Is love possible? Do non-used up girls exist?

pollsterblue · 2018-10-29T18:13:01+00:00

Speaking as an older male, 47, I cannot emphise enough the need to love yourself 100% before getting involved with a Women, they have a knack of finding out your insecurities overtime and using them against you (consciously and unconsciously). You have to be totally at ease and peace with yourself. If your not, then they WILL find a way to break you. Then it's game over.

dukes1998 · 2018-10-29T18:53:00+00:00

Ill tell you that a lot of red pill theory isn't to be taken literally, and that only becomes apparent when you actually go out in the world and begin to meet people.

All this CC used up nonsense you hear around here are just the personification of many heres insecurities and the inferiority complex that arises as a sexual failure in your formative years. But the truth is that people are who they are, for better or worse. A girl whose fucked 100000 guys may be completely loyal to the right guy, and the religious girl whose only had one partner may get bored and fantasize about playing the field and being satisfied for a change. But it doesn't matter. You can't change people and you only see the person they want you to see. But again, it doesn't matter. Make sure your needs are met first and don't invest too much into anyone and you can avoid a lot of the BS you hear around here about people being shitty, because they are, and it isn't just women.

Work on yourself first, and think of friends and women as accessories to your life goals. TRP talks about a mission, well you have to find yours. Its what gives life meaning in an inherently meaningless existence. If you're content with yourself, confident and happy no matter what your partner count is or how much money you make, you'll be attractive to people. Ever wonder why drug dealers and prisoners and other social rejects still get laid while some "winners" who make 200 k a year working in STEM don't? Because getting laid and being successful socially is all about your mindset and how you feel about yourself. I struggle with depression but when I'm feeling good I'm happy and content with the person I am and it is apparent in my interactions with people, because they are drawn to self assuredness and confidence like a moth to a flame because so, so few people are genuinely confident and happy with themselves and people like that will give off very good vibes women will easily pick up on.

[deleted] · 2018-10-29T18:51:08+00:00

The idea of love isnt what you're thinking. Go and read the sidebar, in particular about how women and men are capable of expressing love. You can be happy again, you just have to redefine the goal posts of what you're going for. Realize that the unconditional type of love doesn't exist for you. You only get the love when you're giving her vagina tingles. You drop your frame and you get passed by for the next alpha.

SmartAdhesiveness · 2018-10-29T20:04:05+00:00

First, if you still believe in “true love,” you haven’t taken the red pill. “True love” is the phrase women use to describe the feeling they get when they’ve found the man they see as their alpha and their brains are flooded with oxytocin. Take the red pill, and stop looking for “true love.”

Instead, figure out what you want from women. If you want a woman so you don’t feel lonely and insecure, STOP! They will destroy you, even if they are not trying to.

NPR_is_not_that_bad · 2018-10-29T18:46:01+00:00

I think your idea of women is misguided.

There are tons of women who aren’t riding the cock carousel. Many women who are academically and professionally driven, were in a long term relationship, religious, or just haven’t for whatever reason - May have been less attractive than peers.

I’ve hooked up with women who ride on the cock carousel and have had a blast. But for dating I’m much more picky. Last girlfriend - 27 years old - had slept with two guys before me and was beautiful, fun, and very successful. Didn’t work out, but it was close to.

Girl I’m dating now - not sure how many guys she’s slept with and I won’t ask - doesn’t have baggage and is certainly not used up. She parties and has fun, and if I had to guess has a number 10-15. But I’m 28 now and really don’t worry about tht.

Now when I date I look for someone to have fun with, learn from, and lean on when I need support. You’ll find it man but don’t let TRP define your only thought of women.

I see TRP as applying to the ultra-hot, somewhat slutty, and most desirable women. But to many other women out there, these rules don’t apply - or not to the same extent. So keep that in mind and improve yourself to the best you can be. You’re 30, not 50. you have time to be picky, work on yourself, and find a badass girl

Whisper · 2018-10-30T00:48:05+00:00

https://www.trp.red/p/whisper/781

VasiliyZaitzev · 2018-10-29T19:57:18+00:00

I. A Unicorn is a mythical beast.

II. Be better than her. YOU are the prize.

III. Stay firm.

basedgrizzly · 2018-10-29T20:27:02+00:00

I said I was red pill. I’m purple pill now. And I’m not a fucking miserable prick anymore like half of the people on this sub.

omega_dawg93 · 2018-10-29T21:38:55+00:00

here's a start, OP. go to rollo tomassi's blog titled, 'rational male,' and start reading there; then buy his book and read it 3x in 6 months. i STRONGLY suggest reading the post titled, Mental Point of Origin before you read any of the heavier stuff.

from there, just understand that females don't live in the same world as men. they live in a world of deception, manipulation, and LIES... lots & lots of lies. however, do NOT get mad at them for being this way. these are all evo & bio traits that are just in them... it's their method of survival.

after that, i highly suggest going to youtube and searching for material from patrice o'neal (RIP) who had a very, very effective way of communicating red pill truths thru both comedy and detailed analogies.

note: you will likely go thru an "anger" phase where you realize a bunch of truths about women and mistakes you've made in the past dealing with women. from there, let the scars heal, put yourself first, and go after your goals & purpose in life... taking care of your health (lift weights), finances, and hobbies. women should be a COMPLEMENT to your life... not the primary focus of your life. do NOT listen to what any female tells you about love, romance, or relationships-not even your mom; they have NO FUCKING CLUE what they want bc their wants change with their emotions (daily, hourly, & by the minute).

also, AVOID GETTING TRAPPED INTO ONE-ITIS. however, when you meet a girl you think is LTR material (after some thorough vetting), firmly set your boundaries with her, learn her ways of playing games... shit-testing, deception, & manipulation, etc. the best way to defeat her b.s. is to MASTER the concept of Amused Mastery and play the games with her... bc they act just like children.

last, as long as you're alive, you won't get any rest because hypergamy DEMANDS that women push for more & better... so you have to keep your game sharp. there will never be a, "can i just take a break from all this shit," day; it won't happen. the breaks you need to re-group and re-energize come from self exploration, good (red pill aware) male friends, and thru reading.

hope this helps...

basedgrizzly · 2018-10-29T18:17:33+00:00

I will say that I was very red-pilled, borderline MGTOW when it came to women, where I just kept my distance. A year later I am in an awesome relationship with a girl who I love very much. She pursued me and so I was basically given leverage to set the boundaries of the relationship and make her live up to my expectations. She was a virgin before we started dating, as was I, she has no social media, doesn’t go out and drinking unless she is with me. She understands that over stepping boundaries that we have set means that the relationship is over. But idk man, I never would have thought it would be possible to feel this way about a girl, and I am just thoroughly enjoying it. The red pill in the back of my mind always reminds me to be cautious, and to have expectations that this won’t last forever.

So in conclusion, if you’re looking for a long term relationship, your best bet is with a virgin. Finding one is definitely the difficult part though

basedgrizzly · 2018-10-29T18:27:57+00:00

Thanks! See I’m 24 and my gf was 20 when we met (21 now) after a certain age I imagine it’s almost infinitesimally rare to find a girl who is the full package and hasn’t been riding on the CC.

ryeprotagonist · 2018-10-29T17:49:19+00:00

Yes. And yes. But both are remarkably unlikely. And the former is at first a chemical reaction in your brain and later on just a comfort which you make compromises to hang on to.

So... Do you want to set up your life to deal with the world how it is, or would you rather deal with it based on how we wish it would be?

CaptainBW · 2018-10-29T19:58:21+00:00

Girls are annoying as fuck why do you want to love them

ARUKET · 2018-10-29T20:21:38+00:00

There is certainly a 'formula' for 'love' (which for ease of reference I'm just going to define as 'stable long term partnership comparible to marriage'), nothing new here but a few of the obvious ingredients being:

you

self improving
maintaining abundance
being a good leader

Etc etc. Basic trp stuff

The girls side of things is a little more difficult to quantify, but includes factors such as:

her

feminine
low N count
comes from good family

Etc etc - again, basic trp stuff.

Thing is, while true 'alpha' men are certainly in low supply, the same can be said about women who are relationship material. 2018 is great for finding hoes that'll jump on your cock an hour after meeting you, but if your ultimate aim is the traditional nuclear 2.5 kids model you're looking at much more of a challenge finding an appropriate partner for this

So the answer to your question is ultimately:

depending on how you define it, yes - however the odds are heavily stacked against you

Believeinyourflyness · 2018-10-29T18:33:55+00:00

It's possible but it's so statistically unlikely that I wouldn't say it's worth pursuing.

wadokai · 2018-10-29T21:19:56+00:00

Let me answer you the question of "Love", or as commonly known here, "Oneties".

Oneties stem to a much much bigger issue than the question of "I love her and and i want her to be my wife". Oneties is rooted in our society and is postulated by the feminist imperative. Women use oneties and the soulmate myth to exploit men... It's a big deal, but lemme answer your question as to keep on the topic.

Love is chemistry. Love is fucking immoral. If you're "in love" you won't be able to see right from wrong, the bitch from the good girl, you being beta or alpha. When you're in love, your vision and intellectual abilities are paralysed for a moment of time.

Love is an evolutionary mechanism, an evolutionary byproduct that occurs after intense human interaction. This human interaction, in case you're a beta chubby bitch, is a short convo with a cute girl you've just met. For an alpha or someone who got his heart broken many times after the radio silence girls give him after those short convos, love usually happens after sex.

But it's not love really. It's just your brain is wired on a deep level to tell you, "HEYY! This person makes me feel pleasant enough. Stick around them from now on, yeah?"

In hunter-gatherer society, that idea saved tribes and lives. But in modern society, that idea will make the girl lose interest in you in a split of a fucking second.

Love is irrational. When you're caught in a case of oneties and demonstrated it to the girl, she'll lose interest and she WILL let you know., i.e less attention, less reception to physical contact... Less fucking everything. And here Oneties do their magic. You'll hang around her even though she's not giving you sex. Yet because you love her, you'll always be there for her blabkablabala... I hope you got the picture.

In my opinion, as it is a general truth of life, the more you experience this, the less intense it becomes. I'm not gonna lie. I've had a SEVERE case of oneties with two girls recently. One we hanged out together and had so much fun. We just didn't stop talking and she let me touch her all over the place. But no sex cuz I'm still anxious about it as I was virgin back then. And then the second hanged out with her for a month and ended up breaking my virginity with her.

And holly shit. I just woke up the next day only thriving to put my dick inside of her again, but she started pulling.

I hope that helps.

DirtyBastard13 · 2018-10-30T04:53:12+00:00

True Love does'nt exist. Love does'nt exist. It's blue pill swill peddled the elites to keep the plebs from going out of thier league, by women to lock down a provider, by soft men who want to make an easy living by religion, and betas who hope to get lucky. The marraige system was designed to prevent conflict every time a man wanted a new woman. In it's absence the top 20% of men would monopolize 80% of the women.

What we call love are hormonal reactions and instincts intended to push us to keep the species going. Those feelings fade usually within seven years. At best, it's replaced with a mature understanding of partnership between two people.

2.Unless she's been kept on from doing so by a strong male figure in her life such as her father, is ugly or deformed or actually "saving herself until marraige" (IE kept in line by religion/ social mores) she's most likely ridden the cock carosel to one degree or another. At best all women have the potential to be like that unless they are checked somehow. It's like a kid who only knows that candy is delicious but does'nt understand that too much of it is bad for you and leads to cavaties and obesity. The kid will eat candy as long as there is candy.

3.Your end goal is your own happiness or whatever your mission in life is. If life is like a house, a woman is like a good piece of furniture, nice to have but not the point.

_jobro · 2018-10-30T06:56:31+00:00

Regarding your first question - the feeling of love is definitely possible. The confusion and false expectations come into the picture mainly with regards to how such 'true love' is gotten.

In too many movies, you see how the nice guy pins his hopes and dreams on the girl and eventually after doing all those secret things for her she somehow finds out that he's the one she actually loves. IMO that's where the false expectation kicks in.

For myself and I'm sure many others here, the feeling of truly loving an individual and receiving love back can be experienced for sure. The thing is how a young man should go about obtaining such an experience. (hint: doing sappy stuff and focusing on just the chick ain't the answer)

So to conclude the first answer, true love is obtainable for sure. However there are lots of false information about how to really obtain such a relationship with a/many women.

2nd question - No, not every women is riding the cock carousel. The thing you should realize is that biologically, I'd say most if not all women are programmed to want to fuck the big bad alpha.

Same as how most if not all men are programmed to enjoy fucking multiple women if they were given the opportunity.

But that doesn't mean that all men would choose to do so, same for the women.

So in short - women are programmed to ride the carousel, but depending on where you look there are definitely girls out there who perhaps due to circumstance (eg conversative family, grew up as an ugly duckling turn swan) who have not stepped onto the carousel, and perhaps will never in their lives.

It seems to me that you're just newly begin on your RP journey. As long as you first truly decide what you want out of life and women and then take action and do the work to get there, I'm sure you'll do fine buddy.

MisplacedSanityP · 2018-10-29T18:48:33+00:00

You plate women and vet from there if you want to do an LTR. One thing that is very important imo is growing up in a conservative home(Asians, Jews etc) My girl is Asian and spent too much time studying to deal with guys. I found her at 20 with only having been with one guy previously which was also her only bf. That’s the ideal. Now we say AWALT meaning all girls have the potential to cheat and stuff such as that. But girls with lower n-counts, don’t party much, aren’t into and have never been into drugs are much less likely. There’s no unicorn that will definitely never cheat under any circumstance. Your goal is to find the girl that has the best chances of turning out like the mythical unicorn.

[deleted] · 2018-10-29T19:40:10+00:00

Just don’t wait around for someone else to be happy. Used-up is the wrong word.

If you are a happy and loyal person you will attract happy and loyal people.

Nergaal · 2018-10-29T20:48:34+00:00

True love is a blue pill fantasy. It exists in nature, but in nature, humans are evolutionarily selected to form couples for only 4-6 years.

Not all women ride the CC, but all women have the capability to do so. The more attractive, and the less fulfilling her career is, the more likely she fills that void with CC rides.

Learn to actually be ok with yourself and eventually things will work better than now.

zaze12 · 2018-10-29T18:38:51+00:00

I don't know love,I don't know even if exist. But I know girls who are good ltr material,like mine ltr (not an unicorn ,but very rare girl).

SynfulVisions · 2018-10-29T18:53:48+00:00

True love is an illusion, but that doesn't mean you can't have a fulfilling and prosperous relationship with somebody who complements you.

Not all women ride the CC, there are plenty of edge cases. The thing is, concepts like AWALT describe behaviors of the overall population in response to general stimuli. It doesn't mean that every single woman responds exactly the same way in every situation. HOWEVER... the fact that populations are prone to similar behaviors and patterns is something that you should be insanely aware of in any relationship.

SalporinRP · 2018-10-29T20:16:36+00:00

I don't think the Disney princess version of love is possible after you've taken the pill. But you can certainly being in a loving caring relationship with a woman that is fulfilling.

And no, not all women are riding the CC. Blue-pill guys definitely underestimate how much sex your average HB7 is getting laid while I think sometimes on TRP people overestimate it. It all depends on the girl obviously but the truth is usually in the middle. The way TRP talks about college girls you'd think every single one of them has a different dick scheduled for each day of the week. Yeah maybe sorority whores, but there are definitely good girls out there.

I'm 22 and a recent college grad and I've met my fair share of sluts and thotties. But I've also met my fair share of girls my age with 1-2 partners. That's why you vet though. Because once you get more experienced, the girls who get laid with a new guy every weekend become easy to sus out.

AWALT doesn't mean LITERALLY every women acts like that. There are women who exemplify all aspects of AWALT, women who exemplify only one or two aspects, and all sorts of women in between.

[deleted] · 2018-10-29T20:14:17+00:00

the fact is their is no perfect girl. you will make compromises and have to deal with shit you dont prefer in a girl.

APSTNDPhy · 2018-10-29T20:30:40+00:00

No it's not. Not the fairy tail shit you think.

DadOnDabs · 2018-10-29T20:46:16+00:00

Best way to look at it is like you're playing Russian roulette. There's a bullet in one of those chambers so why not play it safe and assume they are all loaded.

That being said there are many women who go outside the traditional AWALT. But most do not. Better to assume that they do.

someonesopinion6969 · 2018-10-30T01:13:06+00:00

I think you summed this up yourself man, you're at the bottom of the food chain right now and no bitch worth a shit is paying you attention. this alone is a painful experience but start the long gradual ascent to the upper levels. red pill is a toolkit to be used, it is for you to be a man who keeps his woman in check.

genuinely though, i think 'true love' although a great feeling can be phony and sadly it's just chemicals in our brain feeling in connection with another. ending a connection with someone you feel deeply about is a truly painful experience but i do not believe it is an experience that cannot be repeated with another.

ie i've had the best sex with girls i did not give a shit about but felt deeper connection to girls i dated when there was more 'meaning' treating every girl like a fuckhole can lead you to NGAF but it can lead to pretty meaningless feels about whatever.

anyway, time will tell. i've got a friend who got married recently who in respect is super r.p, just a test of time to see what will become of them...or what will become of me?

sorryforthelifestory · 2018-10-30T14:20:06+00:00

Yes but there’s no guarantee it will actually last

litolule · 2018-10-31T05:22:06+00:00

Marriage is just a piece of paper at the end of the day brother . Thanks for the downvote aswell if that was you x

Andgelyo · 2018-10-29T19:44:18+00:00

Fucking lol at all the fake red pillers posting here. Where are the ECs at when you need them? I feel bad for OP, the betas on this thread are feeding him poison

kollizionlive · 2018-10-29T18:51:45+00:00

Girls ride the CC to different degrees. You're probably not going to find a virgin if you're older than 18, but you can find girls below 5 somewhat reliably and don't need to settle for those double digit thotties. So depends if you think 2-5 dicks is "used up" or not--because you can definitely find that.

[deleted] · 2018-10-29T20:00:04+00:00

Non-used up girls are graduating high school every Spring, just in time for breeding.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2018-10-30T14:44:45+00:00

Yes.....there are tons of girls around who are looking for "the one" not for a dick to ride......as you get more experience you will be able to know the difference.

No...all girls are not riding 10 dicks a week....that is just the bitter ranting of some angrys.

Now a very confusing danger for many of the less experienced TRP is getting stuck in a death spiral by too harshly applying the "rules" of an attracted girl. Those are the ones who are adamant about hard nexting any girl who doesn't fuck them on the first meetup in the back of the bar after getting a couple of drinks before the appetizer arrives. It becomes a self fulfilling exercise whereby they are filtering out all girls except for the sluts who go around fucking guy after guy within 30mins of meeting him. Girls much more likely to be riding 10 dicks a week and cheating\slutting because letting random dudes stuff their dick into her pussy just isn't any different to them than going down to get a bag of corn chips and Coke at the local convenience store. These are the type of chicks who are not LTR material and most have indeed become immune to any sort of intimate relationships because they see all the horrors of the pump and dump world, are jaded and make horrible relationship material.

Tons of what you read is down to selection bias.....

litolule · 2018-10-29T18:25:17+00:00

Love is possible but you must understand that love is as temporary as enjoying an ice cream, you eat it and you enjoy it but at one point of time it’s just not gonna be there. Love is just a temporary thing then happens marriage. Marriage is a contract to raise childrens and take up your particular role as a parent.

downvotesanimals · 2018-10-29T19:15:09+00:00

This whole thread is some cringey shit...

Title	Is love possible? Do non-used up girls exist?
Author	wadokai
Upvotes	97
Comments	125
Date	29 October 2018 04:58 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	askTRP
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/136060
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/9sewyj/is_love_possible_do_nonused_up_girls_exist/