Why you don't want a woman as your boss

MikeyCSGO · 2014-06-16T13:52:45+00:00

Can't just blame this one on her being a chick. I've had some pretty terrible bosses in the past that pretty much acted the same way.

However taking advice as personal attacks is something I see women do far more then men.

Strict_Vagitarian · 2014-06-16T15:45:14+00:00

I've never had a female boss that was able to do her job competently, I'm not saying that they don't exist, just that I've never had one.

In a retail job as a teenager the supervisor didn't like me because her boyfriend, who was 4 years younger than her and started at the same time as me, didn't like me. So she used that as an excuse to try to tell me what to do and get me in trouble, didn't work as I was on good terms with the manager.

A bit older and I had a janitorial sort of job, in this my mother was my boss and the less said about that the better. It was a shitshow.

I spent a year on an IT helpdesk under a female manager, she'd never had a managerial role before so a lot of her mistakes can be blamed on inexperience. However, every time I told her something that I expected to be in confidence she'd run off and tell the director. If I said "I'm feeling unappreciated as I'm doing more work than any of these people and getting paid thousands less" she'd go and tell him and then he'd come and tell me why it was only fair that I was getting paid less. She was completely unable to enforce anything herself and it caused me to lose all respect for her. Towards the end when I was just running out my contract in order to leave she told me that I had to get there half an hour earlier each day (even though she'd specifically told me that my arrival time was fine) and that I needed to stop browsing the internet in my downtime. I said Ok and just carried on doing it regardless, she didn't say anything.

Before my contract finished and I had a chance to leave I got poached by a different team and now I'm making better money, doing more useful work and have a chain of command that's entirely male. If I fuck up they're able to tell me without making it about feelings and I'm able to have a joke with them, without worrying about their feelings. Is it any wonder I'm more productive and happy in my work?

Jaereth · 2014-06-16T16:15:51+00:00

Everything said were management 101 buzzwords

Oh man i've been to so many of these... I just grin and bear it.

flamehorn · 2014-06-16T15:53:29+00:00

Some of the best bosses I've ever had have been women. But I suspect that's because I'm a hospital doctor and these women (like all good doctors) have had their leadership and decision-making honed in the emergency department and on the wards. They don't need a job title to get respect, they have earned it through thousands of hours of graft. I suspect in other areas you can rise to managerial roles without having to demonstrate actual competency for the job itself, rather than in nebulous managerial skills and networking

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temparooney · 2014-06-16T16:57:52+00:00

The female boss may well be inefficient. But as a guy, the easiest boss I ever had was a woman. She was hardest on the one woman who also reported to her and she liked all of us guys.

That may have been because we were all more competent than this girl who was on the team (product of affirmative action and her blonde hair, I'd say) but still, usually the woman would get the breaks even though she's less competent.

This is the one workgroup I've been in where the girl didn't get all the softballs while the men were expected to do all the tricky stuff. Where the usual favoritism that's so typical it's automatic, didn't exist.

As a guy, I think it's fine to work for a woman. Don't be beta, she'll be somewhat attracted to you, and so you'll have an advantage over female coworkers with whom she'll feel mainly competitive and bitchy.

Cyralea · 2014-06-16T16:08:18+00:00

Women are notoriously bad at taking criticism. They take it personally, and become emotional. It fosters an environment where you can't say anything negative because it'll wound the delicate flower.

If your boss is a woman be prepared to go through with whatever ideas she has fostered, because she will defend them with the ferocity of a mother protecting her young.

redpillacct · 2014-06-16T15:14:43+00:00

Women bosses are 99% terrible because they are not natural leaders.

My current boss is a woman and you can immediately feel the morale of the team drop. How she got the job? Pussy pass. She cannot answer simple questions about the business and tells people who ask her anything to ask someone else. Little technical abilities as she always delegates her management work to others complaining that it is too hard. Never stands up for her team when other managers have problems that we shouldn't be required to fix, but instead just dumps more work onto her team.

I've had decent woman managers who knew what they were doing and could do their,jobs well, but the majority are just abysmal. I will also add that some men make poor managers, but they usually don't get promoted to such a position because there is no pussy pass for them.

TripleOGeg · 2014-06-16T15:56:53+00:00

Even rats leave a sinking ship, just don't leave it so long even the rats are smarter than you.

whatsazipper · 2014-06-16T17:48:42+00:00

Working with and for women can be a nightmare. Even if you get along with them, they cause drama with each other and disrupt efficient work flow. Break down in tears. Sabotage each other.

I've met capable women but female dominated work environments are often unpleasant situations to be in.

The main problems I see are women being emotional, causing 'drama', inability to separate personal and sex life from work environment (or using sex as a means to enhance relative power acquisition), lack of leadership skills.

Without a doubt, I greatly prefer working with men.

Katalyst81 · 2014-06-16T15:43:11+00:00

Sounds like the bitch that took over at my company, she was constantly telling me I was doing stuff wrong, I had been doing for over 3 years, and when I got defensive she didn't like it, so I quit, they lost someone who never called in sick, and always worked on days off when called, now I work less hours, and make a little more money.

the only thing I miss, for her age(40) she looked much younger(28ish), she even dated a 23 yr old guy, she had a great ass she liked to show off in the tightest pants.

richardnorth · 2014-06-16T16:30:56+00:00

The worst part about working with women is their inability to handle constructive criticism. They always seem to take it personally no matter how diplomatically it is delivered.

MasterHordorBaggins · 2014-06-16T20:09:32+00:00

I've had three female bosses. The first in a university IT who was banging the boss. She knew less than us students and was a holy terror. The second was a ham planet in retail who sexually harassed the living shit out of me. I wa fired for not sleeping with her. The third was capable, talented and a goddamn pro at doing her job. She was the second best boss I ever had. It takes all sorts.

Panzer_Geist · 2014-06-16T21:39:39+00:00

Good bosses, male or female are hard to come by nowadays. They think that being a good boss is about being "buddies" with the employees. No. If there's one thing from the military that carries over to civilian life it's leadership qualities. You learn to respect and value the opinions of people below you but you also realize that you're not there to make friends with them and you learn to trust that you know better. So you will listen to the team but once you make up your mind you won't have people questioning it because they know that's how it's gonna be.

I had some assholes who made great lieutenants. I hated them as people but they got the shit done and at the end of the day I trusted in their leadership abilities and that's all that matters.

Be the boss. Don't try to be the friend.

General_Fear · 2014-06-16T22:47:39+00:00

I had several female bosses. I only liked one.

Here is my experience.

1.) Before feminism boss. These were the career women of 60's and 70's. In the past, career women were rare. So a lot of them had to fight tooth and nail to get ahead. They did that by out men men. They tried to outdo men by being ruthless managers. Total bitches who crack the whip. Currently my buddy has this kind of boss. Every guy who has worked for her has ended up in the hospital with a heart attack.

2.) Post feminism boss. These are the bosses who got the job because of quotas. A female boss told me that companies have meetings where they promote people according to race. So many have to be black. So many have to be Hispanic and so many managers have to be female. Why do this? Because they want to avoid a lawsuit. A company with to many men in charge will be sued by women. So they prefer a less qualified woman in charge to avoid problems. The result is these who know nothing about what's going on and make stupid decisions.

Here is a video about women managers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBbZM8baL54

dicklord_airplane · 2014-06-16T18:09:57+00:00

my boss is an old hippie lady, but thankfully she's nothing like that. that shit can't fly in the oil industry. even she has remarked on how she often has to put in more effort to deal with other women because they often can't deal with advice or criticism constructively and are more likely to take it as an insult.

5 of my colleagues are women in their mid-20's and early 30's, and they do not show these stereotypical traits, either. it's difficult to attain top-tier geoscience degrees if you can't accept criticism and change you ways to suit reality. this is why i always prefer to go for girls who have a B.S.; they're more likely to be rational and humble. business chicks tend to have ridiculously over-inflated egos which lend to bad management skills.

vengefully_yours · 2014-06-17T04:33:51+00:00

My worst supervisors in the military were men, because they took it upon themselves to try and destroy my career. Women on the other hand were inept at best, catty and unable to listen to other methods, because her way was the way she knew how to do it, so everyone had to do it her way. Not efficient at their jobs, nowhere near proficient, and stuck in a rut is an understatement.

I'd much rather have butch lesbians working for me than any other female with or around me. Those chicks can get shit done.... If they know they gotta work to stay on active duty, you know, like men do.

hawkster9542 · 2014-06-17T20:38:43+00:00

I get the joy of being accused of "arguing" constantly by my female boss. Any kind of disagreement and bringing up facts and evidence that run counter to her thoughts or stance is merely me "arguing with her".

"That solution won't work for the majority of cases" Arguing.

"That's not at all what that system does" followed by an actual explanation? Arguing.

"We can't put ourselves in that position because the future won't sustain it" Arguing.

It's really my fault; 18 years of solid experience in my field and being able to see that actions have consequences would probably upset her Field of Feels. I hear the harvest is a'comin...

BluepillProfessor · 2014-06-17T22:36:54+00:00

The worst thing about women bosses is the cyclical nature of their emotions. AWALT! If they are getting fucked good at home they will be sweet and reasonable at work. If their Beta Buck is LETTING HER frustrate him SHE will also be frustrated at work.

OF course this is above and beyond the normal ebbs and flow of their monthly cycle. After I took TRP and told my wife about some changes going to be happening around here she started, at my suggestion, tracking her boss's cycle. Now she waits until Ovulation time (when she is in a good mood indicating her boss rode the white Elmo a short time before) before bringing up any issues that need calm, reasoned analysis.

homosexualsaipian · 2014-06-16T22:57:06+00:00

my boss is pretty good. has excellent work ethics. leads by example, which some of my male bosses didn't have and i hated for. she does for instance all the shit in the kitchen. from dishwashing to cooking, to front of the house to maintainence. she does criticize and request some contradictory stuff time and time again. do one thing and then tell me to do the opposite for another day. her words are final. does not take advice.

honestly, i don't give a fuck. more respect for her than my old male boss who treated us like shit and disposable and we were.

now, i am employed to another place which is retail and privately owned. 80% of the workers are women and I take midnight shifts with other dudes. will see how they do it. i've already heard fucking gossiping first day of my training. some bitch bragging about how her decade long husband is paying for her university degree (sociology lolwut) and brags about it in front of her customers. holy shit.

Planner_Hammish · 2014-06-16T21:48:23+00:00

I have pretty much all female bosses in my organization. Some are good, some are not. One in particular adds a lot of value, and she has been missed over the last year while on mat-leave. Her stand-in (also female) will not be missed.

[deleted] · 2014-06-16T22:44:39+00:00

All my best bosses have been women, and my worst have been men. My current bosses are women, and they're nothing like that.

Title	Why you don't want a woman as your boss
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Date	June 16, 2014 1:26 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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