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The True Nature Of Women | Roosh: "Water takes the shape of the container it fills."

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Title The True Nature Of Women | Roosh: "Water takes the shape of the container it fills."
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 32
Comments 10
Date 28 April 2014 09:00 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/175003
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/247vwy/the_true_nature_of_women_roosh_water_takes_the/
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[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

I like the concept that men are the glass, women are the water. A man is solid and steady, while a woman is more adaptable and will conform to his boundaries and fill in the missing voids.

She wants the man to have that solid frame because she typically lacks it herself... Ideally, when she adapts to his frame, she will synergistically add to it, making things better for the benefit of both. That's a good partnership.

Many partnerships don't work because 1) the guy's frame is weak to start with, and 2) he does not set boundaries and has no concept of "training" a woman how to behave.

Some women, given no restraint, will try to get away with whatever they can... If he doesn't take the lead, she will. If he doesn't set boundaries, she will take more freedom and escalate her demands. It all goes to shit when he doesn't hold frame (leaky glass) and step up to lead in the relationship.

EDIT: Roosh focuses on the bad water: how slutty women are the problem. As TRP recommends, focus on being a better glass so you deserve better water.

[–]veggie_girl11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Roosh focuses on the bad water: how slutty women are the problem. As TRP recommends, focus on being a better glass so you deserve better water.

It's easy to forget that feminism only has its power because men have allowed it to do so. As many have said, feminism is a giant shit test against humanity, and we as a civilization have failed it so badly that we need places like TRP in order for men to learn how to function properly again.

Anyone can talk about how shitty women behave all day, but water takes the shape of the container it fills. Women do not have honor and their solipsism will lead to them to whatever selfish means they can possibly achieve. As a good example, when was the last time you saw a male equivalent of this (possibly NSFW)?

I believe seasoned redpillers understand that women aren't the problem, we in fact, by nature going to act as wild and uncivilized as men/religion/our social constructs will allow us to. Is there a single female equivalent to this level of self-induced discipline for the sake of others? No. Going back to the Miley Cyrus reference and the wide popularity of "Can't be tamed," that is the general shit-test that feminism is throwing out at society. It's in effect mocking men and saying they don't have the balls to put their women in place.

While I hate feminism and think it is deplorable. What's worse is men that endorse it and allow it - because, they are giving water a poor container. Water without a container goes flat and disperses into nothing useful.

[–]2RedPill4LYF5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

and we as a civilization have failed it so badly that we need places like TRP in order for men to learn how to function properly again.

The difference is night and day for me. I owe a debt of gratitude to the women who complained about this sub.

[–]maderail4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

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[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

This article was an elaborate way of saying something fundamental: Women will act exactly as badly as they can get away with.

When guys are thirsty enough and women can be mega-bitches but still get all of the attention they crave, they really enjoy exerting their power over men.

When bitches can even get a date with the fat pimply guys, the local women act downright pleasant.

This is a life lesson. This is not just true about women, guys. You know that bully in the third grade who didn't leave you the fuck alone until you punched him? He treated you that way because you let him. Everything other people do to you and every slight other people deal you is your fucking fault. And collectively, our fucking faults. Thirsty loser men ruin women for the rest of us.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

What I find interesting here is that Roosh travels the world to get away from Western chicks, and a lot of people here have debated the merits of moving elsewhere to start families, but it's not because the women are different, it's simply because the markets are different. You can find yourself a perfect 10 with all the attributes you want in some foreign land, but when feminism strikes, what's to become of your marriage?

[–]theozoph0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can find yourself a perfect 10 with all the attributes you want in some foreign land, but when feminism strikes, what's to become of your marriage?

Then perhaps it's not the quality of women we should look for in foreign countries, but the quality of men. If women go wrong when weak men allow them to, then we should look for countries with a strong male ethos where feminism is held as the joke it is.

That is, if you want to get married. If the cad lifestyle's enough for you, by all means stay in the West. The more feminist the better.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

...This is the true nature that will come forth if society doesn’t put constraints or limitations on a woman’s behavior and choice.

It sounds awful without a massive amount of context but women need men not a s a singular man not as a series of men in their lives but as an inescapable boundary for their behavior. All men need to act as a yard stick in that their measure of women is unyielding and consistent. We need to share conviction on what sort of behaviors are good and bad and we need to share the knowledge we poses of specific women. We are faced with a female collaborative matriarchy that is destroying civility and society called feminism and the only thing we can do is to form a new patriarchy a system in which we only allow women certain choices if they want to stay in the social graces of popular culture and society.

I don't think slut shaming is necessary as much as I want that to become the culture I know that there are plenty of man-whores that don't want to do anything else with their lives than fuck bitches and I know that I need their help in this effort because the other men that are looking for families as a percentage have fewer alphas in their midst and the women will follow the rules the alpha lay down.

Essentially we lay out 2 classes of women you can be; a ho or a home maker.

"2 dicks makes a whore; she can be a wife never more." if we drill this into our young men, alphas will have a better pick in both walks of life and the scraps left over for the betas with some conviction will be better than they are now. Any woman that doesn't fall into one of the 2 roles will be ultimate trash and only desperate losers and fools would go for them.

If we can come up with a less derogatory word for whore and a more uplifting and meaningful term for a home maker/wife this would be a lot easier to pitch to women and we wont have to deal with being the direct target of all women that identify as feminists, the movement would slink under the radar.

Pros

  • If you want to fuck bitches the bitches you can fuck might as well be wearing yellow stars, they'll be obvious.

  • Women that are on the carousel will have the value of their pussy dropped once they lose their virginity and give it up more frequently.

  • Women that are of the promiscuous lifestyle will recognize that no man will marry them and will be more accepting of a plate type scenario possibly even a sort of discount harem if the only other option for male role models in their child's life is picking a bottom barrel loser.

  • Guys that want marriage wont have women that are on the carousel clogging the pipeline of good women.

  • There will be more good women in the marriage market out of fear of becoming social outcasts and never marrying.

  • Virgins brides/betrothed are statistically less likely to be in a disillusioned marriage/divorce.

  • The two groups of women will likely avoid each other creating a fracture in feminism.

  • Fewer divorces/less wasted resources.

Cons

  • This ideology would take time to spread and feminism would fight it with everything it has because women would lose their grasp on the reproductive power in a relationship and take them out of the drivers seat in most relationships.

  • some women in the marriage camp would expect their man to stay virgin until marriage as well but I don't feel like this is a significant problem as there will be a clas of guys that meet this challenge and if too many women expect this they will change their stance once they hear their uterus ticking at about 26.

  • White knights would take forever to convince and would try to break this as a way of getting girls.

  • Women in general would throw a big hissy fit when they realize that fucking 5 dudes in college cost them their chance at marriage, and young mothers would resent the new power structure and try to poison the minds of some of their children against this.

  • People that are staunchly anti-religion might join with feminists against this because one could perceive this victory for all as a victory for the religious or conservative.

  • Women would have less freedom and many would fall between the cracks.

If anybody else has more pro's or cons I'd be interested in your ideas.

As for keeping the ideology from collapsing stalling or being defeated the trick is teaching young men and boys the tricks to receiving female attention passing on our knowledge and making sure that they judge all women in this way so that women can not escape the social pressure to chose one path and stick to it.

"Whores aren't for dating or marriage they're for humping and dumping" would be another way of phrasing it, this strategy of social pressure would weed out the women that have a capacity to stick out a tough decision and significantly impact the quality of future generations for the better, In simple terms it's selection for the strongest mothers.

[–]Lzz110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The article was quite ridiculous. Why is he upset that sweet, feminine women who are most likely looking for a LTR and marriage and also knew he was wanted quick fuck, rejected him?

There is no insight to this.

[–]RPSavant5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are not born wearing heels. They are not born with the knowledge to take care of long hair or how to put on makeup. They are not born ready to honor their commitments. Such women are made, but even after that making, both macro environments and micro triggers will release what you do not want to be released, because within every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or background, is a bitch, a cunt, a slut, a golddigger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist, and an attention whore that is dying to get out and that, if certain conditions arise and she is placed in a certain container at a certain temperature, will thrust her worst upon you, and this, I’m afraid, is the true nature of women. This is the true nature that will come forth if society doesn’t put constraints or limitations on a woman’s behavior and choice.

Looks like we are shit out of luck because society ain't gonna do shit because it's the women who are the consumers and take señor beta's bucks to the shop to spend on stuff that won't fit in two weeks because her circumference is constantly increasing.

For every one of me who won't put up with a girl's crap there are 50 pushovers who are waiting with their "M'lady how doth thy do?"

and by the time they realize they have been duped they are old and worn out, and start posting on /feminism.

so where do we start? With ourselves? what can we do? We can only control ourselves. and hope there are enough Red pillars in the making to put a stop to this bad bad behavior.



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