edit: and by the sub I mean the Manosphere by extension, especially Roosh/RoK/Heartiste/Rational Male, and even the MRA dens without investment in sexual strategy such as AVFM

A while ago I made a post to PurplePillDebate, where I basically said that if redpillers did all of the 'alpha' shit (peak SMV) and supported feminism (so, you know, basically be gods) women would love it. Get rid of the misogyny and bitterness and of course the dread game-and what apparently outside they describe as self pity, I mean where the fuck is self pity in TRP-and women would fucking love this place.

Every time I have brought up 'blah blah red pill says bla bla' they start circle-jerking 'OMG no don't red pill is evil it will brainwash u!!!'

Yet I go on dozens of other sources (including straight from the horse's mouth) and I get

  • Women want confidence, insecurity is a turn-off

  • Women want independent men

  • Women want 'ambition'-which is a nice way of saying SMV-which is a nice way of saying money, power (LMS anyone? No women are not so shallow…)

  • Aesthetics are crucial

  • Women want an older man who basically has his shit more together, and is more 'mature' (soo hypergamy? NO HYPERGAMY IS A SEXIST TERPER CONSTRUCT BEWARE THE LIES)

  • Not thoroughly convinced women want to be gamed, have always disagreed with this aspect hence PPD post

  • She is not your shoulder to cry on (evident from the amount of 'omg he's too needy' posts)

  • Saw the post where a fat girl lost weight then dumped the dude-> guy just got told to let it go-> in fact a woman specifically said 'get rid of your entitlement and wallowing in self pity')

  • Feminists want abolition of gender roles, yet evidently resent men who do not act masculine-and are not particularly attracted to feminine-looking ones. For political correctness they show sympathy to a guy breaking frame on the brink of suicide maybe (until he killed himself, then he'd be weak), there may be some maternal instinct in this too, but attraction? Ha, dead.

I could go on. I usually do.

I'm taking this to a psychologist re: my gynophobia, which is largely a product of being beaten down at a young age for acting beta, and then watching my dad get divorce-raped after Mom allegedly cheated on him, for the very same problems I have right now: disability, low self-esteem, very much a product of the 90s SNAG [Sensitive New Age Guy] crash. Inb4 maternal-erotic instinct?!

I'm of the opinion that, but for my dad settling with a slightly depressed, overweight new girlfriend, he would've been dumped. My stepdad is relatively alpha.

Yet he the psych. cannot bring himself to look at my findings. My former (female) therapist did not even get as far as Antibiotic Nuke. On AVFM I see that Psychology has been infected with misandry for the last few decades. Well I'll be fucked, can't even be protected by the NHS now.

And so trust no-one on this matter, least of all my blue pill ex-depressed father and controlling mother, I remotely trust the psych but it is difficult; he's in his 50s, of a generation who didn't have to put up with the current shit-mine that is the game, I don't blame him but I can't expect him to know the score either. My best friends are completely oblivious, and largely inept with women, my other (slightly more alpha, although largely skinny/skinny-fat) male comrades have success with girls, but describe TRP as 'too intense'.

Something is being kept from me. I don't fully trust you but at least you have answers.

I seek advice my anger is seething at the cognitive dissonance.