Hi, I'm fairly sure everyone here is aware of cluster B and how it appears to draw a parallel with the alpha/beta idea of modern thinking. The story parallels are between NPD/Alpha, BPD+HPD/Woman and Codependent/Beta.

Thing is, I've seen a couple of codependent women in my time. Sure they've had manipulative moments but personality defects and relationship factors eclipse this. And we know that there are HPD men.

This leads me to ponder the concept of interchangability of attributes. Is it possible for, say, an NPD beta provider to exist? Or a codependent alpha male? I know it seems to fly in the face of popular concept but I've thought it through and nothing I know of actually seems to contradict the possibility.

Thoughts? Offer your own opinions on Alpha/Beta definitions so that everyone knows what everyone else is talking about.