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My letter to an orbiting fatass

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August 8, 2015

I don't recommend doing this. I only met him once a year ago and unfollowed him on Facebook after he friended me; I wrote about this guy hitting on me a while ago and he's made a comeback. We met a year ago and it's been facebook likes, incessant compliments on photos, and a handful of versions of "hey how are you?" from him since then. He just asked me to see a play with him a day ago, and I ignored it with a cool head, but today I responded with the wall of text below. Looking back to five minutes ago when I sent it, it would have been better to not send at all. Less competition if he does improve himself, no likelihood he will cry to our scarce mutual acquaintances from butthurt he will feel reading this...yup this was a bad move. But he is orbiting me so hard he will probably see this as "for the best"; we were in a situation where we were both mad at someone and then he brushed it off for the sake of cooperation while I faced the antagonist head-on and got what I deserved (I got paid; he didn't). But I sent him a little condensed slice of RP and maybe you'll get off from reading it. Then I unfriended and blocked him.

The message was the following; excuse the lack of caps, it was facebook chat:

hey dude, thanks for the offer but i have to pass. on another note, it looks like doing favors and being nice to guys you like hasn't been working, despite years of trying. gays will automatically sleep with and fall in love with anyone tall with muscles. you already have an amazing height but you're not taking full advantage of it. the fairy tales aren't true; any guy who says they like you because you are "so nice" but won't sleep with you is USING you, either for your time, your sympathy to their petty problems, or your money. don't ask me out if i've ignored your messages and it's just a chance for you to get close to me when i'm not showing you respect you deserve or when it's improbable i will sleep with you. if you go to the gym and get shredded, guys will throw themselves at you, [name], because of your height and because you are funny and smart. i'm not saying that to be nice, i'm saying it because it is logical. you will never get a boyfriend just for being nice. don't listen to beyonce and your girlfriends say only the inside matters; being funny and smart will make you great friends but zero hot boyfriends if you are overweight. i'm getting railed by a guy i've never met tonight because he has muscles. he hasn't had to work as hard as you to get me. tomorrow i'm going on a second date with another guy who i really like but i will probably not be his boyfriend because he's not athletic, and i don't want to suffer during sex. this isn't an anomaly, it is evolution and the world we live in. i could take the easy way out and message you "stop harassing me CREEP!" but i know better than that: guys get called creeps when they're unsexy and just trying to get a relationship or laid just like everyone else. just go get sexy by lifting the weights up and down, it is so damn simple, it just takes DISCIPLINE and COMMITMENT. go fuck the weight stack like it's me you're fucking. if you are consistent and work hard, you and i could be competing for the same guy one day after you realize you can do better than me (height gets you more options, unless you're fat). think about what is stopping you from reaching your full potential; getting funny looks at the gym is a poor excuse to throw your life away. and for god's sake let the next message in this chat be me when i see you're ripped and ME saying "hey what're you doing tonight lol", don't let the next message in the chat be you apologizing or praising me for something i said in this status or even "ok", in fact you should not reply to this message at all, what have i ever done for you? you have your whole life ahead of you but you've wasted time and precious youth. get muscles and your entire life will change. i'm unfriending you and will check back to your profile in exactly a year's time. i don't want to hear from you until then.

EDIT: wording in the message I sent him. (yup I unblocked him, rewrote the sentence with an asterisk, sent the sentence to him, then unblocked and unfriended him again.)

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Title My letter to an orbiting fatass
Author should_
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Comments 4
Date 08 August 2015 06:18 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]contrafagotto2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

There are two kinds of people in the world. Those who take pleasure in rejection even to the point of boasting about it, and those who feel at least a bit of someone else's pain.

One of the traps of Red Pill thinking is that it is virtuous to be a jerk. It may get you sex -- at least during your younger years -- but it won't get you much of anything else, should you ever need it. Eventually this is its own punishment as you discover whether anyone wants to be around you when you 50, 55, 60, 65 ... and so on. Those who have a conscience will remember how they used to treat people.

[–]should_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I understand what you mean, and looking again at what I wrote, it does come off as haughty and status-signaling, even though everyone has been chased by a hamburglar at one time or another. It wasn't my intention to come off that way. I posted here because I think I wrote him something valuable and although I have little doubt he saw what I wrote as no more than an elongated insult, I think it is some straightforward and frank advice he isn't going to get anywhere else and might never hear again.

Regarding the two types of people thing, that does resonate with me and I've thought deeply about it. I used to be an incredibly sensitive codependent type and a heart-bleed regarding politics and policies in general and I was the first to console hurt people, but after releasing a lot of anxiety and depression and becoming functional, I find I have an angry streak underneath a usually charismatic persona and only an occasional bite of sympathy, mostly when I'm putting a friendship or boy down, but I know now that that feeling is what's left of a weakness, not a virtue or strength. To be honest, I don't think the pain-resonance with others will come back like before and I don't want it to; I'm getting in touch with a higher love and joy that doesn't say "I feel your pain" and well up in tears when seeing others in pain, but responds instead with something uplifting and more grounded. I am also more libertarian now. But... with the anger that's left, I'm freezing out a lot of acquaintances just by commenting on Facebook statuses that are like "Hollywood doesn't have enough female writers!" and "there's no such thing as racism against white people!" and even when I am as good-natured and logical as possible in response to these half-witted statuses, I know they hate me in my thoroughness because I'm threatening what they believe with my words, and those bridges burning were going through my mind when I was searching for cheap housing and asking on Facebook about it -- my requests probably fell on more deaf ears and lessened my chances of finding shelter. Gotta do your Laws of Power.

My philosophy has been that I don't want to spend time with people who can't deal with things I value like straightforwardness or truths that hurt. I don't want to restrain myself just for the reassurance of other's acceptance. People that appreciate a comprehensive kick in the butt exist and I'm one of them. But that "self" is probably just anger presenting itself in a rational but harsh way, and I need to find better ways to bide my time. I think I need to purge the anger before it causes more problems for me.

EDIT: wording

[–]contrafagotto1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Please pardon me for underestimating you. You are more complex than I realized.

At least you recognize your anger. We are constantly taught that to be angry is a moral failing. I don't think that. There is just too much to be angry about.

There is nothing about Red Pill theory that should override decent principles of moral philosophy. You are a smart person, so I suggest that the next book you might want to read is John Rawls' "A Theory of Justice." No movement is sustainable, or worth supporting, if it is ethically callous or stunted. There's an awful lot of nastiness masquerading as masculinity out in the main TRP group.

Most gay guys have had to endure a lot. Probably only the most beautiful .01 percent grow up being always treated with respect. Can you blame a fat guy for trying?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is quite eloquently worded, my friend. Evolutionary psychology dictates that women tend to go for men with the broad shoulders, the chiseled jaw, because it signifies high testosterone, the sex drive in humans, and also dictates the probability that said man reproduces to continue the human race in the nature of Darwin. This is the tendency of evolution. For everybody else, they can play into their niche; no, not everybody likes a six pack, but they are definitely the minority, yet even among those, a ripped physique always turns those heads, regardless of whether or not dad bods are in or not.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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