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Today's Reality Check: Women have boyfriends and girlfriends. If you’re not fucking her, you’re her girlfriend.

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January 10, 2013

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Title Today's Reality Check: Women have boyfriends and girlfriends. If you’re not fucking her, you’re her girlfriend.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 21
Comments 17
Date 10 January 2013 05:25 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/174819
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/16bmvg/todays_reality_check_women_have_boyfriends_and/
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[–]DEVi4TION8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

Leaves out the possibility that you're also just her friend, and she's just your friend. I do know a couple girls that are just my friend who I am not trying to sleep with.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

As long as you're honest with yourself about it, I think that's the point.

[–]DEVi4TION2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

ah, indeed. indeed.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, also, how could I hire women to work with me without being able to see them as people and not fuck objects?

[–]DEVi4TION2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, either be an adult and comfortable with being able to control yourself around attractive women, or hire unattractive women.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Early on in this subreddit, pk made a suggestion. Weed out your friends that you're not fucking. Be honest with yourself the nature of your relationships. Kick your butt into gear and meet new people in your frame not theirs.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

While I initially went to do that, I decided to expand on my scope of interactions. If we're not fucking, then there has to be an exchange of goods or services, and that she absolutely does not get free attention or desire, which is what she's after in this friend ("girlfriend") arrangement.

Basically, I recognize women can be useful for getting me or directing me to things I do want outside of sex. I just make sure to keep my mind on my criteria and maintain my frame.

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[–]new_qgj2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

In the spirit of redpillschool's reply to a similar question, you should make sure you're being honest with yourself.

Ask yourself a couple questions.

If this girl offered you sex or a sexual relationship would you turn it down under any circumstance?

If not, you're probably a supplicating beta. Friends can't be fuck buddies.

Do you derive value from the current relationship? Whether it be her having a hot group of friends for you to meet, helping demonstrate your pre-selection, or otherwise providing value to your life, is this someone you would choose to spend time with platonically?

If not, I would classify this person as an acquaintance, not a friend.

It's important to take some time for introspection and really try to analyze your motives. If you answer yes to both of these questions, then sure, you're probably friends.

Most of the time, when a man and a woman are "just friends," the woman gains value from the "friendship" but rules out any sexual relation. For men, it's the exact opposite.

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[–]new_qgj2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I didn't want to imply that you weren't being honest with yourself. Mostly, I wanted to elaborate on redpillschool's reply to DEVi4TION, whose comment expressed similar sentiment to how you perceived the title of the post.

A few of the posts on this sub in the past couple of days have drawn a bit of ire from new, blue pill or feminist readers (Often because the title of a post rubs them the wrong way). I know you weren't disagreeing with the post's content, I just wanted to help clarify the message.

Sounds like you aren't "friends" with women who have given you the "LJBF rejection," at least not for the wrong reasons. I don't see any problem there.

[–]GeorgeGordonByron2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

bullshit. women are nicer to (and respect) their female friends MUCH more than their male friends.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

While that's a funny thought, I suppose it's correct in the sense that at least female friends aren't hoping for sex. That said, females are not nice to their female friends.

[–]GeorgeGordonByron0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

While that's a funny thought, I suppose it's correct in the sense that at least female friends aren't hoping for sex.

When a guy is in the friendzone, it's usually a one sided friendship. He takes her places, buys her shit, does her favors. How often do you see that shit between women?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great example is the character "Ryan" in the US Tv show wilfred. Point well taken.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This article is one of the largest ways I can convey TRP ideologies that's simple, easy to understand, and stupid to refute. Always helps to find this, wish it was reposted and higher.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Something related another commenter, Pater said in the female blogger thread

.... how I feel about most American women nowadays as friends. A few are rewarding and interesting, but most are just attention whores. Unless you're fucking them, they're emotionally draining, even emasculating. It's not that they are boring so much as they are constantly soliciting attention, so that without any sex to even things out, paying them any heed is just tiring.

I agree with that assessment, but you can expand that to things other than sex too. Any sort of material trade or service. I make girls who want to be friends with me do something about it instead of just allowing them to solicit attention. Sure, I'd like sex a lot of the time, but if I can get cash, business, a ride somewhere, a place to crash, etc., I'll do just as they acquire things from guys.

The beauty of it, is if you're any good at handling interactions like that, is you gain access to the resources of other males they've hooked in.

Of course, make sure to drop them if they aren't doing anything for you that you want, because trust me, by giving them your time, attention, or desire, you're fulfilling a lot of what they want. Women are masters at forming one-sided friendships/relationships.

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