Threatpoint Created the Puerarchy

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Title Threatpoint Created the Puerarchy
Author redpillschool
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Comments 14
Date 22 July 2013 06:38 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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[–]AlphaPill 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Good read. I had no idea they actually got paternity tests banned in France. When will they be busting through my door to surgically sperm jack me, sell it and then hang me with the child support payments?

Reading this reminded me of about two years into my marriage when my wife came to me with "I'm not sure I can be married to someone who doesn't want kids." That was the first way she brought it up for discussion. Using the threat of easily leaving to try to manipulate me into having kids.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

France is blunt about how useful guys are: They said that biology doesn't matter when it comes to fatherhood. In other words, as long as we can find SOME chump to offload princess and her alpha-spawn onto, it's fine by us. What is this? Paternity test? That can't be good for princess and her alpha-spawn so we better ban those.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand why you married if you did not want kids. Did you really think that marriage is just the continuation of a relationship, a romantic and sexy thing, all that Disney stuff and unrelated to reproduction and a family life? You married WITHOUT wanting to be that old fashioned dad smoking his pipe at the fireplace while the kids play with the dog? Why? That is the only reason to marry.

We married precisely and specificially because we wanted kids and a firm family background for that, otherwise neither me nor her bothered with the expense and the headache of organization. There were few pink clouds of romance, and we both have a low sexual libido, it was a very grown up decision, very mature, we decided to fill the lack of direction and opportunities in our lives by reproduction and thus married. Because I wanted to be that old fashioned dad smoking the pipe at the fireplace as my life's goal and direction. Otherwise why? Just love? Love requires no paperwork.

(OK a smaller part of it was that it is basically a big thank-you to our parents and we both felt we owe it to them because a parents job cannot be said to be succesfully finished until the kids start their own family and grandkids are coming.)

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah. I started to post a FR about something that happened Friday night: A really beautiful girl asked me if I "believed in marriage"

I was honest as always, and said that it's a bad deal for men but a good deal for women. We had a pretty good rapport up to that point, but my answer turned her off like a switch. As an example of the difference, she had a neat ring and I had asked to see it, then held her hand a little longer than necessary and gotten a great, genuine smile - but then when we were leaving I tried for a hug and got the "side hug" so yeah, she was nexting me.

What bothers me about it is that she's from Peru. She's going to school here in the US, is Catholic (I also lost points admitting I'm an atheist) and has about a dozen siblings. Her parents are still together, and in love. I love it when a girl speaks well of her family. It's pretty rare.

Now, I had already gotten her number. I was with a group of friends and she was with a girlfriend and we sort of absorbed them into our group, so I immediately exchanged contact info. But now I'm actually stressing over calling her, and I can't remember the last time I've let that happen.

Part of me thinks, "I would marry you because you're different!" but then I read articles like this and think it's not worth it for anyone.

[–]pickup_sticks 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've been seeing a gal from Peru lately. Beautiful milf. She's pretty much everything you describe, but she divorced her man nonetheless.

Though I'll add she is not a feminist. We were talking about the book Way of the Superior Man and she said she gave it to her ex-boyfriend, hoping he would get the hint.

[–][deleted] 5 points5 points | Copy

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Roughly translated: The rule of boys.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy


If it doesn't pan out, fuck it, I'll consider vasectomy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hell yeah, I'm planning on flying to India as soon as it gets out of clinical trials. I don't think we will see it on US soil any time this decade though.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well, vasalgel is the US version and they're already conducting animal (rabbit) studies. The cost of clinical trials in the US will be a bitch, though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I signed up for their newsletter to keep an ear to the rail. if they do a kick starter, I'll bet they can get the funding. I was under the impression it takes many many years of testing before the FDA allows it on the market. But I might be being overly pessimistic about it.

[–]lepillrouge 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It used to be 7-8 years from animal testing to phase III approvals (if a drug makes it through phase III, FDA should let it be available). But these days it's more like 10-12, if ever for a new drug to hit the market.

[–]SystemHalifax 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The thing that really annoys me is that even if you aren't the father you still might have to pay.

Could you leave the country and not have to pay?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am not a puerarch - I will try to be a patriarch or die trying - but I find this part incredibly insightful:

The problem of threatpoint not only arises because it puts unilateral control in the hands of only one partner (with no fear of repercussion), but also because that it puts that control in the hands of the women in the relationship- the one who craves her man to be the dominant one.

This sounds indeed like a marriage killer in places and amongst people who were raised in female empowered marriage (thankfully we didn't) because it could lead to this feedback cycle: both man and women subconsciously know the deal - they have a fight - women threatens divorce and that also means alimony etc. - guy is scared and backs off - he loses dominance points - THEREFORE he loses attractiveness points in the eyes of his wife - THEREFORE she is actually one step closer to actual divorce - therefore the next such threat will be more serious and so on.

Americans, this is basically what is happening in your circles?

I guess I am in a very lucky situation that we are we are Eastern Europeans and I know how my wife's family and whole village would shame her like a failure if she would divorce me so I guess I can pull off the traditional family stuff, even though we moved to the West, but if we were raised in circumstances where people are conscious of this then it can be indeed so destructive that basically marriage gets too dangerous.

Shit. This really does not have a solution. Other than the obvious one: you have to shame the living crap out of divorced women. This worked and could work.

I have another solution but I guess you will not like it: if you marry a 34 year old woman why would she divorce when she is already hitting the wall? Of course the answer to the question why would you marry a 34 year old is kids. Kids are the only reason why marry anyone. I think even gay marriage is largely invented by people who want kids by surrogacy or something because otherwise just why. You marry whenever you want kids more than sex or romance. Marriage is not a romantic institution, it is not for romance, not for sex, as long as you want this never marry. Marriage is for kids. Once you want kids you can marry a wall hitting but still fertile woman. This only happens when you want kids much more than sex with attractive young women.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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