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So my ex gf hit me with the she wants a break from the relationship to miss me and rediscover her feelings for me after a period of fighting in our relationship (bullshit but I allowed her hamster away).

I replied with that is fine. I told her I am not a 'take a break' kinda guy and she should just drop the whole relationship.

She then got defensive and asked what I meant by 'drop the relationship'. I ignored her question and told her to go out be free and have fun.

She then said what do I mean by have fun (we all know she is about to swing branches).

I ignored this second question and told her that it is fine,I am not holding her back.

I then kept quiet and the silence hung in the air.

Her voice was shaking at this point.she then says 'okay then,am I agreeing to the break?'.

I replied with she should not worry about that and just go have fun (she got ticked off again with the have fun part).

She agreed me for time frame of the break. I replied with just go and have fun,be free and explore(still very calm at this point,I had shifted focus to the book I was reading).

There was silence again for a few minutes with her noticeably shaking voice,she said good night and I didn't reply.

She actually didn't cut the call,she was waiting for me to talk but I didn't say a word(I actually thought she did)

I called her name after I realized 5mins later she was still on the call. She answered saying she was waiting for me to say goodnight.

I said the goodnight and cut the call.

I made a quick call to a new plate and set up a fuck fest for this night.

Abundance mentality is key in every aspect of our lives.

Imagine if I was begging and trying to win her back.

I


[–]Retstortion166 points167 points  (52 children) | Copy Link

She’s going to fuck someone else. She was trying to justify it by seeing you break and beg.

Do not take her back

[–]Talisman64[S] 65 points66 points  (34 children) | Copy Link

Best case for her now is she returns but as a bottom of the barrel plate

[–]Retstortion64 points65 points  (33 children) | Copy Link

You’re fooling yourself. You’ll take her back.

If she is nothing to you after doing this, You’ll replace her.

[–]Talisman64[S] 31 points32 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

Well,she has been replaced my man.

Remember the plate I mentioned? There are more where that came from

[–]chunkycolors 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

But why consider putting your ex back in the barrel at all?

[–]KloppsPlan 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Best thing to do is beg and push her so far away she never comes back. Why stress yourself over her? Not even worthy of being a plate because once she figures out he won't commit again, she's the game playing sort that will cry whatever to get at him. Save yourself the stress, go beta on purpose, and don't give her space, send her into space on Elon Musk's rocket.

[–]Original_Dankster17 points18 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

go beta on purpose

I see no upside to doing this.

[–]BusterVadge7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There might not be in OP's case but there is a HUGE upside to doing this with a BPD woman.

[–]buddahbusted0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most guys are too proud, but this one little trick can save your life.

[–]KloppsPlan 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I see no upside to doing this.

Get rid of her for good.

[–]Original_Dankster1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There's other ways of getting a woman out of your life without risking your reputation - she'll tell everybody she knows about what a pussy you turned into.

[–]BusterVadge2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She's going to spread lies about him anyway. Almost all women do that after a break up to have the appearance of being justified.

[–]Original_Dankster1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's better she lie that "my ex was such an arrogant asshole" vs "my ex turned into such a whiny pussy".

[–]KloppsPlan 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Reputation? Who gives a fuck about what other people think? That's your ego talking. If people hate, let them. It means you are doing something right.

[–]Original_Dankster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're being naive.

First off, in the scenario we're discussing, the damage to your rep won't be people hating you - rather they will feel pity and shame for you. Going hardcore beta just to not have to deal with a broad won't make you hated, it will make you ridiculed.

Second, one should always guard their reputation closely. You need to read the Laws of Power.

[–]Retstortion4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Or keep your dignity and tell her to kick rocks

[–]KloppsPlan 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Who cares what she thinks? Oh, he got all emotional. Her opinion is just her subjective opinion and isn't worth anything, it doesn't make it objective fact. Also, if she goes around saying this dude is all emotional and yet the vast majority of other people know this isn't true, then she will just come off as delusional or salty. Just own that shit and move on. If you own things, do what you want, and don't give a damn then nobody can win.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your reputation in your social circles cares.

[–]Original_Dankster2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

this klopps guy doesn't have a fucking clue.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably a sperg.

"Own being a pussy" haha

[–]Retstortion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol own being a cuck

[–]TheMistakesWeMake56 points57 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty hilarious. I had an ex who branch-swung to a colleague of hers, and she pulled this same "I think we need a break" stunt just beforehand.

I did the same as you, said I don't do 'breaks' and said it would be great for both of us to move on. 18 months later and she still tries to contact me asking what she can do to get back together... AWALT, huh?!

[–]Talisman64[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mehn..I hope for her sake she doesn't come back.

[–]fnordsnord 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Always remember: If she want's "space," make her feel like Neil Armstrong. If she was "distance," make her think she's in China.

And if she wants "time," give her the millennium.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good one

[–]fnordsnord 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

This was a pretty good exercise. I give it a B-.

Instead of "drop the relationship," I would have gone with "break up."

If she asked you what that means, "call it quits."

If you allow her to set a "time frame," she still gets to think of it as a "break," and it's not. You're done.

[–]Talisman64[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't allow her set a time frame

That's what threw her off balance

[–]3chazthundergut34 points35 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

You are way too sprung on this chick.

You know enough to sprinkle in some tRP game, but in your core you're still needy.

Here's what you say next time:

Her: "I think we should take a break so I can rediscover my love for you blah blah (translation: there's a better prospect I wanna try out, but if it doesn't work out I still want a foot in the door with you)

You: "Okay."

And then radio silence. Move on. Go out and conquest. Let her text, let her call, let her email. Let her rage and storm. She ain't your problem no more.

Every single text you send her after that point is free validation. Every single one.

So move on and go spin some plates and get your mojo back. Good luck.

[–]Talisman64[S] 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Well,this event happened last night.

So the no contact just started.

Ofcourse,I am not that much of a psychopath.

I know and feel something has left but I am not acting on that feeling.

That's what counts

[–]3chazthundergut9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yea dude you're doing fine. But you need to be careful because I can see through your actions why she's leaving you in the first place.

Who sits on the phone in silence for five minutes with a chick? I wouldn't do that shit with a chick I was fucking, much less one who just told me that she's gotta take a break to go fuck other guys and rediscover her love for me.

Fuck that goofy bitch. Zero contact from here on out.

[–]Talisman64[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You got it chief

I actually left her to cut the call

But she didn't hence the 5mins silence.

I already distracted myself

Zero contact has already begun

Thank you for your comment

[–]Self-honest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct

[–]Chad17383 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This. “Okay” “I agree” should suffice. Everything you say after is just your neediness trying to delay her leaving you another second, while she gets free attention and validation.

[–]Talisman64[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well true,

The more words I said,the more she would have felt good about herself.

[–]Chad17380 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly.

[–]Talisman64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most important thing is,I didn't beg and I didn't show emotion.

She asked how long I wanted the break to last and I told her she should just go and have fun.

I let it go

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

On the one part I certainly agree but on the other hand, I see this as a strict boundary/expectation violation and would therefore overtly communicate this as unacceptable (end relationship entirely). Would you agree in a sense? I'd be curious to hear opinions on the pros and cons of either approach.

[–]kylerosa2120 points21 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

The way you handled is was really dope. Good stuff. Made me learn how I should handle similar issues in the future, so thanks

[–]Talisman64[S] 9 points10 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

You are welcome bro.

Just remember,always have plates and potential plates in the wings.

You won't give her a calm reply if you know only your right hand is the closest you would come to a warm pussy

[–]kylerosa214 points5 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I feel like this should’ve gone in the main sub tho

[–]Talisman64[S] 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Eventually,I would do that Still running an autopsy on the relationship

[–]kylerosa210 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

If she wants a break, I reckon the relationship is over.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

It is over my man..

The reason is might want to come back is because the new guy didn't work out.

[–]kylerosa211 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Limit to fwb or plate, don’t LTR it again

[–]Talisman64[S] -1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Well,I hope she doesn't come back.

I will damage her emotionally and leave what's left for the vultures of life

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Only women are this vindictive. Beta rage.

If you want to truly smear her stupid ego just show her that you dropped her just like that instead of creating some pinky and the brain rate masterplan.

[–]Talisman64[S] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol

The interpretation of my action is left to you.

There are consequences for every action.

IF she comes back,she will be punished.

[–]zboo1h-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the sentiment but not the entire idea.

I wouldn't call it vindictive, because it doesn't occupy my mind at all, but I've fucked exes who crawled back, and usually when I do it's the best sex possible, because I am entirely unconcerned about their comfort. If she never let me fuck her in the ass (I don't even like anal tbh) I'll fuck her in the ass. If she was easy to gag I'll keep her on her knees for an hour and slap her if she complains, and so on.

Meanwhile there are always other hoes, and I can't even say I'm angry at the one I'm abusing. She just lost that power that she had and now she's just another slut. Honestly with how often I have women crawl back to me and stick around afterwards I wonder if they don't prefer just being another slut to me.

[–]purplefidgetmidget0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What you mean is, she'll damage herself when you walk away and she has her exciting new sex, then realises the guy cannot replace the actual relationship part of your relationship, and comes running back, only to find the door closed and her trapped outside in the cold.

You've played it correctly. If you let her back in as an LTR you might as well install a cat-flap for her promiscuity.

[–]Talisman64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well,she will do the labours of a girlfriend without being the girlfriend.

[–]HyperSensitiveSigma0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The reason is might want to come back is because the new guy didn't work out.

That happens a lot. Girls get shiny object syndrome, two weeks later the new guy turns out a dud for one of many reasons. They come back talking sweet again, lol. Make sure she stays at arms length in future.

I will damage her emotionally and leave what's left for the vultures of life

This sounds bitter and vengeful. Chill.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitter and vengeful

There are consequences for our actions

Wouldn't you agree?

[–]Self-honest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He didn't do that good

[–]ThePhilaDood14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Where was the question in this post?

[–]Talisman64[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Good..the question is,

What would you have done in that situation?

[–]ThePhilaDood15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Me personally?

The second she brought up a break she had already convinced herself that she wanted to end things.

I would have just hard passed and forgot about her. No Goodnight or whatever you did.

[–]Talisman64[S] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This would have passed a stronger message across

But you know how women are right

She will take your strong message and interpret it that you are butt hurt and she will get that validation she wanted.

And if there is anything you should deprive a woman of,it is validation.

I took the more 'gracious' route because her hamster would start spinning and wonder why I didn't even beg or try to change her mind (I would usually sweet talk her and manipulate her to change her mind)

I did the opposite of what I would usually do.

That's why she held on a little longer with the hopes that I will change my mind.

No validation plus a hamster in overdrive..that's the way to make an exit.

[–]Self-honest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She will only think you're butt hurt if you have shown her that in the past.

[–]Wrath_of_Trump4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

There was silence again for a few minutes with her noticeably shaking voice,she said good night and I didn't reply

I called her name after I realized 5mins later she was still on the call.

I said the goodnight and cut the call.

That was weak as fuck my dude.

[–]Talisman64[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well,it was a delicate dance between being indifference and acting butt hurt

[–]Wrath_of_Trump6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You should be eager to put the phone down, say later and end call, don't drag it out. It's like you're holding on for hope or something that she'll change her mind.

[–]Talisman64[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True talk..

Even though I turned to read my book,it will seem like I was holding out.

She was also holding out for something.

Anyways,hindsight is usually 20/20

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It was being a hanger on slave. You did superbly, but, then, you sat on the phone for 5 minutes...doing something stupid waiting on her to say goodbye.

Overall, you get an A; but, it is an A-.

[–]Talisman64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She said good night and actually waited to hear me say it.

I was already off doing something else.

I heard crying in the background

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Boy she is in for the feelz alright, but not the ones she lied about "rediscovering".

Please update.

[–]Talisman64[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure thing,she has feels for another.

Have you heard this song titled 'lying eyes' by the eagles?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She’s dead to you, now.

If she asks why, it’s because “clean breaks are the best”.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man

She would obviously try and manipulate her way back in(I can't control that)

I will not allow that happen (under my control)

[–]purplefidgetmidget2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is there a question in here or...

[–]Talisman64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I will go with or...

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So my ex gf hit me with the she wants a break from the relationship to miss me and rediscover her feelings for me after a period of fighting in our relationship (bullshit but I allowed her hamster away).

She wants to fuck other men (AF) and have you as a fallback option (BB) as you correctly surmised. Or branchswing without letting go of you first, so you derisk her options.

You did good with "ok, go". Shouldn't have agreed to any timeframe or that it's a break, stick to "ok, it's over".

[–]Talisman64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well She was looking for a reason to fight with me last night.

I didn't give her that fight.

I didn't give her a time frame

She would try but won't be able to swing back

[–]Self-honest2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

You sat on the phone for 5 minutes in silence. Just think about that by itself.

[–]Talisman64[S] -2 points-1 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Lol

It was long enough to hear her cry after she didn't get the validation

[–]Self-honest3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I called her name after realizing 5 minutes later that she was still on the call

Drop the high and mighty attitude bro. That is just weak and needy. It's in no way cool or "red pill" like you're acting.

[–]Talisman64[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Weak and needy...

Maybe...maybe not...

You would understand why I did that if you listened in on the conversation.

I admit I should have cut the call myself after she said good night

But for a girl that was trying her best to pick a fight that night.

She was looking for that reaction of disgust and anger from me

I could have cut the call immediately but do you know what she would read it as..anger and that shit would make her so happy.

[–]Self-honest2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Dude it's oneitis. Why are you focusing on her? You're writing multiple paragraphs about this one girl. You're sitting in silence for 5 minutes after she has clearly expressed her willingness to fuck other guys. And you're acting like a know it all. It's obvious to anyone who really gets this stuff how lame that was. Good start, but true abundance mentality would be manifested by saying ok and hanging up and never talking to her or about her ever again.

Staying on the line silently for 5 minutes after she said goodbye is creepy as fuck. You're hamstering reasons why you did it. She is the one with abundance mentality.

Anyway, best of luck going forward man.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Okay,thank you.

I wouldn't have come here if I was a know it all.

And I shared my experience with the guys here for them to tell me what I did wrong.

I am talking about it here so I can get the pain out and free my soul from it.

The more I talk about it with you guys,the less pain I feel.

I could have handled the situation better but hindsight is 20/20.

Thanks for your comments man

This is a healing process for me and I feel much better than me holding it in

[–]Self-honest0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Cool, keep listening to the harsh responses. Don't pay any attention to people who are praising you. I'll take a crack at the situation for you here in a sec.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Alright then,

Look forward to it

[–]Self-honest1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

So my ex gf hit me with the she wants a break from the relationship to miss me and rediscover her feelings for me after a period of fighting in our relationship (bullshit but I allowed her hamster away).

She's straight up lying to you and has already fucked or is planning on fucking someone else. She needs the clear path so that she doesn't feel like the bad guy.

In a calm voice say "Ok cool. I've gotta go." And hang up. That's the end. You don't want to be comitted to someone who doesn't value you enough to not fuck other guys.

I replied with that is fine. I told her I am not a 'take a break' kinda guy and she should just drop the whole relationship.

Fine response. Still... say, "I've gotta go" and hang up. Staying on the phone is validating her with your time. She's a time ho. The longer you stay after she drops that bomb, the more valuable she feels. Women don't communicate overtly like men. She reads your actions, not your words or lack thereof.

She then got defensive and asked what I meant by 'drop the relationship'.

She's looking for you to be a dick to justify her waning attraction for you.

I ignored her question and told her to go out be free and have fun.

Talking too much and validating her.

She then said what do I mean by have fun (we all know she is about to swing branches).

You are letting her control the whole flow and reacting to her rather than setting the tone through boldness and action.

I ignored this second question and told her that it is fine,I am not holding her back.

Why are you still talking to her?

I then kept quiet and the silence hung in the air.

What is your goal?

Her voice was shaking at this point.she then says 'okay then,am I agreeing to the break?'.

She's trying to keep you on the hook as a backup.

I replied with she should not worry about that and just go have fun (she got ticked off again with the have fun part).

You sound like you clearly don't mean what you're saying. It's not congruent. If you really didn't give a shit, you would be off the phone by now.

She agreed me for time frame of the break. I replied with just go and have fun,be free and explore(still very calm at this point,I had shifted focus to the book I was reading).

Still on the phone. You obviously care.

There was silence again for a few minutes with her noticeably shaking voice,she said good night and I didn't reply.

Still on the phone. You obviously care and are looking for something in particular. Possibly for her to change course and come back to you?

She actually didn't cut the call,she was waiting for me to talk but I didn't say a word(I actually thought she did)

Confusing.

I called her name after I realized 5mins later she was still on the call. She answered saying she was waiting for me to say goodnight.

Weird.

I said the goodnight and cut the call.

Ok.

I made a quick call to a new plate and set up a fuck fest for this night.

Don't toot your own horn too much. What's a "new plate" in this scenario?

Abundance mentality is key in every aspect of our lives.

Agreed. You know it, but it's as if you haven't fully become it.

Imagine if I was begging and trying to win her back.

That's what your actions seemed like you were doing.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What if I straight up told her that I know she has fucked another guy and is just trying to use me as backup then I hang up on her.

[–]Republic_of_Ash0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mate, you are dramatic and weird.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Would it be weak to actually call her out on branch swinging?

"I want a break."

"Oh, already found someone else huh?" or "Whos the new guy?"

[–]Talisman64[S] 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That would just sound like I am butt hurt.

She clearly wanted a fight so she can hold that against and justify her branch swinging.

Dude,she actually went out of her way to try and pick faults with what I said.

It was best I let her go and turned my attention to other things.

The consolation is,I gave a monster of an orgasm last time we fucked. She was still having spasms for a few hours after sex.

I would take that as a golden star.

[–]Self-honest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What you're missing is saying things like go have fun and be free is covertly calling her out for branch swinging. That's why she got pissed. You need to realize how women actually communicate.

Also, why are you getting a gold star and giving a shit about her orgasm??? Stop making her or any girl your mental point of origin.

[–]AtlasCuckd8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My old droog, I see where you're coming from, but it would come off butthurt in the end. Best not let women make assumptions and draw conclusions, since they'll spin your words in a way to benefit their narrative.

Real Gs move in silence

[–]Caophi12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Like lasaGna

[–]NeezaPatricia0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i like this story. feelsgood!

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It does feel good my man.

[–]itsdir00 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

In my opionion you acted very well. Maybe you gave her some free validation with unnecesary answers but overall you did fine.

Consider posting this in the main subreddit as an example. Good content.

[–]Self-honest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. There are plenty of better examples. This was pretty weak.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man,

I would do that

[–]michaelkc030 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just want to say props man. It takes some balls to just step away indifferently. With my last girl I completely lost frame...cried, begged like a little pussy. But ultimately we learn from our mistakes, thanks for reaffirming my commitment to never humiliate myself like that again, especially for someone so fickle.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well,I won't lie that it was painful as hell but I tried to downplay it as much as possible.

The 'closure' is her chance to see you suffer

She wants to feed on the pain of your soul

[–]WeddingCrasher910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No matter how much you think you were a pussy, i was a much bigger pussy on so many levels

[–]jb_trp0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Girls like this do not deserve a second chance. Hard next, erase her on social media, and do not engage.

She'll try to pull you back in eventually (after Chad pumps and dumps her), but you'll be a much better man in the end to not deal with the BS and just move on.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man

This is the plan,develop myself and not be at this same level when she eventually tries to reconnect.

[–]cptgoatsack0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Abundance mentality is the shit. Got a text from a girl rejecting me about an hour ago but I'm meeting up with a hotter one later tonight + 2 more on Sunday and I have a couple of plates I can meet whenever I want. Didn't bother responding, just deleted her number.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's it my man,

Knowing you have other options..that is priceless

[–]cptgoatsack0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also it's important not to waste your time trying to get one over on her, talking trash or any of that beta bullshit. You win by doing nothing.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well,the anger has left my system now

I don't have that urge anymore

[–]Jaythe4th0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Do you ever asked yourself what made her want the "brake"? You fucked up somewhere and you gonna do it again if you don't know where.

Getting pussy is easy, holding a good relationship is redpill on hard mode.

[–]Talisman64[S] 14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

My man,this is a good question.

I ran an autopsy for the relationship from my end and I realized that I broke frame a couple of times.

Plus I was a domineering and emotional abusive guy.

I found it hard to look the other way when she did something wrong so I punished her verbally for it and zap her self esteem.

Then like a psysco, I would call her up the next day and sweet talk her into coming back.

I never trusted her.

she loved me enough to introduce me to her parents and was proud to show me off to her friends but...i was not always the sea of calm she wanted.

She is not an angel but I wont go into details.

[–]Jaythe4th5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You just answered yourself, good job on that.

Don't brake frame and apply dread when in doubt. Ignoring a girl on the right situations is our superpower.

[–]Talisman64[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks man,

At this point, I just want to battle my inner demons

rage into the darkness of an unknown future

And attain immortality through my achievement in this physical plane.

I wont lie man,I feel pain..a shit ton of pain

But man is built through pain and I thank her for that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I commend you for this comment and your post. I understand completely where you’re coming from.

Salute brother, keep improving as you are!

[–]jimbub 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

By abusive, could you elaborate? Like you played mind games all the time?

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Mind games was her Forte.

I have a nack for seeing into people's souls and knowing why they do what they do.

I dug into her mind and uncovered alot of shit.

I used it against her when I felt like

She was afraid of me to a large extent.

[–]jimbub 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Damn, that doesn't sound like the healthiest of relationships, so it's probably a good thing this happened. It's allowed you to step back and see the faults in your ways, so props to you for being able to put your ego aside and do so

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True,

I mirrored the relationship she has with her dad.

It is not about healthy for her,it is about the emotions she feels.

Even with the talk about break,she still has strong emotional attachments

[–]zboo1h1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, my dude. You can do everything "right" and a bitch will still dump you or say she needs a break. All you can do is always be ready to take the loss, and stay solid in yourself and don't give your locus of emotional control to some bitch.

[–]TheRedPillMonkey0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

My response?

"Breaks aren't real. Id have another girl by the end of any break and have no interest in dropping that to.come back. But you're free to go if you want.

[–]Talisman64[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

She knew I was going to get with other babes from my reaction

That was why she was hesitant and hoping I will change my mind (the long period she was waiting for me to say goodnight).

It is best to keep her hamster spinning.

The best way to break up is not to give her validation by begging and let her hamster spin away

[–]elcarlosmiguel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup never say you have other girls, only show, by saying you show that you still care

[–]TheRedPillMonkey0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I agree with what you had said. My only change would be to let her know I'd probably be too busy to come back from a break.

I also won't next her for asking. My general rule is im not going to prevent her from cheating or swinging. I'll just be ready to pull the trigger when she does. But that's just me. I tend to give enough rope for someone to hang themselves with and make it known I'll have to interest in preventing it, or cutting them down when they try.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I get you brother,

I don't feel the need to mention it that I would be waiting for her.

I will let my actions say that to her.

And I fully agree with you. Always be ready to pull the trigger

[–]zboo1h0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Good for you, my man. Abundance mentality is definitely fucking key.

The masterful way you handled this ex, be prepared for her to boomerang back with some variation of "heyyy" in the near future.

Then you can plate her if you want. Bitches just can't leave indifferent guys alone.

Masterful shit.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you man.

I actually cheated on her on Monday and she pulled off this shit last night.

I couldn't care less

[–]PhrikeNCX-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you had implied that you were committed, then cheating is a real douche move. Other than that, nice FR. I would have cut her off a lot sooner, though. By continuing the conversation, you started to operate in her frame a little. It should have been a cut and run. I liked the stoic approach to reading the book -- it would have been much more effective in person.

[–]Talisman64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well,I had to balance it between being indifferent and acting like I was butt hurt.

I made sure I didn't give her the certainty about how long the 'break' will last.

So she would hamster away about losing on both sides.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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