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Why You Should NOT Make Him Wait to Sleep With You

Lucio Buffalmano
February 25, 2018

Should you make him wait to sleep with you?

If you listen to all the popular dating advice, you should, yes.

The problem with that advice?
It’s nothing more than platitudes and authors’ opinions.

This article will investigate the topic with data and psychology to provide you with a better answer.
And by the end of it, you will know whether or not you should make him wait for sex.

What The Dating Advice Says

Let him wait for sex.

It’s the battle cry that all the dating best sellers for women chant in unison.

It’s a long list with the same message, but here’s some of the most popular titles:

King suggests 60 days minimum; Lambert says get a relationship before sex; Harvey has a 90 days rule; some other author go indefinite with “as long as you can”.

And in the meanwhile?
All say you focus on getting as much investment as possible.

But why?

The Case For Making Him Wait

The idea of letting him wait for sex is not totally wrong.

It’s based on the theory that men want quick sex and women want relationships.
And, albeit it’s a generalization, there is also quite some truth there.

When you give quick sex, most guides say, men get what they want and have less interest in sticking around.
And plus, some authors say, men despise “easy” women.

Letting him wait for sex works magic both on you and on him:

What Waiting Does For You

  1. Protect your feelings (men don’t bond as much through sex)
  2. Filters for serious men (theory being that players won’t wait)
  3. Keeps you in control (he’s like the dog waiting for the treat)

What Waiting Does For Him

  1. He sees you as “serious” long term material (based on the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy)
  2. The more he invests, the more likely he stays after sex (and rationalizes he must like you)

What Happens When You Make Him Wait

The advice of letting him invest works well on paper.

It is founded on solid psychology principles and in some environment and situations, it might indeed be the best way to go (more on it later).

Here is the science behind the advice of letting him wait to sleep with you:

1. He Likes You Because You’re Scarce

It’s true that people value what’s scarce.

Especially when it’s scarce because of high demand from others (scarcity principle, Cialdini).
This a general rule that few human beings escape.

2. He Likes You Because He Invests

Several studies confirm that we like more people for whom we invest, and not people who invest in us.

This one of the consequences of cognitive dissonance (Festinger, 1985), which postulate that people often back-rationalize based on their actions (also see Aronson, 1972)
In simple words, he (unconsciously) thinks:

I am investing in her and sticking around even without getting the ultimate prize… Then it means I must really like her.

In that sense, the more he invests without pay-off, the more he values you.

3. You Look More ” Good Girl”

And it’s true that many (most?) men think along the Madonna/Whore Dichotomy (The Moral Animal by Robert Wright).

It even affects most men who say they are not affected by that line of thinking.

So in that sense, not getting too wild, too soon, might help you to stay away from the whore side of the dichotomy.

However, there is a negative side of this equation.
The negative side is the exact same as the positive one: that he will see you as the good, “serious” girl.

Many a man pay prostitutes because they have a mindset that they “can’t do that with their wives”.

Not good.
Ideally you want a man who sees you for who you really are. A woman with her own defects, needs and sexuality.

4. You Keep Bargaining Power

We could argue that “having power” might not be the best approach to a relationship.

But if we embrace that theory of sex as an arms’ race between genders, than holding onto the sex card will give you more bargaining power indeed.

I’m not a big fan of the power argument, though.
And not on the ground of morality. But if your main power is sex, then you lose all your power the moment you have sex.
Trust me, you don’t want to be the lady whose only allure is sex.

So there are many reasons why letting him wait to sleep with you is good.

Why do I urge you to consider to not to let him wait, instead?

Because the theory is based on average men and on specific situations.
And if you want more than average, then you must learn the exceptions.

So the most important questions become:

  1. When does it work?
  2. Who does it work with?

Let’s see.

It Works in Some Cultures

I make a long dissertation on the economics of sex here:

But here’s the short of it:

When there are more men than women, the culture and the dating dynamics naturally shift towards a romantic, courtship style of dating with men trying to woo women over the long haul.

That means that when (good quality) women are scarce, you should let him wait.

When there are more women than men, the culture devolves into more of a hookup culture.
In highly libertine cultures, men and women are viewed as more similar, and men aren’t ready, prepared and willing to do the long-courtship thing.
Even men looking for relationships tend to end up with women who help him along the dating process.
The most successful women focus on moving forward together instead of “getting as much as possible” while giving as little as possible.

That means that when (good quality) women are abundant, waiting games are more likely to backfire.

You should know that in our current environment, especially in the West, good quality women (far) outstrip good quality men.
Also read “successful women dating“.

Now on the second biggest issue with longer waiting times:

It Works With Average Guys..

Letting him wait to sleep with you while chipping in little in during the courtship process can create a highly unbalanced relationship.

He invests time, money and effort while you receive and (purposefully) withhold the biggest fruit of love.
Who do you think is going to stick around with that sucker’s deal?

Millionaires globetrotting the world?
Entrepreneurs building companies?
Driven men too busy to make their dreams a reality?

Usually not. Higher quality men demand a balance in the relationship (Equity Theory of Love).

But worry not, middle of the pack men will be more than happy to provide and wait for some P.
These are the guys most likely to be OK with the short-changing tactics of letting him wait for as long as possible.

Here’s an example from “Crazy, Stupid, Love”, a scene that always makes me smile:

It’s the average man who “think he did everything right” and was happy to wait.
The cool guy knew better.

Some of the authors do understand the principle, albeit they don’t apply it.
Kara King, one of the biggest proponent of delayed sex and high investment, writes in The Power of The Pussy (I paraphrase):

It’s a clear sign you should break up with a guy when you invest a lot in him while he doesn’t invest in you

I wonder why then she expects men to accept the same?
Indeed the same author a few pages later says you should “lower your expectations”.
Because, she says:

“a perfect 10” would never open the door for you or do all the nice things for you.

So if a perfect 10 would never invest too much, who would?

If you focus on controlling men… You get easy to control men (not cream of the crop)

In short:

The bad men will stick around.
And the best ones…

… And the Best Ones Will Disappear

The law of social exchange says that no relationship can stay out of balance for too long.

Eventually, you have to reach an equilibrium.

See where I’m going?

If the guy you’re seeing has very little to offer compared to you, he’ll invest a lot.
And wait.

Because he needs to make up for that imbalance.

But of course, women want guys who are “better”.
And high-quality men are least likely to accept those unbalanced relationships.
With those guys, you should aim more for a balance.

Bruce Bryan of Never Chase Men Again is one of the few authors of women’s dating books who gets this point.
He says:

High quality men have little tolerance for egocentric women.
Asking for the moon will not make you sound like a prize but like an entitled princess on a pea

-from “Never Chase Men Again”

And entitlement is a typical trait of low quality women.

Smart men know how to treat you based on who you are and how much they like you, says Bryan.
And he adds that men with a backbone are annoyed when you need to remind them.

Bryan is right.

And indeed, those men with a backbone will flee very soon if you demand without giving.
And withhold sex as a bargaining chip is part and parcel of that mentality of “get without giving”.

Top Guys Despise The Waiting Game

One other issue with the “waiting game” is exactly just that: the “game” part of the equation.

Some games are good and helpful.
But the waiting game is not a good type of game because it seeks control.

And the best guys are not cool with being controlled.

Smart Men Know There Is No Link Between “Waiting Time” and “Piety”

Experienced or more socially aware guys know better.

They know the relation between “slow to sex” and “Madonna” has more holes than an Italian mama colander.

They know some of the quickest sex happens with inexperienced women and women without second motives -women whom don’t play games-.

And when they see a girl who’s otherwise been around putting the breaks on them, they’ll think:

Experienced Man Thinking: She’s sampled around, she’s probably had a few lusty encounters… And now she wants to put me under the yoke and pretend she’s a good gal? 

And while some might be OK with that, some others will resent you.
And they’ll plot to wait and then bounce.

See Samantha’s comment on guys disappearing after 10th date sex).

Some other guys might see through it, but for whatever reason still accept it.
However the relationship won’t be built on the solid foundations of full sincerity.

Late Sex Means No Chemistry

And finally we get to talk about sex.

What does waiting for sex say about sex?

Matthew Hussey in Get The Guy writes that sex should happen after an emotional connection has taken place -albeit he adds that’s unlikely to happen on a first date-.

And then he says something even smarter, which I paraphrase:

Waiting too long is a mistake because he will feel like he’s not important to you sexually.
And men do get their validation through sex

That much is true.

The longer you wait, the more you communicate that you’re not so attracted to him.
When you wait too long for sex, your relationship resembles more of a friendship.
And that’s not really a dream start, is it?

Then one day he sees a woman looking at him with lusty eyes and he’ll wonder… Damn!
Maybe it’s just my partner who’s a little bit of a frigid?

It Doesn’t Work in Difficult Markets

I define “difficult markets” as environments with an abundance of great women and not many great guys.

Jon Birger in Date-onomics makes a good case that most women with a degree in the west are in difficult markets simply because there aren’t that many well educated men.

When good female prospects outnumber men, men tend to become more promiscuous and to expect early sex as part of the deal.
Most women might recoil in disgust here, and I get you. I would react the exact same way.

However, that doesn’t it make it any less true. And as Ray Dalio says, we can all only gain from looking at reality as it is.

And the reality is that if there are more equally great women available, it’s fair to expect some of them will sleep with him sooner and some will sleep with him later.

And who do you think he is more likely to end up in a relationship with?
It’s the woman he is having sex with, of course.

When Sex Means Relationship

For most high-quality modern women this it:

Chances are higher that the woman who moves the slowest will be passed up for the woman with whom he’s having sex with.

Game theory proves that the more forward women are the ones who get the guy.

And so does simple rationality.
It’s a simple law of momentum and path of least resistance.

He can meet one woman and he needs to court her, bring flowers and then… Then nothing, he goes home and masturbate.
Or he can meet another woman, enjoy sex, cook a meal together, watch a movie in bed and be his real self (because men are always more natural and relaxed when sex has already happened).

Who do you he is more likely to end up in a relationship with?

And you can check out my own example from my last relationship.

What’s The Alternative?

Now a note:

Don’t get this article wrong.
It’s not to say you should rush. Wait as long as you are comfortable with.

But if you are convinced you want to delay sex, then I would strongly recommend you decouple sex as a bargaining chip to ask for his investment.

Do it like this:

1. Keep The Relationship Balanced

Keep the relationship somewhat balanced.

If he does something nice for you or both of you, appreciate and give back. That’s the best way to advance a healthy relationship: in lockstep.

And to delay sex effectively here are a few techniques:

2. You Really Like Him – And Want to Take it Slow

Absolutely the best to make him wait. It’s sincere, it builds him up and it deepens your connection all at the same time.

And that’s a huge step towards a relationship.

Watch her execute it to perfection:


YB has strict policy and that video has been removed.
Please leave a comment if you’d like to see it and  Imight load on a personal sorage.

3. Show The Light At The End of The Tunnel

Say you’re not ready but it will happen soon.

For more, you can read How to Reject Him Properly.

Or alternatively:

4. Make Sex a Pleasurable, Guilt-Free Experience

The Tao of Dating is possibly the best dating book for women.

In there, Aziz recommends you don’t follow any rules but listen to yourself and decide accordingly.

Indeed, great initial sex sends a strong, powerful signal of strong chemistry.

It will show an honest and sincere attraction from your side and, of course, men too love to feel wanted.
A woman who lives in the now and can enjoy the beautiful things of life.

My Personal Take
This is just me, I’m not pretending to speak for everyone here, but the only relationships I’ve been in started with an early bang.
All the rest felt dull to me.

5. Best of Both World: Early Sex & Serious Girl

This is important: if you do early sex well, it’s also possible to enjoy the sex, make him feel great and also don’t come across as “easy”.

The secret is to alternate resistance to sex with moments of abandon.

Basically, you have to make him feel like you are very attracted to him.
You want to resist -like you usually do-, but he’s just so hot and he’s doing it so well… That eventually, finally.. You relent.

But just for him ;).

I call this the “Madonna-whore seduction”.

For more details, read:


Most -basically all- the dating books for women tell you two things: let him wait for sex as much as possible and make him invest as much as possible.

That’s how you get a guy to stick around, provide and pamper, is the message.

In this article I show you that principle doesn’t work in environments with lots of good female prospects.
And when you hook some guy in with the “let him wait game”, it might not be the boyfriend you really want.

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Title Why You Should NOT Make Him Wait to Sleep With You
Author Lucio Buffalmano
Date February 25, 2018 8:51 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Blog The Power Moves
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