Has anyone ever succeeded in making a BPer swallow the red pill?

mordanus · 2015-04-17T22:24:03+00:00

I have a lot of success with everyone I explain this to. My father, brother, and friends. It has to be slow and it has to be logical. Most importantly though you have to relate to them. You have to let them know that you are there for them and not to prove them wrong. You have to be on their team.

If none of that works then they just aren't ready but you didn't burn any bridges so you can try again later.

I also think that a lot of people make the mistake of going too deep too fast. Step by step, drop by drop.

Lunchbox_Larry · 2015-04-18T05:56:56+00:00

I've had the most success in helping BP-skewed women to see the light.

Mom, grandma, sister, they all see it much quicker in my opinion.

They have an inside track to the truth after all.

The BP man has his identity and pride too tied up in it, so you must strip away layer after layer to get to him to wake up.

BluepillProfessor · 2015-04-18T14:56:26+00:00

This is called "Red Pill Knighting" and it is extremely hazardous with almost no benefit.

Read up on /u/ianironwood and his Red Pill Room about Red Knighting tactics if you insist on smashing your head against the wall.

Don't say we didn't warn you. There is a very good reason we say you don't talk about fight club.

Yes there are exceptions but even the guys who talked all the time concede it didn't help. May not have hurt as bad as we have been told but it doesn't help.

strategos_autokrator · 2015-04-20T07:11:42+00:00

No. This goes against red pill principles.

All you can do is demonstrate with actions how to act. Don't call it the pill or anything. Just bring up small things, for example, her period mood swings with regard to alpha/beta needs and so on. And if the guy likes what you say, he might act more, and trickle down stuff. The more it works, the more he might want to ask more. Once he sees you have figure out something, you can give him more concrete stuff, if he asks only. I have recommended NMMNG and MMSLP to some guys after this, without saying TRP. Some liked them and asked for more stuff, and then i mentioned TRP. Some didn't like it. Fine.

But if they don't ask, you can't help them. Just like in the matrix, you can't make them take the red pill. They have to want to take it.

[deleted] · 2015-04-17T19:16:40+00:00

/u/Archwinger has a great post touching on/ about this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/2wc1g0/mrp_beginners_guide_for_the_career_beta/

Some people you have to approach cautiously and introduce slowly. Other people are mad and ready to do something immediately and are more open to new approaches.

[EDIT] As for me ? I'm not actually sure. I try to send a lot of people here when I think they need it. Most of the time it's been online though so I'm not sure who's come and who's been affected.

I do have a single friend who is BIG into RP motherboard and techniques. He breezed into town a few months back and we didn't know this about each other and had some fun conversations. I got to live vicariously through his tales of plate spinning and looking at all his Tinder conquests.

alpha_n3rd · 2015-04-17T21:00:08+00:00

I've tried. Haven't really sold anybody on it My one buddy lifted with me for a couple of months then gave up.

dandar4600 · 2015-04-17T21:16:00+00:00

If you do this, they tell their wives, their wives make them stop hanging out with you cause you're a bad influence. Especially if their wives are of strong character. Better is to lead with example and keep quiet unless the conversation goes there naturally and you can trust them.

[deleted] · 2015-04-18T03:57:08+00:00

Yes, but only with ones who were already frustrated, but unsure why things weren't working for them. I haven't bothered with the terminally Blue.

spexer · 2015-04-20T14:44:08+00:00

I had success last night - I was having a beer with a friend last night , who just found out his wife was cheating on him.

What seemed to really draw his interest was when he would go on about how crazy it is that girls act this way, that way... and how it doesnt make any sense when they do this, that...

...and I was nonplussed, and said again and again "it makes perfect sense- All Women Are Like That.. and then I would reference the red pill forum here.

Soarinc · 2015-04-20T20:08:24+00:00

I have always been baffled why it's such a risky endeavor to share knowledge with your personal network of friends especially when they probably already trust you and you're doing them a favor -- not the other way around.

Especially if the guys are techie/geeky at all and are able to systematically analyze the information for themselves. It's an easy win/win in my opinion but 95% of TRP disagrees with my exuberance & optimism.

KyfhoMyoba · 2015-04-21T02:27:41+00:00

I've gotten two to down the pill after their wives cheated on them. One divorced immediately, the other has made it work ... so far (since 7/14). He's in trench warfare but making a go of it. He's out of the dead bedroom, but still dealing with insubordination and "independence" (read: trying to be unaccountable and associating with her friend the now ex-wife and other bad influences). He's a pretty smart guy - VERY rich MD - and has a pretty strong will/frame, so I think that he'll make it, although I don't think that she's worth it.

womanwithaquestion2 · 2015-04-21T04:59:42+00:00

I was wondering if anyone could comment if there was anything your wives could have said or done to encourage more trp behaviour?

Sepean · 2015-04-17T22:29:13+00:00

One day a man came home with lumber. He had his son unload the lumber with him as a team. He then had his son count the lumber and provide a list. He then had his son fetch each piece of wood and had his son mark each piece where his father pointed using the tape measure. Halfway through he had his son use the tape measure and point to where the mark needed to be so the father could mark it.

After the wood was marked, he had his son carry the lumber, piece by piece to the saw where he pushed it through and his father lined up the piece and cut it. Halfway through, he had his son ensure the piece was aligned, turn the saw on, and cut the wood.

Once all the wood was cut, he had his son match up the pieces to the parts in the diagram. two pieces were missing, so he told his son to measure some of the other wood, mark it, cut it, and bring the pieces back over. The son did and they had all the wood.

He then told his son to make the pieces sit like they are on this page. His son did, and smiled. His son knew what they might be making now. He aligned the pocket jig on some pieces and had his son push the drill in. then he had his son line the jig and the father pushed the drill.

After all the pocket holes were drilled, he told his son to screw the base together. His son grabbed the drill, grabbed the kreg screws, and began tightening the base unit together. On of the support aprons cracked when the screw went in and the boy panicked. The father simply looked at him.

The boy grabbed some leftover wood, made his marks, cut the wood, measured it again, then replaced the cracked piece, with the new piece. He set the jig, drilled the holes, then drove screws in. The base was now complete. The boy began reading the diagram and flipping the pages.

The father left the garage and went to get some cold drinks. When he returned, he saw his son laying out the large pieces of lumber. He was measuring them and marking them and then looking at the diagram, and then measuring again. He tried to get the wood tot he saw, but it was too heavy. He noticed his father and asked for help lifting it. Together, they raised the lumber and the boy cut the wood. they repeated the process 3 more times.

The boy laid the lumber back out and aligned the pieces. He laid the jig, and asked his father to drill the holes. The boy made some more marks on the wood as his father drilled and then he reset the jig and the father drilled some more. After the holes were drilled, the boy screwed the lumber together. The top was completed. The father left to use the bathroom.

When he returned, he found the table top propped against the base and his son lifting the other end and pushing it across the base. His son grunted and heaved and strained, but eventually got it on top of the base. His father set to start drilling the holes, but the son said not yet. The father asked why and the boy replied that they wouldn't be able to get it in the house if it was put together. The father smiled and agreed and asked what was next.

The boy replied that they need to stain it and that they should tell his mother not use the garage for a few days because the stain needed to dry. The father said that mother wouldn't like that too much, and the boy said that she would have to deal with it because it's what needed to be done to make sure the table was done right. The father smiled and got the stain down to open it. His son left to tell his mother the bad news. he could hear that she wasn't happy and was complaining, but the son just returned to the garage and closed to the door amidst his mother's objections.

The father beamed at his son and told him that it looks like he's got it from here and that if he needs help with anything... just ask.

Title	Has anyone ever succeeded in making a BPer swallow the red pill?
Author	Sepean
Upvotes	7
Comments	26
Date	April 17, 2015 6:37 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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