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Why is it so difficult finding normal gay guys

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January 23, 2017
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I don't understand why so many gay guys have to act feminine. Every guy I've met, even ones that have admitted to having swallowed the pill have ended up acting fairly gay.

This might be because I myself am a top so maybe it has to do with bottoms. I just want to find a bottom guy who's also down to go see a canucks game or talk about cars or something. Maybe gay men aren't "just guys who like other guys" but instead are actually a totally different kind of man separate from straight guys. Any thoughts?


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Title Why is it so difficult finding normal gay guys
Author vancityguy96
Upvotes 10
Comments 18
Date 23 January 2017 07:26 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit altTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/163403
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[–]Psionx09 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm a bottom. I'm not fem in the least. However, sports and cars don't really interest me.

I know plenty of straight men that don't like cars or hockey. They just tend to be big D&D, sci-fi, technology geeks.

[–]wingedagni6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy

Several thoughts.

One is that historically there is a difference between tops and bottoms. Tops were mostly considered (even in the community) as "regular men" who were just looking for sex. The bottoms were the effeminate guys, taking on the female role.

And look... I hear you now... "what a dated opinion". And sure. But there is a lot of truth in it.

Even the physical act says a lot. One is (typically) more domineering, more assertive, more aggressive. Those personalities are the ones that will enjoy sports and fast cars (in general).

Or look at it this way. Tops and bottoms described as "the active role" vs "the passive role". The passive role will be the one getting their eyebrows waxed and gossiping. The active role will be the person fighting for control of the ball in a game of football, or working on their car.

Basically, despite what everyone wants to believe, bottoms are generally effeminate. The act itself has meaning.

Maybe gay men aren't "just guys who like other guys" but instead are actually a totally different kind of man separate from straight guys.

Read "Gay New York: Gender, Urban Culture, and the Making of the Gay Male World, 1890-1940 by George Chauncey"

Seriously. It will change your opinion of modern gay culture.

[–]Psionx03 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Basically, despite what everyone wants to believe, bottoms are generally effeminate. The act itself has meaning.

I look at it this way - I have to be a bigger man than most other guys to take a nice cock. I know straight men that would cry like a little girl if they had to even attempt it.

[–]wingedagni2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Eh.

First, I was talking in generalities, it dosen't apply to every case.

Second, the only thing that needs to bigger about you in order to take a huge cock is your asshole. The guys into fisting aren't "more of a man" that someone with a regular ass.

Third, pain is a completely separate issue. Some people get off on pain, and I get that... but that isn't part of this discussion. You aren't more of a man that someone else if you happen to be a masochist to some degree. That is neither a masculine or a feminine quantity.

[–]Psionx0-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's interesting that you fall into your own set of fallacies so blindly and then call others on theirs.

[–]wingedagni3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't really understand what this means. I gave you a response to your comment.

If you want to talk about why you think subjecting yourself to pain for sexual pleasure (masochism) makes you more of a man that someone else, we can have that conversation.

But it's kinda clear you don't actually want to defend what you wrote, so instead you make a incoherent personal attack on me.

[–]sir_squints points points [recovered] | Copy

By change your opinion, what do you mean? For the good or bad?

[–]wingedagni1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

... by definition any change of opinion is good, as long as it's rooted in truth and fact.

And I am not sure that I would say "good" or "bad"... I would say that it will show you that modern gay culture / attitudes are far from the historic norm.

I personally view modern gay culture as "bad"... but the book kinda gave me hope that society can shift away from it to a different type of "gay culture".

[–]Psionx00 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

A change of of opinion, or indeed a change of anything is neither good, nor bad.

That value judgement comes after the change has occurred and is a function of the group that is affected by the change.

[–]wingedagni0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

A change of of opinion, or indeed a change of anything is neither good, nor bad.

I disagree. It means that you are learning more, which is a good thing. It means that you are open to change, which is a good thing.

[–]Psionx00 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Again, learning more can be either good or bad. The learning in and of itself has no value judgement attached to it.

[–]ISuckatUsernames31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Again, learning more can be either good or bad. The learning in and of itself has no value judgement attached to it.

This is one of the most blue pilled things I've ever read in my life. Just LEARNING can now be bad if it's the "wrong" kind of truth. A good example of doublethink.

[–]Mideous2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think a lot of this is due to social conditioning and the media. The media refuses to put fourth masculine gay men. I can name a number of masculine gay men working in many different fields from MMA to Tech.

However, if you notice when it comes to gay visibly they go in for the stereotypes. Bright colors. Drag Queens. The Fem. The lisping voice. Those types of guys are visible and will more than likely interact with gay youth first. They look at them and believe that is the way to be because — what else is there. What's worse is if even if the media did start to feature masculine gay men at the forefront, then I'm 100% positive the gay 'community' would flip out and call it homophobic.

At this point in my life I've given up. Its not that I'm super attracted to masculine men. Plenty are handsome and I'm down to roll around in the hay with but I do personally prefer softer guys to be with.

[–]ISuckatUsernames30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or whenever the media does have masculine gay men, they're either there just to teach a lesson, or to fill a diversity quota, or exist just as fapbait. Those are only who're not closeted homophobes. They're not real characters but plot devices. This is not surprising but actually predictable coming from the media. The only exception I can think of is Mitch from Paranorman.

[–]RPswallowingFag1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Define "normal". In this modern time where feminism dominates the dominant paradigm, gays have found it easier and subscribed more to feminism in associating their own identity. Mostly due to a knee jerk reaction of fear at a younger developmental stage to avoid masculinity since that's a lot of where homophobias backlash comes from.

Look, we don't need to support feminism, it's fucking flawed to the core logically and strategically for us men. It doesn't help us gays at all. Swallow the rucking red pill or see our future as enslaved beta bitches, resulting in us being the bottom(haha pun intended )rung in the picking order of 1.Alpha Males/ alpha Gay Males (we don't need to be enslaved by bitches cuz we immune to vagina) 2. Alpha females (super empowered by privileges of feminism) 3. Beta feminised Gays (unwoke but can milk privileges of alpha fag hags) 4. Beta straight males And who the fuck cares about the rest of the order.

RPswallowingFag, signing out.

Stay strong, comrades.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because they are gay?!

[–]TillikumWasFramed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe gay men aren't "just guys who like other guys" but instead are actually a totally different kind of man separate from straight guys.

I've always thought that. Gays are not straight guys. There are aspects of us that are not the same as straight guys, and are more like females, even if we cover it up.

[–]ghosts_of_me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The guys who would fit the relationship you want are mostly all probably closeted, therefore hard to find.



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