What causes men to be romantics and women to be realists? and why does it seem like the opposite?

resnine · 2018-06-16T05:04:01+00:00

they understand status, money, power, control, sex, love, societal rules

They don't understand it; it's innate to them.

Red pilled men understand it and can articulate it but most men (blue-pilled) only having a nagging feeling of what looks, wealth, and status truly represent.

Women are realists in that they don't settle down out of "love". They settle down after they have weighed out every variable in their mind: their looks and age (can I do better before my looks start to fade), his looks, status, wealth. This is a subconscious process. Men usually settle down out of scarcity or to fulfill some blue-pilled ideal of having a soulmate that society has socially conditioned into them from the moment they popped out of a vagina.

and why does it seem like the opposite?

It seems like the opposite of this because women are very machiavellian and want you to think they believe in "love" when really they're just trying to extract the best genes and resources from men whom they view as little more than useful idiots.

Whisper · 2018-06-16T08:15:09+00:00

People get good at what they have to be good at to survive and prosper.

Men are good at creating things. Women are good at manipulating men.

909throwaway100 · 2018-06-16T05:09:34+00:00

Yes as rollo says: men are romantics pretending to be idealists and woman are idealists pretending to be Romantics.

It is this way because women pretend to be to romantics and use love as a weapon to draw men in that they think are a good hypergamous opportunity.

Read the sidebar articles: men in love, women in love. It goes into more detail about the opportunistic, idealist nature of women.

Self-honest · 2018-06-16T05:54:56+00:00

Red pill is code word for reality. You only need a red pill if you have been given a blue pill. Men are fed blue pills because they are capable. Blue pills exist to control and balance the scale. Who needs more balancing?

mrrooftops · 2018-06-16T11:10:24+00:00

Maybe because in ALL OTHER walks of life it's the other way round.

[deleted] · 2018-06-16T10:55:17+00:00

The fact of men being romantics derives from the past two centuries, so I believe it's a bit ingrained in culture. However you can care about a woman without being romantic, those are two different things. Women are romantics, in the sense that they idealized their perfect man, it's just that the average romantic man doesn't reach her expectations. Put a woman in front of Henry Cavill acting romantic and then tell me she won't try to fuck him. It's not always because they are machiavellian/evil or some other shit, it's just nature

ManguZa · 2018-06-16T12:03:33+00:00

Evolutionary psychology, females choose their male because ONS mean a potential pregnancy. Males don't choose but compet for female, when they have only one option they invest all their emotions on her and trap themselves.

Monk2chad · 2018-06-16T13:32:30+00:00

the core of a man is woman core of woman is man - ancient shaman

friendandadvisor · 2018-06-16T14:21:44+00:00

No answer for part 1.

For part 2, see Shakespeare: "Friendship is constant in all other things, save in the office and affairs of love". Men are totally realistic in all things...except for love.

chazthundergut · 2018-06-16T15:05:27+00:00

Biological necessity.

Think about the world we evolved in.

Men needed to believe in more. We needed to put our women and children first. We needed to invest our lives into the people we love.

Women needed to be ruthless and cold and calculating. They needed to be the pragmatists of our species. They needed to be able to "lightswitch" to a new man after their tribe got taken over.

[deleted] · 2018-06-16T16:20:30+00:00

Deep in the wiring the women have to be prepared to care for children over a long period of time as well as face multiple changes of regime, because men do the craziest shit to survive. That evolved hypergamy and an innate ruthlessness.

Men have to be prepared to do the wildest shit imaginable to get ahead or for the tribe to get ahead. That takes romantic sentiment. That takes a higher purpose.

Notice that in romantic fantasy both genders tend to go for the fantasy that would prevent them from having to exist that way. Men go for the continually available whore virgin that loves them no matter what. Women go for the all powerful but all nurturing alpha-beta who they would never need to trade up from.

kyzen142 · 2018-06-16T16:56:25+00:00

Well a man in the hunter gatherer needs to believe that his wife is in loved and devoted to him that if goes away to hunt and gather food for a couple days she want cheat on him or run away with another dude thats why it is a turn on to us when a woman says " I am yours ". But to women Rollo has talked about this mwn are more prone to die because of war/hunting/gathering food/exploring new territories for new resources and these territories could belong to a different trip. So men are more likely to die. Also, women want secure the best man that can provide to them and their children so when you lose a job or go broke they lose attraction to you and therefore lose any sense of affection to you. Remember the pre-requizate for a woman's intimacy to a man is that they first have to be attracted to them and if she loses attraction to you she won't feel shit towards you.

ppanthero · 2018-06-16T17:03:10+00:00

My take: its our nature. Women are physically inferior. That means they have to be rational and calculating and even manipulating in a social sense to gain resources, protection or power.

deville05 · 2018-06-16T18:23:26+00:00

I think women created the need in men for power and status. he who women were attracted to was assumed to have power and status and men went about trying to get some of that to get some of that. money is just a means of getting power and status.I think men are in denial of reality.. I dont think they know that they did it all for the nookie

Quantum_Jiraiya · 2018-06-16T05:00:56+00:00

This just isn’t a thing. If you look at instagram and think the people on there (majority women) surround themselves with harsh truths and realities you are wrong.

Fun2badult · 2018-06-16T08:08:23+00:00

Women are like pets m. They only care about the immediate satisfaction. Once they have that, they don’t give a shit

Title	What causes men to be romantics and women to be realists? and why does it seem like the opposite?
Author	resnine
Upvotes	20
Comments	35
Date	June 16, 2018 3:57 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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