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I feel like being gay has allowed me to dodge a bullet.

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December 30, 2014
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Men must work hard and improve themselves to earn the lives they want. Women get what they want by being pretty, manipulative, and putting out. These are ideas that I commonly see popping up in the red pill community. What I've been wondering lately is if gay men necessarily fit into these same confines.

Does a gay man need to be alpha to be happy? Or can he simply align himself with higher value men to get what he wants?

I find that I exhibit few of the alpha traits I often see praised. I'm not tall or muscular, I don't make a lot of money and never plan to, and I am not an overly dominant person nor do I want to be. I am in good shape, in a few short years I will have a personally fulfilling job as a HS chemistry teacher, I have been told that I'm a sex guru, and I put out enthusiastically.

My question is this: will gay men like myself hit a wall (the gay death) similar to women or is it possible that with the right man we can be happy without strictly adhering to TRP values?

Edit: I already have a great man in my life. No longer riding the CC.


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Title I feel like being gay has allowed me to dodge a bullet.
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Upvotes 6
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Date 30 December 2014 08:41 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]plesiosaur164 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also gay and embracing Red Pill principles. Here are my thoughts:

Hitting the wall: you're still a man regardless of whether you are gay or not and you will age like other men. If you take good care of yourself (physical activity, avoiding heavy drinking, etc.), you can delay the onset of the wall. I've seen 55-year-old gay men look like they were in their late thirties.

Adhering to Red Pill Values: Although there are many Red Pill principles that apply to gay men also (e.g. developing confidence and self-respect, learning to work with the realities of the real world rather than fighting against them), there are most likely some subtle differences between Gay Red Pill and Straight Red Pill because the target in your case is a gay man rather than a straight woman. Questions (with no easy answers) you might want to ask yourself include: what do gay men find attractive? And how do you successfully manage a relationship with one?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, man.

We are men. There are unique challenges and unique opportunities to being gay and red pill.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

In economics there is such thing as supply and demand, where a price of a good is dependent on a factor of how much of that good is available and how much of a good do people want. The point of the red pill is to allow you to be the best person you can be and raise your SMV. There are two types of gay men: type 1, which is female-brained, and type 2, which is male-brained (shoutout to /u/frankie_q for posting this) and both have perfectly valid types of red pill subtypes.

Or can he simply align himself with higher value men to get what he wants?

As a gay man in the red pill, you have a little more wiggle room to play with your role in a relationship. You absolutely may align yourself with a higher value man, but only as the woman (see /r/redpillwomen for details) in the relationship and while you are still young. However, you will find that as you get older, your expectation as a gay man will change, so you will end up shifting from someone who aligns himself with a higher man as someone who is provided to having more of a provider role to someone who is currently in your position right now.

[–]ordinator20081 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second part. I am "the Higher Value Man" and OP would make a perfect fit into my life. He would add to my empire,be a trophy on my shelf, he would add to, and benefit from my success. If I can maintain my success and sexual prowess, and he can continue to be attractive and sexually proficient (don't get fat, don't get lazy), he will find joy and fulfillment in my bed. I will expect him to utilize tRP tactics on me, and male-minded thinking to keep me interested.

Being the beta to the Capital A alpha - silver backed, king of the universe, - male, is a place of status and success. The beta, in a room full of deltas is a massive win, and takes knowledge, strategy and male-mindedness to achieve.

Edit: OP - PM Me :)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I will withdraw using the words "less valued man" but I fully concur with your statement and also go as far as to say that that was the original message I was trying to convey. With that said, thank you.



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