Iron Rule of Tomassi #3 - Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

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Title Iron Rule of Tomassi #3 - Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.
Author redpillschool
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Date 03 April 2013 02:41 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm not in a hurry to bed a chick I like, if getting laid was the only goal I have women I can call on short notice.

If a woman makes me wait for sex she generally shows she's picky, I like that.

Edit: I don't date, I hang out, so maybe the dynamic is different. Without the framework of a "date" I find sex even easier to get because there is no need to put up a front.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

There's a difference between not doing first date sex, and demanding commitment first though.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't actually go on dates so, for me, the situation is different.

When I meet up with a new girl, I casually invite her to hang out or whatever, meet up with my friends or just join me on whatever I have planned that day. Sometimes I will paint with a chick or go throw a football. I find when things are framed as a date there are all these standardized checks and balances a woman will calculate in her brain.

Instead, when hanging out, the meat is still behind the counter. The woman almost has to ask for it. You become something a little out of reach for her immediately, because you're just having fun living your life.

I don't exactly know when I switched over to this lifestyle, but I find it effortless to get laid or make new connections with women. When "hanging out" I find that women will offer sex long before they ask for commitment. It is like they say "I've seen your life, now look at mine" with their bodies.

I'm pretty sure that when you stop framing things as dates, it puts the onus on the woman to prove she is the catch, not you.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I use the term date casually. I call a date any time there's an outing for any reason. I agree with your approach and employ a similar tactic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If a woman makes me wait for sex she generally shows she's picky, I like that.

As long as she's been "picky" with every other guy she slept with, it's fine. But how do you know she's not just testing you for submissivity?

Chances are there are guys in the past that she slept with within hours of meeting. You'd have to be certain that this isn't the case, or else it's clear she respects you less than those random dudes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm constantly talking about other women and my options in life. The vibe I give off is that I'm looking for a good woman, but I'm having fun while doing it.

Eh, even if she's looking for me to submit to her, I don't mind if she thinks that way. I'm not about to give up the rest of my life to be with her and most women learn that pretty quickly from hanging out with me.

A few of my ex gfs had really low numbers in their 20s, like 3-4 guys in total, and they didn't want to jump into bed immediately. I kind of liked the effort and pace required to be with them, especially my last serious girlfriend who moved to Austrailia after I dumped her. She was really amazing but I chose my career over her. :/ I don't regret it, but someone else is going to make a crazy hot, big money earning, truly feminine and submissive wife out of her.

( I dated her for a year and I'm 100% certain she was genuine and not a huge whore that hid it well, haha. )

[–]TheDoctorCoach 10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

Wording is important: a girl doesn't make a man wait. She asks him to wait.

A man who chooses to follow her lead gets what he deserves, which will probably be more demands and less sex.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sex is not the only goal. If it were, just become a pornstar. You could pay yourself to fuck hot women with literally 0 wait.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Where do I sign up?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Go to

Read that site for a few weeks to understand more about the business.

Check out "" and get a feel for how that guy did his site. It is WILDLY successful and shot on a shoestring budget. The guy, Ivo, basically travels and fucks hot chicks while making a boatload of money.

I'm sure someone could do other "fucktour-esque" sites and make a pile of cash. I'm here to answer any more questions for the curious.

[–]TimFinds 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

At first, I really thought you were being sarcastic with the "" Great reply. I loled.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

At the end of the day, being a sap is always a man's choice.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, depends on the girl, I think and what the guy is looking for.

If you're just looking for a girl that is DTF then yeah, why wait? But if anyone wants a relationship, a girl that gives it up right away is bad news. Because she's done it before. And before. And before.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also worth reading:

the SEX might not be worth the wait, but the relationship might.

Beware of this rationale, sex is the glue that holds an LTR together. Sex is an integral part of an LTR and if it is established from the outset that a woman’s sexuality is a conditional reward for desired behavior from a man rather than a mutual experience based on mutually passionate desire, this LTR becomes fundamentally compromised. It is her frame, her world, that the waiting guy is entering from the very inception of what later may turn into an LTR. His first act of that LTR is capitulating to her terms for sex.

You can dress this up in esoteric reasonings as to how, later, she’ll appreciate him more for respecting her wishes to move slowly, but it doesn’t negate the fact that the Alpha traits women find the most attractive, and the most sexually arousing, have nothing to do with patience and everything to do with impulsivity. Women want to be pushed for sex. Women constantly complain that they need to feel sexy to want to have sex, and so long as it’s ‘the right guy’, nothing makes them feel sexier than knowing he’s hot for her to the point that he’s acting on impulse. The token resistance might seem cute or it’s used as some ASD ego preserving buffer, but it’s really a another way women prolong that feeling sexy dynamic which can be more rewarding than sex itself

The nature of the Alpha guy that women crave pushes him to have sex, not wait for it. In fact that sexual insistence is a prime indicator that a woman is dealing with an Alpha. The man who’d agree to ‘taking it slow’ telegraphs Beta to her. Sexual impulsivity is an Alpha indicator that translates into a Man who insists on getting what he wants in other aspects of life – which benefits HER and her future offspring’s long term provisioning. In the long term, women want Men who other men want to be and other women want to bang. The man agreeing to the patience and effort needed to “take it slow” is indicating that he’s not accustomed to insisting on, and getting what he wants. If he can sublimate his most powerful biological imperative to get sex, what else is he willing to sublimate?

[–]rkg-pua 7 points7 points [recovered] | Copy

Fuuark. Never read this before. Nice find and so true.

Rollo is the king

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

He certainly is. I find him to be the most logical and objective. He's also married, which is interesting because he's living what he preaches. He is the ultimate red pill relationship game guy. There is no bitterness in his views, just a realistic view of human nature and relationships. Much respect.

[–]apapaslipsnow 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think this is totally wrong. In my experience, my best relationships were ones where we didn't have sex for 2-3 months after we were dating. Having sex with near-strangers is fun, but when it comes to a relationship, there's something more fun about the waiting part where we're just appreciating each other as people.

To each his own, I guess.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I won't argue against your preference. The question here is: Who's delaying the sex?

If you willingly do not try for sex for months after giving up commitment, you're what we in the biz call an emotional slut. You give it up too easy. A losing strategy in the long run, women don't like emotional sluts.

[–]redditalias7 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Conversely, if she gives it up right away, she has, and will give it away easily to the next guy.

[–][deleted] 8 points8 points | Copy

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[–]redditalias7 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not sure if sarcasm, but most guys think this way and think they are the exception.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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