What are your takeaways from TRP as a gay man?

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December 8, 2014

Thanks to TRP, I'm pretty sure I went more into 'player mode' and abandoned the soul mate, find-love idea. It taught me that it's not about 'being myself' if I don't have it together; I have to get it together, be hot, masculine, have something in my pockets, look after myself, don't be a pushover, and have a life.

But I feel like the 'plate' theory, the player thing, was something I was already doing, even though it felt like a revelation at the time and I made sure I was 'more actively doing it'. I'm a little nervous that I've been telling myself that TRP is changing my life when the main thing it's done is just made me anti-feminist. Though it did give me a really healthy dose of masculinity, and I've found how much more I genuinely enjoy bonding with males on a fraternal level than hanging out with women, to be fair.

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Title What are your takeaways from TRP as a gay man?
Author should_
Upvotes 5
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Date 08 December 2014 06:14 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit altTRP
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[–]raredare3591 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree completely. I feel like reading everything related to the Red Pill helped to confirm situations I already had a basic understanding of. In a sense, it really did kind of make me anti-feminist as well. I never considered that as a side of effect of becoming "aware", but in a way, it did.

The red pill certainly changed my life. Prior to utilizing game tactics, I wasn't really a "social success". I've developed an immense self-confidence which helped propel me to top 10% at my university, and allowed me to develop a relationship with a total catch.

He's jacked, teach crossfit, very good looking, and went to an Ivy League undergrad and is in the process of applying to med school...yet he's obsessed with me and I experience zero anxiety with the relationship. I am totally 100% and completely in control.

I would not be where I am today if I didn't become aware of these things.

[–]Bearlyred0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're coming to the red pill and not just bitching out when you see it, you've probably already got some inkling of what it's about. No one thing I've read has been a huge discovery, but hearing things explained in the way they are helped me put it together in my mind.

From the red pill I mostly got how women work/why they work the way they do. Again, its stuff I might have always had a gut feeling for but now I consciously understand it. And because I understand it I'm seeing the parallels with how gay guys work too.

As for alttrp in specific, its cool to hear other people say what I've been thinking for a long time. Every time I see a conversation about gay dating/pick up its flowery 'just be who you are' stuff. No one is willing to commit to writing anything about dominance roles or anything like that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

A few things:

1) Nobody is going to ever love you the way that you want to be loved. The gay men that I've noticed tend to be opportunists, much like the women in love thread. Hell- seeing the theory play out, I've seen one of my closest friends is a romantic himself and I saw him completely melt over a girl he met from Dallas when we were in Texas.

2) When it comes to plates, I am a shithead and I deserve that title. TRP doesn't endorse lying to (wo)men, yet I have on occasion. Why? Insecurities and not knowing what I want, otherwise called being beta. Sometimes I have been straight upfront and it turned into a shitshow. That's always fun. So in 2015, I think my new years resolution is to be more honest overall.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'd say that TRP is pretty ambivalent on the issue of lying. If you're in a position where you feel the need to fabricate things to interest a partner you're doing it wrong. However in a strictly amoral sense if lying is more effective than not it's stupid to hold to a one sided honor code. The choice is always up to the individual but it's a little like throwing the Phillips screw driver out of your tool box

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Of course, I agree. The world is filled with a sea of grey and there's risk with every option that you pick. There's exceptions to every rule, so there are situations where it is best to lie.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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