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The Case Against Female Self-Esteem - "constantly expanding the definition of rape are ways for feminists to indulge their desire for vulnerability in a way that doesn’t conflict with their view of themselves as 'strong' and 'empowered.'"

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September 26, 2013
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http://mattforney.com/2013/09/16/the-case-against-female-self-esteem/


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Title The Case Against Female Self-Esteem - "constantly expanding the definition of rape are ways for feminists to indulge their desire for vulnerability in a way that doesn’t conflict with their view of themselves as 'strong' and 'empowered.'"
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 68
Comments 22
Date 26 September 2013 03:25 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/174978
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1n6jdt/the_case_against_female_selfesteem_constantly/
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[–][deleted] 26 points26 points | Copy

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[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

But everything is rape!

Honestly, how do feminists still keep getting attention?

[–]TheIronyPuppy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because they are women. They get attention like children get attention. The only difference is, is that the previous generation made changes that suited them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Everything is rape. Everything is misogyny. Hijacking loaded words to drive an agenda.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Someone wants to get their dick sucked at the end of the day.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

certainly won't be the white knight

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Which is the irony of it all.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds right. Seems like TRP is mostly about chipping away at the false sense of confidence that women seem to have. Women are worriers. That's what they are biologically inclined to do in order to protect their children. Men are hunters. We go out and take what we want or die fighting. Our confidence is our ally because it allows us to have ambition. Confidence is an enemy to females because it prevents them from being a caretaker and betrays their biology.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

Wow this article is great, a lot of gem insights...

The vast majority of girls work useless fluff jobs: government bureaucrats, human resources and various other makework positions that exist to give them the illusion of independence. The jobs that keep the country running—tradesmen, miners, farmers, policemen, the military—are still overwhelmingly dominated by men. If every girl was fired from her job tomorrow, elementary schools would have to shut down for a couple days, but otherwise life would go on as usual.

The bolded quote especially, it is pretty much true. I'd throw in nurses there as well, but thats about it.

Insecurity is integral to femininity. [...] Part of our identity as men based in women needing us, if not necessarily in a material sense, then in an emotional one, though material and emotional vulnerability often go hand in hand. That female insecurity is a crucial ingredient for unlocking our inner masculine instincts. If a girl needs me, feels that her life would end if she were to lose me, I’m doubly inspired to be there for her, to shield her from the cruelty of the world. Frankly, it’s pretty hot.

Very true as well. Feeling needed is for most men is attractive and a big turn on. These days it is how they keep their beta orbiters.

The emotional dissonance from this feminist social engineering is why antidepressant usage and mental illness are skyrocketing among young women. Ordinarily a depressed or insecure girl would seek solace in the loving embrace of a man, but daily hits from her good friend Saint Xanax short-circuit her feminine instincts.

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in their bones, girls know that their toxic, feminist you-go-grrl ideology is a lie. Why do you think the average urban slut machine is downing enough Prozac to poison the water supply? Pharmacological assistance is the only way she can make it through her day without slitting her wrists, or alternately realizing that her life is a complete lie. Every day, women show through their actions that they despise their strong, independent lives.

Good insight into why so many young woman are taking depression and anxiety medication (recent studies show upwards of 50%!). I always assumed it had something to do with birth control or feminist-caused cognitive dissonance, but this theory about the lack of a committed bond with a male is pretty interesting as well.

[–]Buchloe-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

I had a pretty feminist girlfriend recently. I always wondered why I felt so emasculated in the relationship, and why I was attracted to her when she cried or displayed intense insecurity, but couldn't stand our when she asserted her "strength as a woman". Had a lot of mom issues pop up on that relationship because of the power dynamic. Starting to understand more why that was. Also, all I had to probably do was call bullshit instead of cower away and let fear of her wrath control me. I think out would have put her in check and that deep down she would have respected it, but in reality I think it was so ingrained in her that the relationship would never work. Frankly, I don't have energy to constantly try to battle that shit.

[–]Buchloe-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

PS, I'm brand new to red pill theory, so this is all very interesting and insightful to me. It's a new perspective

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[–]Buchloe-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

would you explain setting frame?

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[–]Buchloe-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

I see what you're saying. Yeah, I've always kind of figured the thing to do in a relationship was basically try to give the chick everything she could ever want, except it always ends up being at the expense of what I want so I get resentful when really it's my own fault. With the quid pro quo statement, are you saying that when the woman tries to get you to do something you don't want to, to agree only of they do something for you as well, as long as it's not sexual in nature?

[–]not-claudius6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I disagree a little bit. I don't think his concept and the concept of self-esteem applied to women in Western society needs to be what it is. I think women can have self-esteem and be self-confident, but the shitty way it is presented in the Western world today means that it can be a bad thing because what it does is it makes both men and women believe self-esteem should be the same thing for each and everyone of them and this leads to absurd results and even some dangerous consequences (author notes prozac, etc) because the difference between men and women should be embraced, not reduced.

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[–]Senior Contributorwhiskey_bearfist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

must not be a stem degree in "reading good"

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Buyer's Remorse != Rape. Women who cry rape because of Buyer's remorse are weak by any measurement standard (except feminism apparently).

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From the moment they’re old enough to speak, girls in America are bombarded with propaganda that artificially boosts their self-esteem. They’re told that they’re shpecial and you-nique because they have an extra X chromosome. They’re told that they’re smart, that they can do anything, that they deserve respect merely for existing. They’re encouraged to derive self-worth not from their inherent feminine nature but from their college degree, their job or the other illusory trappings of achievement in a man’s world.

I find this paragraph contradictory, on one hand it's saying "They’re told that they’re shpecial and you-nique because they have an extra X chromosome.", which is implying that they are not special just for being, but then it says "They’re encouraged to derive self-worth not from their inherent feminine nature".

So which is it? Do women have a good nature that needs to be fostered, or are women inherently not special?

[–]Endorsed ContributorUsherai-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminine nature is not the same thing as having a vagina.

Feminists ironically enough push women away from feminine nature and lead them to deriving worth from masculine achievements, while simultaneously boosting their self-esteem just because they have a vagina. It's nonsensical, but bitches be crazy.



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