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No one is really gay, just bi or confused.

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Title No one is really gay, just bi or confused.
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Date 25 January 2017 09:47 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit altTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/203174
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/altTRP/comments/5q65l2/no_one_is_really_gay_just_bi_or_confused/
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[–]wingedagni3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I propose that there aren't any gay men. It simply wouldn't make sense as your sex drive is based off of wanting to produce young and fucking another guy wouldn't lead to that. On top of this any time a "gay" man is seen as attractive such as in porn he is always masculine.

There are a lot of things in nature that don't make sense.

Or, looking at it another way, maybe homosexuality is a defect of some sort in the brain. That doesn't make it not real. Some people are born with only one leg. The fact that a human with one leg "simply wouldn't make sense" doesn't mean that it's not real.

Now maybe you are using the term "man" in a generic way... but saying they aren't male is fairly absurd.

[–]hatessw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Without delving into your submission text, what basis do you have for the title? The Darwinian view is not sufficient to provide support.

What would be proper proof to you of the existence of truly gay men? What about guys who lived a normal gay life and died of old age never having felt attraction to women?

Don't forget, Darwinian evolution is roughly based on random mutations and then selection. It does not preclude any kind of maladaptive modification from coming into existence.

[–]whataboutudummy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The evolutionary reasoning for homosexuals is that they help take care of the offspring of other family members.

This notion is supported by the fact that the more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be gay.

There are some true fags out there and it makes perfect sense evolutionarily.

[–]pd_conradie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Too bad I don't really like kids. Oh well, a life of pure sodomy for me then.

[–]flazznc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I will agree with you that labels and "identities" are transparently human constructs, and are very recent in the grand scheme of things. I have said this before, but sex isn't just used for reproduction in nature. you really don't have to think to hard about this to see it at work establishing alliances and the transfer of property throughout human history. Men (and all primates) spread their semen freely to whomever come who may and, as well, use it to settle disputes, establish dominance or authority, or just for the sake of plain pleasure.

[–]eo94360 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

well unless you are bisexual none of us, we'll just laugh at young... it's weird, I only date other bisexuals I am a good I am dating a hot bi girl... I think this is one of then "my straight boyfriend" Dude.

Funny how these men never see need anyone dates these guys. meets

[–]aThrowawayathrowa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The title sort of... contradicts the text. What sort of definition of gay are you using in such a way that "everyone" is excluded and "no one" is gay?

Are you saying that gay tops who exclusively like to have sex with men don't exist, and since they're tops, they will be fine with having sex with women as well? That feminine guys aren't "gay" despite having XY chromosomes but liking guys instead of girls, and are instead..girls..with XY chromosomes? What taxonomical categories are you using?

Your second last paragraph seem less like experience sharing or theory crafting, but more of putting out a TRP worldview that doesn't help anyone, dominant or feminine, to better their game or understand each other

[–]holzy4440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We all have a combination of masculine and feminine energy in us. Most men have more masculine energy and most women have more feminine energy. Some of us are closer to an equilibrium and some of us are on opposite side.

This energy, for lack of a better word, is what determines how dominant or submissive we are, how willful or agreeable, and how logical or emotional we are.

I believe our sexual preferences arise based on our energy, and how our environment responds to that energy. Masculinity and Femininity always crave the other. However your opposite manifests its self in your environment is what you will be attracted to.

[–]pd_conradie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The attractive guys are always shown having masculine "straight" characteristics, not feminine ones or ones that bottoms portray.

It works because even though homosexual men do not really have to subscribe to the heteronormative representations of what masculinity and femininity entails, we cannot help but to refer to them. No surprise really, it's pretty much the only representations that most of us will ever be exposed to (Straight = masculine = successful = better than somebody who does not embody these traits)

It is an utterly toxic representation and the standards are usually impossible to uphold. The result? Guys like you who think that having a dick up your ass makes you less of a man. I don't know what kind of lifeless bottoms you fuck, but it is a terribly misleading generalization. Is it perhaps possible that these femmy bottoms (that you so clearly despise) are onto something? Perhaps because they are perceived to be visibly different, they are granted more freedom by their rejection from society in order to develop their own representation of what masculinity means to them, and ultimately defining how they choose to consider what it means to be a man. I think their emulation of qualities generally considered more feminine is the most basic form of rebellion against an otherwise impossible standard of masculinity.

This dysphoria around the representation of masculinity is clearly evident in the gay community where there is an even greater exaggeration of typically 'straight' qualities as a means of trying to blend in. It is in response to trying to appear straight in order to go by unnoticed and to avoid any public altercations. It is a terribly limiting perspective and ultimately pointless.

Look, you enjoy sports and cars, nothing wrong with that. Does liking those things make you straight acting? Why is it even necessary to act straight? You're a faggot just like me, deal with it. Society will inevitably perceive you as less than for no reason other than them being uncomfortable with their own held insecurities about masculinity, why do you feel the need to emulate that? I think you need to calm down on the self loathing and stop projecting your own insecurities onto the guys who you are hoping to fuck.

Fun tip for your future reference: Many butch straight men love to get pounded.

TL;DR: Stop trying to act straight, you aren't. Ultimately, nobody cares.



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