Is there such a thing as AMALT and if so, what are some examples?

xFallacyx69 · 2020-08-24T21:21:12+00:00

he won't break up with you if he's still getting sex, even if thinks there's a zero percent chance he'll propose and he knows thats what you want. He'll put in the bare minimum for YEARS if you are his only or best option for sex.

poppy_blu · 2020-08-24T23:00:29+00:00

From personal experience:

men like egalitarian society as long they get to pick and chose
men prefer to be the pursuer and are turned off by women who pursue
they have a sense of entitlement around sex due to being raised in a society that taught them that their sexual urges trump women’s agency
they insist on using their SO as their only emotional outlet but aren’t equipped to reciprocate
some have a weird thing about breaking strong women and will play games with you, as if their objective is to get over on you
they really just aren’t as committed to children as women are
they have their own brand of branch swinging which consists of finding a new woman immediately or usually before dumping the old one, not acknowledging their own responsibility in the relationship demise and convincing themselves and everyone else that all their exes were coincidentally “crazy”

The head of every millennial and zoomer man on this sub just exploded. No fucking way they agree with a thing I just said. It doesn’t even apply to every man I’ve interacted with. Which goes to show you how useful AW/MALT actually is. And why it was never meant to suggest men or women can be simplified with a math formula. The takeaway for AW/MALT is simply:

nobody’s perfect and love/attraction doesn’t conquer all and make them be perfect
everyone’s capable of doing bad shit and few people haven’t done bad shit in their lives despite few people admitting this
know the risks and manage them. If you can’t handle that, you have no business playing the game.

tripleundone · 2020-08-24T20:31:56+00:00

From a man, mostly anecdotally:

Tend to sort people into boxes labeled “rational” and “irrational” even though most of them have no training in formal logic and don’t even know that it has limitations. Perfectly logical arguments can get you to do insane things.
Get confused about the difference between criticism and aggression, between friendship and flirting, between submission and defeat.
Are bad at recognizing how long they have been talking.
Are bad at recognizing that the majority of the world doesn’t view logic as an interesting or even important means of getting to the right answer, but they do hear the word “logic” and “reason” as a selling point.
Have a deflated view of their own capabilities and self-worth. Unfortunately, this tends to manifest itself as lack of effort, which just leads to the world confirming to them what they already thought and trapping them in a loop.
Overconfidently believe they know what kinds of things are “impossible”.
Tend to place the value of perceived “truth” over the value of good, to the detriment of themselves and to society.

sublimemongrel · 2020-08-24T20:53:00+00:00

I don’t really subscribe to AxALT the way red pill describes but if I had to pick a few:

-men’s attention is transactional, they are not giving you that attention just because they want to get to know you as a person, but instead as a possible sex/romantic partner

-men cheat opportunistically

-male love is often about possession

-men bond through shared activities and will get confused if a woman bonds with them platonically the way women tend to bond with one another

Slyfer_Seven · 2020-08-24T20:41:17+00:00

Of course there are AMALT examples here's a couple rock solid ones:

If a dude talks to you outside of pleasantries/professionally, he wants to fuck you. AMALT

Men realize most things after the fact. We get into situations and then figure out how we feel about it. It doesn't even necessarily matter how many times we've been in that situation either. AMALT

Oh, and a bonus one:

If a dude has a regular vehicle that has been modified with an emphasis on form over function, he is insecure about himself and is trying to overcompensate. AMALT

usa_foot_print · 2020-08-24T20:17:27+00:00

As a dude, I have noticed that AMALT applies to men over estimating how great they are online. Just reading the "men" on this sub talk about how perfect they are over and over again is laughable.

NinjaOfTheSouth · 2020-08-24T20:04:42+00:00

All guys wanna fuck? IG?

Mimoxs · 2020-08-24T20:44:48+00:00

all women pine after Chad, either openly or in secret.

😒

Anyway:

-easily manipulated to get what they want, a lil gullible

-reactions are based around the ego

-horny

spacechicken1990 · 2020-08-25T04:34:59+00:00

Men are generally easier to provoke into violence.

Men can and will be dangerous in certain situations I.e always carry a weapon at night & don’t walk alone.

Men are more likely to cheat if given the chance.

Men are generally funnier and have more capabilities to be friendly to strangers.

Most guys want to fuck you despite being „friends“.

Meritamen9 · 2020-08-24T21:27:26+00:00

Just take a lot of the stuff red pill men say-

Men would rather have an 16-24 year old no matter how old they get. Lets face it, they only say 18 because that is the age of legal adulthood, if we removed all cultural programming men would have no qualms going after 14-17 year olds.

Stuff like the coolidge effect, polygyny, etc.

GennyX · 2020-08-24T22:54:53+00:00

Flattering them is like shooting fish in a barrel.

lilastr · 2020-08-24T21:06:30+00:00

Surprisingly I don’t believe all men are polygamous. I think some men have chosen the long term strategy in mating. So that’s not the amalt im obsessive about. The only AMALT thing I’m sure about is that they are all visual. No exceptions. Ain’t no such thing as “I love you so you’re pretty” or “beauty in the eyes of the beholder” or “you are beautiful because I’m attached to you” or “love boner, emotional boner.” No matter how much he loves you he will be into more beautiful women more. (Male Hypergamy is in a “beauty” sense while women are in “money/status” sense)

So this aspect is absolutely AMALT because you can’t negotiate with a dick, it either stands or not, it doesn’t care if you’re mother of his kids or a loyal wife.

psypD · 2020-08-24T20:50:45+00:00

All men in a relationship would be willing to fuck some random woman no strings attached if there was no chance he would be caught. For men fucking one random chick, there really is no evolutionary disadvantage.

Also I'd surmise all men would claim they're doing some skill/practice/social event/workout type thing for themselves, but 99% of the time its for attracting women and increasing their chance of fucking.

Also all men would prefer a younger woman to an older one all things being equal. The only reason men apparently prefer MILFS are factors unique to older women, namely:

A general lower demand for older women would make it easier to pursue one without competition, and that woman would likely be more receptive since positive attention for them is rarer
Wider hips/larger breasts from child birth and rearing
More "sexually experienced", thus a potentially more exciting fuck

If there were two women, both with all those qualities, and one was 18 and another was 35, the man would 99.999% of the time prefer the 18 year old.

VariationBusiness · 2020-08-24T20:48:59+00:00

However, little is spoken about AMALT (all men are like that). Are there certain behaviours that are characteristic of all males and if so, are there any examples?

Lol, are you serious RN? All men are like that is the default morals of society.

All men are potential predators so women need to carry weapons, not be alone at night, etc.
All men are violent and will fight eachother if you push the envelope
All men are willing to fuck any option of a woman they have. Tiger Woods cheating on his supermodel wife with Denny's waitresses is is prime AMALT material.

We don't sugarcoat male nature so there's less need to talk about it. It's like debating about the sky being blue. Only with female nature y'all insist the sky is green.

goatismycopilot · 2020-08-24T22:49:49+00:00

Men are more likely to react in anger, more likely to have sex with anybody, more likely to cheat, more likely to break/burn/destroy things, more likely to want sex and take significant risks for sex, more likely to be married and have side women, more likely to consider other people as objects to be moved around, possessed or destroyed, less interested in character or personality and more visual, more likely to judge things, situations, reactions, and responses based on their dick, more likely to lie to get sex or gain an opportunity.

Purple5091 · 2020-08-25T06:09:27+00:00

To know about men all you need to know is sex/ teh dick:

*Men lie,cheat,steal,force (rape) for sex..(AMALT)

*its all about sex for them

*more sex

...hence why FDS are great strategies i use to acquire resources for them then ghost when they realise they arent getting any cookie << this is the female version of pump and dump

Reisiluu · 2020-08-25T07:21:09+00:00

Guys love helping and protecting women. Acting vulnerable and weak in a subtle way and showing appreciation for what they did for you or complimenting them is like crack to them. I never get such a strong reaction from women over small compliments.

The reason they react that way is because they think their effort is paying off and what they actually want seems more attainable. It's as if men are grinding reputation points to reach a level where they can have sex with you. Anything they share with you, do for you, tell you or do with you is transactional. If you don't understand this intuitively and naively assume men can be genuine friends, you are an evil harpy leading them on.

Sex has no other meaning to men than dick feelings and maybe an ego boost. It's not a compliment, because they have no standards. It's not a measure of their love, because they don't require love to have sex. Men will say what they really want is a relationship, but lonely men would not decline free sex with a woman who openly dislikes them. Dick feelings > actual feelings. That's why they also stay in relationships and sexual arrangements which they know 100% will not lead anywhere.

Grave_Heresy · 2020-08-25T00:38:59+00:00

Yes there is.

Men have a natural inclination to simp for any human being with a p-sleeve.

Purple5091 · 2020-08-25T06:09:45+00:00

To know about men all you need to know is sex/ teh dick:

*Men lie,cheat,steal,force (rape) for sex..(AMALT) as the past,current present and possible future shows

*its all about sex for them

*more sex

...hence why FDS are great strategies i use to acquire resources from them then ghost when they realise they arent getting any cookies << this is the female version of pump and dump

Zippo-Cat · 2020-08-25T08:41:56+00:00

However, little is spoken about AMALT (all men are like that).

Because this is something that does not need to be said. Everyone in society AT LARGE accepts it as a fact. Say "all men are pigs" and you're going to get "preach, sister" from women and a loud fart followed by laughter from men. Say "women are [literally anything but praise]" and you gonna get lynched by both men and women.

2020-08-24T21:03:32+00:00

The good ole all men are rapists and murderers so meet them in a public place so they don't chop you up then rape you.

Its nothing new.

thetruthishere_ · 2020-08-25T01:20:19+00:00

There is no 'all' on either side, we all don't fit into an all box. You're delusional to think all fit into a box.

Sure, do I know a bunch of men just want sex, yes, do I think all want just that no.

You just have to weed people out, its dating.

basura_time · 2020-08-24T20:18:16+00:00

There is no AMALT any more than AWALT, but trends.

A AMALT trend would be men are very easy to lead on into sex and "seduce" compared to women. Things like being in a relationship could change that for most, but as a thing men will take any sexual offer if the woman is "acceptable" to them (obviously that will vary).

There has been a study cited here for other reasons, but when asked if they want to go have sex by a woman spontaneously, 70% of men agreed, while the same being asked of a woman was 0%.

Sultmaker_9000 · 2020-08-24T20:29:10+00:00

I'm pretty sure all men also trade up where possible.

extrachromozomes · 2020-08-24T21:08:53+00:00

AMALT and AWALT are stupid. I guess you can apply some generalizations to either sexes but overall it’s a stupid way to evaluate both genders

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TheBookOfSeil · 2020-08-24T21:59:52+00:00

I'd really have to think about it. The only one I can think of is that men are more likely to respond with anger about a variety of things like accusations or having someone insult our character. If a partner thought I was cheating, I'd feel annoyed and insulted, and I would be less likely to try to "prove" that I'm not cheating and more likely to address my partner's insecurity on why they think I'm cheating. Some men do this to deflect and try to hide the fact that they're actually cheating, but they treat it like a joke and laugh at accusations which sort of gives them away but the women in those situations are too emotional to want to believe it.

I think another one might be wanting sex much more quickly. Most men are ready to smash after seeing a woman who crosses their looks-threshold, but women typically need a little bit more time and information.

Men will also "branch-swing" if we can, but for different reasons. Women will branch-swing for money, for example. Don't really see men doing that at all, but for a more attractive partner? Yeah. Wanting good genes isn't exclusive to one sex.

SeemedGood · 2020-08-24T23:57:05+00:00

Sure there is.

acron5n5 · 2020-08-25T15:07:48+00:00

Yes. One of more obvious AMALT examples is being constantly horny. I think this gets represented in the culture as well.

basura_time · 2020-08-25T19:07:46+00:00

My one absolute in life is: Any statement beginning with "all" is false.

This is especially true with people. People are individuals and are all different. If I let broader trends I observe or have read papers about color how I treat men and women, my life would be sad and bitter and I would have missed out on some great relationships.

citrusssi · 2020-08-26T22:15:29+00:00

I really don't like these acronyms because they act like all men and women are just hive minds. Yes a person is more likely to act similar to someone in their own gender but that doent mean were all the same or all act the same in certain ways. I'm female and attracted guys but the whole chad stereotype of being super buff and tough and not giving a fuck is honeslty a huge turn off for me and i think there are a lot of women that might agree with me. Often people like incels say that women will only go after chad, because they have barely any interation with real women and their best guess is from porn.

Workaholiconew · 2020-08-24T22:54:41+00:00

Of course there is AMALT, you see and feel it every day. Heck. You probably is fully aware of your nature, unlike women...

But the impulse to acquire sex, the one to provide and the impulse to accumulate sexual partners instead of trading them are all male impulses that if not ignored, consciously or not, will end up pretty obvious in your behavior.

Awalt and amalt talk about impulses.... instincts... natures... biases..., whatever you call it, not behaviors per see. In women we just call out them by their behaviors because women tend to act on some impulses which make their impulses more obvious. But I am sure there is more to awalt which we may never know because women may not follow them as easily as things such as hypergamy. The same happen to men. Most men follow the 'try to acquire sex' a lot. Thus it is obvious to a woman this part of amalt. But the provision one? Not so much because we control it.

Kyogan · 2020-08-24T23:34:05+00:00

As a man, I can say for a fact

Men are too naive

Men have too low self-esteem

Men get defeated easily.

But that's the society we kinda built to make men like that.

abaxeron · 2020-08-24T21:40:07+00:00

Let's put men in society where they have no influence and no responsibilities and see.

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