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Miss USA 2011 Contestants: Should Evolution be taught in school?

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Title Miss USA 2011 Contestants: Should Evolution be taught in school?
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 11
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Date 11 January 2013 02:30 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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[–]shute 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

though the girls who don't believe in evolution, do tend to be the nice feminine religious girl type (and as a consequence usually more feminine, a better partner etc) being red pill men, in large part we have to accept evolution. i mean look at evo psych, survival of the fittest, paleo fitness, the sexual imperative (for men to procreate and spread their seed among many women) etc, at it's route is evolution. spreading the best genetic material possible, living in accordance with the environment and adapting to conditions as necessary.

To me, being red pill means you see things are changing and rather than bitch about the situation you take active steps to put yourself at the top of the ladder, in the emerging systems.

in the past, today's red pill men/ alphas would be generally accepted as traditionalist. i.e. mainstream view was in accordance the male-female hierarchy (patriarchy)

now as conditions change we too adapt. hence the emergence of Game, 'cheerful misogyny', etc to take advantage of the new conditions and lay of the land, to get what we want as men. The traditionalists (or sons and grandsons of them) now who can't get with this change end up being beta or opt out of sexual dynamics completely.

We must always have one step in the future (adapt to emerging markets, new conditions) and one in the past (avoid past mistakes, keep natural masculine traits strong) to successfully navigate the lay of the land

[–]Kepaso 6 points7 points  (34 children) | Copy

as a non american, it always amazes me to see that this debate is still going strong in the USA. I mean it seems something taken from the 50'S. America is a world full of extremes, it has been the avant garde of science and thechnology for decades, yet a big % of its population is religious, and sometimes in a hardcore way like that creation stuff. As a canadian and part european, i never saw this kind of debate in my life, weither in television or in real life with people.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (33 children) | Copy

America was founded by religious fundamentalists revolting against other religious fundamentalists. We're Puritanical by nature and it is evidenced everywhere you look, including being printed on our god damn money, even though "Separation of Church and State" is supposed to be how our government operates. We're waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off and with them a lot of the Olde World religious attitudes. I'm an avid atheist but I have recently learned to actually embrace religion because it naturally lines up with Red Pill interests.

[–]XxXsmok3bluntzXxX420 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Religion unites and brings together men, something which atheism can never do. I'm sure you all think that you know better, and you may be right, but history shows otherwise.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

While true it clearly isn't the optimal way to do so. As Western society continues to decline religious membership will follow suit. It is up to us to stay ahead of the curve and begin the next chapter of community building.

[–]XxXsmok3bluntzXxX420 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is up to us to stay ahead of the curve and begin the next chapter of community building.

And humanism can't really do that. Divorce and loss of religiosity skyrocketed in China, reaching the same rates it took Western nations decades to reach. Once the house of cards tumbe, it will be glorious!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

men can unite under another banner than church. religion can also divide, since there are different religions... even between christians there are so many different branches.

men could meet and unite/ build a community where you just have to be a man to be part of.

[–]XxXsmok3bluntzXxX420 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Men will never unite just by being men. That's why the MRA movement is going nowhere. Men unite by a common thing, like tribe, gang, nationality etc. And of course religion can divide, because like anything that unites people, it divides those not united.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

" Men unite by a common thing"

well, MRA have a common thing, "fighting" for the rights of men. you could describe any group of people as a tribe, including MRAs.

"Men will never unite just by being men."

you lack faith in your fellow men. it is possible.

[–]XxXsmok3bluntzXxX420 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

well, MRA have a common thing, "fighting" for the rights of men. you could describe any group of people as a tribe, including MRAs.

ok they can unite, but it will NEVER go anywhere.

you lack faith in your fellow men. it is possible.

my faith is in my brothers, my cousins, and my kin. Humans cannot have do this with every other man! Competition is what drives evolution!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"ok they can unite, but it will NEVER go anywhere."

it wont because not enough are willing to try. isnt this place about stop being a beta and passive? arent men supposed to take charge and lead?

"Competition is what drives evolution!"

just like cooperation. you wont evolve very far if you abondone usefull traits like working togather to a common good outside the own family/ tribe... you sound like you want to devolve into a cavemen.

[–]zionController 0 points1 point  (22 children) | Copy

learned to actually embrace religion because it naturally lines up with Red Pill interests.

I got baptized last year at the height of my game. I may not be what you'd call traditional, but I love their values and the traditional roles and their concepts of marriage. Granted, I gave up the idea of ever getting married, but I can at least pay homage to what its supposed to look like.

I also appreciate how I never have to listen to women preach to me about values since only men can be Catholic priests.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (19 children) | Copy

This brings me to a new part of my strategy: Religious Game.
Lie through my fucking teeth and call myself a practicing "insertwhatever" if religion ever comes up? (Attend Church with her while simultaneously suppressing my urge to burn the place down. Lots of nodding and smiling.)
Spout some nonsense about being non-denominational but believing in the man upstairs? ("Yeah I grew up with the teachings of Christ, Allah, whatever, but my family chose to believe in private prayer at home.")
Own my Atheism? (Highly doubt this will get a religious woman's thong wet, unless of course it fires up her "bad boy" reactive drive. Seems like a crap shoot at best.)
Thoughts?

[–]zionController 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

Here's my take on that:

Be me

Be in a car, about to hook up with my regular repressed religious girl Her phone rings Its her blue pill religious boyfriend who won't do anything sexual with her

He is whining: "I heard you're hanging out with people who aren't even Christian?!" "What are you doing??" "I've been crying about this" "Are you with someone?"

Her: "Yes I'm with someone"

Me feeling like not wanting to start anything, I mouth "NO NO What?!"

Her: Its just Natalie.. I gotta go.

She hangs up the phone and looks at me.

I unzip. She goes to down. I receive the most guilt inducing bj known to man, but I really don't care much. I'm only doing this with her because a guy who owes me money has ONEitis for her and he won't pay up.

Later take her V

At a party a week later she walks in on me making out with another girl

We stop seeing eachother

Point is: Religious girls don't need a religious man to game them. She'll love not even knowing your thoughts on the matter. In some situations it might be useful to throw out a 'I pray from home' card.

I actually go to church because I personally dig it. Its a manly, classic way to live, where a man is a man and a woman is a woman. Where if all things go according to plan, you get a wife the old fashioned way, and you don't have to worry about STD's. You basically just chill and love your neighbor. Its a great system in a society that doesn't punish beta dom.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

How many bolts of lightning will I get hit by if my condescending, baby eating Atheist ass steps foot in a Church?

[–]zionController 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on the church. I dislike the loosey goosey churches where women are allowed to preach and they pander to the feminist imperative. I stick to Roman Catholicism. Its about as traditional as you get without going orthodox. Its pro life so don't discuss baby eating, but other than that, I think you'd find it meditative and largely positive. Its a great way to sharpen the saw at the end of the week. Its honing your spirit the way I hone my straight edge razor to keep it sharp.

EDIT - and a minimum three bolts of lightning

[–]zionController 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It would be awesome if someone like you went to church. The other guys there are virgin beta's who are faaaat and they look at our HB9 singing girl like 'yeah, I would probably date her' and I'm thinking, shit even I would need my A game for that beast, you're delusional.

I wasn't raised religious, it was an adult decision, so I have more of a realistic view of things. Your company would be most welcome.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I will pontificate on this. My mother was raised Irish Catholic and had a bitter resentment towards it, so religion had no place in our home. I was a self-identified agnostic for all of my adult life and upon researching that being an agnostic is nothing more than a "weak atheist" I recently committed to my belief system. However, in the interest of being someone who favors efficiency over almost anything else I cannot discount the similarities between Natural Law and the benefits that religion could potentially offer. It is (almost?) as if our ancestors knew, what a mind fuck.

[–]zionController 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It is (almost?) as if our ancestors knew, what a mind fuck.

This is something that I've maintained for a long time.

Imagine people sitting around a stone table. The village elders stroking their whispy beards. One of them says "How do we keep hypergamy in check?? If the Alpha male gets to impregnate every woman in our small community, the next generation will be completely incestuous!" the men stroke their beards and the wisest among them says "Lets create a system that binds our spirituality with Natural Law... that way.. No incest, hypergamy is in check, and we cut down on police costs because people will feel a sense of honour and duty and be more lawful"

And this happens all over the world.

Our ancestors were smart. They laid the foundation out for us. Our job is to build the house now, and fight off those who would seek to destroy it.

EDIT

being an agnostic is nothing more than a "weak atheist"

agreed. Who likes agnostics? They'll get flak from both camps.

Irish Catholic and had a bitter resentment towards it,

So many people do. My experience is largely positive though. I know a girl who hates religion because she gets flak for having an out of wedlock baby from some alpha dude. This girl LJBF'd me when I was a student and is now asking me out on dates. If religion shames girls like this, I'm kinda inclined to hop on board. If we don't shame the sluts, then we shame the chaste. By treating sluts like they're normal, we're also treating normal girls like they're sluts, and that will make whoring legitimate. I'll sleep around like a dog, but I at least don't respect the girls. Thats the goodness in me shining through.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are a scholar and a gentleman. That last part had me in fucking stitches. lololol



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