The blurry line between the welfare state and child support - Dalrock

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Title The blurry line between the welfare state and child support - Dalrock
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Date 23 April 2016 04:27 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]1Entropy-71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can't comment on the US system (which seems kinda fucked from what I have read) but I used to be a divorce attorney in British Columbia and here is the way it worked:

If mama files for social assistance (welfare) and there are kids but no child support order or agreement in place then the file is handed over to a government-paid lawyer to track down the guy and secure a child support order. If mama otherwise qualifies for welfare, then she gets paid whatever by the state.

The government-paid lawyer will file for an order but then attempt to negotiate a consent order with the putative father. In the simplest cases, he hands over his last three tax returns and then a guideline amount is calculated on the most recent year.

Daddy pays the child support to the state. If it is less than the welfare the mama is receiving then the government keeps the child support and continues to have the guy pay them while they pay mama. If the child support is more than the welfare then that government program drops the file and has the guy pay the woman directly, although if she wants it can go through FMEP - the Family Maintenance and Enforcement Program - aka the government's child support collection agency.

Guideline amounts are typically 10% of pretax income for one child, 17% for 2 and about 25% for 3 kids.

Having your drivers license pulled is rare and jail time for contempt is even rarer (because it has to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt - not only that you didn't pay but that you could have paid but didn't).

Some horror stories do happen, but not as often as you might think from reading American stuff off the internet.

[–]smokebloom 3 points3 points [recovered] | Copy

In my mind there is no blurry line, it's all Statism.

[–]thefisherman19611 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, the state is more responsible for the destruction of the nuclear family than any other entity on the planet.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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