Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

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March 22, 2013

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Title Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
Author redpillschool
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Date 22 March 2013 03:41 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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[–]roe_ 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reading a little bit about this debacle, it occurs to me that Adria Richards is a poster-child for solipsism.

She's also rude. The usual thing to do when some action you've performed has had a significant but unintended negative outcome for someone else, is apologize.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is supposed to be on r/mensrights? Why is this on The Red Pill?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

We're following the story.

[–]TheKount -2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

This girl gets it. Good article.

[–]quiet_wish 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know, she said that the backlash against Adria was an over-reaction. I believe the exact opposite, for once we reacted strongly enough to get something done.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why do you think it was good?

I read a lot of baseless accusations that seemed to amount to "programming community is sexist because it is mostly male" and that more has to be done to bring women into it.

Cue my eye rolling.

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most lecturers are male. That means that men hate women, not that women aren't selecting tech as a job... It's the patriarchy man!

The only way to get more women in tech and engineering is to have more women enroll in women's studies.

I'm not great at logic, but my hamster is spinning full speed, and I'm pretty sure Im on to something.

[–]TRP Vanguardtheubercuber 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

The article raises a lot of good points, but at the same time I think sexism in computing is being overblown here.

Having worked in that environment, I know first hand that it's laid back. People like joking. Guys have nerf fights and play computer games and are productive. If a newcomer doesn't fit in, why isn't it their responsibility to adapt?

Also all the affirmative action like she mentions, ensuring 40% female attendence and whatnot, that means you're necessarily pulling underqualified women in. Who is that helping? Why not focus on getting qualified women in the field instead of forcing them to treat a lesser employee as productive because of their demographics?

[–]TheKount 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought it was good because she called out the chick for making women look bad. She laid out other course of action that would have settle the manner in a much more profession matter without people losing their jobs.

[–]roe_ -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't work in tech, nor did I take a STEM course in college/university, but actually, I think there's something to the claim that these pursuits are unwelcoming to women. I don't think it's intentional, but I think it's how it is, and I think it does need to be fixed.

From a red-pill perspective, one problem might be the fact that these women are in a minority among unattractive (read: socially shy, nerdy) males, and constantly shooting down ham-fisted come-ons must be annoying.

Hilarilously, the solution to this problem is to teach nerds Game.

(There are other factors at work, obviously)

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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