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Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.

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Title Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 92
Comments 22
Date 29 November 2018 03:57 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/163730
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[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (3 children) | Copy

I post this in relation to my other post: Removing Power From Men : Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son.

This is evidence that media has been doing their job to normalize in the extreme LGBT behaviors. With extreme over-representation, young, impressional minds are apt to emulate the behaviors they see on tv.

Whether or not this primarily to confuse the next generation, it has certainly helped change the minds of family-court judges who rule that it is child abuse not to indulge your children in these behaviors.

The overestimation may also reflect prominent media portrayals of gay characters on television and in movies, even as far back as 2002, and perhaps the high visibility of activists who have pushed gay causes, particularly legalizing same-sex marriage.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 20 points21 points  (5 children) | Copy

Over the decades, most scholarly discussions I've seen estimate an upper bound of 8-10%. I've never seen estimates over 20%, perhaps because of discounting sources that are obviously biased for or against LGBT interests.

Food for thought: One of TRP's ironclad maxims is: Sexual attraction cannot be negotiated. In light of this, what level of exposure, depiction, or "normalization" of gayness does anyone think will incentivize people to "decide" to be gay?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personally the only thing that really bothers me is how completely incorporated it's become into some peoples identity, and how very young children are now questioning their sexuality.

I wouldn't really care if 25% of people actually were gay, because it doesn't really affect me at all. If a bunch of actually heterosexual adults want to think they are gay or trans, let them.

I don't think it has anything to do with the level of exposure. It's more about how it's depicted. Far too many people put value into their sexuality, and in movies etc. their homosexuality is often viewed as central for their personalities. Not to mention identity politics making it worse.

Stop putting so much value and emphasis on peoples sexuality and the "trend" will die down as well.

[–]Proto_Sigma 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The formation of fetishes during early adolescence could potential increase the number of gays if otherwise heterosexual individuals are exposed to homoerotic stimuli and begin to associate said stimuli with their sexuality. The sexualization of anthropomorphic cartoon characters led to the emergence of the ‘furry’ phenomena for similar reasons.

So, yes, I would expect the LGBT’s share of the population to increase, although the magnitude of the increase is difficult to predict.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I was taught 1 in 4 in high school.

[–]MoDuReddit 38 points39 points  (12 children) | Copy

23%. This is what you get after 2 decades of political indoctrination in schools. People think a quarter of every woman is munching carpet. A QUARTER OF ALL WOMEN.

Now let me remind you that, according to the Kinsey report, there are as much Asexuals as there are every other sexual deviant. So, that would potentially mean half the women are deviant.

Also, the Kinsey report states a 10% MAX of gays, on either gender.

[–]1Imperator_Red 33 points34 points  (3 children) | Copy

Kinsey is also garbage. If you do a survey on sexual practices in the 1950s, you’re going to get an overrepresentation of people with sexual deviancy who want to participate. Average Joe who works in the factory with a wife and three kids wants nothing to do with you.

[–]MoDuReddit 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're right. Even his number's have to be regarded as the absolute max on the error bar.

[–]1Imperator_Red 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, an "error bar" is the statistical confidence interval of your results based on the size of your sample size and some other factors. If the entire sample is biased in the first place then any results and confidence intervals are invalid.

For example if you look at historical standardized test scores for a given high school, you might say "based on past results we predict our school's average test score will be at the 60th percentile, with a 95% confidence interval of 55th to 65th percentile."

If you only looked at the AP classes though, and said you predict 80th percentile with a confidence interval of 75th percentile to 85th percentile, that error bar is worthless for predicting the general student body's performance.

[–]MoDuReddit 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I stand corrected. Still, to my knowledge, it's the best data source on the subject we got.

[–]menial_optimist 18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

Pretty soon it will be looked down upon if the girl is not at least bisexual. Then naturally it will form into "You're not a lesbian? Wow, get with the times". Maybe that's the goal in the end, to reduce population growth by increasing same sex tendencies.

[–]MoDuReddit 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah, I've seen those "lesbians". When they turn 35, oh boy are they straight and looking for a baby daddy.

[–]i_the_throwaway_86 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've seen something similar at my work.

I was shocked to find out one was a lesbian or at least, bi, as this person constantly goes out of their way to talk to me, sit next to me, and flirt, etc. (Keep in mind this is the hottest woman at a company of 850, but I don't date at work)

The other day I was on the heavy bag, and for no reason, she came in and sat the big yellow exercise ball like right next to the bag and stood facing me like a weirdo. I ignored her to keep from accidentally hitting her (would be a great thing to explain, can you imagine?) So some work buddies and I get to talking about her on lunch. One buddy said she definitely liked me, and another said no she's lesbian and has a gf. I said bullshit, checked her Intsa and yep! At a pride event with her gf on her shoulders.

Also, a totally separate woman who was in an LTR with a woman WITH KIDS hugged me and patted my ass our xmas party. (It was early, she wasn't drunk)

Totally normal lesbian behavior.

Bet you can't guess the conclusion I draw: They'd been with too many bitch boys.

[–]SteveLorde 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not... it's a brainwashing method to weaken country's men.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The 23% figure probably counts LUGs; you know, those women who date other women for attention and/or to piss off parents...until they need resources and date men again

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In fairness, I know a lot of women that identify as straight but have no problem fondling boobs or tickling tuna in the right setting. Who can't like boobs, right? They will never say they are gay. Most will avoid admitting to being bi. Many will say they have experimented, even if the duration and frequency of the experiments seem to indicate a long term trend.

The real lesson here isn't that many women will touch pussy. It's that their self identity is as eternally moldable to whatever suits a particular situation. Some nights, tuna puncher fits the bill.

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[–]3nebder 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re not wrong in your premise you just read the article headline and went running off from there.

The article and headline states Americans think 23% of the American population is gay. Self reported numbers are holding steady at ~4%.

Its the gap between 4% actual and 23% perception that is being brought to light here.

[–]-uftw- 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had seen a UK survey about 10 years ago that gave a 1 to 1.5% gay estimate in the total population. If you include bisexuals, the 3.8% figure is plausible.

Now of course gays live in gay ghettos in big cities so it's not a surprise that they tend to overestimate their numbers.

BTW, now who's gonna talk about the over-representation of gays in fashion & TV & entertainment in general? lol that'll be the day.

[–]Nocryingok 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Who on earth believes 23% of people are gay? Jesus christ, some of them are living inside of a queer bubble

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Eh, might aswell be tradtards who lives on a farm somewhere, who only gets their news from Fox and think the world is sliding into some homosexual dystopia.