⦠is quality. I was over at puahate.com (a fucking hilariously negative site) yesterday and enjoyed it immensely. These guys are pretty fucking far from the âhave a positive frame, dudeâ attitude of most PUAs and itâs refreshing to see people liberated from the chains of repercussions for PUAthoughtcrime.

Donât get me wrong â you wonât learn any game from this site. If you focus on it youâll really miss all of the tremendous value that the good sites can give you. What puahate does well is provide a little counterbalance, a little tug back in the direction of honesty for the charlatans of the seduction community. They overdo it, but hereâs what I like about it:

  • Members post photos of PUA gurus with their girlfriends, including candid shots that havenât been cherry-picked and airbrushed for promotional purposes. I was rather alarmed at how skanky some of the âHB9sâ some major community names are cavorting with. Girls I wouldnât even waste an apocalypse opener on.
  • Product reviews from dissatisfied customers. We all get to see the hyperbole in the advertising copy but negative reviews are rare because the sellers usually control the gatekeeping and the independent forums are too easily hijacked by both haters and stooges.
  • Open discussion of charlatanry and fakes. Opinions vary but thereâs real money at stake and as a customer you should expect quality control.

Hereâs my rough back-of-the-envelope estimate of the marketplace: In any major Western city there are six or so competing pick up companies. Thereâll be three international brands or affiliates (a LoveSystems, RSD, Venusian Arts etc) at sky-high prices, one local dominant player (in London thatâs PUATraining) at a discount to the big brands but still a *cough* premium product, a couple of cheaper independents (in London thatâs PUAMethod, RockSolidGame etc) and maybe some tiny one-man bands.

A couple of those six companies will be half-arsed local affiliates that fly in coaches based elsewhere and thus the quality varies greatly on when you do it and who is available. Thereâs certainly no crew vibe. A couple of the others will offer a consistent product from one month to the next but wild inconsistency between instructors (who mostly freelance) â thereâs usually one (maybe two) âstarâ instructors that provide all the value and then a bunch of make-weights and pretenders. If you get winged by the star, lucky you. No, Iâm not naming names. Though Iâm gradually learning the London scene Iâll keep it to myself who I think are fakes and who I have enormous respect for.

Iâll give you a hint: The guys who shout loud about being hot shit while also completely failing to post infield evidence â these are the frauds.

Anyway, I digress. My main take-away from puahate is this: There are very very few genuine players in the community, guys who are banging consistently hot girls on a consistent basis. The corollary is: Most of these guys arenât charging £1,000 a pop to show you how. Some are entirely non-commerical.

Thereâs a reason most PUAs donât post videos or photos. It would explode the credibility theyâve spent months and months building and shatter their egos. Students would think âwhat the fuck can this guy teach me?â. Itâs not difficult â I mean, how hard is it to put a little camera in your pocket for daygame, or to snap a photo of your SNL the next morning after sheâs slapped her make up on?

Insist on the evidence, folks. The truth will set you free.

Full disclosure: I am not one of that select few legit players. You can see exactly where I’m at from the videos on here.