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Getting your ass kicked. (self.askTRP)

submitted by Gaydolf1932

Was at a restaurant with my LTR, and a guy made an audible cat call to her right next to me and I saying she has fat tits. I approached him and talked to him saying that she’s my girl and he should watch he says. Convo goes back and forth and his small scrawny friend gets up sucker punched me straight in the teeth. And before I could react he punches again and again until I’m on the floor and they’re both beating me. Fights broken up and my girl is crying whatever I play it cool. Obviously the fight was unfair and what not, but did I do the right thing? Afterwards I played it off cool and laughed about it without being bothered. I honestly feel so defeated and unmanly but obviously I didn’t show it to her. Not to mention that we didn’t bang that night even though she clearly wanted it earlier. Did me losing kill her tingles? I just want to know what to do in this situation. Thank you and sorry for the long post boys


[–][deleted] 127 points128 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Why should anything an idiot says have any bearing on your frame?

Ignore and get on with your life.

Would you fight a little girl that calls your LTR a poopyhead? Would you fight a homeless guy who calls your LTR a big titted alien?

You fell into some random assholes frame with both feet.

Which is why he picked you in the first place. He saw you had a frame of glass. DYEL?

[–]lululenox19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Also this. The behavior of the guy is not a reflection of YOU. THEY DON'T KNOW YOU. That person was acting that way because of his own ignorance. Like u/RogerNorvell said, if a 9 year old kid came up to you and said "hey stupid idiot, go get a haircut you ugly", are you gonna fight and beat that kid up? Ignorance has no age limit, if a grown man says the same thing, you should think "oh poor guy, the guy is having a troubled day or a bad life, I'mma let him live on with that" but to let that person offend you to the point you get into a fight with them, you're giving him control over you. If he can anger you enough that you have to confront him to prove yourself, they've controlled you, and you've already lost the fight to begin with. The hardest fights are the ones you walk away from. 99% of fights are 100% avoidable. Unless someone is getting beaten up and you have to save a life, or if someone rushes and attacks you, all other fights are avoidable, and this is coming from someone who teaches people how to fight (I'm a taekwondo instructor, this is the first thing I teach all my students)

[–]hash_bang2226 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"You win 100% of the fights you don't get into."

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You lose even the fights you win....

20 years ago I had a side girl, best friends with my bi-girlfriend. Frequent threesomes, sleepovers, being awakened by a giggling double blowjob....

Fuck, where was I going with this?

Side chick Sarah had a younger brother, Aaron.

Typical hotheaded teen.

Got into a simple barfight with an older regular barfly.

Went to jail for the night.

Barfly ended up with a head bleed - Subarachnoid hematoma - where an artery in your head breaks and the high pressure blood crushes your brain inside the skull.(alcohol slows clotting and alcoholics that have fucked their liver don't clot properly baseline.) He died.

Aaron went to jail. Spent tens of thousands defending himself in court. Parents lost their house. He went to prison for a bit. Lost three years of what is arguably your most crucial life experience.

Finally ruled self defense, but too late. He let it fuck up his life. Even now, he's 40, and still can only maintain min-wage jobs.

Plus, he has to live with the fact that he killed a guy. In a retarded barfight. That's a heavy load for a teenager.

You can kill somebody with one punch.

What world do you live in where anything else is worth that? Your ego?

[–]hash_bang225 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn man. Thanks for sharing. Hate hearing about people's lives getting ruined over something completely avoidable.

[–]professor_mcamateur1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In fact, there are 3 ways a fight can go:

1.) Win/Win

2.) Win/Lose

3.)Lose/Lose

...

1.) Both opponents survive the altercation.

2.) One person dies, the other survives.

3.) Both opponents die as a result of the fight.

Don't confuse an actual fight with some scrappy asshole who just wanted to flex and get high on adrenaline because he can't keep his own woman around long enough to satisfy him.

You got sucker punched, but everybody kept their lives; consider yourself lucky. The actual odds of somebody dying in a fight is 2/3. Not a good bet.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

And you make a good point. Everything’s a learning experience in life. Yeah I’m built but not huge. Been lifting for 2 years.

[–]TRPcez16 points17 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't think anyone added this but it's super obvious.

Learn some type of martial arts. Get started with BJJ or Muay Thai. Heck, karate works too. Just anything to protect your ass.

Stay sharp, u/Gaydolf1932

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Beware, as a side effect you risk keeping your ass fit, making new friends and improving your smv though.

[–]Black_m0ngoose 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Thanks for the warning, don't want anything cutting into my video game time.

[–]ModTheRedPike1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Making too many friends. Slow your roll.

[–]Black_m0ngoose0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

On a scale of Incel to Alpha, how many reports am I wracking up?

[–]ModTheRedPike1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

AAA credit rating. The ones about the copypasta are boring, but I'm not a fan of the slap fights. But... it isn't the main sub. Whatcha think, should I lock the thread?

[–]Black_m0ngoose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing left to say, everyone gave their piece. Nowhere to go from here, I'd lock it.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The day I got into the whole incident is the same day my first boxing lesson was ironically. Never learned enough the first day though.

[–]kruxofthemimed2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

not much you can do if you get sucker punched and double teamed. i think it goes without saying a lot of self defense is about evaluating dangerous situations and staying out of them. get knocked out on concrete? you have a pretty good chance of catching some brain damage, if not being put into a coma or death.

if you're in a heated situation (which in this case you definitely should not have been unless you're 300 lbs and fucking jacked) try to get out of it and if anyone approaches you in a threatening way be ready to throw a punch first if you're gonna commit and stand there. fights aren't fair, and hitting the other guy before he sucker punches you for no reason can be the difference between you walking away that night or you drooling for the rest of your life

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen93 points94 points  (40 children) | Copy Link

What kind of restaurants do you visit?

saying she has fat tits.

"Thanks bro."

[–]ashleyshafer2746 points47 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Was definitely a Waffle House

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Was definitely a Waffle House

In which case the instigator was undoubtedly correct. Probably can't tell where the tits end and the belly begins.

[–]Zenwarz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This one 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Also doing martial arts will make it less likely to get into a fight. Normally people doing martial arts get a good feel for an opponent and vice Versa, it gives you a different aura. People normally don't fuck with me. And if they do I know if and when to engage and when to back off because I likely get my ass kicked.

[–]thatguywhatshisface75 points76 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

When guys do that, they are challenging you. If he’s got a buddy or 2, expect them to try and hit you. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE. If he gets in your face, stand back, who cares. Then when he makes a move you can punch him before he punches you. Guys will try the dumbest shit, get in your face, put their arm over your shoulder, hand on your shoulder, that means you’re going to get a pussy punch because he’s too scared to not surprise you.

Keep your distance at all costs, and when you’re going in to defend yourself don’t show any sign of it. Unless there are lots of people around, then you’ll have dodge a punch or take one for the sake of lawsuits lol

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I’ll keep that in mind should that happen again, thank you. I called the cops but apparently me trying to push them off of me was retaliation and therefore I can’t charge with assault. But I just feel like such a pussy that I lost in front of her.

[–]Throwaway-24242430 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like bullshit. File a report and press charges with their superior.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

BS whoever told you that. game plan:

  • get pictures of any physical bruises/injuries
  • get an EYE WITNESS. you must have at least one
  • call the police to file a report and name the eye witness in the police report. name the perpetrators. be very calm and civil to the officer, obviously, as you recall the details

i understand that you feel emasculated of sorts. you learned a lesson, they called your bluff. like the guy above said, you gotta stay out of arms reach, or in public with eye witnesses if things may go down. preferably the hired staff at the venue as they won’t disappear and they can be counted on to back up your story.

try not to rumenate over it. if i were you i would tell my girl “you know, i did something stupid that i’ll never do again. namely, escalating a situation when i was outnumbered. i will be smarter in the future.” but that’s just me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For real bro ? And I thought MY country self-defense laws were a gift to thugs.

[–]lululenox25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This. In any kind of tense situation, no matter if you're trash talking or already in a street fight, distance management is key, you never wanna stand within arms length in front of your opponent, it is very easy for them to land a quick and damaging shot that can put you in an instant disadvantage, you either keep out of arms length so when they attack you they have to step forward into your space and that would give you a chance to react, or you close the distance all the way up when you're body to body with your opponent, at the distance there isn't enough space for your opponent to attack you in a way that'll actually hurt you, the only way they can hurt you is to push you off then hit you, this will also give yourself time to react. So many times I see people straight up trash talking each other in a distance where one punch can knock you the fuck out, don't make this rookie mistake again

[–]placatedpelican4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ezekial choke will fuck you up or a knife attack, better to keep your distance.

[–]SuperCrazy072 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd bet a lot of money that the dudes that are good enough to choke you out using an ezekial choke are not the ones starting fights at restaurants and bars hoping their buddy jumps in.

Agree about the knife attack though.

[–]Zenwarz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahahahaah yeah :) Ezekiel choke might be one of the dumber street fight moves 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–]charlysays19962 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Uppercut

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Amen bro. As a RPer you're expected to avoid being reactive to girl, why shouldn't you do the same with guys ? Imao, falling in an AMOG trap is far worse than failing a shit test regarding smv.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What’s an AMOG trap?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Something meant to make you react in a bitchy/insecure way to make you lose status and raise the provoker's own by comparison

[–]4TBhdd0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Keep your distance at all costs, and when you’re going in to defend yourself don’t show any sign of it.

Question for anyone: I've heard from more than one source over the years that if a punch seems imminent, to do something like the Steve Jobs pose where you nonchalantly have your left hand near your chin. The point is by having your hand there you're better able to quickly deflect a punch to the face ...and then retaliate with your right hand if need be.

[–]Zenwarz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you can just take both hands up, palms facing outside, like hey I want no stress. This plus proper distance management and you'll be able to react quick with an elbow or just defend

[–]Cloudsurf8910 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Sorry to hear it - how are your teeth doing? Been there several years back - it aint fun 😏

Unfortunately I can't imagine your SMV doing anything in her eyes but lowering - it's a dog eat dog world.

I'd just continue to STFU about it with her, get proper dental treatment if needed, get down the gym much more to gain some size (fewer people pick on the calm big guy who looks like he can handle himself) and regain your calm focus, continue to raise your SMV and increase that dread level again.

Also get some combat training if you haven't yet (I've trained boxing for several years, have been in several stand offs in street/bars/clubs but never been hit or had to punch - my awareness and trained sense of calm must come across as they have always lost their nerve and backed off).

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

My teeth are good thankfully and yeah that’s the plan. Ironically enough today was my first boxing lesson, but not like I learned anything significant the first day.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you had started the lessons earlier this could have been you yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHYHXqy3P8o use that as motivation to keep going

[–]watermelonicecream8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You lost the minute you got butt hurt about what homeboy had to say.

[–]cl35378 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You fighting made her lose tingles period. Next time just ignore it, and just say to her "Lets go somewhere with more classy people" Even if you win you still lose in most women's eyes.

[–]liberty112725 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Don't entertain this unless you're ready to fight and 9/10 times you better strike first and disable your opponent like they did to you. Choose to ignore this next time or go straight for the fight, no talking. This isn't legal advice...you could go to jail.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Judging by how the cops did nothing I’m going to go straight for the punch the next time someone acts up. Thank you.

[–]steini190410 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, nope, imagine being one of your country's celebs and getting beaten up by some thugs. Think the police would sit on their asses?

Make it official, file a report. Dress well but casual, like a white shark collared shirt or whatever you got with some nice dark chinos, nice shoes and a fitting belt. They'll give a shit

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should've just grabbed her ass and made a smart comment to them as you walked by. They were exercising their 1A rights. By you 'confronting' them, you are the one who escalated. That looked very insecure, immature, and you paid the price for that. (See mateguarding) Someone catcalls my woman, I just wink, grab her ass while I look at them, and keep walking.

[–]Pluglord5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s more about feeling out the situation and using street smarts. Choose your battles wisely.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if you are matched, say out loud twice “i dont want to fight, back off.” firm and loud, so the bystanders will hear and will recall what you said when a police report gets filed. after you have said this twice and they are still in your face haul off and go for bear with your fist.

if you are outnumbered, grab your date and laugh them off like “ok sure whatever...” as you exit asap.

[–]_isthisthingon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong mindset my dude, as it's been addressed several times already, even if you win you lose. In this setup, getting in a fist fight is always a no-no.

You reacting to what some random SAID (it's mere words, no action) is already a major loss of control/frame and you're not supposed to lose frame. Shrug it off, ignore it, just don't let it get to you. She's not a damsel in distress and you don't have to prove anything.

If it went the other way around and you had thrown the first punch and eventually "won", she'd most likely hold that against you in the future as you losing control over some douche's verborrhea, which ultimately could have even been taken as a compliment to her.

[–]Black_m0ngoose25 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

In the old-world, you're dead and your "girl" is being spit-roasted by the two guys that kicked your ass.

Don't like that outcome? Carry, and train MMA.

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[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Carrying has actually helped me stay out of fights. Most people don’t carry guns so knowing that I literally have the ability to take a life stops me from getting into a bad situation.

[–]Black_m0ngoose4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

/u/builtspill

Most of the time, these kids get into confrontations that they can't possibly win because of their own insecurity. They go in hoping that their opponent won't call their bluff.

When you carry, there is no question in your mind who is more lethal. Thus, the desire to confront your hecklers is severely diminished. You're confident in your abilities and no longer feel compelled to prove yourself. Their life is essentially in your hands, and you've given them a pardon.

Carrying and training MMA shows you where your boundaries are.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Couldn’t agree more. I was that very kid because I thought I was invincible.

I think another thing that helped me out was developing a solid posture. I stand at 5” 7’ and 155lb which is not much but when I go out I get asked if I’m in the military or police. A few months ago I was waiting outside a shitty concession stand in Atlanta by a bar and was mistaken for a bouncer numerous times. I think having a good posture that says don’t fuck with me is 90% of the battle because I haven’t been picked on in years since I corrected my posture.

[–]LiveAFTSOV0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

your "girl" is being spit-roasted by the two guys that kicked your ass

This thought genuinely pisses me off.

CARRY ALL DAY

[–]placatedpelican5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If i was you i wouldnt have addressed the situation at that distance unless you wanted an altercation, you should have shut him up as soon as he spoke and kept it moving. By walking up to him and getting in fighting distance ( to me its the 5 yard rule) you announced with body language you wanted to fight. People who ussually try to disrespect you out of nowhere are not going to fight fair, should have been aware of your surroundings. Its immature to fight but we're all animals at the end of the day and women are turned on by aggression , you should have broke her back when you got home.

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Prepare for your gf to not be as affectionate, stop putting out, and dump you. It’s nature. Biology doesnt care if it was a sucker punch and double team. Work on some other girl (should already be doing that).

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

but did I do the right thing?

Clearly not. Nothing about this looks good on you.

Avoid fights where possible, because sooner or later you always lose.

The restaurant probably has video footage, call the police.

Did me losing kill her tingles?

YES

[–]redlittleboot2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People who pick fights are the same that usually win them, if you don't know how to win a fight then don't get in one, besides you stepped right into his trap.

[–]Peter_B_Long3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You reacted to what he said. That was your first mistake.

I get it though. She's your girl and your instinct is to defend her.

Next time, just have the mentality that this dude is so beneath you and he doesn't even deserve a reaction. I would've just looked at him, chuckled, slapped my girls ass, and then walked away.

Afterwards I played it off cool and laughed about it without being bothered. I honestly feel so defeated and unmanly but obviously I didn’t show it to her.

You know, it's basically impossible to hide how you're feeling through your body language / voice tone. If you felt defeated and unmanly after the encounter, then that shit will show through micro-expressions and your overall vibe. Maybe after you and your girl ate, you could've told her, "you know, I'm not feeling great about what happened, I'm gonna need to end the night a little early" or some shit.

I remember I had a first date with this chick I met at an event. We had brunch and we were walking back to my car to head to my place. I made eye contact with some dude and he was like, "Hey wassup?" in a confrontational tone. I pretended that I didn't hear him and we just kept walking. I remember after that I felt a little shaken up and nervous and I'm pretty sure she noticed it even though I tried my absolute best to display that I didn't notice the guy and that I wasn't bothered by it.

Shit happens and only way to avoid it is to know how to defend yourself physically.

[–]RedPilledRoaster3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Amused mastery. That is what you’re missing.

Don’t take aggressors seriously, unless things get physical or they personally threaten you or your loved ones.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Some asshole makes a comment like that you either leave or even the odds with a baseball bat. Who gives a shit what she thinks after it’s all over

[–]NapalmSunshine2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Would A&A work against situations like this?

For example:

Walking with your girl, guy yells “... has fat tits” You say “all the better for me to suck on when I take her home” (or something similar/more clever)

Instead of getting defensive and letting it turn into violence later or being put in a position where you could come out looking like a chump?

[–]The_other_bj2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I’m looking for more advice in this vain. What are the strategies to not lose frame especially with a woman that would make a comment that you didn’t say “anything”. I don’t think straight ignoring is a good strategy but definitely not walking into their space. What are some good options as far as maintaining frame with your woman?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I used a lot of amused mastery when I was a dumbass kid in high school. Literally every time I did AA I nearly got my ass kicked. If it weren’t for them fearing suspensions or OSS I probably would have got my ass kicked several times. In the real world you don’t have teachers and administrators showing up to save your ass. My suggestion is to keep walking regardless of whether you can kick their ass.

[–]Donman8762 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Couldnt help but laugh bro, you a whole bitch. Should have just chilled or if you gon confront somebody at least put your guard up. No doubt she's gonna lose respect and attraction for you.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

exactly, no way is this chick gonna still want to fuck him. He showed that he had weak frame.

[–]crespo_modesto2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had my ass kicked before, "blacked out". Lost a shoe, came to crying being held up by a girl covered in blood haha. Next day they stole my shit too, charged $2K on a card... I guess I apparently accidentally hit a girl in the face trying to take my coat off in a really crowded party. This was the days when you put straight vodka into an empty water bottle to not raise suspicion though who carries a water bottle.

yeah sucker punch and more than 1 to 1 sucks.

I'm not a fighter myself. I also try to avoid fights because I don't have health insurance and yeah... pretty sure I would lose despite being built(helps for the whole stance to avoid fighting in the first place).

[–]chadjugo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mannn fuck fighting out in the real world.

If i was even going to entertain that, i’d commit to a full fleged exhibition match at a local gym, invite our buddies, and hire some rando ref off craigslist.

Streetfighting is NEVER safe post high school/uni, even if the other guy seems “easy”. So many other factors that just ain’t worth it

[–]Bruchibre3 points4 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Wow that's fucked up because the fight was unfair.

What the guys said is right, you were probably too close, so you didn't see the small guy coming. Being sucker punched is the worst thing that can happen. You need to make sure you have all the guys in sight.

Besides that, you seem not to be physically injured? then I think it's OK. You acted brave in front of your gf, remind her that if it wasn't for being sucker punched it would have been different. I think she got scared for you and wasn't in the mood for sex anymore after that. I'm sure you weren't neither.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Nah face and body just a bit bruised up. Yeah some fucking guys are ridiculous but I’m glad I got trp to help when you’re feeling down.

[–]Bruchibre3 points4 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Then it's fine. You can't always win, it just takes time to digest the pain, of course when it's recent you can't help thinking about it and "what if". Move on, take it as a lesson for next time. What these guys did has zero honor. Did this happen in USA btw?

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah so many what ifs. No in Canada. Some shitty justice system

[–]Bruchibre1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

I thought Canadians were more peaceful. Were there foreigners/immigrants?

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Nah they were white. I’m the darker Arabic one lol

[–]endertheend0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy then, get a lawyer say it was racially motivated. Theyll be put in jail for a long time.

[–]Bruchibre-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Hehe thanks for replying. Maybe that explains the catcalling, they are hating on you because they're alone and you're not! Though I also thought that Canadians weren't racists. I need to update my definition of Canada (never been there).

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[–]Bruchibre-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think your racist bruh

I think you're dumb bruh. Can you stop trolling me now?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Though I also thought that Canadians weren't racists.

Dude. There are about 35 million Canadians. You'll find a bit of everything here.

[–]Bruchibre1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right there was this kid who shot at people in a Mosque last year.

35 million is small country though :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Small country, but large enough and diverse enough that just about every strain of opinion will be represented somewhere by some people.

[–]placatedpelican1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

This nigga racist

[–]Bruchibre0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Are you triggered?

It's a legit question, profiling the attackers

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[–]LethalShade3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why is that racist? He gives his reason for asking if they're from outside of Canada. Stop being a triggered cry-baby.

[–]placatedpelican-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Look at his original question hes saying i thought Canadians where peaceful than asked if they where foreigners, by virtue of that question hes saying foreigners arent peaceful .

[–]Bruchibre2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wooo SJW is triggered. It matters if you are culturally sensitive: it can give clue on why it is happening or how you are going to get your ass kicked. This is a post about fighting.

[–]friendandadvisor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your approaching 2 men means that you should NOT have been in the position to be sucker punched. Fault on you.

Find out if there is a police report, and see if the 2 men are identified on it. If so, contact a lawyer.

[–]FelipeAngeles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You may need to learn two things. 1.- Keep your distance. 2.- Deescalate.

Unless you are in a ring with a referee, or you are being physically attacked. Always avoid fighting. Don't be a smart ass, don't try to prove anything. It may be enough to tell the other guy. "Come on, don't be like that". Get you and your gf safely out of there. Your value in her eyes is higher if you know how to get out of a difficult situation. A smart woman will appreciate it. Edit:spelling

[–]TheRedPi11a1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You've broken the main rule of The Red Pilled - your frame. Made you look like you care about your dumb ass girlfriend so much or thought she cannot take an insult. I'd sit and say "Hey, he said your tits look fat. What, you are not gonna say something back?" if you are going to treat her like a princess - she will stab you in your stupid back and suck these guys off to prove that she's tougher than you think. It's hilarious that you are on TRP being a white knight.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess I’ve never faced a situation where my frame was tested like this yet in my red pill journey. I learned something today though.

[–]TheRedPi11a0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well now you know that the frame is something way more complicated than you imagined. Anyway, I hope you are doing good. Don't ever white knight or take something like this personally. If you are great with the game any woman will stay with you even if everyone calls her a slut for being with you. That was a minor insult really. I'd dump a girl who cannot take it.

[–]Wrath_of_Trump1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"At least I'm not fuckin my own hand tonight" and move on.

A fight is a gamble, and you didn't know the odds. Losing was the worst outcome, even if it wasn't a fair one. The 2nd worst outcome is to do or say nothing. If she doesn't feel safe around you because you won't defend her in public, she is guaranteed to either start a fight with you or all together lose attraction to you. But, that's water under the bridge now. The tingles might be going away soon, but you paid a high price to learn this lesson.

[–]rcwhitaker1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude if you're gonna go over to have "a talk," thats a straight up act of aggression, and imo you were right to do it, but you need to be on your shit if you're going to. Scrawny friend "sucker punches" you? how? you should be ready to kill these dudes, can't be getting "sucker punched" if you're ready to fight, thats just getting punched and then getting your ass beat.

Either lift and train to fight so that you can fuck dudes like this up beyond any reasonable doubt, or do what everyone else says and bitch out every time someone makes a pass at your girl, see how that works out.

[–]3chazthundergut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You handled it wrong because you became reactive.

Would you confront a group of homeless men for doing the same? No way.

Next time keep your distance and say: "You sound jealous, faggot" and laugh while you keep moving.

Also keep lifting and sign up for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, she probably will always see you as weak, even if she feels bad for you. That's the reality. You shouldn't have tried to "White Knight" the situation. Just ignore them. Getting into fights has very little reward.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You did what I would have done. Even if I knew I was going to get my ass kicked. If she doesn’t see the value in what you did then move on. But good on you bro. Doing what’s right doesn’t always result in what you want but at least you can live with yourself

[–]screechhater2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

walk into the local station and talk to the stationmaster Give your side very civilly and explain you went right into defensive mode.

It was not a fight on one against two.

As someone that had kicked serious ass and had his ass seriously kicked, you need skills. Either BJJ or Krav Mag. No ifs about it.

The lack of attraction, emasculation feelings are on you. Don’t put it on her.

Many men have said shit to my then girl now wife and I laughed it off, always as owning my masculinity as mine. But the fee that entered my space, paid dearly.

It’s not about the cat calls and making a scene. It’s about how you handle you. BJJ or Krav will help you from day one.

My sons are in BJJ and ask me to spar constantly. They told their instructor how fast I am. He asked me to spar very quietly I bowed at the mat and to him and politely declined. He accepted my respectful declination.

He knows through my demeanor there is a wolf in sheeps clothing not needing to prove anything. You mist achieve this in TRP, life and your fighting skills. It will save you a lot of grief.

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you, I will try my best.

[–]izual192 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Conceal carry ftw.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Go in for the kill. Brutally. Inhumanely.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cobra Kai never dies!

[–]Casd120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol what did you expect was gonna happen when you confronted the cat callers? A classy back and forth with them apologizing to you? Always be ready for a sucker punch, kick, tackle when confronting

[–]streaxy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever the outcome may be, this a great opportunity for you to look into improving your physical fitness and namely your fighting abilities. This incident will keep you motivated to workout and become better for a long time. These guys did you favor.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta be smart. If you can take him then Mig the shit out of him. If not just let your gf get cat called. If she's not a third she'll be fine.

Getting your ass kicked is the worst outcome.

[–]burrrahhh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would've acted like I didnt hear what they said, all they wanted was to beat you because they felt insecure and wanted to boost their egos.

Anyways, what happened is in the past learn from it move on, don't ruminate too much over it.

[–]Herdsengineers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You learned a lesson about "Situational Awareness" the hard way. Next time, keep your distance enough to observe the whole group and don't focus on one guy that is trying to distract you. Also, there is no such thing as an unfair street fight.

As for the scrawny friend, remember that sometimes that scrawny guy has training and knows how to leverage his body and center of gravity into a rather good punch. Technique is important. You can learn stuff like this in a good martial arts dojo.

Next, understand by reacting to his comment, you are escalating/entering a potentially dangerous situation. Don't do that in the future. Instead, just say "I agree, thanks man." or something similar to the next idiot that cat calls her and move on.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did me losing kill her tingles?

yes

you shoulda just winked at them you white knight faggot

[–]Gaydolf1932[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No I shouldn’t have. If someone knows you’re with a girl and they go and say that right in front of your face, they’re blatantly disrespecting you and as a man you shouldn’t stay quiet to that disrespect. Who gives a fuck about the girl, the guy basically assumed I wouldn’t do anything so he went and fucked around with my property. So no it’s not white knighting. Now should I have picked her up that night, I wouldn’t have gave a fuck but when you’re dating someone, in that time she is your property, and letting someone fuck around with your property without doing anything is a pussy move.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nah you read the whole situation wrong. when someone whistles at my ferrari, i don't go pick a fight with them. i take it as a compliment and give them a little wink.

you looked like an insecure twat and got exactly what you deserved and yes, her pussy dried up like a dessert when she saw you lose

[–]BluntMFer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol dont fight over a girl. If she gets cat called just look back, give him a smirk and walk away with your girl.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Avoid fighting at all costs since it presents with enormous risks even if you are justified or in the legal right to defend yourself. Even big strong guys get sucker punched. The world is not fair and most people don't fight fair. If possible, change the scene or bar area you go to. Most guys that are being disrespectful are low class losers or entitled colleges kids with beer muscles. Avoid them. And if you need to fight or feel compelled, pick your battles and hit first. Typically, in a street fight, if you hit first you'll have the tactical advantage. Avoid fighting when you're alone tho. Better to not respond to provoking behavior then respond and escalate and then get your ass kicked. You can always say to your plate, ignore those losers, haters...your smv shouldn't take a hit, if anything you take the high road. If your plate expect you to fight then correct that behavior.
However, it is true that yoir girl expects you to protect her and she should feel secure. Thats why you should learn some skills and lift. Learn how to throw a jab.

Also, most fights after the first punch, transform to wrestling matches...learn how to wrestle and not get into a choke hold...

[–]GuitarHero070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do an analysis of the best and worst case scenarios. Best case scenario: the punks back off or you teach them a lesson and look tough in front of your girl. Worst case scenario: you are severely injured or killed, or you are charged with assault and various other charges.

There are a lot of people out there who have a lot less to lose than you do. They don't care if they are charged with a felony, hell they might not even care if they go to jail. A lot of people aren't thinking things through clearly. The risk of engaging in a physical confrontation with them outweighs any potential benefit.

Like others suggested, it's best to just agree and amplify or ignore them. Getting beat up like that didn't do anything to help your situation.

[–]flatbushwick0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You did the right thing, it’s unfortunate you got that ass beat but that’s how it goes sometimes and you were outnumbered. Live like a soldier, die like a soldier.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No he did what he had to do. Even if it resulted in getting killed. That’s why men make more money than women. If she doesn’t appreciate that he put his life on the line for her, then fuck that bitch

[–]boy_named_su0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You wanna be big enough that motherfuckers will think twice about stepping up. And good enough at defense that you're harder to hit. So hit they gym for some hypertrophy and find a boxing coach that is experienced in defense.

And keep your mouth shut if it's more than one guy

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. You don’t say shit like that in public. Thems fighting words. It sucks when you’re not able to win, but fuck them, and try your best

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i get it but like. don’t feel like a pussy in front of her. if she starts acting weird just kick her to the curb.

[–]party_dragon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

troll post, fuck off.

In the tiny chance you're serious, no, you didn't do the right thing. Mate guarding is never the right thing (if she wants to be yours, she mate guards herself). Also, when somebody attacks you, call the police immediately - that's what you're paying them for (literally).

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You did not do the right thing.

Words are just words. As long as he's keeping his hands to himself and staying out of your social space, let him yap. Agree and amplify if he persists from a distance, but do not escalate. Talk is cheap, so you aren't losing face by letting a guy run his mouth.

The only time you should physically intervene is when he tries to enter your social space (e.g. your personal space, your girl's personal space).

Most importantly, make sure you have won the fight before it begins. Become friends with the bouncer and bartender, and ideally the owner if possible. Build synchronicity with your friends and have them flank the sucker while you hold his attention.

[–]ReddJive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Echoing what /u/humansockpuppet said but I’ll also add

MMA is all the rage these days. The trouble with MMA and BJJ is that they rarely teach the one real reality of a self defense situation.

You don’t know the training nor capability of your opponent.

Is he a hardened criminal? You’d be shocked to know you can’t just tell who they are. Some yes. Many no.

Is the guy an amateur MMA fighter? A few clues but really you don’t know.

Is he a successful psycho? Meaning he’s never been caught yet?

No idea.

You played the game for keeps and lost. Learn from it and move on.

[–]PatnarDannesman-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Always be ready for a fight. Wogs are notorious for this behaviour. Their gutless greasy friend will sneak up behind you and king hit you. Be ready for that. As soon as you see them out of the corner of your eye an elbow in the throat is the best way to stop the behind one and then just start going hell for leather on the one that made the cat call. They're actually that stupid they don't see it coming. You know they're a bunch of gutless greasy fgts so no harm just starting it.

[–]mrHappyPotatoe-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wing chun says real fight lasts about 9 seconds. You can keep your enemy at arms reach if you know what you are doing. Arms lenght i mean arm fully extended with fingers ... Fingers extended to the eyes. Or just kick him to the nuts.

That post reminds me though to get back to mma or some street fight training.

Ah... One more thing if it goes showdown then step to the grass you dont want to hit the asphalt.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone who does some silly shit like that in public is looking to fight. There is zero reason to engage unless you are too, and if you are going into it with that attitude then there is no reason to talk, is there? Just get up and kick his fucking teeth in.

Now that isnt my suggestion. I am just saying you stupidly walked into a clear invite to fight thinking words were going to solve it. They never were.

To my thinking the person you talk to is your girl. You make a joke to her like "He's trying to find something to think about when they buttfuck each other after their date." Or "that little dude is fucking bitter some men take out real women and he is dating his gaming bro"

The idea is you want her to visibly laugh at something the asshole doesnt know what you said. Then you get the manager and tell him you arent paying if he cant control harassment in his own place. If they arent thrown out you take her and leave without paying.

Another option after you make light of it to her is to tell her these punks are clearly looking for a fight and if they get within 5 feet of you, like they get up and approach the table, her job is to call 911. If they do that, the fight is on. If someone is trying to provoke you, fails, and then moves into your space you have to react because it is on and you cant defuse it with words at that point. Fight dirty. Forget this sucker punch bullshit you have in your head.

Avoid the problem if at all possible but if they are cutting off your options with clear intent to fight do not wait to get hit first.

As to the frame thing you can take a beating in front of your woman as long as you seem in control. That's why you explain to her the situation and her job. You do your best to navigate her out of it without violence, and of the other guys make that impossible you have a plan.

Your mistake here was misreading the dipshits intent and having poor understanding of what was important. Their words could be ignored but their actions couldnt. You let their words provoke you to action but when the guy stood up you let him strike first.

Priority one is let's create distance so these fools can find their trouble elsewhere. Priority 2 is defend yourself if they make that impossible. None of that involves a conversation with them.

[–]BurnieSlander-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You talked too much. Some guy harasses your girl, the next words out of his mouth better be an apology. Otherwise he should end up on the floor with a few less teeth than before.

I disagree with what others are saying about ignoring/not falling into his frame. Addressing blatant disrespect is not losing frame. Being a coward and pretending it didn’t happen is weak.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Carry weapons. Guns, knives, doesn't matter. And USE THEM. SHOOT THEM. SLICE THEM TO RIBBONS. DOESN'T MATTER WHO.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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