CMV: Redpill is not an ally to monogamy or romance especially in youths

NockerJoe · 2022-11-02T21:04:33+00:00

Their motto is "enjoy the decline". They don't care if its fair, they just don't take any responsibility for what sort of relationships are socially acceptable and whats considered morally good or not. The entire point of calling non promiscuous women unicorns is to say the women they want are rare bordering on impossible to get and getting them later or at all shouldn't be a primary goal.

Which makes sense since anyone that needs to be told this shit and read a fucking guide isn't having casual sex to begin with but also not exactly getting chaste girls either.

Theres also the fact that trying to impose how you think relationships "should" go won't work. If this was a change you COULD push for they already would have, but life doesn't work that way. A lot of people already prefer short term or casual or poly and trying to get in their business is not anyones job. If you can't make monogamy appeal to them with state sponsored tax benefits and a big party to make it official a bunch of nerds on reddit won't swing it any more. Enjoy the circumstance for what it is and don't act like an old church lady trying to enforce social standards.

tempbannedgastonist · 2022-11-02T21:31:18+00:00

a lot of red pillers believe in enjoying the decline, as far as they see it hookup culture and casual sex have already killed love and monogamy, so why not get whats yours

beleidigtewurst · 2022-11-02T20:22:27+00:00

OK, to whom it may concern, a bit of actual FACTS:

Better-Educated Women Still Prefer Higher-Earning Husbands

...women continue to marry up in income, especially when they are more educated than their husbands.

Society still doesn't like the idea of stay-at-home dads

...suddenly the woman is working really, really hard and thinks the husband is sitting around with his feet up, and the man has seen his career fold and his ego is mush."

Remember all that "hard work at home"? See what happens to it being "hard" when it's man being the "housewive"? Curious phenomena, ain't it?

Bubbly_Taro · 2022-11-02T20:25:28+00:00

This post could use 3 paragraphs.

You can believe that you should live monogamy when you are in a committed relationship and consider being promiscuous before that fair game.

Your point of hypocrisy is irrelevant. Everyone is a hypocrite to some extend. The only people that say otherwise don't recognize their own hypocrisy. Plus you can be a shithead and still make others think you are virtuous.

As for "Betraying the values of "monogamy and romance", this point is incredibly vague. Plus these concepts only have as much value as a human ascribes to them. Person A being a manwhore fucking 10 virgins a day does not decrease the meaning of these words for person B.

mumblebumblegrumble · 2022-11-02T21:21:41+00:00

I don't know to what extent this ideal is redpill, any way, the ideal for men seems to be men being able to have casual sex in their youth with prime age women(18 to 30) until they are ready to settle down in their 30s, also with a prime age woman(18 to 30) that has a low to 0 body count.

This does not seem possible given the female population.

Haunting_Afternoon62 · 2022-11-03T05:32:11+00:00

This is probably why it takes so long for men to get their act together and settle down. They haven't figured out what it takes to have a successful relationship because they weren't having any. The maturity is 10 years behind.

LiLaLauneLain · 2022-11-02T21:03:33+00:00

Red pill is an eye-opener. Most women in their youth are not looking for a monogamy romance. They want their hoe phase with toxic assholes that are 'interestsing' . Men need red pill to understand that it is not their failure, it is just how (most) women are. So stop working on your carrer and yourself while staying on the sideline until these women are ready to settle. Become the toxic assholes they are so desperately looking for. As a man that made this exact failure I wish for nothing more thean turning time back and having these Infos I have today in my early 20's.

w1se_old_tree · 2022-11-03T01:00:51+00:00

Redpill is not an ally to monogamy or romance

Yeah no shit Sherlock.

it encourages men to be promiscuous in their youths and settle down with a women who isn't promiscuous

It encourages men to be promiscuous and keep their options open their entire sexually active lives, and discourages "settling down" with a woman. It especially discourages marriage. It seems clear to me that you haven't even read TRP content and base your views of TRP off of what it's detractors say.

prizefighterstudent · 2022-11-06T07:32:08+00:00

I came upon the RP in my first-year of college after a string of hook-ups then coming up dry. I was pretty impressed with the knowledge, and like many, not satisfied with my dating life. I found many of the tactics worked, and even if they didn't, they were presented in a logical way.

At the same time, I have witnessed the fall of the RP in real time. Tons of "gurus" and PUA's have been exposed, the "wall" certainly isn't as real as it's made out to be, and treating women like shit to open their legs up is a wild card at best, and only works for Chads at its worst.

But perhaps the biggest proof of the RP's failure has been the exodus into these tangential communities, including PPD, the blackpill, and self-improvement. It turns out that:

Looks are swiftly becoming the most significant factor when it comes to dating
Treating dating in a reactionary, selfish, and transactional way that dehumanizes women isn't the move for a vast majority of guys, and certainly not conducive to happy relationships

I have hope for most dudes based on my travels, but things are not looking great for the average man in the West. These dudes will continue to find and buy into the RP because it keeps them angry and keeps them focused. As OP alluded to: RP was never meant to fix the problem, and is rather a symptom of a very sick culture which simultaneously pedestalizes and demonizes male sexual activity at every nook and cranny.

Laytheblameonluck · 2022-11-02T22:50:50+00:00

So Red Pill isn't TradCon?

Well yeah, we've been saying that.

bigdaveyl · 2022-11-02T23:12:15+00:00

You do realize that men and women are wired differently in regards to sex?

I'm not advocating poor behavior but it's not true hypocrisy either.

happy-doofus · 2022-11-02T23:02:06+00:00

If men and women have psychological and physiological differences, then prescribing different behavior isn't inherently hypocritical.

"Hookup culture" is just women being women. Maybe 5% of men participate. So don't go blaming TRP for the invention of birth control.

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Bubbly_Taro · 2022-11-03T05:04:24+00:00

woman ditched monogamy until it suits them, we men just adjust

OwOFemboyUwU · 2022-11-04T21:08:54+00:00

“Romance” is a scam for men, and it seems you fell for it. The redpill is simply trying to show you that.

Romance consists of elaborate courtship rituals to woo the other, and women do pretty much no courtship - the entire burden of it falls on men. It’s more accurate to say men do the romancing while women get romanced - why would a man want this deal if he can get the same benefit without the cost of “doing the romancing”?

CMV: Redpill is not an ally to monogamy or romance especially in youths

Remember all that "hard work at home"? See what happens to it being "hard" when it's man being the "housewive"? Curious phenomena, ain't it?

Reality doesn't care about dubious theories of nazi minded people incapable of discourse

The higher the husbands income, the higher the chances of woman shrinking her working hours or quitting job altogether

Title	CMV: Redpill is not an ally to monogamy or romance especially in youths
Author	roseonyxa
Upvotes	46
Comments	164
Date	November 2, 2022 8:16 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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