Do you miss that innocence from the Blue Pill?

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October 10, 2018

I dunno, but sometimes, especially when I'm drunk and get reminded of my "loves of my life" during my Blue Pill days, I get nostalgic about how pure and honest that love is, I get a bit angry about how things play the way they do now, and I kinda hate it and myself for a few minutes and then TRP kicks in the next day and I'm moving on like always planned.

Do you guys experience such episodes?

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Title Do you miss that innocence from the Blue Pill?
Author yahyasafe7
Upvotes 98
Comments 87
Date 10 October 2018 10:43 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]RedLegendx56 points57 points  (6 children) | Copy

No. Not anymore.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah I'm sure that one day I'll just stop feeling anything about the whole thing, but I have just come back from a date where I kissed the life out of a girl... Who has a boyfriend. Could girls be that bitchy these days? That might sound BluePilled, but Jesus man, can't they just control themselves to stay loyal in the face of sexual seduction?

That 100% all-in belief of cheating is utterly impossible in a relationship is what I miss. Seeing girls in LTR getting laid with Chads is kinda sad.... It just shows that people are so weak nowadays they can't even stand a fuckimg whim.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's going to happen anyway so you might as well be on the favorable side of it.

[–]RedLegendx11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Female nature, hormones, biological stuff man.

[–]KidWonder10114 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now it's more concentrated. 60 years ago it was enough alphas for chicks. With the rapid feminization of society, there's less to go around, so women resort to cheating while they lock down some cuck.

[–]LethalShade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is you were indoctrinated by a fantasy that had no bearings on reality and you should thank the Gods for finding out sooner rather than later.

You talk about staying loyal in the face of seduction but what for? People romanticize relationships for the sake of them without being fully aware of what actually gain and lose from them. If that girl is with a mediocre man, what does she gain from staying loyal from him? What does she lose? We often uphold ethics and morals that are not in our best interest.

Cheating is one part of it but what about just staying together through the thick and thin? TRP is a very strong advocate against it(and for good reasons) but a lot would view that as the more respectable and mature way to live your life. Do you stay with your partner after they cheat on you? What about if they gain weight, become depressed, get sick, get injured, develop poor attitude, disrespect you, start being an alcoholic, etc. All interesting questions to ponder.

I went on a tangent for a bit but I think Red Pill is a blessing although it can be bitter sweet. The alternative is burying your head in the sand and living in dillusion, which to me is a fate worse than death. The truth may harsh sometime but at least you can understand it and mold yourself to benefit from it. All dillusion is good for is consciousness dying, no better than a hit of heroin.

[–]ioncehadsexinapool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would say it’s more of a nostalgia for me

[–]SynfulVisions146 points147 points  (6 children) | Copy

I miss being able to legitimately care about anything.

[–]AwkwardEmpath21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Life has a funny way of slapping you down. There are people you can genuinely care about and get it back. It just takes time to work on yourself and be a genuine person yourself.

[–]ChemicalGiraffe7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anything? TRP is about caring about the important things in your life. You just stop caring about those things that are truly not worth it

[–]SynfulVisions-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get that, but I can replace my entire life so why care about any external aspect of it?

[–]Alpha2714511 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m an entrepreneur now and I kinda miss caring about grades or social life

[–]menial_optimist7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm diving in to the redpill but I still care about tons of stuff. Acknowledging certain realities doesn't necessarily mean you disconnect all meaning to everything in life. You just learn there's a lot of shit you shouldn't sweat or care about really, and what's left over is what is actually important.

[–]jackandjill22-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

So, dramatic.

[–]buddhismo_communismo43 points44 points  (2 children) | Copy

I miss some things. I miss actually BELIEVING the lyrics in a classic Stevie Wonder song, but they are still fun songs and I enjoy singing them regardless. I miss listening to dudes pine about being the best man they could be for there girl without thinking "You sorry fucking Simp. Let your nuts hang for God sake". I miss not being able to interface genuinely with my BP friends. Here they are obsessing over compatibility and conversation and I'm suggesting to them that dating women is like invading Russia (if you can't hoist your flag in 30 days pull out). Alot has changed. For the better. Simpin ain't easy.

[–]MikeSangria11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, getting feels from the lyrics was cool. But then Again I did waste months, maybe years listening to songs to just to connect with my feelings about these hoes. 🤮

[–]hormoan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Same for me on all points. It kills me how some of my friends just won't listen.

[–]Brushyourteethm832 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

No, I cringe at the thought of it

[–]throwawayycheyeah36 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy

Same. I try not to think of it. When my friends kid (high school age) talks about how much he loves his Gf I feel a ton of pity for him.

[–]Rndm_0109 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy


[–]HIJKelemenoP4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy



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[–]seedster520 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely not. I'm now armed with the knowledge I've never had and don't give two shits about beta problems. My goals are as clear as day

[–]KidWonder10116 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hell yeah, I miss it somewhat. Would I ever go back? Hell no. I cringe at some of the ways I acted back in the day.

Here's the thing. When you swallow the red pill, your entire mindset and perspective changes permanently.

You can see under the "veil", you can see and understand how things work on the primal level. You can see and predict the demise of blue pill men well before anybody else does.

While this is nice and extremely advantageous, it can take a toll on the mind of people who weren't already "natural" red-pillers. You're more aware, maybe 'too aware in some situations.

It takes the innocent naive humanity out of you sometimes. That's what you miss.

[–]mrpoopistan9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

I was never a particularly innocent person even in that phase of my life.

For me, the blue pill period was marked by endless confusion and anger driven by that confusion. I look back and all I think about is, "Holy shit, I could've been getting laid left and right if I hadn't been getting pissed about the little moments women who were interested in me jerked me around."

Just understanding what a shit test is was like going to the Stone Age to interstellar travel for me.

So, nope. I have no clue why anyone would yearn for that bygone time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Just understanding what a shit test is was like going to the Stone Age to interstellar travel for me

haahahahah this gave me the gags, same here though, although, girls have always made it easy for me, so my shittest dodging skills isn't that great

but this whole post was sparked yesterday when i came back from a date with a girl i met during my blue pill days, she's seen me couple of times while swallowing the pill but she has a boyfriend so she kept the interaction super friendly and didn't mind it, yesterday i saw her again over a beer and she was so receptive to touching and had so much fun it would've felt so wrong to not go for a kiss (and so i did) and then when i came back home, i felt kinda bummed, (was still drunk), "jesus why would she kiss me if she has a boyfriend, why can't she friendzone the life out of me and forces me to go seek pussy somewhere else, why girls have become such sluts nowadays they can't even have control over themselves in the face of a whim" (bluepill putting-girls-on-a-pedestal thinking comes in*

although i'm not used to shittests, she shittested me yesterday and i kinda fucked up, but she was still interested nonetheless, i've seen all the patterns we've talked about in TRP in play yesterday night... IOIS, ASD, shittests, pushing-pulling, trying to put me in her frame, asking me to do shit for her....etc etc.

We were listening to music and I dropped some dancing moves (I used to pop in high shcool), "Oh, you can dance popping? Show me how you do it?"
"well? can you dance?"

"yes, I praticed hip hop before"

"how about YOU show me how to dance then?"

[–]mrpoopistan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Show me" is always winning.

Regarding being blue pill + attractive and switching to red pill + attractive . . . it doesn't call for the same level of exertion that other guys get into. In a lot of cases, you just have to stop missing the obvious hints.

My guess is that this chick was happy to see the progress.

[–]ainihon6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

At times yes. How you can just be yourself, believe for a moment a girl genuinely loves you for who you Are. Then I remember all the shit I’ve been through just being myself and believing in love, then I’m back to the reality of trp.

Reddit is a blessing. But also an asshole for the quarantine. I’m thirsty for more knowledge that empower us men. But hey, feminism must have its day day.

[–]KarmicPrism1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well the quarantine isn't changing anything. Now we just have to go through the secret back entrance, or use the trap house next door (TRP.Red) .

[–]TheLastMgtow5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was certainly a different energy to it. Because i didnt understand the world around me i put insane amount of effort into the gym, gained muscle and was always ripped. I was also a criminal and violent. But i still saw the world as some fucked up shit i didnt understand. The bluepill makes men go to war and sacrifice themselves for worshipping women. The redpill although red it forces you to think by your own head no matter what they tried to hammer into it.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

People who reminisce about the innocence of childhood were never actually children.

You just want to go back into the denial cave.

[–]Hotspot315 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

What?? What were they then?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

my dude is probably drunk/high

[–]laserdicks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

*still are children FTFY

[–]TopofToronto3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No not really.

I have had moments of missing the naivety and dumb optimism of the start of the night of going out to pick up women

But then I take off the rose tinted glasses and recall the hours / days of horrible deep depression and pain and beating myself up because I was doing everything "they" said, "women told me to do this why are not women liking me" and i thought it was me I thought I was a huge loser.

The downside with the RP, I hate being so aware of women hamstering is the only thing, although it saves time in arguing with a woman. It makes me feel alone even with a woman there.

IE , I am tall. Female neighbor asked to hang a light . Sure. put it together , she is missing a part. Can't find part. Okay try and find a substitute. She grabs a random object. "There !" .

I logically say why we can't use it and what we need and the purpose that does. --- She hamsters in her hamster wheel why we should use the random thing. I point out the flaw in her part again, and describe the characteristic of the part we need.

She repeats the same hamster wheel act.

So I used her random object and the lamp will fall on someone's head -- not mine so who cares.

But just after that -- it is like not being in the room with a real person. Just something with robotic responses.

[–]dtyler861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good call 👍 If a girl isn’t hilarious, intelligent, wise or well travelled, I couldnt put up w any of that shit

[–]ItzFizzy13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

meh I do get what you mean but I cringe when I think about it. Sometimes I wish life was a fantasy where people had loves of their lives and stuff, like what you hear in country love songs.

[–]jizzonmypants3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah I hate it in fact, so much shyt I ‘ve done

[–]KarmicPrism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why do you say it like that? It's cool wip.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nope, just fucking cringe because I know all this "love" I was showing is exactly why I didn't get laid before 19 years of age to a 5/10.

[–]wilkins_micawber5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ignorance is bliss while reality is a bitch.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Once upon a time- ignorance is bliss, ya know? I remember thinking my girlfriend actually loved me the way I loved her- no such damn thing of course. But when I believed it, I was happy. Now I'm not happy- I'm just better.

Edit: to make it clear being better IS better than being happy

[–]tudor071 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

being better IS better than being happy

Can you elaborate on that ?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sure. It's kind of the premise of the whole red pill vs. blue pill reference- in the Matrix movie, Neo could remain in the Matrix, relatively happy and safe and comfortable- or he could hear the truth, eat slop every day, be uncomfortable, be forced to fight for his life- but he'd be better. He'd know the truth, he'd be no longer living a lie, and he'd be constantly improving as a person, to the point where he can use what used to be to his detriment to his benefit.

For myself, and probably mostly the same for you as well, we are told that having a woman is the key to happiness- happy wife, happy life. People rejoice with you when you find a woman to date, when you get engaged, when you get married.

We are also told to never make generalizations because "assuming makes an ass out of you and me".

We are also told to "just be ourselves" and things will work out for us in the end.

Well, after taking the red pill, we learn that women don't love men the way we love women... and that the way we treat women isn't the way they want to be treated, typically. Nor is the way we were taught to treat women the way to get the results we want from them. Giving loyalty doesn't provide loyalty back to you. Giving commitment doesn't provide commitment back to you. When society applauds a man for committing to a woman (marriage), it's because a man tied down to a family is a benefit to society, he's locked into being a good little wage slave for the rest of his life.

When people tell us not to make assumptions or generalize, and when they tell us to "just be ourselves" and all that noise- they're just using different techniques to keep men clueless to social dynamics, and how to acquire more agency (aka power) for ourselves.

They don't want us to know how women actually are, they don't want us to know that our dead-end jobs aren't worth showing up to, they don't want us improving ourselves and moving onward and upward. They want us sedated, coasting through life without actually being aware of how it works. Because that's a benefit to society.

Coming to terms with the truth we've been "sheltered" from, then learning how to exploit the way things really are for the betterment of ourselves, is vastly superior to just accepting the pleasant lies. It's not a "happy" life in the same way it was to be BP, but it is better to be wise and sombre than foolish and happy

[–]tudor071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You killed it man, thanks for explanation.

[–]Flintblood2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I miss the idea that true romantic love could be an ideal and mission. Maybe that’s why religions make the focus of marriage as s partnership devoted to loving god instead being star crossed for each other like Romeo and Juliet.

I don’t miss being a doormat, a victim. I don’t miss having much less agency and command of my male destiny.

[–]juggernaut82 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Except it wasn't pure and honest, it was bullshit indoctrination brought upon by societal nonsense and sappy love songs. Bluepilled shit isn't love, it's neediness masquerading as love.

[–]KarmicPrism0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What is love?

[–]juggernaut81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love is something you give out, not something you to try to extract from someone by being pleasing or doing actions.

[–]Morphs_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to wonder if it was possible to be completely head over heels in love with a girl, and her feeling the same. The times I had the strongest feelings of being in love were always the times when I was rejected.

As I found out myself, it's not possible to have an LTR with a girl of equal SMV because of dating up/down mechanics. All my life, my experience is either that I'm not as much in love as the girl (me = higher SMV), I get bored eventually, or the other way around and it doesn't work out because her SMV is higher and I behaved like a bitch.

Nowadays I consider being in love something to avoid.

Listening to the lyrics of love songs on the radio makes my ears bleed.

[–]dtyler861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah especially for me lately. My gf broke up with me over the weekend because she saw photos on my cloud that I had banged an ex when were met together for a few months last year. She’s such a good hearted and traditional girl that I often find myself saying, dude, TRP doesn’t exist because of girls like her. Even when she gets mad threatens she’s going to do something that would piss me off, she ends up going home and watching movies with her mother because she’s afraid if she went out partying with her friends I’d leave her. It’s almost like she’s trained, but feeling like every gf is going to resent you sucks. They don’t see it as; oh my bf will be fine and move on without me, they see it as being controlling and that’s something I miss about being the beta me I was in college.

[–]oddlyaroused1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TBH sometimes I miss the blue pill days.

It is so easy to blame everyone and everything else for my own shortcomings.

Women only date assholes, healthy at every size, the inner values matter, politicians only want the best for us, only jerks and idiots lift weights, being a male feminism will get you some pussy because they will reward you for your progressive views....

All the lies they try to shove down our throats. It would be so easy to live by them.

But it´s not.

You are the shaper of your world, body and soul. And althoug I have a very long way to go in my mental and physical state, once you swallowed the red pill there is no going back. Compare it to the ability to ride a bike, you won´t "unlearn" it, you won´t forget it. You will always be able to ride the bike, you may get a bit rusty if you haven´t for a long time and need to get used to it again, but you won´t forget how to do it.

Its the same with the red pill. It won´t go away. Even if you try.

[–]LLL3peat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I still have it. You just know how to play the game. Emotions and attachments are there. You figure out how and what to do. Everything is a calculated decision more or less. Life, work, women, family. Care love and genuinely care about people? Oh yeah big time. But you see the red flags and you can either care or know when to pull your investment and affection away from people. That's the biggest difference once you've been out of the anger phase for quite some time

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I sort of see what you mean. Like, I recently found out that an acquaintance of mine's wife has fucked at least two dudes since they got married, and he knows and is still with her and has impregnated her since finding out.

I went to their wedding, I was friends with that girl from my BP days, and she even told me she'd never touched anyone else since being with her husband.

Stuff like that makes me feel bleak and nihilistic. But then fuck it, better to know right? Awalt, but some women seem to less prone to it than others.

I just enjoy my time with women, and when it comes to an end, so be it. There's always other women out there. I feel a great freedom that my emotions are much more in my control than when I was a BP beta

[–]JustSatan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, I have. I actually stopped getting drunk, though. If you're interested in controlling your emotions, then getting drunk makes no sense.

[–]allcity280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t miss it one bit. I look back and just cringe at the thought of it. My eyes are wide open and I never want to look back at those blue pill years.

[–]CaptainBW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just experienced something like this a few days ago myself. So, yes. Feel the same way you do man. Only thing to do is appreciate it for what it was and be happy it’s lead to wisdom. Some fellas spend their lives and die in a woman’s Frame without ever knowing anything else. Let’s find comfort knowing we will have avoided that lol

[–]1Quaternionz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I used to, not anymore. Now I just cringe.

[–]gbnz870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I dont think my mindset has changed significantly. Im just more mature and more diciplined about some things since ive hit my 30s. Sure I have done some beta things or made the wrong moves with some women but you learn and move on. Everyone makes these mistakes when they are younger and learning about the opposite sex, I wouldnt consider my self naive or stupid during that time. I just had to learn how to deal with certain situations. No one has it all figured out when you first start chasing girls in your teens or 20s, it takes experience like everything else in this world.

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m no TRP expert by any means but I feel marriage is possible for many people but now a days it’s just a lot harder due to so many options lack of morals and always wanting instant gratification

[–]waynebradysworld0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nope, never had it

Rp was easy for me because somehow I had already observed most of these phenomena, reading it in concise terms was just affirmation and encouragement to believe.

[–]furcryingoutloud0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Actually, I really miss Santa Claus.

[–]jay_jay_man0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Hell no. I was society's manipulated bitter workhorse before the redpill. In my bluepill days I was at the bottom of the pecking order. I didn't understand why no one seemed to like me for being such a "nice guy".

Now, I'm not a 10/10 but I have a decent body, take care of myself, and can see when women are being manipulative.

Missing the blue pill for me is like missing the awkwardness of teenage years.

[–]shdai1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

he's asking if you miss being able to look at women with optimism.

[–]jay_jay_man2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm much more optimistic about women now as a redpill dude now that I understand the game, hypergamy, etc. I actually understand what it takes to vet, build, and maintain a LTR.

When I was bluepilled I was a hopeless case. I had zero optimism with women, I never bought into the Disney soul mate bullshit.

[–]shdai0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

that's optimism about having a woman in your life. what the post refers to is that optimism that you used to get when you saw the girl as this person who you can be with as an equal and not this manipulative kid in an adult body.

[–]jay_jay_man1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

when you saw the girl as this person who you can be with as an equal

nope, i never had that kind of optimism. in my BP days, i put the pussy on a pedestal so I always felt less than and undeserving of women. for me, that belief system came from being raised and emasculated by a single mother.

[–]shdai0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ah i see. truth be told i used to want someone as my left hand. more than pussy. an equal partnership

[–]beautifulmanlet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I miss being blissfully ignorant and believing the lies women tell. I've got a great plate right now who I'll likely upgrade soon who loves to just stare at me and tell me I'm gorgeous and special. Blue pull me would have loved it... now? Lets be real.

[–]hiddenpersona0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fake happiness and false beliefs. Definitely not. Redpill opened my eyes and made me a man and made me find my passion instead of swimming in a huge ocean lost in emotions. Yes it’s hard and a harsh truth but once you understand and implement it it gives you freedom and true happiness. I’m glad I was blue pilled because I have incredible knowledge about everything and every social dynamic now that it’s crazy it’s like being Neo instead of that pussy ass Chyper.

[–]lastdumra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No. I never understood that mentality.

Being blue pill is horrible, it is miserable.

[–]imtheoneimmortal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is about prospective, you are not 0% BP, you have nuances and that's ok
I got also these moments like "why sometimes things are so harder like lifting, make the 1st mission..."

[–]TheStumblingWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not at all. I prefer knowing what's going on around me and why people say and do the shit they do. I was clueless before and it affected me a lot, and I had no idea why back then.

[–]koedeloe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I have yet to experience it. I'm 22 years old, but I've never been truly in love. I've dated 4 girls, longest one was 5 months. I ended all 4 off the relationships, my heart has never been broken. I think most people need to have their heart broken atleast once before they can stop caring for real. So.. I can't really miss pure and honest love, because I've never had it. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am 22 years old virgin, I've never touched a girl and all the girls I've "dated" were super sweet to me, that they regarded me simply as a friend, as a nice guy they can rely on when Chads fuck and dump them.

I've had my heart broken multiple times. But looking at those heartbroken scenarios, I see a lot of cringe. I see a guy who had no idea what he wanted to do with his life, a guy who couldn't be able to hold a conversation with a girl for more than 10 minutes, a guy who thought he was so special he can't just do small talks because the topics must interested enough to keep him in the conversation... And so on and so on.

It was a mixture of me being an absolute trashy human being and those heartfelt feelings I had to girls. I hated them at some point cuz I was frustrated with their enigmatic behaviour, but simeltanoisly believed that there was one meant for me and one day, "it'll just happen".

Well, fuck that, when I got into TRP and started dating girls (literally 4 girls every week) I started learning how to get closer to the pussy little by little. First dates sucked. I was too anxious to escalate or even to understand that I'm actually in a 1on1 with a girl. But then, it's been already a month since I started this excessive dating thingy, and now I can always seal the hangout with a kiss or very strong kino to at let her know what's up.

I'm still working on my dating skills, but what hurt my "conscience" or my superego is how slutty girls have become today. I've hanged out and kissed girls who have their fucking boyfriends, bro. I don't mind making out with them. I'm hungry for pussy and doesn't matter where I get it from. At the same time, everyone is free to do whatever the fuck they want. But fuck me if at some point do I feel sad about the state of our women nowadays.

I may be talk about this because I have a sister who could have been doing the same thing with other Chads. I would never imagine her to do such thing cuz we were raised to be virtuous and shit. But if she does it, kudos for her, she's just seeking pleasure just like I do, but fucking hell. How could girls be so fickle as to fuck/make out with a guy they've met a week ago over their boyfriends? That's what's fucking me up.

This makes me feel bad about them and myself. Myself for at some point believing that they were actually worth all the passionate romantic naive feelings I've had for them. For them because... Let's face it. If you fuck a girl who has a boyfriend, her fucking LTR is over. She'll see her boy as inferior to you and eventually dump him and look for someone as superior as you.

It's like they have self-destructive nature that you can't do anything about....

[–]HeadingRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't miss it with women - it's actually made me happier being able to predict behavior and by doing that avoid drama.

I don't miss the innocence - I never had that. I miss some of my optimism regarding women I get close to and people in general. I thought I was gifted in my ability to find the "good ones"

Now that I better see what people do, and more often before they do it. Sometimes its a drag but mostly its good.

No I don't miss it - it's lowered the amount of times I get disappointed and hurt.

[–]ArcangeloPT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I understand what you mean. Before TRP I’ve always had LTR’s. Many of which I was deeply in love and I was happy or so I thought. But the last one was the nail on the coffin. It completely shattered me and here I am. Even back then I found myself frustrated and angry but I just didn’t know why. It was me all along. It’s amazing that I was getting laid at all back then but since TRP its been a whole another ballgame.

Gone from purity fantasies and pussy worshiping to having multiple girls over on a daily basis and dating others on the side. I’m not a Casanova by any means I’m just saying that it is something I thought impossible. What’s funny is that I feel the roles are inverted. Being told that I’m so “kissable”, interesting, and a breath of fresh air to the point where I’m getting super testament like texts stating how much of a positive impact I’ve made on my plates lives is something that has become regular with almost 0 effort on my behalf.

Do I miss those times? Yes in a way, there were good times with these girls. I don’t blame them. Would I go back? Never. I’m becoming a man as whole without leaning on any outside source. And that has made all the difference. I truly think that, at least for me, that is what’s at the very core of what it means to be awake. From here it all stemmed for me and it made sense at last.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, and I don’t miss believing in Santa Claus either.

Seeing the world and people for who and what they are is much better than projecting some Disney fantasy on them.

It’s also much fairer for both involved.

TRP preaches that the only person that can make you happy is yourself.

[–]JSuma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I once saw a TRP post about a guy explaining how understanding the game does not mean you cant enjoy it. Though he had many plates, he genuinely cared about each one of them and wished them all the best as they came and went. While I am not at that point platewise, appreciating my emotions for what they are has kept me from feeling like a robot when I must act against them.

[–]BlackVale0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No I don’t miss it at all. I was never really BP to begin with (AA really can’t afford to be). I had a few BP tendencies but I always knew women never really cared about men thanks to my relationship with my mother. My father didn’t really teach me much growing up but he always warned me about women. So I got off a bit lucky.

[–]latinasonly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When I was "blue pill" before learning game , girls didn't give me any attention at all to begin with , treated me like I was some sort of psycho , and in general people used to ignore and belittle me . Do I miss the "innocence" of those days ? No.

[–]TFWnoLTR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, but then I remember how literally every time I actually decided to go back to that attitude I got burned bad. Then I get angry for a bit before calming down. The space between episodes gets longer and the duration shorter as time goes on.

[–]coolredpill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ignorance is bliss

but bliss isn't where you want to be

[–]dariusjames0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Rarely. But yeah,I do miss those times where you were once too innocent. That you would genuinely care about someone. Thinking that there's this person you want to be with and make your relationship work. but when trp kicks in. I just cringe. Like naahh. No way in hell I want to be fucked up anymore or be manipulated and be used chasing girls around, doing anything for them. I'm better and much happier now with all the knowledge and experience i got after taking the red pill.

[–]carb0ncl1mber-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, I don't miss being a slave to my emotions and feelings.

[–]shdai4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

thats not what he asked

[–]Olram_Sacul-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck no. Besides, TRP is not only about women. It is how you see the world and how to act accordingly

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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