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Feminists Are Successfully Creating A Society Of Shameless Sluts

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Title Feminists Are Successfully Creating A Society Of Shameless Sluts
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 59
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Date 17 October 2013 07:14 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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[–]puaSenator36 points37 points  (56 children) | Copy

Oooh. I'm just now getting through a long piece on just this topic. I'll give the one page TL;DR quickie version: It's no mystery that women tend not to even care at "why" men feel certain ways about things, since they are so emotionally tied to the now -- they just care about how things make them feel.

The slut topic is the most significant reflection of this misunderstanding. Logically, on the outside you'd think that men -- the sex that absolutely is fascinated and driven by sex -- would encourage sluts. You'd think slut shaming would be reserved only for women shaming other women. Yet, strangely men slut shame women? Why? It seems counter productive for achieving our objectives.

Women simply don't understand this, so they are trying to force men to change their values to suit them (notice a trend here?). Women can have all the standards and values in the world, but soon as men try to have their own standards that are different from women's, that's sexist!

The problem is because women fail to think "why?" They aren't even attempting to get inside the brain of a man, and think, "Why do men seemingly like sluts, but at the same time shame them?"

The answer is simple. Sluttiness is something men want in throwaway women. Women that we want nothing to do with. Women that can fall for our game, give us what we want, by fulfilling our sexual desires without the commitment. That's why men like to fuck sluts. So when we see girls slutting around we think to ourselves, "Oh, she's one of those throwaway chicks. Okay, I'll go have my fun with her."

See, when a man sees a woman that he wants to have sex with, it's purely physical. We don't have to like her personality, enjoy her insights, be drawn in by her feminine, or care about her values. Long as she's attractive enough and willing to have sex with us, we don't really care. We are just here for sex. She can be the most annoying and awkward person on the planet. We just look at her, physically, and think, "Yes or no?". I guess I will fuck that. It's literally that. It doesn't require anything else to arouse us into fucking. If a guy is going to fuck you the first night, don't assume you have a relationship chance. Don't think he's bringing you to bed because of your personality, your values, or your similar opinions. You've literally only had to pass one test for the ONS: Are you attractive enough for him to fuck you. That's it.

Women, on the other hand are attracted by the full package. Looks are pretty low on that list. They like the confidence, the mystery, the suave, the humor, and being drawn in by his masculine. She wants more than just the physical body. She wants so more. This is why you don't see female 7s running around having one night stands with 5s. Unlike men, they are having one night stands with men above them on the latter, not down. You aren't often going to see a cute chick hanging all over and trying to fuck a moderately attractive guy that's socially awkward, nervous, and annoying. It just doesn't happen. Because that type of man can't ignite her emotions. It's impossible for that guy to get her aroused, unlike men who just need to imagine her naked.

See, when men enter a relationship, it's an emotional affair. And what we want is emotional commitment from a woman. We need to trust her with our emotions now on the table. Now, if she's an emotional polygamous, fucking every guy that arouses her emotions -- it scares the shit out of us. We don't want to risk investing our emotions into someone who so easily gets emotionally involved with so many different men.

Men, when looking for LTRs, want women with higher values and awareness. We want women who aren't allowing themselves to be treated like disposable fucks by other men. She only fucks in relationships with men she likes, and knows that likes her back. This shows to us men that she's not the type to sleep around by lustfully falling into every guy she finds charming. When she sleeps with us, it means because she actually cares about us. She's the commitment type we respect.

But no. Women fail to allow men to have their standards. And now look at this fucking mess. Divorce rates are through the roof to the point men are just giving up on marriage. Men are actually having a harder and harder time to find quality women.

But since men, inherently are disposable, we aren't allowed to bitch about the situation. We are expected to just man up and deal with it. That's the nature of being a man -- our absolute disposability. We just have to put up with it, because if I don't, no worries there is a horde of other men with viable sperm lined up to take my place for refusing to play the game.

Now, I'm not bitching about the situation, let me make that clear. But I just want women to understand the men's side to it, and understand that their actions are having consequences. If she's finding it harder and harder to find a man willing to commit. Well, her sex created this situation. They got greedy and have began to hurt the very foundations that they desire.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't wine and dine your porn? You animal!

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This shows to us men that she's not the type to sleep around by lustfully falling into every guy she finds charming.

To the women reading this, those guys are out there. They can play with your emotions like Yo-Yo Ma can play the cello.

[–]whatever62 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think the main factor in why men think sluts are disposable/worthless is because you can never trust a slut on who the father of her child is.

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[–]Meterus12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

You hate women who won't have sex with you but you slut-shame the ones that do.

What I want is a woman who's easy for me and hard for other men.

[–]puaSenator16 points17 points  (27 children) | Copy

I don't mind having this conversation, because it's a good one to have. But I'd appreciate it if you didn't use sarcasm. I see some points you are making in there, but your hyperboles and sarcasm make it difficult to have an honest discussion.

Do you want to talk about this or not? I recommend you start by actually reading my post.

So women who have sex a lot are disposable sluts but it's totally okay for men?

The whole point of that post was to address this very point. Context is everything. I thought I made it very clear. While it seems hypocritical, it's really not once you look at the subtle underlying motivations between each. It's not "just" sex. It means different things to each gender.

Men and women perceive the world differently, it's just a fact -- I'm sorry. If you don't believe me, go ask a female to male transexual yourself. They'll have a lot to say on how incredibly different the way they viewed the world and values after getting testosterone treatment.

Don't shame us men for having values that you don't like. I'm sure most men don't like the fact that women are attracted to wealth, but you don't hear us screaming how not fair it is. We just deal with it and either choose to play the game or not, and suffer the consequences.

I find it absolutely ridiculous that men can't have their own set of values. It seems like the only values women approve of men having are the ones that they themselves also find valuable. But soon as it's something women don't agree with, all of a sudden we are wrong.

I'm sorry. That's just life. You still have the right to sleep around all you want. And men still will marry you. But if you want a quality man in life, they probably aren't going to date someone that's known for fucking tons of dudes.

Protip: If you do want to have sex all the time because you love it. Get a FWB. It's much better to have return sex all the time with one dude rather than multiple dudes over the same period.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Grow up and make your own decisions. Accept the repercussions. If a woman were to turn away a man with too many notches on his belt, than he too faces the consequences of his actions. Just don't expect everyone to airbrush over your past just because you try to shame them into your lifestyle.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Word. Up.

This is what it all comes down to. I don't think the issue is about notches but more with regrets or blotches. A notch is a sexual accomplishment / someone you are proud of and enjoyed sleeping with a blotch is someone you didn't enjoy being with or are ashamed of.

I know men and women with both... however in my particular experience women take it more harshly where as men usually just seem not to care.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Blotches suck. The unfair part for males is that sometimes those Blotches happened when they were raped by a woman (like what happened to me), and your friends instead of consoling you, laugh at who you slept with. But we are adults living with our decisions and experiences. No one gets a free pass.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am sorry to hear that man. I know how you feel.

I got totally shit faced one night, blacked out, and came to in the backseat of my buddy's car with a female aquentence of mine riding me. This would have been fine BUT she was engadged to someone. As soon as I realized what was going on, I stopped her said I didn't feel good.

Instead of taking me back to my friends, she left me in the fucking bathroom of the club.

That same night another friend of mine ran up to me and kissed me on the mouth. Although, I'd much rather have ended up with her that night, it would be totally unaceptable if I ran up and kissed her. Might get me attacked or kicked out the club.

Thing is if you turn the tables on those situations it is fucking rape and unaceptable behavior but since we are dudes it's just "funny as hell".

I dunno. I shouldn't have gotten that wasted. I take responcibility for my actions and all that but what makes it rape to me is that she was engagded and that instead of taking me back to my friends she dumps me somewhere.

The facebook message she wrote to me a few days later was fucking crazy.

[–]NeedsMoreData11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy

It's not difficult for a woman to be a slut. Most can walk into the street, yell I want to have sex, and have a dozen takers.

Hence - women slut, not commendable.

Its CONSIDERABLY more difficult for a man. They actually have to try to be a slut.

So yes, it is different. news flash, men and women are different. THEY LIED TO YOU.

[–]Eloni1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's totally okay for men?

I don't have sex with men, so I don't care.

[–]Endorsed Contributor3030303030303025 points26 points  (8 children) | Copy

Fine by me, it's bad news for society and future but I don't care anymore.

Don't get married, don't get involved, wear a condom and fuck them. Sluts make my job easier so I like them.

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[–]Endorsed Contributor303030303030301 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

true

I still want a kid, Disney like family picture is gone from my head though.

[–]bitcoin_lady1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

From my understanding, you need a girl that:

  • Had few partners.

  • Is not a party girl, not have many party girlfriends.

  • Has absolute trust in you.

What else besides this?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Biggest one for me is, a girl must have a good relationship with her father.

[–]veggie_girl0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hire a surrogate.

[–]thr0waway001414 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

God I love the top comment:

Why should a man with abundance ever commit to a slut? That's buying a used car for the same price as new while you could still change car everyday for free. Makes no sense. Of course women with alot of mileage under the hood dont want to listen to that, so they try to trick their younger and still chaste sisters to become sluts, so men have no choice but to marry one. We as men aka buyers in the relationship market not only have the power to demand a better product, but we also have the responsibility of doing so otherwise we all get ripped off.

And ladies if you want to be sluts, knock yourself out. Just dont expect me to buy you breakfast when I already fed you my seed last night, and your beta boyfriend kept trying to call you, wondering when you were going to come home, while you were coming in my bed.

The bold text is my "problem" with so many men nowadays [it's a problem comparable to 'Tragedy of the commons']. Due to most men putting up with tons of shit, the average quality of women has gone down drastically for the last few generations [as there is almost no incentive for them to be higher quality]. Good news for those men who only care about sex [it's cheaper than it's ever been], but bad news for men like me who are looking for a quality woman for an LTR. What would have been a "standard" quality woman 50 years ago is now a high quality woman, and the high quality women from back then are the unicorns of today.

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[–]NeedsMoreData1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reluctantly accepted, still hate it. On a personal level it makes sense. On a society level - bad sauce when only the people who don't care are reproducing.

[–]rapey_raperson11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think you underestimate women: they are fully capable of becoming shameless sluts without feminism influencing them.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just give them social media and smart phones.

[–]Wolfwoodd11 points12 points  (13 children) | Copy

I don't know about you guys, but I could use more "shameless sluts" in my life. I don't really see the problem here.

/spinning plates FTW

[–]HappyJerk[🍰] 12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy

I don't really see the problem here.

It is a problem. It causes serious psychological damage to women. It causes psychological damage to men too, but I don't think as much.

[–]NahDudeFkThat7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

stds

much harder to find a girl who commits to you because she's too busy "spinning plates" and sucking different dicks every day

etc.

the main reason sluts exist is because they overcompensate for their lack of marriage/GF value. in short, sluts arent repulsive because theyre sluts, theyre repulsive because they cannot get a quality partner without easily opening their legs

i guess a slut would be OK to mess with (no LTR), but only if her history has been with QUALITY partners

[–]RobotCookie-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy

That makes you a slut by your own definition, right?

[–]DavidTIntellectual4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, it makes him a stud.

[–]RobotCookie-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You red pill guys are funny, haha. This was the most hilarious random subreddit find of the day for me. Well, /r/shittyfoodporn was pretty funny too.

[–]gohammer37 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

The word "rape culture" is overused by these delusional and easily offended feminists.

[–]finalfantasybrownies24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's overused every time is is used.

[–]iseeyou13125 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not when describing the prison system which is what it was initially used to describe. Feminists hijacked the term with their made-up (literally) statistics.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

They tend to ignore prison rape as well.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don't give a shit.

[–]RedFerrumy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is great news! I love sluts!

[–]kilik20491 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I like tattoos and Skrillex cut :(

[–]Terry_Bruce_Dick1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm kinda ok with that part, because I like getting laid, and I have no interest in a relationship.

[–]lifesbrink3 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy

I don't understand the tattoo bashing. What is wrong with tattoos?

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

They're a textbook example of a red flag: not necessarily bad by themselves, but very often associated with things you want nothing to do with.

Also, beautiful girls absolutely don't need them.

[–]puaSenator21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

To me it shows how prone to the wall they are. They live too much in the now. They are obsessed with their short term beauty. They aren't taking into regards that in 20 years, it's going to be trashy. Personally, I don't want my wife in her later years with huge tattoos all over her body.

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"Good evening, ambassador, this is my wife, Jessica. As you can see she partied hard in her 20s."

[–]Helmut_Newton6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, imagine a girl trying to explain to her kid(s) why she has a "Cum Dumpster" tramp stamp.

[–]Rienfleche10101127 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, I don't find them attractive on women. Not to say that other guys don't.

But, in my experience it's something that takes away from the overall beauty of a chick.

It's like hey, here's this amazing looking girl.

But, then you see the giant scorpion on her back or the zombie draped all around her left arm.

I dunno. I'm certainly not a speaker for every guy out there.

But if I had to take a guess, I'd say that most guys would choose a non tatooed version of a 10 than a tatted one.

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[–]Rienfleche1010116 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, tramp stamps I don't mind as much.

It's not in a place that's seen in public so that is a plus.

But good lord, when they combine leg and chest tattoos with piercings and teal coloured skrillex hair.

I mean, even if she's in shape, it's just awful.

[–]TannhauserOverture-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

i dont even like tatoos in porn, just saying

[–]RedSunBlue20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ferraris don't need bumper stickers.

[–]phathack8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't understand the tattoo bashing. What is wrong with tattoos?

Aside from those that got them while in the military, Tattoos have always been associated with Criminals & Gangs. Pimps Tattooed their girls to prove who they belonged to.

IMHO women who get tattoos like this chick are showing how irresponsible they are in not considering how those things will looks when they get older. Subconsciously they are proudly proclaiming look at me I'm a Slut and dont give a shit what anyone thinks or what I look like.

As a business owner I have several women working for me as sales people. I won't have someone covered in tattoos representing my company as a sales person.

On the plus side its a giant red flag that says this is not a women to have a relationship with.

[–]salami_inferno0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Aside from those that got them while in the military, Tattoos have always been associated with Criminals & Gangs. Pimps Tattooed their girls to prove who they belonged to.

How old are you? I'm 22 and I've never associated tattoos with gangs, that's shit my parents and grandparents do. I know plenty of people with tattoos that are good people so I don't hold the association that tattoos mean sketchy shit. I wouldn't date a woman with tattoos since it's not what I'm looking for but to me it doesn't automatically mean dirty slut. The most loyal woman I've ever dated had 2 tattoos, she was also the only woman I've ever dated that had any. Now in all fairness they were classy and in places that can easily be hidden with clothing. Tattoos in places that can't be hidden are an immediate deal breaker for me.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It depends, if its a small tattoo that can be covered im fine with it. But big tattoos and ones that can't be covered show me this girl demonstrates poor judgment and doesn't think ahead about her actions. I do find them attractive sometimes, but I wouldn't enter a LTR with a girl with too many

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was wondering that as well. I think a lot of the guys here are a bit too extreme in their beliefs about women with tattoos. If anything I've seen more bad behavior from women who don't have tattoos, so whatever.

I think the right tattoo in the right place can be quite attractive, myself. It's just another accessory, like an earring. Albeit, one that can't be taken off without lasers.

[–]magicalbird0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It all depends on the tattoo for me. If it's just flowers for flowers sake what a loss of potential.

[–]gopher88-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop Victim blaming!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Isn't there a lot of talk about "spinning plates" here? Why shouldn't women be "sluts"? Slut away...

[–]FortunateBum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is "slut shaming" really a thing? All I know is that I'm happy when a chick has sex with me and I like that she enjoys sex. What's the problem? Who is doing this "shaming"? How is it being done? I honestly don't think I've ever witnessed "slut shaming" in real life.

[–]DavidTIntellectual0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sidebar material

[–]Mike_The_Bike-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can't say I agree with this guy fully, if we believe in the right to sleep with who we want when we want, then women should too.

The cheating video was kind of unnecessary too for his point.....just seems like this guy is extremely bitter over a passed relationship, I get it we've all been there at some point in our lives.

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I'm trying to figure out why more sluts is a bad thing? I love sluts! Fuck them and treat them like the trash they are! :)))

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[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

bitch ass cunt nigger fuckbags

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