OLTRâs are only for older men with higher levels of game.
OLTRâs are hard. OLTRâs are complicated. Managing an OLTR requires strong game, a solid frame, confidence, outcome independence, and a decent amount of experience with women, and not just pick-up experience, but relationship experience as well. A game beginner is not going to have these things. A young man is very unlikely to have these things (he may have some of them, but not all).
Therefore, an OLTR is only for men who are a little older and who have a decent level of game and relationship skill. Iâve said it before, and today Iâll say it more clearly – no man should even think about having an OLTR until he is at least 30 years old. 35 is even better. As I explained here, I donât consider most modern-day men as full adults until age 34 anyway. (I really hate saying that, but itâs the truth. Western cultural collapse and all that.)
These two requirements, that you are at least a little older and have a stronger level of game and woman experience, answer a lot of objections, questions, and misunderstandings Iâve seen some of you raise regarding OLTRâs. Hereâs just a few examples from the last few years:
1. How the hell is a younger couple supposed to do the things you suggest??? Like have a separate residence or whatever???
A younger man shouldnât be part of a couple. A younger man should not get married. A younger man should not have children. In my strong opinion, a younger man shouldnât even have a girlfriend, monogamous or not. An OLTR is a girlfriend, thus a younger man should not have one.
Men under 30 should instead spend their time getting laid, having fun, playing round with FBâs and MLTRâs, and focusing on building their businesses. A girlfriend, even an open one like an OLTR, destroys all of that, nor will a younger man have the ability to successfully manage such a relationship.
I always cringe whenever I see a guy in his twenties on a blog or message board announce that he has an OLTR or worse, a monogamous girlfriend. I know itâs going to blow up in his face. You donât want things blowing up in your face when youâre in your twenties. Use that time to be free, have fun, get laid, and get shit done, not have a girlfriend, and certainly not have a wife.
Have a wife in your fucking twenties? Having kids in your fucking twenties? Are you fucking kidding me? I made that mistake when I was a young, stupid, inexperienced, naïve beta male with no real internet and no resources to learn about these things. Learn from my mistake so you donât make the same one. Donât have a girlfriend when youâre under 30, OLTR or not. Wait until youâre ideally 35. I never had anything that even looked like an OLTR until I was in my late thirties, by choice.
2. Itâs going to be harder to get new FBâs when you have an OLTR because you already have a girlfriend and theyâll know it!!!
Yes, the difficulty bar is raised in this area. Thatâs exactly why you should not have an OLTR until you have very strong game. If you have strong game, this wonât be a big problem. If you have weak or intermediate game, this could be a serious problem, thus you would not have an OLTR until such time as your game gets stronger and you can bring in new FBâs as needed despite the increased difficulty of doing so.
3. Itâs going to be harder to keep FBâs around longer because theyâll know you have a girlfriend!!!
The easiest solution to this (besides just paying for it, which is certainly an option for older guys) is to try to stick with FBâs who already have boyfriends themselves. I think you should do this anyway, since âtakenâ FBâs are always the best FBâs to have, regardless of if you have an OLTR or not.
But if you canât / wonât do this, yeah, some FBâs wonât last as long when they know youâre already taken. That means you should not get into an OLTR until youâve built up a strong number of FBâs on your roster. Most of these women wonât care that you have a girlfriend/wife now. But if you arenât experienced enough where you havenât built up such a roster, youâre probably not experienced enough to have an OLTR yet, and should hold off until you do.
And again, acquiring new FBâs wonât be nearly as big of a problem if you are very game experienced, so this shouldnât be a concern.