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Join the Anti-Ban Petition and Show the Admin who Should Really Be Banned! /r/BanBanouts

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Title Join the Anti-Ban Petition and Show the Admin who Should Really Be Banned! /r/BanBanouts
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 1290
Comments 241
Date 12 September 2018 05:24 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/163642
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/9f9rx4/join_the_antiban_petition_and_show_the_admin_who/
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[–]pm_me_tangibles170 points171 points  (46 children) | Copy

We should ban censorship. The irony is that the exact mentality behind this banwave - not too many years ago - would have prevented feminism, civil rights, LGBT etc.

Shame on them. There can be no progress without dialogue, criticism and engaging with views you dislike.

[–]I_ysk27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shame on them. There can be no progress without dialogue, criticism and engaging with views you dislike.

Absolutely. Here's a good watch on that topic:

Brendan O'Neill's speech at Oxford about the right to offend.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If we were to have a dialogue everyone would become right wing and they know can't have that so they'll call us hateful, racist, and Nazis. But I feel like it's all ready too late.

[–]TheRealBabyCave-37 points-36 points  (40 children) | Copy

Let's stop pretending that someone who genuinely believes in ethnic cleansing needs to be engaged through discourse.

We fought a war against certain ideas. Not all ideas are equal. Calling certain dangerous and toxic beliefs "views you don't like" is the intellectual equivalent of calling Cyanide a "flavor you don't like."

Your high horse is down in a ravine.

Edit:

A lot of repeat questions missing the point of my comment, either purposefully or not.

My comment was not singling out a user or claiming someone is pushing violence.

My comment is only that the notion that ideas can or should only be combatted through discourse is heavily flawed thinking. There are numerous beliefs and ideas that are impervious to discourse, or shout or act over discourse rendering it moot.

Ethnic cleansing was an example of one such belief I provided, but I was not claiming someone was pushing ethnic cleansing. I was only pointing out that it's of little use trying to explain to someone that your life holds value when they're in the middle of trying to kill you.

If you'd like a less extreme example, try explaining to someone intent on robbing your home that they should reconsider. Some ideas, typically those which come along with violent or hateful acts, can be immune to discourse, especially when the person who holds the belief employs a defense mechanism of calling all information, be they facts or opinions, that contest his/her ideas fake news.

[–]BuddhistSC20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're using the very popular but very ineffective strategy of labeling everyone who disagrees with you a "Nazi".

It works on people who already want to hate and disregard all contrary viewpoints, but anyone with a shred of objectivity won't buy it.

[–]TheRealBabyCave-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not labelling anyone a Nazi.

I'm pointing out that discourse doesn't work against certain ideas, and used ethnic cleansing as an example.

[–]grandmasbroach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ethnic cleansing... Like, how the nazis did?

[–]MAGAsquad16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

What exactly are you talking about?

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 13 points14 points  (19 children) | Copy

Be specific. Is there someone advocating violence? Because if there is, I'm going to ban them.

Time limit here. I'm not a huge fan of hyperbole and platitudes.

(Inside protip: Jews are significantly over-represented in the TRP EC and mod staff.)

[–]TheRealBabyCave1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy

My comment was not about a single user.

My comment was about the flawed conception that all ideas are equal, and I used ethnic cleansing as an example.

Not all ideas, especially violent ones, can be combatted through dialogue alone. That is the point.

[–]Galbert1232 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm surprised so many people here are missing your point. Not all ideas should be given a platform, such as pro ethnic cleansing. I get what youre saying.

However, I would argue that its a slippery slope once you start limiting discussion based on an "obviously bad idea" criteria. If theyre just talking, let the stupid arguement fail on its own merit. If the idea turns to acting violently, then yes, its time to act as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, it's like "not all ideas deserve a platform to be talked about" but then who decides which ideas deserve a platform? Him? Me? The Reddit CEO?

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy

It's not like people walk around with signs pinned to them that say things like "I Gas Jews," "Humans Are Tasty" or "Children Give The Best Handjobs." Evil must be allowed to expose itself so it can be managed.

Specific acts of violence are actionable. They will always be immediately removed and the user sanctioned.

As a reminder to everyone, this is The Red Pill. We are not a venue to talk about everything. Anything that is not on topic will be censored. That doesn't mean that speech should be censored everywthere.

[–]TheRealBabyCave1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy

Anything that is not on topic will be censored. That doesn't mean that speech should be censored everywthere.

The juxtaposition in these statements is astounding:

"Anything we decide is not relevant to a discussion will be censored."

"Stop silencing us, even though we silence whatever we like."

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

Need some more straw there?

You know who silences my speech here? Me. I don't talk about things that are off topic. I'm not going to kick in the doors to other subs and tell them to stop their speech because it doesn't follow the rules of TRP.

Yet it would appear plenty of people have no problem behaving like that.

[–]TheRealBabyCave0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

Need some more straw there?

Your initial response to my original comment was clearly a strawman because you tried to distract from my initial point by inserting your own meaning into my comment, but you're going to suggest I'm employing strawman by pointing out the hypocrisy in your statements.

Cool. Glad I visited this sub.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're in a forum that has a topic.

Without moderation, there is no topic.

You are conflating our removal of off-topic items from a topic-based forum with the idea that some topics don't deserve forums.

It's disingenuous.

[–]TheRealBabyCave1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Disingenuity would be suggesting that all ideas should be free to be pushed and given a platform and complaining about a subreddit being banned, while simultaneously censoring ideas based on whatever convenient, subjective line of "relevancy" one decides the drafting of from one moment to the next.

The notion that censored comments are removed due to "relevancy" is a very obvious thin veil.

[–]modTheRedPike1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

tried to distract from my initial point by inserting your own meaning

Weasel words.

Specifically what meaning was I inserting? My original comment was trying to find out what banned behavior was occurring that needed to be removed. That's my job. I couldn't quite get that from your vague and platitude filled comment.

[–]TheRealBabyCave1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Weasel words

Nah, perfect English. Cut the insults, you're a mod. Behave like one.

My original comment was trying to find out what banned behavior was occurring that needed to be removed

Yep, you:

tried to distract from my initial point by inserting your own meaning the notion that I was calling out banned behavior.

I couldn't quite get that from your vague and platitude filled comment.

My comment was neither vague nor platitudinous. I expressed very clearly that not all bad actors can be stopped through discourse, and allowing them a platform is not always a good idea, using genocide as an example of one of those ideas that could not be stopped through discourse alone.

Are we done here, or?

[–]PmWhatUWantOutOfLife2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How else will you ever get them to broaden their view?

Relevant video https://youtu.be/ORp3q1Oaezw

It is only through discourse that we can obtain understanding.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where the fuck did you read the red pill is about ethnic cleansing?

[–]poohead34 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

So the elite jews and politicians who are ethnically cleansing white countries shouldn't be argued with, and we ought to stop them with force? Sounds good to me.

[–]RightWingDeathChad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Who is even talking about ethnic cleansing?

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you bring up that South Africa is being ethnically cleansed, people ignore you. If you take note of patterns that are happening to "white" countries and call out that a literal invasion is occurring they call your racist. They are trying to end the white race and they think we need to encourage and push for this. It makes me sick. We don't advocate for ANY races to be cleansed - but by saying your race is in danger you're somehow the one advocating for it??

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you'd like a less extreme example, try explaining to someone intent on robbing your home that they should reconsider. Some ideas, typically those which come along with violent or hateful acts

So you're saying that all I need to do is correlate hateful action with the person who poses an argument or claim in order to render all discussions with that person or group as futile and unworthy of consideration? Then the problem becomes "who decides what is hateful"? The person who gets offended? And who decides what is "hateful enough to not deserve debate"?

Is your horse so fucking high or are you high?

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

uh, the vast majority of the left are just ignorant of the inevitable end-result of their ideology. by invoking ethnic cleansing you are using the exception to the rule to prove the rule.

[–]theherosmyth0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What you’re saying works in theory, but in reality we’d end up right back in the spot we find ourselves now. Not providing certain ideas a platform to be discussed sounds fair. If you want to talk about ethnically cleansing your country, maybe you shouldn’t get to speak.

The problem is who gets to decide what topics are, or are not permitted to be discussed. Having the ability to not allow certain ideas a platform to be discussed is a powerful mechanism that will want to deploy for their own subjective notion of what is or isn’t good.

Surely, we can all agree about certain topics that should be off limits, but soon enough we find ourselves on a slippery slope. Should people be allowed to discuss differences in intelligence between certain ethnic groups? Or about temperamental differences between the sexes? Or whether or not we should eat meat? For each topic, there’ll be people who think those ideas are so preposterous that they should not be allowed to be discussed.

Look at this sub. What do we talk about here? The truth about intersexual dynamics, informed by evolutionary psychology and biology. I’m sure that doesn’t fully cover the scope of what this sub is about, but it’s besides the point. The fact of the matter is that these ideas, based on reality, can’t be discussed openly without people wanting to shut it down.

The issue is about risk management. There are risks that come with letting such ideas be discussed. But there is also risks associated with disallowing certain topics to be discussed. At least if people are allowed to advocate stupid ideas in the open, these ideas can be refuted. Disallowing the discussion doesn’t make it go away. It just goes into hiding.

[–]TheRealBabyCave0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Surely, we can all agree about certain topics that should be off limits, but soon enough we find ourselves on a slippery slope.

That's intellectually dishonest. There's very distinct line between mentioning the Holocaust in passing to someone or making an offer on color joke and actually passing out material on why we should be starting another one.

We can teach about the history of an idea and educate people on the dangers of an idea without allowing people a platform to actually push that idea. That is not an idea that deserves a platform to be shouted from, in fact, it's expressly dangerous to society.

What I'm talking about here is already in effect. People get arrested for all sorts of things that they say in public. Disorderly Conduct , Disturbing the Peace, even Conspiracy to Commit a Crime. I'm not saying anything new. I'm just telling it like it already is.

[–]theherosmyth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you missed my point. I agree with you on paper, and it strikes me as very common sense which topics shouldn’t be allowed to be discussed (from one’s subjective point of view).

What I was getting at is the fact that we share the planet with people that legitimately think not buying their radically progressive crap makes you worse than Hitler, looking at a woman for a second too long is equal to raping her, and saying or doing anything for the betterment of men makes you a patriarchal misogynist devil.

What I’m asking is, what if those people get to decide what is and isn’t appropriate discussion material? Do you trust them to not abuse that power? The fact that people want to ban this sub perfectly illustrates my concern when regarding what some think should be censored.

[–]ChummerLicious-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, not exactly. Shame on these subs for fomenting hate so agressively.

[–]RandomReeditUser269 points270 points  (18 children) | Copy

I mean, they're literally brigading

[–]mcavvacm239 points240 points  (17 children) | Copy

SJW types are literally some of the most hypocritical people I've ever seen. They'll never even acknowledge it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

It helps when the admins are as SJW-infected as the rest of the trolls.

[–]DareyFathom42 points43 points  (14 children) | Copy

Libtards are political terrorists.

[–]longduckdongger4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Uses the term libtards lol

[–]radixaf30 points31 points  (10 children) | Copy

The solution to false group think isnt more group think like this

[–]1Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

The solution is a catapult and a wall to keep them from coming back.

[–]Phaeer 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Now you are doing the exact same thing as them. We need to be tolerant to the tolerant AND the intolerant. That's the whole point of protesting this BanOut.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Tolerance of marxist ideologies is what allowed them to destroy essentially every great Western civilization in history.

[–]Phaeer 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Or have western civilization just failed at raising their youth to carry on their success? Censoring people because of a difference of opinion is not the answer regardless.

[–]Feliponius0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Western civilizations have allowed subversive ideas to gain access to their facilities of education at every level. From preschool straight to college, where it’s hold is strongest.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Thats not group think, its common sense think. Everyone can see that the ideas that stems from the left are contradictory, eg. tolerance for islam yet being the ones who advocate the hardest for homosexual rights etc.

[–]radixaf2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes it is. That’s the kind of stuff i see on the r/the donald or r/politics...humans are hypocritical its not exclusive to any ideology

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

So you have, per default, to go against everyone? Seems like an extreme impossible form of contrarianism.

[–]radixaf-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This type of political post isnt what trp is about.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your post is political.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The protocols of the elders of zion goes full libtard, thats why all this is happening

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's happening because we don't have any real problems in the west and people lose perspective. Particularly overly emotional people that likely wouldn't be voting in large enough numbers to make a difference if proper barriers to voting were established.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because they're "in the rightTM "

[–]caunteris2152 points153 points  (18 children) | Copy

Id say we are fukt, if they find that post about tennis.

The reddit ceo is her husband I mean

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill29 points30 points  (14 children) | Copy

Shall we take it down then? No I wrote that post, and I didn't realize it then. What do the mods think?

[–]Drunk__Doctor 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Keep the post up. Never be ashamed of the truth even if it gets us banned. We can find a new home elsewhere if need be.

[–]orangemars200019 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

This entirely. Can't say I agree with everything that gets posted here, but that's no reason to ban a subreddit. Moreover, there are a lot of extremely salient issues that aren't discussed anywhere else.

There's no effective difference between this sub being banned and allowing it to be neutered by censure. I hope it stays up.

[–]RedPilledRoaster2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Law 22: Use the surrender tactic: Transform weakness into power.

When you are weak, never fight for honor’s sake; instead choose surrender instead. Surrender gives you time to recover, time to wait for his power to wane. Do not give him the satisfaction of fighting and defeating you-surrender first. By turning the other cheek, you infuriate and unsettle him. Make surrender a tool of power.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TL:DR - Grow a rationalization hamster. That law right there, sums up everything.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fuck that. Thats what they want.

[–]caunteris20 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well Apparently they cannot ban the site, so they just get shittons of people leaving their application/site just because they decided to ban a community. Fuwken mongols :v

[–]wanderer7791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

the funny thing is that once the left drives off the right, they will follow them wherever they go (4chan for example). They can't stand people having a conversation that goes off their script. They want you to submit and learn to love big brother.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah.

[–]Firebluered0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just read it, and now I'm laughing about the whole situation.

[–]Serious_Tour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Could you explain what the following post means?

http://archive.is/iF2ro

I just woke up and don't understand what's honestly going on.

[–]GoldenCocaine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Shall we take it down then? No I wrote that post, and I didn't realize it then. What do the mods think?

I honestly would recommend removing it. Losing this growing community over one post is not worth it. Seriously. Being stubborn here isn't the right move

[–]warthundersfw2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Which one

[–]MaximiliionPegasus1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I just read that because of you, and now I'm laughing at the whole situation.

[–]caunteris20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Quite funny considering two of the mentioned subs in banout2018 were deleted for that.

[–]Fulp_Piction257 points258 points  (35 children) | Copy

Surely this is a thought exercise more than anything. I couldn't give a fuck about the rest of reddit as long as they stop trying to illegitimately shut down legitimate discourse.

[–]uebermacht62 points63 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sign the petition then brother!

[–]Fulp_Piction28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Already done!

[–]throwaway46819 1 points [recovered]  (16 children) | Copy

It isn't, they've already managed to ban the vast majority of subreddits that they wanted to. Including quite a few subreddits that clearly had no hate in them, other than thinking Trump was actually not going to fuck over the world.

I personally really don't like Trump, and I think he has screwed up a lot in many ways. However, just like I'm allowed to think and express that I don't like Trump, people should be allowed to think and express that they do like Trump.

(That being said, I also don't think Trump is the antichrist either. He's not a good president, but that could be said about virtually any of them)

[–]Mescalean33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like someone runs off logic and not emotion.... they dont like that /:

[–]supremesamurai0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, sounds like most of the pussies running this site and other large tech companies.

[–]simple_beauty16 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy

I personally think there is a game being played by the world's most powerful to keep humanity's collective mind in a fear-state. So they are systematically shutting down any form of group conversation that doesn't invoke fear or terror in the subjects. 9/11, I think, was controlled and was done as a means of causing mass-trauma in our country/world. When you are traumatized, you can be programmed, basically, because of the fear that consumes the mind. When we are afraid, we make our worst decisions and consume more than we need. We distort reality when we are afraid, and we continue handing power over to those who act confident and those who tell us what is happening.

[–]RedPilledRoaster4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah they’re the reddit admins

[–]simple_beauty2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guess they’re some of ‘them’.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think, was controlled and was done as a means of causing mass-trauma in our country/world. When you are traumatized, you can be programmed, basically, because of the fear that consumes the mind. When we are afraid, we make our worst decisions and consume more than we need. We distort reality when we are afraid, and we continue handing power over to those who act confident and those who tell us what is happening.

truer words could not be spoken bro.

[–]simple_beauty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

An unfortunate truth, my dude.

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is the truth. They want a single track narrative for EVERYTHING - they do NOT want discourse. They want us fearful and divided, as we're weak and controllable in that state. They want sheep that listen to authority and never question it. Someone has a lab coat on? Trust every single word that leaves their mouth. They - and I hope you know who I'm talking about - are really ramping it up and it's getting insane.

[–]simple_beauty0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Who would you say ‘they’ are? Just curious of your perspective.

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Those in power and control. It's easy enough to find. It is a very small group population-wise but hold the top 1% of powerful positions across all industries - especially finance.

[–]Fulp_Piction1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Jesus, we're not seriously getting into a 'not if I ban you first' scenario. This is just a way to hold a mirror up to the admins to show how hypocritical it would be to decide to follow through with the ban. Good tactic.

We have backup forums anyway. The information is what's important, not the medium. Fuck Reddit.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

There's a zero percent chance we're getting anybody banned.

There's a much higher percent chance we can stir the shit pot. It's how we get most of our members.

[–]jordanbadland1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

yo by the way why can't I subscribe to that subreddit?? I keep clicking but nothing's happening

[–]bluesnsouls1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hell, thats how i got here, thank you random shit poster on my /r/RelationshipAdvice post

[–]ChummerLicious-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

You know this isn't the town square, right? The owners of this site are free to choose what discourse they want published on thier site. Surely as a red blooded American you understand that?

[–]Fulp_Piction2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yep, absolutely, I'm all for a free market and control over what you own. As long as they can say 'hey we're stopping you guys discussing shit because we just don't like it, and would rather exist in our own bubble'. Fair enough.

I can only speak for myself and say the sidebar, the EC's and big writers in the manosphere generally hit the nail on the head. There are definitely people who don't like the message, and don't have to, free country etc. but for a lot of the people subbed here it's a net positive. It's just harsh truth. Yeah people take it too seriously, troll the page or give shitty advice when they're bitter - then get cherrypicked to support a narrative of 'neckbeard rapists hurr durr' but thats a weak and surface deep argument. TRP, with critical thinking and common sense, is way more beneficial to practically everyone than the bullshit alternatives. But who cares, give the hard left a haven and reap in the ad revenue.

If you want to explore and understand what happens when you protect people from harsh truth check out 1984, or Huxley's Brave New World. Huxley's in particular does a better job of explaining the point I'm trying to make than I can.

I know I went off on one there, but I think it's a good point so I'll leave it in.

Not american btw.

[–]ChummerLicious-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

I see someone just finished freshman English. BNW and 1984, really?

[–]Fulp_Piction1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

The books are easily accessible, ergo they don't make valid points. Lol.

Grace us with your complex philosophical genius then, Homer.

[–]ChummerLicious-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nah just seemed like a pretty low effort way to make yourself sound smart by spouting off well known dystopian fiction. Made me chuckle. As for TRP stuff, I'm of the opinion this sub is trash.

[–]Fulp_Piction1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]ChummerLicious-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks, but I'll still be keeping the opinion that TRP is mysoginistic trash.

[–]chad9k-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m all for free speech but weren’t they banned for brigading and targeting different people? Surely if that’s what they’re promoting, that’s reasonable grounds for being banned?

[–]Typ_calTr_cks5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was there. Shit never happened.

[–]WorldController-47 points-46 points  (6 children) | Copy

Alt-right, quasi-fascist bullshit is not legitimate discourse.🙄

[–]Fulp_Piction33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh no, here come the radical left, quasi-faacist bullshitters haha

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wants to ban free speech. Screeches about fascists.

Pick one.

[–]humanoid1234510 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are the problem.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

All speech is legitimate discourse (outside of violent threats). Just like you're legitimately reading this voluntarily. If it was all nonsense and untrue, you would simply ignore it and call it the ravings of a crazy person.

No, you want to ban it because what is said here is truth, and it bothers you. The truth bothers you so much that you can't stand it. You hate us here, yet you can't stop thinking about us.

The flat earth theory is complete and total bullshit, but people talk about it all day. You don't care, because they are lunatics. We aren't, and you know it. That is why you want to censor us instead of someone else.

[–]BangkokPadang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Impolite difficult speech is what must be protected.

Your qualifier that any given political affiliation’s speech isn’t really speech is itself anti free-speech.

[–]tc8029192 points93 points  (11 children) | Copy

A redpill forum on a standalone site wouldn’t be a bad thing imo.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 105 points106 points  (3 children) | Copy

Your wish is my command. https://www.forums.red/

[–]FullOfShiznit59 points60 points  (0 children) | Copy

... with automatic reddit TheRedPill sub synchronisation

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know, If you make a post on TRP we could all just migrate and fund an off reddit forum with user accounts comments ect, the whole jam

I'd donate!

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

We have done exactly that! We made https://www.trp.red for offsite meeting (open now), and https://www.forums.red as an archive and future forum which will be opened if we ever leave here.

Donations are always welcome!

[–]platoonpluto1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

I think this is the answer, ideally hosted in Russia with a proxy domain service to prevent take downs should it ever come to that. The only other option would be TOR but that would make it a lot harder to interact.

[–]Darkone0615 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy

Russia?

Out of all the countries with more liberal internet laws you choose Russia?

Sweden and the pirate party would probably be a way safer bet.

[–]platoonpluto1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was taking the view of where would TRP views be least likely to be purged/banned. Couldn’t see Russia banning TRP, could definitely see Sweden doing so.

[–]Phaeer 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Sweden must be one of the worst countries in this regard. They are a whole country full of SJW's, minus the 17% who just voted SD.

[–]Darkone06-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

The pirate party takes internet freedom seriously. They haven't been able to take down the pirate Bay I think they could do more to help than Russia who would use this information for political gain.

[–]RedPilledRoaster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m assuming we’ll cross that bridge when we get there.

[–][deleted] 159 points160 points  (1 child) | Copy

Signed.. I was born in Iraq during Saddam’s era and I know the thought police when I see them and those guys fit the description perfectly. Intolerant and refuse to listen and will guide your thought process towards their goal and would through people in jail and cut their tongues if you tell a joke about Saddam or his regime .I survived those guys and I refuse to be silenced by some keyboard warrior who judges me from behind the monitor because their safe space was invaded by “unsafe” thoughts that didnt fit their feeble and rose colored reality.

[–]hash_bang224 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well said.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lmao who gilded this

[–]Galbert1232 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The irony haha

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen47 points48 points  (28 children) | Copy

As always when these things happen, it's useful to remind oneself of the fact that this is not the direct result of the SJWs pushing for it or some higher thinking proces based on morals, but ultimately purely based on the distinct hope for profit:

https://archive.is/EVE0G

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (26 children) | Copy

Feminism is the logical progression of capitalism. Double the workers, double the tax base, lower the wages, etc. Not surprising at all

[–]chogbonna3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy

I don't understand the correlation here..

[–]The_RedWolf19 points20 points  (13 children) | Copy

The quick and dirty meaning is that when both parents are working you can charge double for rent, you’ll buy double the things etc. and that becomes the new normal

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy

Except this happened as a direct result of World War II. Not feminism. Feminism is cancer. Not Capitalism.

[–]Darkone068 points9 points  (10 children) | Copy

It happen cause of capitalism, if I can find someone cheaper to exploit why wouldn't I.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy

Who’s cheaper? Men and women are paid the same

[–]Darkone0616 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yeah there paid the same, half of what a men used to make.

It's a rat race to the bottom.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (6 children) | Copy

I’m not sure what that means. People are doing better then they ever have. Look at what even the poorest of people have now.

What is happening is that women are taking jobs and then quitting their career at 35 to have kids. A career that someone else could of had and continued. But to each their own.

[–]Darkone069 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

Half of Americans can't afford basic necessities and are one pay check away from being homeless.

Almost a quarter of students in America live in a household below the poverty line.

Things aren't good for the average American. Wages have been stagnant for the last twenty years while all cost of living has increased.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/50-million-american-households-cant-afford-basic-living-expenses-2018-05-18

[–]BrackOBoyO4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

if you double the labour pool without doubling the available jobs, average wages will tend towards 50%.

When working class women entered the workforce, they effectively gave their husband's boss a lot more power over them both and therefore over the entire fabric of that part of society.

[–]MarinTaranu1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The idea is that if you have a larger labor pool, you can drive down wages, the chance that you will find a hungrier potential employee than your current one is higher.

[–]The_RedWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not denying just trying to explain his possible thoughts

[–]humanoid1234517 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really? He basically explains it in the comment.

[–]2wiseclockcounter-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Aaron Russo talking about the intent behind feminism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpjmvaIgNA

[–]wrekd0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Feminism is cultural Marxism. So not really a progression of capitalism. It pushes for equality of outcome not opportunity.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminism is funded by the establishment elites. The same elites that Marxists want to behead.

[–]wrekd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's funded by a few zealots but mostly beta people that would rather pay them to go away than cause them any issues by taking a stand. Whether it's burning Nike on the right, or boycotting Chick-fil-A on the left, if you piss off your base it will cost you. It's a PC extortion tax.

[–]Akslepios 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

If only conservative Americans understood that. Check MGTOW and people think feminism is socialism and they blame all blame Marx for it. WTF?

[–]lingonn4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Feminist ideas are not socialist, but radical feminism and radical left ideas have a strong correlation.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't mix radical feminists with liberal feminists. Radical feminists are not inherently liberal. For example, radfems are heavy against trans, pedophilia, porn and prostitution which are all (except pedo?) virtually accepted and promoted by libfems.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Feminism is endorsed and funded by big business. The same bourgeois elites that Marxists literally want to behead.

[–]wrekd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because women spend more money. They don't care about the cause. They care about who spends. Just see the NFL and pink shoes. It's fucking marketing to those who spend more.

[–]AlexDr0ps48 points49 points  (5 children) | Copy

It is truly mindblowing how people are not only okay with, but actually encourage reddit silencing opposing viewpoints.

Like I'm sure most people here disagree with leftist ideals but I can not fathom the amount of brainwashing it takes to be so set-in-stone with your beliefs you refuse to even have others discuss alternatives in the same domain. It is so blatantly obvious that they fear us and what could become if enough men realized what is going on

[–]WanderingTaurus 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Some people have a huge problem expanding their mind and actually learning. They rather be stuck in their hive mind like mentality and just repeat what has been force fed to them rather than actually taking time to look in to what they have been told and see if it all really is true.

[–]heysoos6663 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

you should ask yourself where the brainwashing starts. understanding the source and attacking it (boycotting) is the most effective way to handle it

[–]Luckyluke233 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

its why the alt left if doomed to fail man

[–]haroldpeters1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not ok with it. I think its disgraceful. TBH we have needed more sites with freespeech as their main tenant for a while.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck that sub. I thought subs that facilitate brigading was against Reddit's Terms of Service, hmm???

BRB, going to set up my own sub to target users to report threads and subs to the admins I think should be banned. I only have about 8 million users at my disposal between all the subs I admin across my various accounts.

[–]spartan13379 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just hope all the stuff here especially the sidebar stuff is backed up

[–]ShotgunTRP21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m confused and don’t understand that sub and it’s political double speak

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm afraid we actually can't tolerate that. It's rule 2.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

Reddit is fucked, folks. A petition is pointless. You don't negotiate with actual book burning fucking Nazis who are taking away your ability to have a discussion.

Thats so stupid. It's like as dumb as Jews asking the Nazis to have the temperature of their furnace turned down a little bit it.

Reddit is fucked. And it is time to abandon ship.

[–]StrongerFasterBigger-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

And go where?

[–]anonylaw25 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

How many times has a petition actually worked for this side of the internet? I just see petitions left and right with no results. Isn't there more that can be done?

[–]funkysoulsearcher1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep the best thing everyone can is leave.

[–]1RPAlternate428 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

And then any name that signs it is shadow banned instantly.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This recent purge is a fucking disgrace. Anything not in lock-step with social justice and feminist-inclined progressivism is getting banned. No room for dissenting discussion means Reddit can fuck right off.

[–]uebermacht2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This event is interesting:

Admins and mods from various subreddits already reacted to this BanOut.
If you want to visit the subreddit „ValueSelect“ for example, you will find a message with "Not a hate sub. Leave us alone.". The whole sub has been set on private due to this events.

A lot of subs on the "Phase" list are private due to this.

If you haven't read, pretty interesting thread here: https://archive.fo/ywbcm

Either it's a gigantic bluff or they really are successful with banning subs.

Edit:
It seems like the reddit admins are using the BanOut as scapegoat for banning subs.
Proof here: https://archive.fo/MAV4N

[–]Jailhouseredpilled933 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

As far as I'm concerned TRP is Reddit. It always has been for me.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

The redpill community wont really be affected if theredpill gets banned, right? I'm sure there is enough support for a standalone site

[–]ahackercalled4chan11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

trp.red

[–]funkysoulsearcher4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just a warning for users browsing at work - some webfilters class this site as pornography for some reason

[–]haroldpeters1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

/r/Greatawakening just got banned 11 hours ago.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I dont even know what that is

[–]ToaKarn2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think we all know where this is going. There's no winning against Reddit, even if we were to assume the rest of the site didn't hate us.

Godspeed, my brothers.

[–]Slex4592 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The admins won't care about a petition. This banning is about winning the midterm elections. There is too much money and power involved.

[–]YoungManHHF0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

whats the point of these "midterm elections"? not from U.S.

also in what way reddit ban affects it?

[–]SendPaintingOfSquid2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

To think they guy who created the ban out gave me Gold twice from his kindness

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let them ban TRP. Do we really want to be increasing unique visitors (and in turn, revenue) for a tyrannical site like reddit? Maybe it's time TRP finds its own permanent home.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

where to sign ?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just make a new thread in /r/banbanouts

[–]WhiteGhosts1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

politics ruined reddit.

[–]timtom61 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can they actually do that and why would they anyhow. What happend to freedom of speech.

[–]Darkone067 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

The government is not prosecuting you. Freedom of speech only applies to freedom from government prosecution. A private business can kick you out for any reason. This is a private business.

[–]RedPilledRoaster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah this is the thing. Really, Reddit can do whatever the fuck it wants.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That isn't how freedom of speech works, I'm afraid.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wth. They also have subs like r/the_donald and r/leagueoflegends in the same phase 4 ban list. Can they really do it? This seems insane. Banning people and subs, even game related forums, just because it is not pleasing them. Is this what the Reddit has become? If this thing goes through I'm done and moving to other platform.

Wtf. Seriously. What has happened??

[–]--____notfunny____--1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

There was a backup wasn't there ? (Apart from trp.red), if correct, please share the link.

[–]soonerguy97820 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Forums.red

The forums for trp.red

[–]Keyann1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So let me get this straight, we're protesting Reddit banning communities because that's a violation of free speech?

[–]kangindanorf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've never posted in here but I'm subscribed and have been reading on and off for a year..lately I've been really putting work into taking the pill all the way to my core ..if this subreddit gets banned I thank y'all guys for help in guidance of men and will miss the banter from my fellow brothers ..just thought I would say thank y'al

[–]Rian_Stone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–]Meeseeksyourtits1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t know what they think a ban will do. It’s not like the men on this sub will somehow stop being insufferable cocks. They’ll just move on elsewhere and continue to be a scab on the dating world for all the poor singles out there. Lol.

[–]ahackercalled4chan3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

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[–]EmperorofEarf4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

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[–]TheRealMewt3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here here

[–]Lionlocker0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Just one hour ago, they have banned the subs that contained all the information needed to make the sheep understand exactly how and who is deceiving and controlling everyone.

They Banned a peaceful community dedicated to research and support of anti-corruption.

Mathematical probability states that the coincidences regarding the seventeenth letter of the alphabet are EXTREMELY IMPROBABLE to be just coincidences.

They are coming for this place next, and they will succeed.

Are you surrendering now? Enjoy the decline in a bluepill world?

Find MEANING now and join forces with the ones that are being banned. Have FAITH that other people are willing to stand up. This is IT. This is the final backlash they receive with their ill-advised censorship.

THE WORLD IS WATCHING.

[–]7a7p 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

The fuck are you talking about?

[–]Chit-Chad1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I've been living under a rock, can someone provide a link or short explanation of what's happening and why does it sound like TRP is going to be banned from Reddit?????

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you just search banouts2018 on reddit you'll figure it out, but I'll give you a layman's tldr.

Very sensitive people (I think reddit admins/mods as well) have decided to group up and ban, or rather try and ban, any subreddit that goes against their opinions. Not only subreddits but also certain users associated with the subs. Now whether users got permabanned or "shadowbanned" is unclear to me, and that's pretty much it. It's the most sjw thing reddit has done yet imo

[–]SgtBrutalisk8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

A certain black female tennis player married to a Reddit owner recently had a meltdown that cost her the match; any subreddit mocking that moment got banned.

[–]afkb39sdfb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I found this sub 5 years ago at ~7,000 subscribers. Even then the sub "is going to be banned any day now" circle jerk was going on. Five years later it's still here, this circle jerk happens once or twice a year, usually after some other sub like fatpeoplehate gets banned.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't believe I've ever committed hate speech, so if I'm banned I wont be back.

[–]DesiForever0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I am new to TRP. Wtf is happening. Will we have some sort of mirror of all these posts if something happens ? I have a lot to learn.

[–]modTheRedPike1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

trp.red

[–]finelicks0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Is there a separate database where I can access all of r/ theredpill ‘s content, just in case they do ban us

[–]modTheRedPike0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

trp.red

If the balloon goes up, it'll have much of it.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]NormalAndy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can we not just promote the trp site and vote with our feet instead?

I’ve had my share of fluffy kittens....

edit: (registered for trp.red - nice extra security later!)

[–]wtf_is_taken0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ppl are getting mad for no reason.

[–]Coregod1090 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Aren't the mods from the banout2018 sub just flagging other reddits? If so couldn't we just band together with some other reddits like 4chan to do the same to them. Don't really know if this would have any impact

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No mass reporting. That's against reddit TOS.

We will peacefully protest.

[–]Coregod1090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like a better idea

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tsk, as if we could give a shit if they ban us.
True, reddit is handy, both for learning as for lulz, but if they think they'll eliminate trp by banning it on reddit we're in for a lot of the latters

[–]Johnnadawearsglasses0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Am I reading it right that the actual “threat” is that if admins don’t ban these sites, the mods will start banning participants from the sub-Reddits they mod? If so, I hereby un-subscribe from such august sub-Reddits as “aww”, “animals beingbros” etc. I may be sad for a day not seeing dogs making faces that mimic human (sorry “hooman”) emotion for food, but I shall persevere after I reckon.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]VennHearts0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry, I've been out of the loop. Can someone please update me?

[–]eluethero0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can silence one's speech by using force, yet it backfires and becomes loud in people's minds and hearts most of the time. All kinds of censorship unless it is extremely sensitive (in fact i do not believe anything is sensitive but that is just me, many people have strong grasp on their beliefs) material or topic which can cause chaos and disorder.

I support this petition with all my heart.

[–]dewzahundred0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the only way to win is not to play

[–]Prison4SideofBeef0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When is the last time a petition ever changed anything on an internet message board?

[–]TheFallingCosmos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So if we should get taken down where would we revive our great community?

[–]Questionnaire70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Call me dumb but that whole thing went over my head. It read as though it was supposed to be a logical fallacy kinda joke.

[–]wanderer2319880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think they will not ban us. They need us. It is like when girl can not get rid of her Chad lover.

[–]Darkone06 1 points [recovered]  (14 children) | Copy

I don't get TRP obsession with Trump.

Dude is the biggest blue pill asshole in the world and he is parede here as if he were some savior.

Him and his supporters are delusional and the faster we drain the swamp of them and their bullshit the faster we can lock them all up in Guantanamo Bay.

We need to get back to science based decisions and stop running this country on feels.

Elections 2016 were an inside job!

[–]duckyhs 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

Go outside and play with the other children. Adults are in here speaking.

[–]carpenterio 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Where are they? You mean you? did you take your fedora off first?

[–]Darkone06 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Shit I wish we had an adult in office, at this fucking point I'll even take W Bush back.

Anyone that isn't this toddler in chief.

[–]duckyhs 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

We finally get a president that can speak his mind and has channels where he can speak directly to the people without having to go through the media, takes shit 24/7 from the MSM and so far is doing a hell of a job as president. But because some documentaries claimed he some how might be a "narcissist" without any proper medical consultation. Doesnt give a shit what people think about him, very level headed, hes some how the toddler in chief? Give me a fucking break. Apparently people are gullible to every little propaganda piece about him.

[–]Darkone06 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

It's not the presidents job to be a Twitter troll online. He doesn't speak for himself he speaks for all of us. This whole country is being held hostage every time he tweets.

A president can't just say what's on his mind recklessly, it could start a war or kill the stock market.

[–]duckyhs 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

But it hasnt been recklessly, if it has then where are all these wars and conflicts? The fact that people are so brainwashed by msm talking points thinking hes unhigned, going to be starting wars, hes the bad scary orange cheeto man in charge of nuke codes just shows how effective the propaganda is. Your reality vs actual reality are 2 completely different things.

[–]funkysoulsearcher 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Omg! U need to debrainwash

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Whine about national politics elsewhere.

[–]RedPilledRoaster1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did you just say WHITE?!?!?!

HATE SPEECH

[–]modTheRedPike0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Goddamn it....

[–]Darkone060 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's what I'm saying. TRP is only going to get ban if we keep sucking in Trumps dick.

If we just stick to male topics and stop taking about Trump like he is the embodiment of TRP principles or the 2nd coming off Jesus we will be fine.



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