Why is MRP called RP on Hard Mode?

matrixtospartanatLV · 2018-07-06T12:07:27+00:00

My understanding is MRP is TRP on hard mode because you do everything RP in front of an antagonistic protagonist.

Imagine going to MRP boot camp, life gives you the equivalent of 20+ field manuals, and every single day, while reading the manuals and trying to figure shit out, one of the cadre is constantly screaming at you, “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!!” “WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT?!!” “STOP DOING THAT!!”

All the while the only help you get are letters from home (askMRP) and to almost every question you have, the general answer is to keep reading the field manuals (sidebar), LIFT, and STFU.

So for the boys at TRP, it’s like a college class they go home from every day.

For us at MRP, it’s total immersion in the form of boot camp with antagonistic protagonists.

You OGs, if I have that all wrong, toss a grenade my way.

alphasixfour · 2018-07-06T03:39:53+00:00

Alpha status harder to achieve once she knows your beta self. Helps if you had alpha status and just got lazy, even harder for guys that were blue pilled or beta for life. The changes are simply seen as fake or rebellion against her rule.

Many scenarios that would be a hard NEXT in a dating or plate spinning context have to be dealt with differently in a marriage you decide (for whatever your reasons) to keep somewhat intact.

Abundance and dread is much harder to come by if you are committed to not spinning plates in the side.

Kids make things complicated

Intersexual dynamics, hypergamy, and familiarity are all working against you.

Divorce isn’t necessarily a lost game, the stay plan is the same as the go plan. MRP is about surviving and thriving regardless of the situation. The true measure of a man IMHO

By the way, if you think that’s hard mode, try being a Mormon... then you’ve got Nintendo hard. LOL

Rian_Stone · 2018-07-06T18:09:20+00:00

I was going to dismiss this as value trolling, but after some thought, it's a good question. I still don't think you're in a place to ask, or care about the answer, but I'm just a rando, so what does it matter?

It sometimes serves as a great attaboy for anyone who is married. For some reason, being the ol 'plow horse' really gives guys a sense or worth. anything that makes you sound like a suffering martyr is like candy for guys. If Oprah would say it, soccer moms would nod their head and clap in unison.

In realty, it's not an attaboy, but a recognition of the change in married game. when you're single, you're afforded the luxury of game being a burst activity. You can put on your best clothes, add on the charm, run game on a girl and fuck her. then when she leaves, you can throw on the cargo shorts, pull out the bag of doritos and get back to streaming minecraft letsplays.

But when you have a walking shit test thats there 24/7, and sees you, warts n all, you aren't afforded the luxury. So the question changes from "Am I able to game a girl into bed" into "Have I internalized my best qualities to the point where they are natural"

So that's whats meant by hard mode. An admission that we are lazy creatures who do just enough to get what we want, and acceptance that just enough has to be the baseline

SorcererKing · 2018-07-06T19:55:42+00:00

I think the answer has been relayed in the various comments here, but I'll just add this:

The idea of MRP as Hard Mode is not something to be proud of. It is recognition that we fucked up and now are in a hole. The same principles apply but we've lost some power with the marriage contract, so everything we do is more difficult to implement successfully. Some folks at TRP bristle at the "Hard Mode" tag line because they think we're wearing it like a badge of honor or that we think we're better at "doing TRP" because we do it in this context. Nope, just that our situation is worse, not that we're any better for it.

rpsheepdog · 2018-07-06T06:04:10+00:00

This should help

Sepean · 2018-07-06T06:21:18+00:00

What if you discover RP while married, realize the true shitty nature of your marriage (even after lifting, OYS, etc), and you actively pursue a divorce? Did you then lose this hard-mode game? Are you less of an alpha if you go that route?

No man, you don’t have to fix everything. If your car breaks down and you trade it in instead of repairing it, you’re not less of a man. Don’t let anyone shame you for their choices if you made them from a position of strength and options. There are guys here with shitty wives who stay because they are scared of change. There are guys who bailed on marriages they would be happy in if they had the guts to be RP. It’s a game where you decide what winning is.

MRP is hardmode because you have fewer options, less leverage, and less social proof. And girls start out trying to impress a man but eventuallt begin compliance testing him and requiring high amounts of beta. It’s just so much easier to spin plates and next them when they get needy.

ChokingDownRP · 2018-07-06T10:36:10+00:00

You don't "lose" by actively pursuing divorce. For some men, that is the clear path once they've unplugged. You win by having your eyes wide open and pursuing that which you believe is your best life (which you are the one and only judge of). For many here, there was a good reason we married our wives, but something went off track... hard mode is getting back on track now that she's seen what a little bitch you are. At some point, you make a decision as to whether or not she's adding value to your awesome life, and choose to stay or to go - at that point you're "winning" either way because you're choosing what's best for you, having taken the necessary steps to be sure of that.

bourbonhipster · 2018-07-06T10:44:36+00:00

Why is MRP is labeled RP on hard mode?

Because your TRP "next" button is booby trapped to trigger an instant halving of your net worth, potentially another small fortune on litigation, potential serious impact to your future earnings via alimony and/or child support, and large possibility of seeing your children's childhoods utterly fucked, likely loss of your house, etc.

Assuming you still want to have a real relationship with your ltr, she already knows all your tricks, you've likely revealed all of your mystery and have surrendered your remaining allure. As a consequence, power dynamins are greatly shifted in her favor.

In TRP land, if your woman gives you shit, you next her. If you are underwhelmed by her physicality you next her. If she sneezes and a little bit of snot dribbles down her mouth you next her. Who cares, you're just using her for a fuck anyway and you are spinning plates like crazy.

When you drop your main plate in TRP you pick up another plate. Problem solved. When you spin your single or main prized plate in mrp and it drops, you have to pick up the shattered pieces that you've built on top of that plate that was your life.

screechhater · 2018-07-06T14:24:20+00:00

Essentially, It’s all hard mode, regardless of the sub-

If you do it right, it’s non stop work, but you develop a level in your mission and frame, that allow you to identify what your standards are.

A lot of faggots on here DEER non stop to protect fragile egos and refuse to step back, admit they are the problem and apply these tools for life enrichment.

Fuck em. Nobody gives a fuck. And, no matter the attention grabbing tactics for momma’s attention, it ain’t gonna come together until they apply themselves.

Hard mode- it’s easier to walk away and blame others, then to look in the mirror, and admit failure and take the actions to correct your shit.

red-sfpplus · 2018-07-06T15:20:17+00:00

Because in a marriage or LTR where you WANT to stay, doing the work and changing the tide is far HARDER than just cutting ties and breaking in a new hoe.

abudun79 · 2018-07-06T16:50:14+00:00

Because you will not act like a child, stick your fingers in your ears, cry "You're just a plate, I don't have to listen to you" and run away to ignore everything you don't like in a marriage. It's tempting to take RP knowledge and just give up on relationship and on your biological purpose.

You will give your best to improve yourself, just like regular RP men, but you have a scale that does not lie: Your wife. If you're not in an LTR/marriage, you can tell yourself every lie about your improvement that you want to hear. It doesn't really matter, since ONS and plates will not get to know you completely. They just see the AF-side, that you carefully created to show it to her. And it's pretty easy to fake almost all of that ULTRA-ALPHANESS in front of someone who doesn't know you and barely sees you at all (compared to a wife).

And, I guess some people call it that, because in some savage countries a failed marriage can ruin your whole life forever pretty easily. But that does not apply evenly.

suprathepeg · 2018-07-06T04:09:33+00:00

When married you can’t just “practice” TRP as a sexual strategy, you have to live it as a part of your full life. Much easier to keep up some behaviours in the presence of a real late for a few hours...

mrp_awakening · 2018-07-06T10:06:42+00:00

No abundance. She gets to dictate your sex life and knows if you deviate, she can divorce rape. Makes dread a lot more difficult when unspoken threats of infidelity have no real teeth without very serious consequences. To remedy this, extreme value has to be shown (hard mode) with oys and owning the household's shit too. You need her to feel dependent on you and scared to divorce you or even scared you'd divorce her.

RedPillCoach · 2018-07-08T16:07:32+00:00

Why is MRP is labeled RP on hard mode

The common RP answer to a relationship issue is "NEXT." This is pretty easy to do. Pump. Then she starts to sink her claws into you then you Dump and move onto the next P & D.

However, if you are married "NEXT" is not an immediate option and it is a whole lot more difficult to execute so marriage is RP on hard mode.

Further, to be a successful MRP guy with a high sex marriage, you still need to be successful with other women. MRP is not about playing a dancing monkey for your harridan, sexually denying wife. You have to be attractive generally, just like any "Red Pill" guy so marriage doesn't make implementing Red Pill any easier. The opposite in fact.

gameoflibidos · 2018-07-09T15:55:37+00:00

It's easy to learn PUA and fool a chick for a few days.

It's much harder to actually change your entire mental state enough that your wife actually accepts that you have changed and deserve respect.

88Will88 · 2018-07-06T04:29:44+00:00

i'm (34) married to a blonde HB10 (27) and we have one child (4). i fuck other girls and she's ok with it. sometimes joins me. i don't see what's hard about any of it

Title	Why is MRP called RP on Hard Mode?
Author	Bear-With-Bit
Upvotes	7
Comments	45
Date	06 July 2018 03:31 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	askMRP
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