Hi Guys,

Background, im married with 2 kids and have known about and read about game/red pill stuff, for at least 10 years and have fully internalised a lot of the ideas and concepts, its actually what got me my wife 11 years ago in the first place.

All has been well for many years, sex life ok, a bit on and off but alright. But since my 2nd child was born 3 years ago, my wife has lost attraction for me. I was oblivious as the 2 kids kept me so busy that i had the blinkers on. About a year ago she started saying it feels like were just friends now, i didnt pay much attention until a month ago she said it feels like were friends and i dont love you the way i used to, also i looked at what benefits and child maintenance i would get if we split. Oh Shit!. I can easily see why looking back, I gave up going out, working out, she was taking the lead with most day to day stuff, my clothes were a low priority and she didn't think i could control the kids very well.

I desperately dont want to lose her, mainly because of the ramifications with the kids, i cant bare the thought of not living under the same roof as them.

So, i already knew what to do, make myself more attractive in general, but since then have been reading non stop to refresh my understanding and immediately start. The 12 levels of dread post written by thebluepillproffessor and married man sex life primer (athol kay) are my main focus here.

So i immediately started focusing on our interactions to consciously pass the shit tests and leading by having a plan for the weekends activities for the family. Also ive started lifting weights at home. The affect on her has been pretty dramatic, her mood has improved hugely and she has been touching my arm often in conversation, calling me handsome and other good signs of attraction. Sex up to the talk a month ago was still ok, since then i have been very overtly sexual, and basically managed a few quickies by just pushing her down and quickly doing the deed, which she has accepted. The first 2 times she was head down, thinking of her lack of attraction to me, in a bad metal state. The 3rd time she enjoyed it but said afterwards about how unromantic just getting down to it was. The 4th time i tried she said she needs more of a build up to get her going, so i tried passionately kissing her and she started crying saying it doesn't feel right. I said dont think about it too much, stopped and went on with getting ready for work.

After the talk a month ago she refused to kiss me at all, after a week we went back to pecks, and a week after that, to slightly longer more engaged pecks. But she has a thing where she thinks about her lack of attraction when i try kissing her properly as it triggers the bad thoughts of our situation. Trouble is i need the passionate kissing to arouse her to sex, i cant keep just trying to shove it in so to speak.

What should i do?, remain overtly sexual, but not try for sex until shes had more time to build attraction from my changes, giving a greater chance of some passionate kissing leading to sex in a few weeks, or should i just keep trying, taking the refusals and risking possible tears as she thinks about her lack of attraction and thoughts of leaving, but keeping a strong "im a sexual man" frame, or something else. Would a better approach be to try escalating just kissing without trying for sex until that has improved. Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.