How to get over a stolen youth?

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October 20, 2018
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Never really had a childhood. Parents forced me to work for their business for no pay, while other kids were doing fun things like hanging out, having sex etc. I had to do bullshit manual labor from when I was like 10 throughout a lot of my teens. Was always broke never had any money or any way to get around. My teeth were fucked up and crooked/rotting so confidence took a plummet, my teeth are still fucked up. Moved out some years ago and just bin grinding since then just barely getting by, I'm 21 virgin and been depressed for so long after a wasted youth. I might be getting a sorta big influx of cash soon and will finally be able to get my crooked/rotting teeth fixed. Face wise I'm very good looking so it's really my extremely fucked up teeth holding my back and my depression.

But even if I do get that shit fixed I'll still have missed out on all those teenage years, never had any of those fun experiences and it fucking kills me. Even if I do get my teeth fixed and start fucking and having some relationships I would be starting at 21/22 that is kind of depressing for me. What do I do even when I get with a girl and the past comes up, I literally did nothing in my past except get abused by my parents, live a shitty poor lifestyle and be depressed. I guess I don't mind telling a girl this cause I am more of an outcast then a loser and it will help her understand why I have no friends and don't talk to my family. Still so depressed though from missing out on childhood and young experiences even whenever I try to work I always think of this shit and being a virgin at 21 and never having a relationship, it completely destroys my ability to work and I end up not being able to think about work cause this is all I think about. How can I get over a stolen youth?


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Title How to get over a stolen youth?
Author dobbekz
Upvotes 59
Comments 118
Date 20 October 2018 01:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askTRP
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[–]Olram_Sacul72 points73 points  (17 children) | Copy

Been there, man. You need to get over it. The past is already gone and you must not let shitty experiences control your present.

I have quite abusive parents and lost my virginity in my 20's. I was bullied and shit too. But at some point I stopped giving a fuck about this and just accepting that there are some things that I'll never experience, like teenage love, but it is what it is. You can't do anything about it. You need to move on, embrace the present and think about the future. Something that really helps me is learning about people who had very tough experiences in life, like forced to go to war, being in a nazi camp or just reading how was life in the 1800's or earlier. That's tough shit. It sucks to see that you missed out some stuff and everyone else was having fun while you are fucked up, but life's not fair and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. My relationship with my parents always has been shit, actually I moved to a different country because of that, but that has helped me not to give a fuck about pretty much anything and acknowledge that I need to make it happen on my own.

I would recommend you to listen to Jocko Willink's podcast because I find it very helpful in many ways. He usually starts reading a excerpt of some book about war, for instance the diary of a prisoner of war, so you realise that your life is not as miserable as you think, that it always can be worse, and you should be grateful for this and make the most of your abilities to build a meaningful life, and then he explains how you can have a strong mindset that helps you to go through life. One of his quotes is "don't ask yourself 'why me?', ask yourself 'what can I do to make it happen?'"

I hope it helps

[–]Spilledmychips10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hear hear

The dots never line up looking forward only looking back.

start moving toward what you want . Not away from what you don’t.

[–]traveldeedee2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have identical life experience. I moved to a different country too. And I’ve started a business using my anger as motivation.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (11 children) | Copy

Thanks a lot man you are one of the only people that didn't insult me. The thing is though this is all I think about now I can't stop thinking about it. Like I said face wise I'm good looking (if you wonder why I don't approach girls my teeth are extremely crooked and this has resulted in me not being able to brush them properly and they are sort of rotting, my mouse now gives off a horrible stench and can smell sickening so approaching girls and even talking to people is really out of the question)

so I made a tinder and started talking to some girls, I started asking them when they lost their virginity when they had their first relationship etc. A lot of girls lost their virginity at like 14-16 and then when they told me about their relationships this really killed me. Girls were telling me about how they had relationships at 14 years old already and all the fun they had... Imagine having a loving relationship starting at the right age and living a happy fulfilling life, imagine the summer romances they had, the young love it fucking destroys me. Imagine getting your driver license and car at 16 and cruising around with your crush, taking each others virginity and remembering each other forever. I thought about that so much and how they had a beautiful youth and how I missed out, it's making me suicidal. I thought about what they told me and I almost fucking cried myself to sleep all night trashing in my bed and crying in fucking pain about what I had missed and been denied.

I'm happy you move on and were able to move to a new country and doing better. I did a similar thing but still extremely depressed constantly. Once I get enough money to fix my teeth though I think I will start doing much better. And yeah good idea on recommending that reading about others that have suffered worse actually helps me to realize my life isn't to bad but still I can't hold back the pain sometimes. Do you have other methods for how I can take all this off my mind and be more positive?

[–]disgruntledearthling5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

I had shitty teeth too until recently. You can get ahead of the problem by flossing , brushing, and rinsing with Listerine twice a day religiously. Then you need to get to a dentist to patch up whatever is eating at your teeth. A healthy diet (no sugary drinks, candy, etc.) will stabilize this situation.

There are women out there that don't give teeth a priority - you just need to find them somehow. Although I was BP, I managed to get laid but several women and raise two daughters with my shitty teeth - so it's not a death sentence.

The crookedness can be fixed - I just finished Invisilign and it was great. Cost about 12k but I also bought stock in the company and it more than doubled - so it's basically free :) Then my dentist applied polymer material to about 8 of my front (about 2K) and I'm happier than a pig in shit with the results. Oh - I'm 59 so it's never too late.

About the shitty parenting you had - Gotta just forget the past and fake it until you make it. Guys here are giving you great advice though - I just thought I'd chime in with some dental advice.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah thanks for the advice, I've already looked at the treatment I need and it will probably be like $20k so just saving up for everything now.

[–]laserdicks2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Is there another country that will do it cheaper? Mexico does some surgeries extremely cheaply (by the U.S standards) and is actually reputable if you go to the right hospital.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Well yeah there is but I'm at a point were I'm extremely broke but I have a big cash influx coming in soon so it's either I don't get it done at all or I do. So in this instance it's smarter I just get the best that is available.

[–]purecoolnesss3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You just want to be normal? but IMO being normal never makes interesting people.

99% of people say that the peak of their happiness was their childhood

Who cares what others did. If bad things happened to others in the past you wouldn't be jumping at the chance to go back and experience those things would you?

About being inexperienced

You're only 21? Matee you just start going out now and by the time you're 24 you'll be all caught up (if thats what you care about) ((life isn't a competition just do what makes you happy))

I recommend hanging out with guys who are good with girls. That way it will kind of force you to actually talk to girls.

Young love

Young love is very fake. Its very similar to the perfect partner idea. Just ask a girl about her perfect guy. Try to find a guy like that in real life? He doesn't exist.
Young love is like that. Its an illusion that we wish was true but it isn't. We live in the real world. Ted pill stuff is about understanding the real signals and not the ones you were advertised. That hard part of taking the red pill is letting go of the illusion

[–]iakat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude... you are comparing your childhood and teenage years to that of a tinder girls. "Summer romances, loving relationships etc..." You watch too many movies where all of that is a story. You think the tinder girls you talked to had that type of experience? They found their true love in highschool and are going to spend their lives with them?

Why the heck are they on tinder then talking to you? They had some relationship sure, but again they are just teenage girls and you can compare your experiences with theirs. If you've read any TRP you'll know you are going to get better as you mature and work on yourself while they girls reach their peaks in their late teens, early twenties. Your exactly at the right moment to get with girls in the late teens range since girls do prefer a guy about 3 years older on average.

Overall my biggest advice would be to not compare yourself to girls (especially tinder sluts) and stop these feeling sorry for yourself because you didn't live one of the fantasies depicted in movies.

Why don't you ask guys when they lost their virginity? And in what fashion (e.g. LTR? ONS? How old was the chick?) You're at a great age to get with girls 18-20 so you haven't missed out on ANYTHING. I suggest you fix your teeth issues as best you can, since they seem to bother you a lot and start making some connections with girls. If they ask about your past make sure you are ready to brush it off and don't let it affect your frame while you are with her.

[–]Tofimaster 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

It sucks man, but life can only be lived forward not backwards.

Look at it from the brighter side - 99% of people say that the peak of their happiness was their childhood, at least you won't be in that boat. If anything, it can only get better from here.

My advice to you is to keep working on yourself, digesting TRP and reading good books, such as Self Reliance by Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Work on your body, mind and finances. Once you have enough money you can fix most of your external problems, and it's all up from there.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

"Look at it from the brighter side - 99% of people say that the peak of their happiness was their childhood, at least you won't be in that boat. If anything, it can only get better from here."

This makes me want to kill myself. Most people say their childhood was the peak of their happiness because that is really the best fucking time. So many things aren't possible when you're older, people can't be carefree and everyone is stressed over money, relationships are more transactional and not pure. There is a reason people love their childhood so much.

[–]laserdicks2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh, no not at all. It's the opposite. As a kid you have no money or agency. Everything you experience is decided by someone else. As an adult you are free to do whatever you want. This includes the things you could have done as a child.

It might be the case that you assume life was objectively better for kids who we given the Perfect Childhood (tm). Instead what is usually happening is that these kids grow up into a world the doesn't give them everything they want as soon as they want it. So to them adulthood is hard and not as good as easy childhood.

That's just a sad consequence of not being raised properly/at all.

All of the things you've listed as not being possible as an adult are completely untrue.

  • You can be carefree if you position your life to ensure your basic needs are met. Finding employment CAN be done. Are you the dumbest person you know? Statistically speaking that is unlikely. Your writing indicates a level of intelligence already so I won't accept that. Now think of the drop-kicks you come across in government positions, manual labour etc. You're smarter than at least one of them because you can use apostrophes correctly. You are employable.

  • There is no such thing as a pure relationship. Childhood relationships are actually worse for this as children have less empathy and are even more selfish than adults. The acceptance phase will help you deal with this part of relationships. Like all good things though, they're good because they're real even though they have bad elements. Or challenges. You can improve the odds of a good relationship by searching in the right places for a partner. If it sells alcohol, it's not one of those places.

Edit: I want to add that I get it. It's hard. Don't take my answer as flippancy to your struggle. I just want to make sure you hear a perspective that sees a way through.

Also your obstacle to attractiveness is one of the most able to be changed! There are some gargoyles out there with perfect teeth and I bet they'd trade everything to swap problems with you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very mature response.

[–]Invoker11-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Teenage love? But women don't love.... at least not the way men love women... women see men as utilities lol

That's why I go MGTOW

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (11 children) | Copy

> But even if I do get that shit fixed I'll still have missed out on all those teenage years, never had any of those fun experiences and it fucking kills me. Even if I do get my teeth fixed and start fucking and having some relationships I would be starting at 21/22 that is kind of depressing for me.

If this is your mentality, what do you want us to say? Invent a time machine and go back to fix your past? Say some magic words and get someone else's past?

You didn't miss out on much anyway. Your victim mentality is exaggerating shit too much and you're foolish enough to buy into that bullshit. There is nothing of substance happening in high school or college. It's all a giant waste of time, filled with crap decisions and stupid people.

What's done is done. Stop dwelling on it. Stop thinking about your past. Erase it all from your memory. If anything, use your past as fuel to push yourself to succeed in future. Do everything in your power to make your future the polar opposite of your past.

The past and the future are both in your head. The present is the only thing that is real, that actually exists. So stop throwing away your present worrying about your past and your future. Get out there and grind. Fix yourself. Find your passion, your life purpose, something worth doing. Put all your efforts into that.

[–]Tornadofob11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. Not having fun in high school is no big deal. You can dwell over your 10years lost or make the most of your remaining 80. Your call.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

Yeah I agree the present is very important and I need to stop wasting it. But still you have to admit young love is one of the most important things in the world. Name one thing more fulfilling and full of happiness then young love.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

There is no such thing as young love. The love you speak of is a fantasy, a myth. That only exists in movies.

There is no greater drama and meaninglessness in a relationship than when both of you are hormonal teenagers who do not have any direction or wisdom in life.

Stop idealizing and idolizing what could have been. All of that is merely a fantasy you create in your mind.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

You really think young love isn't great? Sounds like a cope tbh

[–]sesamerox7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

sounds like you are clinging too much on your delusional vision of "what it could have been" to keep up your victim mentality.

People who got all those things you are talking about were also complaining that they didn't have a better car or a better girlfriend or that they could have been cruising in LA instead of some other shitty state or they could have been rockstars like that one guy.

It's our developmental / evolutionary mentality that reminds us we need to strive for better, want more and be competitive.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're unbelievable. Get the fuck out of here if you aren't willing to listen to any of us.

Have some fucking humility before you ask for advice.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

you didn't answer the question

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Okay, look. I'll try to be more patient with you.

You seem to think that people enjoyed their teenage years and you've missed out and somehow that's a major disadvantage.

Let me tell you what the reality is. The truth is that they did enjoy. A lot. And what do they have to show for it? Nothing. They have nothing. So much time, effort and money wasted, thrown away, chasing after sex, drugs and booze. Sure, they had fun. So what? Meanwhile, you were grinding, working, suffering. You were suffering, in pain. That's a good thing. As a child, you must suffer, not enjoy the pleasures of life. That way, you do not become an entitled brat following celebrities and the latest trends as an adult but rather a hard-working individual who has his own opinions and views.

So what if you're still a virgin? Sex is overrated. People have sex everyday, everywhere. It's not the holy grail. It's not heavenly. It's not pure bliss. It's just another thing people do which gives them pleasure. Sure, sex can be great, but get out of the mindset that if you haven't had sex in your teenage years, somehow that's a permanent mark against your name. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody thinks twice about it. Except you.

What do you think this "young love" means? Romantic walks in the park? Beach sex? Laying on grass in each other's arms, staring up at the star filled night sky? That's all a facade, a fantasy society advertises. Let me tell you what any relationship consists of - Physical intimacy in exchange for conflict over shit that means nothing to either of you, constant mind-fucking with each other, thousands of dollars wasted pampering an already spoilt and entitled brat, being subjected to her endless drama and gossip which you couldn't care less about, having to run errands for her and pay for her every wish and fulfil her every demand simply so that she stays happy with you etc. That's what the reality is. In my opinion, it's a good thing you missed out on all the crap that goes on in high school. None of it matters in the end and it's all a giant pile of garbage.

[–]POTW_LEAD0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Then again, how would you know what young love is? You are asking people what their opinions are, but then you fight back as if you know. Young love ain't shit nor does it last long

[–]zeekt1219 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

This thread is too funny. Mans getting torn apart lmao

[–]menial_optimist7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the difference between here and anywhere else. You come here and people generally don't sugarcoat things at all and just tell you straight up if you're a fucking jerkoff. Anywhere else (real life included) people will generally just pat others on the back telling them happy lies to make them feel better. It's not even about the truth, it's about feeling good, even if temporarily.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Cause these guys are acting like retarded boomers that think the world is all about being a hard ass. Some things are extremely important such as young love I don't know why they try to deny this. Name one thing in the world more fulfilling then young love. You can't so you can understand then how missing out on young love can be a fatal blow to someones life.

[–]Tofimaster 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Except it's not.

I'll name one right here - Purpose.

If I asked men what they would rather achieve: "young love" or their life's purpose, 100% of them would pick the latter.

[–]CalvinRichland40 points41 points  (36 children) | Copy

Maybe keep dwelling on it wil fix it all.

Your victim Olympics are pathetic. Your parents aren't the reason you suck. You are. I could tell you stories of childhood thatvwould blow your mind from very happy successful adults.

People grew up in concentration camps with less whining than you

[–]zeekt1222 points23 points  (8 children) | Copy

That was brutal damn

[–]CalvinRichland19 points20 points  (7 children) | Copy

Well when you know people that literall grew up eating out of garbage cans with no parents and they have risen to the top of the world and smiled the whole way its hard to sympathize with some cry baby.

[–]Mickusey1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy

Epic and cool. You can tell this guy is hard, an alpha male

[–]CalvinRichland8 points9 points  (13 children) | Copy

You don't have to be hard. You just have to get up everytime you are knocked down. Whats the alternative? Juat be miserable and dwell on setbacks?

[–]Mickusey0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

No your sentiment is totally correct. The way you convey your ideas is just laughably corny and over aggressive. Empathy is a vital part of gaining the hope and strength to become better and love yourself.

[–]CalvinRichland4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy

Empathy never helped me. I only give to others what helped me.

Boys that need to become men don't need feminine coddling. This is how the male crisis occurred.

[–]Mickusey1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

This is the problem with this community and has been for years. You have great ideas about life but all of your methods are based in your massive insecurities and loneliness which still plague you even after you managed to get laid, and this is blindingly clear whenever I see a post like yours that is trying so hard to appear masculine that it’s just silly.

The idea that men cannot have empathy or understanding for one another is a far more unrealistic and toxic one.

[–]CalvinRichland4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

I'm really happy and not lonely at all though. If I was made better by strength, why isn't that valid? Maybe its my role models. The male role models in my life went through hell growing up absolutely brutal conditions and they took responsibility for their own happiness. What is wrong with telling someone to get a fucking grip?

[–]Mickusey0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It’s typically an ineffective method. I am glad you have happiness however

[–]CalvinRichland5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think its an effective method that creates a vitriolic response from those that are never going to take responsibility and get better no matter how much you rubbed their shoulders. Thus the success rate is equal or better but appears worse because so many people just want excuses and it's anti excuse.

Happiness is a choice.

[–]Mickusey0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You can understand the plight of another without making excuses. In my experience a willingness to connect and showing that you genuinely care is what gives people the hope and motivation in life to craft something better. Best wishes to you and I’d at least take that into consideration.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

There you go you had role models. So stop acting like you did everything on your own and understand everyone isn't as fortunate as you to have help.

[–]CalvinRichland5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Victim olympics is back. I am so fortunate. I dont have it hard like you.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Not replying to what I said and just saying some dumb shit, typical cuck trait. Not wasting anymore time with a retard like you.

[–]Psychological_Radish17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

First, whining about problems is a feminine trait. Solving problems is masculine. Stop whining and start winning.

I was a kissless virgin until age 21. Now I bang hot girls on the reg at age 25. Be grateful that you're a guy. You can spend the next few years improving SMV and go back to fuck young hot chicks. Being on TRP is the closest you will get to stepping into a time machine.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

It's not about fucking whining or being masculine or feminine I don't give a fuck about any of that. What is important is young love and that connection that is stronger then anything in the world. I don't care about showing off some masculine bullshit or anything like that I am stating what is important.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Youth love? You didn't miss much man, stop whining. You can have 10x the fun well into your 60s.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

My grandma was the same as you. Great grandfther had a farm in an unincorporated hamlet in middle america. Was land rich but extremely money poor. Not sure how much of it was abuse, vs the simple fact that unless every single able hand in the family was working, you didn't eat and bills didn't get paid. If my great grandpa caught her not actively doing something productive, he would yell, smack her on the hand, and send her off to shovel manure or something equally unpleasant.

So, until the last 60 years or so, your childhood would have been totally normal, and modern kids are spoiled as fuck. This is why there are so many whiny, lazy, entitled man-child beta losers out there, and so many worthless angry, ignorant, and unfulfilled women.

The problem is, you've allowed other men-boys to infect you with their whiny self-pity attitude. You think you're owed the priviledge of screwing around and doing nothing particularly productive as a child. You think you're owed being given nice things for no particular reason from your parents just because you're a special snowflake.

I'm not saying your parents were good people, but they taught you to shut your mouth and work at something, and taught you to not give a fuck when necessary.

[–]NotMeUsee8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meet a crazy disgraced scientist. Rip off Arab militias to get plutonium. Create a time machine from a weird car. Find some burnout kid to go with you and use as a scape goat. Go back in time. Fuck your mom. Then get stuck in the wild West.

[–]erthian4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

In 10 years you are going to look back and wish you were the age you are today... Unless you break the cycle now. 21 is young as fuck. You have plenty of youth left to misspend.

[–]chomponthebit3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Op, there is a plus side: 1. Since you’re starting late, you’ll have a lot of fucking to make up for. I’m older, and still making up for it - often with women half my age. Boys and girls that start young aren’t as excited about sex later on. It’s old hat, boring. Popular hotties in high school generally never amounted to anything, and rarely maintain their beauty or charm into their late 20s. For us, it’s still new and fun, for longer. Late bloomers are blessed with patience and are thankful for what we get; 2. Many people that started younger started by being molested. It’s not all fun and games for everyone who was banging back then. Many of them got a head start they wish never happened and pine over the fact they didn’t start later; 3. Kids are idiots with unprotected sex, etc. You could have been a father at 15;

You’re romancing the shit out of something that could have been disastrous.

[–]friendandadvisor16 points17 points  (8 children) | Copy

Stop being a faggot is my advice.

You HAD a youth. It wasn't STOLEN. It was there all along.

You are a whiny cunt. You are just trying to get us to feel sorry for you, and listen to your fucking shit. Knock it off, and try, for once, to be a man.

I guess I don't mind telling a girl this cause I am more of an outcast then a loser and it will help her understand why I have no friends and don't talk to my family

You "don't mind telling a girl this"??? WTF are you trying to kid??? You can't fucking wait to tell a girl this! Further, women don't 'want to understand' anything.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

Lol another boomer. Let me guess your mommy and daddy bought you braces when you were a kid? Fixed your little faggot mouth up for you real nice to suck your daddies cock? Stop acting like you did it on your own and shit wasn't handed to you, you don't know what it's like to have rotting fucked up teeth. You would never survive if you were in the situations that I've been in.

[–]pascuccired3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

LOL, man. Forget about your teeth cuz you have some mental issues.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah I know I have developed some since I've been in such a fucked up situation for so long trying to work on my mental state tho.

[–]pascuccired1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Then why are you fixated so much on your teeth? Man thats just an insecurity thats keeping you from approaching and fucking bitches. Just do it and forget about your teeth.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Listen faggot, I have been through shit that would make you even more fucked up than you are; you'd fucking cry like the bitch that you are if I just gave you an outline.

Listen, you're being a fucking cunt. Knock it off, and be a man. MAN. That means, stop fucking giving your hardluck story to everybody that comes down the pike, because (and this is a free tip-if you adhere to it, it will benefit you) nobody gives a fucking shit. If you had the balls, you'd admit that you are already practicing telling the chicks about all of your sad past, aren't you??

I tell you this stuff, and you curl up into a fetal position and cry and sulk, and start talking about how tough you've had it. You seem to act as if you've overcome quite a bit, then, you give the lie to it by whining like a fucking whore whose pimp beats her up.

Grow up and be a man!

Finis

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

lol another fake tough guy, you wouldn't survive what I've been through. stop acting like you've been through shit.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I dunno, you can't seem to make it through a thread without crying like a a bitch, so, tell everybody, again, how tough YOU are.

I tell you to man up, and you start saying that nobody here is as tough as you are, except with bad teeth, and it hurts! Then, you start insulting me. You ain't tough. You're a shithead. Stop being a shithead. It's easy to stop being a shithead, so, try it.

Finis

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't ruin your present feeling shitty about your shitty childhood.

And get your teeth fixed. Tons of stuff that goes wrong in the body starts in the mouth.

[–]Original_Dankster1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Starting the life you would prefer to live at 21 is no goddamned problem at all. I started even later than that - in my late 20s. Now in my mid 40, I look back on my late 20s as a great time. I don't dwell on the period before that.

Get your teeth fixed, practice what you learned here at TRP, and start your life at 22. It's nothing to be depressed about. Some poor guys never get started in life at all.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

I have been redpilled since I was like 15 I think that might be part of the problem, I started reading redpill stuff back then and I knew what I was missing out the whole time but my teeth and situation was to fucked up for me to do anything about it. I've been awake this whole time just grinding and trying to get the money to carry things out.

[–]juiceperks 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Dude there are plenty of ugly chicks who don’t give a damn about your teeth that you could be slaying. Get those reps in so when you fix your teeth you know what you are doing,

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

I don't really think about ugly chicks I have higher standards then most probably. I don't want to just fuck a girl but have some connection to.

[–]juiceperks 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

And so far those standards have gotten you 0 pussy. You’re gonna meet a girl that meets your standards and fuck it all up because you don’t know what you are doing.

There’s levels to this shit playboy.

[–]Rene-Girard 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Dude, you're 21 which means you can still fuck teens. So you haven't lost out on anything yet.

  1. The past is the past, there's nothing you can do about it. You are a man and can create yourself according to your own ideals instead of letting the past create you.

  2. Don't be holding out for some big cash influx. If you need money, find a way to make it. What are you gonna do the next time you have a big problem and there is no big cash influx?

[–]m03svt1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Dude you’re 21 and still young as fuck,go join the military and go overseas and make some dope memories and stop being a whiny bitch

[–]worthless_18 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

Lol you low test jerkoffs are so predictable. When I say I'm doing that you hate? Then you recommend it to someone else and act like you didn't steal my idea.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah they're fucking cucks. They got everything handed to them by their parents who fixed their teeth for em and everything then they turn to me and tell me to stop being a whiny little bitch. Fucking lol they have no idea what reality is like.

[–]worthless_18 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah privileged white folk never see struggle so they lack empathy.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Yep don't wana make it a racial thing tho so I'll just say the privileged in general. They look down on you if you don't "pull yourself up" when it reality everything was given to these faggots they don't understand what work is. They don't understand what unpaid work for years can do to someone.

[–]worthless_18 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

I try telling em but like you said they got it all yet have the nerve to talk down on someone that's talking about their struggle.

[–]Deep_freeze2021 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some guys dont start until they're well past their prime, some guys dont start until theyre around retirement age, some guys dont start until they're elderly, most guys never even get started in the first place. Just being aware of red pill ideas puts you well ahead of the majority.

You should take this opportunity to start working on a more positive mindset, you missed out on much of the joys of childhood and adolescence, on the flip side you have a better understanding of the real world and likely a stronger work ethic than your peers. You didnt miss out on anything your experience was just different.

Whether or not you succeed in the future is going to hinge directly on your ability to overcome your disadvantages and find benefits in hardships.

Positivity is heavily under promoted, its the filter through which everything else must flow, exercise with a negative mindset becomes an unbearable burden, with a positive mindset it becomes a challenge to meet and an affirmation of discipline and dedication.

I overcame depression that began in middle school and lasted until i was nearly thirty, I overcame it by moving to a different state and choosing to focus on the good and learn from the bad.

Good luck

[–]Sexandswishers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m a handsome guy, and I wasted my youth dating some fat chick from the time I was 13-20. I only went to high school for 3 quarters of my freshman year. So I dint get to experience homecoming, or prom (Or fuck HS bitches) 😔 Even worse, I dint get to go to college, and fuck every girl in sight... When I was 19, I got arrested and charged with 3 class X felonies (6-30 yrs) Spent my 21st- and 22nd birthday in jail 😌👏🏻 now I’m stuck in a LTR I’m bored of

We still got our 20’s bro, don’t worry about.

[–]VolatileEnemy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You didn't miss anything, most youth voluntarily spend their teenage years playing video games or doing homework. Even most teens and their early sexual experience might as well be worthless and not experienced because it was absolutely boring and silly and awkward.

You didn't miss much.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Unpopular opinion here;

Do not get over it.

Hatred is a very underestimated emotion.

-Jim Morrison

No revenge is as sweet as success. Fuck your patents. Fuck the bullshit they put you through. And fuck anyone for thinking that’s all you are.

Prove them all wrong. They don’t know who you are on the inside. You have a conqueror’s soul. Nothing will hold you back.

Now go get a small victory. Then another. Then another.

Good call on your teeth. Next figure out how to get money. Fuck the haters. This is your world!

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I hate them all and for me now it's all about getting money and getting my teeth fixed, goona start working out and just try to keep this depressing thoughts out of my head. I don't wana waste my present since these years right now might be my last chance to have young love.

and yeah on the teeth It's bs how much it costs and so many of these fucking cocks suckers telling me to stop whining probably had their fucking mommy and daddy get them braces and fix their teeth when they were kids. They don't know what it's like to have rotting crooked teeth. Boomers need to stop acting like they did it on their own and telling others to man up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

100% agree with everything you’re saying brother.

Don’t be angry all the time, but when you’re feeling tired or like quitting, remember hatred. It will give you drive. These other fucks haven’t seen how bad this world can be.

When you feel like quitting you tell yourself these two words. “Toughen up.” And make it through.

I’d say I’m proud of you, but you need to be lifting. Go lift. Follow a program. Do 5x5 and start light. Bench 70. Squat 90. You need to start light so you can kill your ego. Just show up and do wimp weights and trust that over time you will grow. Show up do the program and shut up.

I believe in you. Shoot me a PM if you ever feel the need.

[–]criveros1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cry me a fucking river. You are a 21 year old male with a good looking face in North America. You can do whatever the fuck you want with the rest of your life.

[–]pascuccired1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait till he fixes his teeth.

[–]Je_suis_throwy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're 21, your twens are lying in front of you. You can still have a lot of fun in the years to come. Stop mindfucking yourself with your past, because it spoils the time you have now. Write a bucket list and start working on yourself.

[–]gains_o_clock0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think I'm going through something similar right now and what I'm trying to make my philosophy to be is to not play a victim like the rest of society. Everyone wants to call racism or sexism or even "ageism" recently but no one wants to take accountability for their actions and man up. Your childhood sucked. That sucks. What are you gonna do about it? Sit around and cry and eat chips and watch TV? Or are you gonna go live the rest of your life and see what you can really do?

[–]tenXten0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Similar story here. My $0.02:

Enjoy all that you know at this very moment. You could be still "plugged in" and never have realized how much of an unsculpted piece of legendary rock you are and will be. Much like me: Keep grinding on self, setting them goals, smashing said goals, fix those teeth, then use them to bite asses, nipples, clits...whatever the fuck you want. You'll look back one day and realize that you've gotten everything you've wanted. We just tend to expect it to be exactly the way we want then to come. don't assume that. Just enjoy the ride.

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Looking up orthotropics or mewing it straightens your teeth

[–]Nergaal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

By accepting that life is not fair.

[–]anon1moos0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

you're still a youth.....

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah I think my early 20s can still be good since I can still have young love at this age I need to break free soon though.

[–]anon1moos0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Or else what? You can have “love” at any age.

It seems like you’re comparing yourself to others and thinking you’re far behind or something. You’re not.

[–]dobbekz 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

young love is all that matters. After a certain age people are just washed up.

[–]anon1moos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

your religious programming is leaking.

[–]lololasaurus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You supposedly wasted your youth working (and probably don't realize the simultaneous gift this was, although it may not be obvious to you right now), but you can't change what you did in the past, only now and the future, to the degree you have opportunity to do so.

So you can be mad at others for your past, but you're choosing to do that instead of something you really want with the present.

I suspect you only know how to be angry. But how's that working for you?

Also, are you lifting?

[–]Strong4t0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Accept it.

[–]sunwukong1550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You shouldn't be having sex if your a kid -_-

[–]Lord_Farquadz770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude forget about the young love bullshit. The girl that I “loved” in high school also put me through the most hurtful experience of my life. Years later found myself and trp, now I’m going my own direction. Get your teeth fixed, and start busting your fucking ass to make your future something that makes up for your shitty past.

I agree some of these guys are being harsh but that’s trp. And that’s fucking LIFE. You need to forget about the past. You know what I would trade for those 2 years I spent with that hoe I thought I loved? The opportunity to reinvent myself and become a god damn business mogul that gets all the pussy he wants. Fuck love. Maybe it’s real maybe it isn’t, but until it finds its way into your life shut up, pick yourself up and kick the world in the teeth.

You got this homie.

[–]izotonias0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel you bro. I think shitty childhoods is a big reason for guys to come to TRP.

I’ve read some of the other comments here and a lot of people are saying similar things to push you forward.

It does have to come from you. It’s shitty but no one else will help you out. Also what ever has happened to you in your past. You need to examine it, figure out why it’s messing with you and make peace with it and move on.

That isn’t easy but it is what’s going to make the rest of your life easy.

Fix your teeth. Follow the hand book. Lift. Grind through all the tough shit and you will be okay.

You’ll have periods of up and down. But you’ll always have the insanely tough foundation of knowing you won’t let yourself go back to that teenage loser.

No matter what. You can only improve yourself from here bro and the community with always be around for men in difficult situation.

Good luck.

[–]3chazthundergut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stop focusing on the past and what you missed.

Focus on making the most of your life right now. Find your purpose and get after it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women don’t give a fuck about your problems especially when meeting they only care for themselves, especially the high status ones which are much pickier when it comes to judging the market value of fellow men. Grow some balls dude stop whining like a little bitch

[–]Morphs_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lost my v-card at 23. Don't sweat it. Start lifting and keep the work ethic up. It's a sort of gift that will be very useful in your working life. Remember that male attractiveness peaks around 35. So you have 14 years to get yourself in the best position possible to enjoy that peak.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read 'The Power of Now'.

There's no point focusing on the past. It's gone, it doesn't exist, it can't exist ever again even if you want it to.

Where are you? You're NOW. NOW is the only time you can ever do anything. Focus all the energy that you're currently pointing towards the past, on what you're doing today to better your situation.

You're working minimum wage? Well, what are you doing about that? You don't need teeth to earn more than minimum wage. Go to university and become a banker, hell go to trade school and become a plumber or electrician, if its anything like Australia they earn about $600+ a day and they can be overweight fucks with no teeth if they want to. Become a counselor or psychiatrist to help other fucked up people.

Read the book and go to the gym, whining here like a purple haired feminist doesn't fix anything sorry.

[–]Kirix-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude you're 21. Take some of that money and go snowboarding



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