I came across some great comments in a thread on the OKcupid topic, which featured a wall-approaching woman who is trying to date a beta guy and doesn't understand why she is pining for her past alpha cock when she "knows" that good girls should like Nice Guys™

Comments correctly reinforced that Nice Guys™ are not attractive to women. They also do not understand why. And any chance to understand it has been brainwashed from them due to feminism.

"Women are completely oblivious to their own natures..."

/u/wakethfkupneo

Women have no incentive to understand the nuances of human sexual dynamics. In that vein, most women succeed simply by existing. Recall that their mating strategy is to get pretty and simply wait. Top that up with a heavily-frontloaded SMV.

Men, on the other hand, have every need of that knowledge. Men can easily fail and fall through the cracks. There are tons of men that no one wants to fuck. Men need to figure out what the problem is and how to fix it -- in this case, repairing their abysmal SMV's.

Just the nature of the game.

/u/Cyralea


These comments got me thinking as follows:

Women do not find these guys attractive because they are like pre-programmed radar beacons for male SMV, at least regarding their sexual nature.

While being nice shows you adhere to "modern" social expectations/legislated behaviors that have been developed within the past few hundred years, it also indicates you lack evolutionary fitness indicators.

Basically, being "nice" is a turn off (emotionally, sexually, evolutionarily...except not logically, which is why women still hold onto it as a fantasy).

Women, with their male SMV radar, can sniff this out like a good police dog. They are programmed to do this. It's in their nature and evolution gave them this incredible ability to ensure that 50% of their child's genes are the best available. We can give ladies props in this regard.

That is why they inexplicably, mysteriously, confusingly (insert hamster word here) are driven to mate with alphas. This is why they find beta nice guys unchallenging, boring, and disgusting. Their radar alerts to them to the fact that men who are unable to take, assert, punish, execute, etc. are simply not as good at surviving as potentially possible, and thus their child would not be as good at surviving either.

In short, Nice Guys™ as an institution represents everything that is risky/unsafe for women's own procreation and survival.

This is why women are confused when they meet a "safe" Nice Guy and like his beta bucks but aren't necessarily attracted to him; In terms of evolution/sex, he is actually the most UNSAFE option


Clarifications/Additions

Okay...why you acting like girls just wanna get knocked up? Not every girl is looking for a baby daddy

Yes, but while not all sex is not procreative these days, a) some of it still is, b) regardless, the factors/motivations that drive humans to have sex (regardless of intent) haven't changed.

Um, bad boys aren't the best at surviving! Nice guys are reliable and don't get in trouble in today's society!

a) Firstly, being reliable doesn't mean you are going to have higher social/money/sexual capital to spend. It only means you don't lose whatever little SMV you have in the first place. Congrats. b) Most importantly, survival is meant literally. I don't care about surviving during rush hour and making a good impression at weekly church bingo night. I mean surviving by dominating those who want to harm you + procreation.

We are fortunate to live in an era (and most of us, a part of the world) where "survival" as a word has lost its real meaning. But make no mistake, the Dark Triad "sociopaths" our society labels today would have been village/city/country/army leaders hundreds or thousands of years ago. These are the real survivors. And most importantly, they're the men who were most powerful thousands of years ago when women's evolutionary instincts were imprinted.

This is why women are attracted to "bad/crazy/evil" guys. Take away the moral presuppositions, and you realize women are attracted to "survivors" and "powerful" men. That's why redpill sexual strategy is "amoral", because survival is ultimately amoral.