline gets worse, RP men will become more rare, and betas won’t be satisfying enough for women, so the value of an actual man will jump through the roof. Since there are no repercussions to cheating, and women generally only date upwards, the few men who work on themselves properly will have access to all the women. As women begin to shame men for having plates, alphas will become even rarer and will be valued even more. It’s one massive shit test. We’re going to revert back to a harem system.

With regards to feminism and the dangers posed to men- yes, many men will get hurt over the coming years and things will get much worse for us, but true men will always find a way to come out on top. We’ve done it for the last 200,000 years. Make sure you’re one of those men.

[–]y0ussefhesham9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed bro. It's sad that these people live in their own fantasy thinking this is how to deal with women but it's only making it easier for us.

[–]theguytheguy10005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it pisses me off because some of those beta men are my friends and family who are being categorically mentally raped by their wives and girlfriends and all you wanna do is bitch slap him and tell him to grow a spine but you know that won't do shit.

it's not fun watching people close to you suffer.... surprisingly

[–]cuztrp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking A

[–]z2a1-91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao very true, viva!

[–]IterMercator2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like that joke about loving gay men since it means less competition for straight men

[–]superjerk9917 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Once you eat the red pill all old behavior is literally gross and disgusting. How did we ever live this way

[–]OPs_Real_Mom7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I know right, as much as I like to cringe at my old behaviours it bothers me more imagining what I would have become if I never found TRP

[–]thesoloronin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know. I would’ve offed myself back at 11:39pm, on the 14th of October 2018 if it wasn’t for TRP.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I used to want a gf because I want someone to 'love me' and I don't want to be 'alone.' The typical beta bluepill disney fantasy stuff. Now that I've swallowed the pill, I am now cringing. I mean, why the hell did I even want that? I realized that I am better off alone spinning plates. I used to be happy and congratulate my friends when they have a gf, but now I pity them. I've seen the red pill in action with my own eyes in their relationships. Heck, I can't even stand romcoms anymore lol. I'm so glad I found TRP at a young age.

[–]southflsup0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha I can’t stand watching blue pill movies / shows anymore either. It pisses me off seeing all the brain washing going on making so many of our brothers feminized and beta

[–]KingKoCFC14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical simp behaviour, cool if you wanna live like that but you'll probably live to regret it down the line.

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[–]WYS888811 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It’s the accelerated feminization of society. Do a google search for femdom and sissyfication. It’s way more than a kink or trend. There‘s a wave of emasculation of epic proportions coming towards society. It won’t talk long, and the balls of our male youth will just fall off...it is truly frightening.

[–]bigtoeneedhelp12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Being an feminine man takes less energy than being masculine. Masculinity is an endless daily battle of imposing your will on the world around you. Being feminine means submitting to the world around you. If society tells you it's ok to put in less energy into your own existence then I'm sure alot of guys welcome it without realising how much they are sacrificing.

[–]Anonymous2k180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It makes it more difficult because masculinity is looked down upon, and everything is anti masculinity at this point, the decline has beyond begun..

[–]hmsthinkingmeat8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's nothing. I've just read a post on the surviving infidelity reddit where a guy agreed to let his "sweet and caring" wife go meet a co worker for sex, he tried to put boundaries in place (WTF kind of boundaries he thought he could impose when he's letting his wife get boned by someone else, I can't even begin to imagine), she got him to take photos of her so she could send them to Chad just before she went to bone him, Chad got his friend around and she did both of them, husband starts blubbing and he then wonders why she has no respect for him and laughs at him.

There are some real dufus's out there.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A good work friend of mine, whom could be a movie star with his looks not to mention he’s jacked, pretty manly and confident in everything until he picks up the phone for wifey to tell him she had a bad dream and he has to leave the gym to come home to her or else he’ll get in twubble.

[–]Anarchistguy_27 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen this trend recently as well, with headphones and home theatres. Selling them because the wives are none too pleased.

Yeah, it's pathetic, but unfortunately there's nothing you can do for them until it's much too late.

In the meantime, enjoy buying what they're selling at a very, VERY reasonable price.

[–]thesatellite2312 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What's hilarious is that I recently saw a viral social media thread with a ton of women complaining that they hate when men call them "the wife" or "the Mrs." It was under the pretense of those phrases being misogynistic. But much of the conversation morphed into being annoyed that those men cannot think for themselves.

[–]thesoloronin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perfectly aligned with what TRP teaches: Hold Frame, Never Lose Frame, and Be Your Own Mental Point of Origin.

[–]klotekind4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Its okay if that is how you wanna live, its not for me. But whatever floats yer boat right? But to add that you need to ask your own Mrs is kinda weird, like he thinks his way of life is the standard

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's convinced himself that it's normal in order to justify staying in his comfort zone and continue being a little beta bitch.

[–]elbow_ham4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The spouse excuse is a useful way to sell something shortly after buying it without disclosing "the item is shit and I hate it."

OP and others in this thread are retards for reading so much into this. You are not being micro-aggressioned on.

[–]Anabolic_Window147 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To each there own. If they want to live like that than by all means go for it. Most likely will make you miserable down the line. Let me consult my “mrs” before posting this comment on reddit LOL

[–]MisterRoid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys like that are proud of having girlfriends and base much of their self-worth on it. So it's not so much bragging about being told what to do, but rather showcasing that he has a GF and is not one of them loser incels.

[–]macheagle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have long coined a term for this. I called it "beta bragging". Absolute cuckery.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Men" who refer to the "old ball and chain" deserve all the misery they get.

[–]MonsterZed30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or man who has ever said the words “happy wife happy life”

[–]LateralThinker131 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Stockholm syndrome. They love their captors.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao

[–]LateralThinker130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You laugh but I'm actually fairly serious. "MY mistress loves me more, she gives me the best beatings! Yours hardly even reddens your backside."

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe it

[–]what-up-yo-yo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

These pussies who have to get their girl's (or wife's) permission first are a dime a dozen. It's amazing how many friends of mine deal with that regularly.

[–]benhurensohn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wooow, people in your country still use phpBB forums? Brings back good memories from the early internet.

I get you. We all want to see our fellow men find the truth, but we have to accept that's not possible. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink

[–]SScharnhorst0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

These are the kind of guys who like taking it up the pooper and like getting vasectomies for the comfort of the girlfriend. I've seen some TRP users with the same behavior.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh

[–]IterMercator0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like a joke tbh

[–]StoneHurk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Like those dudes who like to grab other dude's cocks in the locker room as a joke all the time but then end up coming out 10 years later? Dudes who constantly joke about gay usually end up coming out. Same case here, if they joke about being beta all the time it sounds they're just coping.

[–]catz1234560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same guys that are getting their "mrs" pounded by other guys as we speak and are clueless/don't care.

[–]IXseed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you care? How does worrying about what other guys are doing help you?

[–]dirsa11220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends how the payments in the household are done. If one pays more he/she makes the rules, if it's equal they need to come to a compromise.

[–]CeratedOlly0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s a joke, they don’t actually ask for permission, even if they do, again it’s a joke

[–]StoneHurk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Like those dudes who like to grab other dude's cocks in the locker room as a joke all the time but then end up coming out 10 years later? Dudes who constantly joke about gay usually end up coming out. Same case here, if they joke about being beta all the time it sounds they're just coping.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beta Simps gonna Beta Simps. Ignore and go about your business.

[–]cnwilks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've experienced the opposite of this. I was once having an IM conversation with a close friend's wife. We were firming up some plans, and she said something about having to clear it with Ryan. I made some joke about her being the boss, and not having to clear it with him, and she said that she deferred to him on all decisions, and was completely serious about it. It wasn't anything major, but I was kind of taken aback that she wasn't comfortable speaking for both of them on what would seemingly be a routine decision to most people.

To that same point, I spent 15 years as a teacher, and the two different superintendents that I worked for were men that were passive pushovers who took their cues from their respective "enforcers" (female principals who technically reported to them, but who everyone knew were calling the shots). The "enforcers" were both a couple of passive-aggressive twats that would often hide behind their unpopular decisions by claiming that they came directly from the superintendents, and generally turning them into "Wizards of Oz." I don't intend to sound misogynistic, but the idea of feminine empowerment seems to often be used as rationalization for a lot of gaslighting and passive-aggressive behavior. I've had some great female bosses that I respected deeply, but just as many who were two faced and spoke out of both sides of their mouth at all times.

But there are a lot of people who don't seem to mind being pushed around, and they find plenty of people willing to do so. Successful relationships are all about picking the right battles, but some people simply choose to pick none.

[–]Livecrazyjoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I worked at a dealership and one time I saw something similar. A guy bought a huge jacked up truck on a Friday. Come Monday he's back trying to unwind the deal because his wife told him he couldn't have it. She was literally there with her arms crossed making sure he did it.

Sad state some guys live in.

[–]TelasRayo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why does it even matter? I believe philosophical questions such as these are beyond the purview of (ask)TRP. Lift, plate, do whatever the hell you want and let other mofos enjoy their BP.

[–]Livecrazyjoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a look into how you shouldn't live. That's what makes it relevant.

[–]slowride780 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a married guy with other married friends, I absolutely cannot stand when I try to make plans for us guys to do something and I get the reply, “well, let me check with the wife,” or “let me check with the boss” (referring to his wife).

Stop saying that shit. It’s pathetic.

[–]Kyoga890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has its place at times. I knew a up guy who would always try and front a box first when they had very little money. Is it terrible of him when he has two kids? Yes is it a problem? No as his wife makes the smarter decision and shuts him down.

[–]alclarkey0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Making a big purchase with family money is something both people in a marriage should consult the other about. It's not about being controlled by the woman.

[–]Livecrazyjoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A fryer is not a big purchase. If it's a car or house maybe I'll discuss it with a women. But this guy wanted something to cook with. Then he was made to return it because she didn't like it. The guy doesn't need to discuss something like this with his wife or girlfriend. It's his money.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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