Got rejected, friend told me I should have invested further

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pythasaurus
January 24, 2019
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My friend (who's in a relationship) told me about this HB 9 on my course last Friday.

This Monday I approached her, made small talk and got her number. She blanked my text saying hello. I didn't text any further.

Today I found her in my uni's library, we chatted for 15 minutes and I sat next to her in the lecture. After the lecture I asked her out and she said no (busy with coursework, maybe another time - a kind no basically).

No big deal. I deleted our conversation and her number.

My friend who told me about her said I should've spent more time getting familiar with her, like another 2-3 weeks. I disagreed, arguing that initial attraction is a huge thing, and her answer wouldn't have changed if I asked a week or a month from now. Besides, she's the type of girl who has tons of beta orbitters, the last thing I want is to become one of them. I obviously kept quiet about TRP when discussing with him.

Does my friend have a point or did I do the right thing?


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Title Got rejected, friend told me I should have invested further
Author pythasaurus
Upvotes 182
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Date 24 January 2019 05:06 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]Son_of_Gatsby294 points295 points  (7 children) | Copy

You did the right thing and your analysis is spot on as well.

Maybe she'll come around if she sees you with other women, maybe she won't. But chasing would only result in more rejection

[–]pythasaurus67 points68 points  (5 children) | Copy

Thank you for the reassurance. Even the popular guys at my uni (e.g. my friend) are still BP in their thinking, but being unplugged only recently, their popularity makes me second guess TRP theory sometimes.

[–]Brain_Beam42 points43 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's a difference between good guy and nice guy.

[–]kendallb18329 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

He is telling you to trade more investment (of yours) for more attraction ( of hers). If only it worked that way, every poem writing, text spamming nice guy would be drowning in puss.

It's a covert contract. Dont fall for it. You read it right. Attraction is there or not. Girls give their number knowing they wont ever respond... easier than even a soft rejection. SO, I'd say your sticking point is when you chatted her up before the number, you didnt build enough emotion and rapport that she was looking forward to your text (or atleast wondering if youd text her or not).

When you dont get a text back, or get lame responses... always think back to the interaction before the number.. it needs to end with her very attracted and also feeling like you guys have been friends for a long time (comfort).

[–]sesamerox2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

right thanks for this hah

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just because they are blue pill doesn't mean they aren't attractive.

What it means is that women use them more than they submit to them. It means that women have a quick shot of enjoyment, then they get bored and want to throw them away like a big fat starbucks frap.

They are popular, they just have shitty romantic strategy, they don't know how to control and dominate women.

They have hot fucking women that run them behind the scenes, that emotionally manipulate them and use them for money.

These men will always hold high places in society, because being blue pill doesn't make you poor, it doesn't make you shit at socializing or networking or at having a job. It doesn't make you a bad father or son. It doesn't make you an idiot at all.

It just means a vast majority of women will never respect you. Not even on purpose, women THINK they like that shit, some of them really really do, and most of them really really are addicted to it.

That's all it is though, a toxic addiction to something less than what they really desire, a healthy controlled upstanding male.

That's why when you finish learning and apply the pill, women undeniably want you, because you are what they really and truly need.

They don't have to understand it, it's something they feel. The best part is how they have logic built on brainwashing that will on the surface make them act out and resist you, but her actions and your actions somehow align and 'against her will' she finds you attractive.

The signs are still the same for lack of attraction, and you will never be attractive to all women, but most women? Yes. You just have to be an ideal man.

Blue pill is what capitalism says an ideal male is. Red pill males are what nature has defined as the apex predator of our world. A true born savage fucking individual that can handle whatever needs handled.

Become that.

[–]livefreeofdie2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also short term success is different than long term success over life. When you meet Your popular friend after years many (not all) "may" not be in such a good space as they are today.

To second guess something you need data over a time. Your source of data is insufficient.

[–]omega_dawg9327 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

think about it this way... there's likely more than a few guys she fucked within an hour of meeting them.

op should be approaching multiples a day and getting plates lined up. don't put too much energy into this one girl... forget her.

if you're not that guy that fucks quick... don't wait too long to be him. I give most women about 2 weeks to decide if she wants to pursue me.

the only things i pursue are better health and a better job.

[–]goblinboglin99 points100 points  (3 children) | Copy

No, he is wrong.

You are an alpha male.

You have abundance mentality.

You don't have oneitis.

You couldn't give anymore fucks about that hoe, for she is just another prospect to you.

[–]theknowledgetaker7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wise words,wise words indeed sir.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Internet alphas

[–]aanarchist-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is funny.

[–]RedSkeller87 points88 points  (1 child) | Copy

You did everything right, your friend is wrong. Anyone who isn't interested after 2 attempts, texting back takes 2 seconds by the way, isn't interested. She is most likely not interested or on some high maintenance bullshit that isn't worth it. In fact, your attitude of fucking off the second you got rejected makes you only look better. She might come back around, I wouldn't be surprised.

[–]pythasaurus14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great to hear, thanks for the feedback.

[–]Kpwn8853 points54 points  (3 children) | Copy

Anything less than a "hell yes" is a no in my book. You're friend is an idiot.

[–]pythasaurus28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree. I once learned that it doesn't matter if the girl has a funeral to go to that day, she'll still make it if she's in to you.

[–]XT3M317 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is something men need to realize. if a girl wants to see you, she will go thru hell and back and combine worlds to make it happen.

if a girl hits me up with, " i have to insert small task here " and doesnt schedule a new day , i stop engaging. if she wanted ti see you she'll see you after or before unless literally impossible, which is where rescheduling comes in

[–]ProFriendZoner6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

His friend is not only blue pilled but blue balls as well.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (4 children) | Copy

My take on this is a bit different from the people here. I'm not sure how much they fuck girls from college classes, but I've hooked up with about 5--usually one per semester. I usually have the chance with two or three, too, but only one will be attractive enough for my tastes. Anyways what I'm trying to say is that what I'm saying is coming from experience.

Chatting with a girl in class, getting her number, inviting her out is unappealing to them. You're just "the guy who hit on them in class." Maybe if your SMV is sky high this approach could work, but most of the time, it's ineffective.

Instead, I "game the room." I talk to different people here and there, just be friendly, participate in class at a moderate level. I'm good-ish looking and pretty funny, so girls take notice. From here, I will catch girls sending me IOIs. They will either stare a lot or directly talk to me. Once this starts happening, you win. You are their "class crush," so you have to be an autist to fuck it up. Invite them to hang out, they will, and then fuck them easily. They already want to be fucked by you and have thought about it by this point.

If you do it right, the girls will chase YOU. I've been added on FB by three different girls throughout college classes. I had a girl slide into my EMAILS just yesterday, asking to "study together :)." I've added girls on social media and immediately had them slide into my DMs asking if I was "the cute guy from class." The key is that you just want them to want you. Act indifferent to girls, be cool and attractive, they will come. You have a whole semester--you don't need to start chasing day 1. They will be much more intrigued by a charismatic, good-looking guy who isn't chasing pussy than they will be by young Romeo-in-the-making.

[–]pythasaurus12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like your response, thanks for explaining out the whole process. I'll probably give it a try in class while actively gaming girls outside of class.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. And yeah, I am more straight-forward with girls outside of class. You have to tailor your game to the environment. In class, you have all semester and the girls don't change, so you let things develop slowly. On Tinder or on a night out, if you don't fuck the girl ASAP, she is as good as gone. So that's where the difference lies.

[–]nsummy8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

100% agreed. I think some of the people here are forgetting this girl was in a class (or are just plain giving bad advice by parroting the boilerplate response).

To add to the above response:

Its been my experience that my really good looking friends can successfully pull off the act of getting the number right away and setting something up with minimal conversation. These are the same friends though that easily meet so many girls that its like casting a net in the ocean for them. They are truly ambivalent and won't waste a second more than necessary.

If its in a semester long class you have all of the time in the world (3 months, close enough) to feel things out and build up a rapport. Your time investment is generally nil as you would be in class anyway. As said above, acting somewhat indifferent is the key. And if they make the first move, its a done deal. Obviously not every situation is the same though, and if you are getting many buying signals make a move and don't just play dumb.

TLDR; I think your friend was more than likely right. Initial attraction is big, but this girl probably gets asked for her number constantly. I mean just think of all of the matches on tinder that end up going nowhere. Men give out their number when they want to sleep with a girl. Women give it out when they want to have a conversation before sleeping with the guy. You have to give her a reason to want to talk to you.

P.S. you should have let it go when she didn't text you back.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K183 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're having to do work a few weeks to build rapport, attraction etc etc, as oppossed to being faster and more direct...then chances are your approach and game initially is shit.

If you're not standing out from all the other dudes just asking for a number, then there is something to work on.

You are playing by her frame, which shows your initial one isn't strong enough.

I dunno about you, but in my world, I ain't got weeks to warm a girl up, cuz I've got abundance.

[–]0io-9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only thing I would do differently is that you might save her number just so you can invite her for some kind of casual party along with other girls. When your friend Dave is going to have a bunch of people over to watch a football game on TV you can call her and 3 other girls from your back burner list. If any of them decide to come your friend Dave is not going to be upset that you brought a couple of HB9's to his party. Even if you never hook up with her it will give you some social proof with the other girls at the party. You can also be disinterested and aloof when you get questions like "is HB9 your girlfriend?" No she's just some girl from my history class. It doesn't really cost you anything and it's not a date, but maybe it makes you look more interesting to her (and other girls.)

[–]RexOverAll25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy

Bro you did the right thing, you can't spend weeks out of your life chasing a girl. By your write up I see you are an "Alpha Male" and not a beta male. Nice one yo, more fishes in the sea.

[–]pythasaurus20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

That means a lot man. And yeah definitely, there's at least 3,000,000,000 other women in the world. I study engineering but I still can't comprehend how huge that number actually is.

[–]006rbc5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

An HB 9 in an engineering course? A rare occurrence lol.

[–]Garathon16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also known as a HB5 in the real world, but your perspective gets skewed as an engineering student.

[–]2alpha-zach8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You did everything right for generic HB 9 girl.

Sometimes you can tailor to situations and girls better by investing a tiny bit(or even less) before asking them out. But knowing the right way and timing will come with experience.

For example, if she had a boyfriend, and you were gaming her, you’d obviously have to slow play it(invest more.) The question is more of how you invest. Don’t invest like a beta orbiter, helping her with homework, etc. Invest like an alpha. Intentionally flirting with her friends, joking with her, telling a story, kino.

Thoughts on some of the comments....

Generally, the reason to delete her number is to protect yourself from slipping into BP behavior when you’re in a dry spell, having a bad day, drunk, or the like. It’s very common or easy to make another really beta stab when your thinking is off.

Going forward, pretend she doesn’t exist. Not in hurt way or asshole way, just as if you have better things to do that give time or attention to someone who responds to your texts with ‘hello.’ Hopefully this is true. This will build attraction, but don’t get your hopes up about it materializing. If she approaches you remain aloof but polite. Under no circumstances give her value(help with homework, time listening to her story about her weekend, etc) unless she invests in you first. Don’t explain why, she’ll know why.

If she starts showing IOI’s or she finds ways to talk to you, you can slowly become less aloof, but def don’t get chummy. If you think you see a moment where she’s consistently investing, while you are only reciprocating minimally, then you can ask her out again or invite to a group function outside of class to game her more directly.

Attention is the coin of the realm with women. Don’t give away your most valuable asset.

[–]pythasaurus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you, your comment is one of the only comments which deals with how to behave going forward. Saved.

[–]askmrcia7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think you did the right the thing. You made a move twice. She knew you were interested. If she makes a move I say go for it, until then move on

[–]pythasaurus9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes I fell in to the friendzone trap too often in my BP days by 'building familiarity' like my friend suggested I should've done. Never again.

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I did the same thing when I was younger. I was in your situation my freshman year of college and kept pursuing and it got me nowhere. Lol

[–]CanaryCherryJewel25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

They always come back fella, you made the right call.

[–]SuperCrazy0714 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

This isn’t true. She seems not interested. While OP took the correct course of action, the most likely end to this is she remains uninterested.

To “come back around “ she’d have to have been interested to begin with.

[–]pythasaurus6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're right. I'd rather not hear that she may come around, comments like that just give fuel to oneitis. There are hundreds of millions more girls out there to game. Merely asked my question to gain insight on how to game the next girl.

[–]CanaryCherryJewel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He isn’t right, he just doesn’t have a high market value I assume. Bitches always come back lookin for me, maybe not him. Drop em cold cut

[–]MisunderstoodAsian5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good move, your friend probably doesn't know about TRP

[–]SeasonedRP4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You did the right thing. And good job showing confidence and assertiveness in getting her number and asking her out.

[–]yumyumgivemesome3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

From the TRP standpoint, you did it right. However, if your only goal was to get a date out of her, then you obviously could have done better. Better may have required more time building attraction. You always hear about how women know within 5 minutes whether they want to sleep with a guy, but that "statistic" is skewed because most guys don't have the balls or skills to maintain frame in the face of a minimal rejection and continue to build attraction.

I once got a girl's number who was far out of my self-perceived league. When I texted her, she didn't even remember who I was, and her responses were lackluster. Some weeks later, I added her on snapchat, and she added me back. Then I made sure to post interesting things to my stories, and even directly sent a couple to her just for the hell of it. They were interesting enough that they caused her to spark a conversation. We chatted casually for a month because I lived in a different town (this was minimal time investment). And then we set up a date for the next time I visited her town. This became a nice little FWB situation for every few months when I happened to visit her town.

In other words, improve yourself and your gaming. As you learned, this girl didn't want to fuck you within 25 total minutes of interaction, and congrats for moving on swiftly. However, if you had been more adept at understanding her desires and building attraction, maybe you would've realized that you only needed 26.

[–]ProFriendZoner0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Something else to add ... he may have found out in those 25 minutes that it wasn't worth persuing.

Then again maybe it's just that i'm old and with age comes being more picky. Can't tell you how many women i've haven't pursued after just a little interaction.

As Rodney Dangerfield said "The 8 hours of bullshit isn't worth the 8 seconds".

[–]nsummy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen to that. I'm 36 and as I get older, I don't think I get more picky, but my standards have definitely shifted. Usually the stupid and annoying girls are not the best in bed. And then you have to deal with them afterward. Just generally not worth it. Validation from your friends also changes. When your young, they only care how hot she is, when you are older its cooler to be with a doctor than a hooters waitress.

[–]yumyumgivemesome0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's true. If he saw something extra interesting in this girl, then he might have been foolish for exerting absolute minimal, low-balls effort and giving up quickly. Or if he was able to discern within those 25 minutes that she had nothing special to offer, then he wasted X number of minutes from the moment that he should've realized it.

I'm more of the type that every girl essentially gets merely a soft next. Who knows what tomorrow holds? How am I hurting myself by keeping her # stored in my phone? It seems ridiculous when guys get butthurt and immediately delete the girl's # and all the text conversations that went with it. And if they do that emotional deleting bullshit after a hookup, then it's fucking retarded because they may actually need evidence that the hookup was completely consensual one day down the road.

[–]Talinor099 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

If it’s any consolation I randomly met a HB9 in class in college. Had some small talk. Hung out after our second lecture together then fucked her that night.

If they’re into you they’re into you. If she’s into you and busy she would have given you another time to meet.

In my case I wouldn’t have even considered my SMV to be that high back then. Was decent looking but out of shape but had good social proof from lots of other girls in class.

[–]pythasaurus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha that's awesome man. Whereabouts do you go to uni? I'm in the UK and it feels like building rapport with the girl is a huge deal compared to the US. I'm sure same day lays still happen here though.

But yeah, I refuse to live in denial because that means more time lost when I could be gaming other girls. I think social proof is extremely important, and something I need to work on building.

[–]ProFriendZoner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

THIS right here. if you ask out and woman and get a no, it's a no. If you ask out a woman and get a no, but some other time would be good that is an indicator of interest. I'm not saying all systems are go at this point, she can still flake or say that just to not hurt your feelings or whatever.

[–]HastaPronto902 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

HB9? You mean a 7 I guess. We could analyze every little step, but that doesn't make sense, at the end she considered your SMV or value in general below hers. That's it.

[–]XT3M32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

people in relationships ironically give horrible dating advice. especially if you two disagree about how yall should be dating (ie red pill vs blue pill) . they want you to get your person of choice, how they got theirs. so your friend kept beating the drum with his thing. you dont have to do.

you made the right choice.

[–]mrpoopistan2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're going to put weeks into anything like this, it needs to be an investment in social circle building, not investing in one girl.

I could make an argument for trying to insinuate yourself into her social circle, but that has to be an investment you can see paying some dividends. If you don't know her social circle at all, then . . . no. Too much investment without knowing the potential payoffs.

Also, I remember the one girl in college -- this is years before TRP for me -- that I did invest time in. That girl didn't give me the time of day until I ignored her and was being hit on by a hotter chick. (Yes, this is very funny in retrospect through a TRP filter, but it pissed me off at the time.)

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[–]006rbc2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ask your friend how well his own advice works out for him. I bet he's orbiting quite a few girls.

[–]Bruchibre2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You did the right thing. People in relationships usually give shit advice about flirting with women.

[–]dutchgguy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I totally agree with initatial attraction.

[–]lerossignol771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good response imo. Stop pushing a wheelbarrow with... well no wheel. To be honest, my take on this that she has options. You’re either the guy with high SMV who goes straight to the point (I wanna fuck and nothing more). I don’t mean dress well or money or anything. I mean the kind of game that no girl is prepared for dressed well, money or any of that. Or you’re the orbiter who wants to play nice. Moving on and chatting up other girls in front of her works just as well. It’s up to you but I think that was the right move

[–]QueenSlapFight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You did the exact right thing. And the fact that you didn't enter orbit means there's a good chance she might make herself more available if you run into her again.

[–]TopOccasion291 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You did the right thing. Generally speaking, a woman will know in the initial moments of meeting you if she wants to fuck you or not and won't make it difficult.

My friend who told me about her said I should've spent more time getting familiar with her, like another 2-3 weeks. I disagreed, arguing that initial attraction is a huge thing, and her answer wouldn't have changed if I asked a week or a month from now.

Exactly. Your friend's method will only get you the exclusive membership in the beta orbiter friendzone territory.

[–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Non-exclusive membership you mean. He would be joining a mini club.

[–]TopOccasion290 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha you're right he can enjoy the added benefits of hanging out with other beta-orbiters. Very Pathetic.

[–]Fonzoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

there’s little I can add to the responses I’ve already read here. I only feel you shouldn’t have gone up to her after she didn’t text you back.

This is why I don’t even bother trying with someone I might run into again accidentally, mostly online is my advice

[–]shitinhermouth231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depending on her phase of cycle (follicular vs luteal) eithet answer works. Read rollos book

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You did the right thing, but there's no reason to ice her if she approaches you in the future. Don't worry about it, the key is abundance.

Go for more, making an impression on women is the first goal, eventually they will all want to fuck you.

Just keep working.

[–]BPasFuck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about.

You made the right move. For now, you don't know this girl's name, until she's trying to sit in your lap, or fish for trouser trout.

[–]Saiyyan_Ji1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is your friend good with women?

There's your answer.

[–]mgtownigga1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I dunno, I kind of agree with dude. You don't HAVE to be an orbiter, but hitting her up a few times over the course of a month could lead to something. Just because she didn't jump your bones that instant doesn't mean she woudln't consider it later. I've def fucked girls that werent attracted to me AT ALL when we first met. I mean when I was bigger than I am now and these girls were out of my league. Had I just given up, I woudn't have gotten some decent lays.

But I never became an orbiter, that's the big thing. No need to go to eitehr extreme (cutting them off prematurely vs. being a full out orbiter).

Honestly, unless you're extremely attractive, having that level of initial attraction is hard to do. I guess my perspective is different because i've been in both bodies, that of an attractive guy and that of a guy that had to lay some game before the pipe laying could occur

[–]TopOccasion290 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You make good points but i think her reaction to OP says it all. Either OP isn't really attractive and the hb9 deemed his smv too low or she had plans with some other guys who higher smv than OP.

The good thing is OP has self respect and would not pursue any longer until she hits him up. Op has planted a seed in her mind that he's interested and the female hamster will hamster some more if Op games other girls in her presence. If she doesn't come back then cool.

[–]mgtownigga1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah that's fine. I'm just saying that sometimes you can still hit her up ON OCCASION. I definitely don't think he should be overly persistent, but sometimes a reasonable amount of effort pays huge dividends. It's hard to say and he defintiely shoudn't focus on her, i just don't think sending something funny from time to time and seeing if she bites is a bad strategy. Sometimes building a rapport at a slow and steady rate pays big dividends down the line.

[–]DroppedPiano 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

You did everything right, except for deleting her number. Always save that shit

[–]pythasaurus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'll keep that in mind for the next girl. But I'm genuinely curious, how could I have benefitted from keeping her number?

She's already blanked me once - sending another message just lowers my status in her eyes. I've ensured that any conversation would have to be initiated by her since she still has my number.

[–]NeverLace1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good call. You did everything accordingly to theory. Now forget about her untill she reaches out.

[–]JonghyunForlyf160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like the others said, you're the right one here

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time to move on

[–]KettleLogic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you friend is right in his assessment you could of been more familiar. I'd need to know the blow by blow and see it but maybe you didn't open her in such a way that she was interested.

Everyone is telling you your friends an idiot. His not he knows more about the situation than any smuck in this comment sections. Take what he sees through a blue pill lens and consider what grains of truth are there for a redpill lens.

Was your text too weak and your intentions weasely to her? I've never gotten a girls number unless it was to organise a date. I'd never open with "hello" it doesn't work on dating apps it isn't going to work on text.

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Had you made enough of a connection on meeting to have her invest in the possibility of a date?

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Did you come across as too desperate?

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Your actions have been correct on how to handle the rejection but don't dismiss your friend or any insight you can gain from this interaction.

[–]Startlivingfornow0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

If you had spent more time, you could have changed things.

Hot girls like that have mad ASD because they are used to being manipulated for their looks. If she gave you her number she was interested, but you didn’t game her enough in order to build comfort.

Then by asking her out too soon, you put the nail in the coffin.

edit: also was your opening text literally ‘hello’ ??lmao

[–]pythasaurus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I appreciate your different viewpoint, makes sense. I'll probably keep girls like her on the back burner in the future.

And LOL nah my first text was "hey it's Pythasaurus".

[–]Startlivingfornow3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cheers, I gamed a number of girls in my class over the course of uni and found that the hotter ones always needed a little more time.

You should try getting another girls number in front of the 9, that will kick her into competition mode.

Good luck

[–]aanarchist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Your logistics were absolutely awful though. I talked to her for 15 minutes and I sat next to her, then I asked her out and she said no. Do you understand that you are nothing to her? You need to spend some time doing things that you can claim made you a man, because you don't sound like a man. I'm not talking about gym, I mean character building and developing real interests in life. Otherwise you're going to be another nothing who wasted time and money at some pointless college.

[–]pythasaurus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You literally just heard logistics and you already made your mind up that I don't sound like a man? Anyway, I'm pursuing as many hobbies as my timetable can fit. I'm not going to stop gaming women until I wake up one day and suddenly feel I've become 'a man', whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. I will game while I improve myself, and learn from my failures like I learned from the other comments on this post. Thanks.

[–]Classy_Amir0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh fuck off...

Is what you should've said!

[–]Brain_Beam0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

No means not right now. By deleting her number and contact info you seem like you're over thinking hard. Let it go bud

[–]pythasaurus6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why would I bother keeping her number? Genuinely curious as I don't see it working in my favour in any way, but you might see something I don't.

[–]StopGaming12346 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

By deleting her information he is doing the exact opposite of "overthinking".

[–]Brain_Beam0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Not sure, it sounds like op is in his own head enough to let it bother him to the point of deleting her number. Lost his frame imo

[–]StopGaming12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, he better keeps her number and tells her how beautiful and nice she is.

[–]pythasaurus0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You didn't answer my question earlier about why I should keep her number. And now you claim I lost my frame. Not attacking you, just that you would look more credible if you could back up your points.

[–]Brain_Beam-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Tools of the trade. Wasn't gonna over do it but since you're asking. Scenario: run into her again. Kick it off. You already have her number vs asking for it again. Scenario: she's across the room at an event, ask her who her friend is thru text, see if you can spark interest.

By deleting her number you've already invalidated her while she didn't necessarily invalidate you. I'm not saying become her orbiter or text her out of the blue. But what did it hurt you to hold onto to it. Seems impulsive, and nice guy (she said no to sex I'm deleting her number) which are not red pill traits.

[–]pythasaurus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If things do spark up again, I'll just say my contacts got erased, no big deal. I mainly deleted it because I have an old BP habit of texting during my lowest days. I live in one of the most densely populated cities in the world (London), there are too many opportunities to brood over this.

[–]Brain_Beam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For sure, definitely don't brood. That's how I took it, don't give yourself a chance to text drunk or sober. But also a sign of needing to work on self control

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

so you randomly just asked her out? How was it? Did you imply the date or casual hang out? Because if the former you fucked up. Never imply a date. It should be casual that puts no pressure on her. She obviously either gets asked out a lot so it was her innate reaction to that or she is just shy (which is also possible no matter how many orbiters a woman has) and self-conscious. You need more than 15 minutes of chatting to decide, usually. I will go against the grain with my advice here, so keep reading.

Yes, some people follow the rule of "if it's not fuck yeah then next". But to have constantly a "fuck yeah" response you have to be a fucking rock star. Otherwise women need to get familiar a bit with you and then you can ask her out for a walk home or some casual activity and only THEN after you escalate during this "not a date" you can decide she is interested in you or not.

So your friend may be right, in a way. You tried to play alpha and got bitter when she rejected you. Why delete her number at all? Unless you have abundance (which you are not since you wouldn't have made this thread about HER) you should try again but be more playful and do not think about her as a "soon to be LTR" but more like casual friend.

[–]pythasaurus7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

"Tried to play alpha and got bitter when she rejected you"

Lol. What part of my post is me being bitter? I'm curious, show me. I deleted her number because of abundance. Besides, she blanked my first text, it would be beta to text her yet again. By deleting her number, I've ensured that any conversation would have to require her initiating since she still has my number.

I didn't explicitly ask her out on a date. I asked her to join me when I go out. And that was after two encounters. You say that I don't have abundance because I made this thread about her. Do you realise what sub you are on? I think you need to look at all the other responses here to realize how silly you sound. I sure am glad your way of thinking is not of the majority of this community, because frankly your response reeks of BP.

[–]spndxwra5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

you dont need this threads validation.. good work mate!

next!

[–]pythasaurus3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah appreciate most of the responses so far. Keeping this thread up so others who are also new to TRP can benefit.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy

And now you got bitter because someone gave you an advice that goes against majorities advice that you have got. Pity. Collect yourself, there are plenty of women there, no need to create threads on your failed attempts if you got so much abundance that you like to boast of.

[–]pythasaurus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd be glad to hear the minority's opinion, so long as they don't impulsively throw around words such as 'bitter' like 12 year olds.

You're either a troll or you have severe comprehension issues. 'Collect yourself' buddy.

[–]Kpwn884 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

And now you got bitter because someone gave you an advice

You gave advice? All I seem to see is you going, "Neener, neener!" Like a pussy little faggot.

Avaunt, you fairy!

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

how cute you got triggered too!



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