Observing My Dad Through The RP Lens

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July 4, 2018

My dad and step-mom visited this week. It's the first time I've seen him and really talked to him much since I unplugged in January. It was interesting to observe his behavior towards my step mom and her behavior towards him.


  • my dad makes EVERY decision. He controls all finances, tells her what she will make for dinner. He tells her when they're going to bed. She NEVER questions any of it.

  • my dad does whay he wants, when he wants. He fishes all the time, never asking, not always telling her. She wouldn't dare do anything without telling him what, where, when, with whom and why. Likewise, she wouldn't dare plan something with the expectation that he will do it with her, at least without asking.

  • he loves her, and shows and tells her as much. No doubt that he had given greet his faithful commitment in return for her efforts.

  • he judges himself. If she criticizes something he does, he smirks and owns it unapologetically. Not a single DEER, no real response at all, doesn't matter what she thinks.

  • I only remember one argument between them growing up: she complained about cooking, cleaning (particularly after me - she once tried to keep me from going to one of my football games because I hadn't cleaned my room or some shit). He basically told her that if she has a problem with me, ahe can address it with him and he would decide how to handle it. If she's unhappy with the situation, she's welcome to leave his home.

My dad doesn't have the alpha characteristics of muscles, etc... he's maybe 5'10", 190lbs, does exercise including some lifting... but the frame on the guy is incredible.

My questions:

Is this just the way men used to be before mass betaization? Maybe my dad is just a relic from days gone by?

Is this too much in modern society? I always saw my dad as a lazy asshole growing up. I can't imagine what he's thinking as I'm cooking, cleaning, changing diapers as well as being the sole breadwinner. I've always tried hard to not be like him... but i now see that he lives like a fucking king.

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Title Observing My Dad Through The RP Lens
Author ChokingDownRP
Upvotes 13
Comments 16
Date 04 July 2018 05:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/204247
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/8w38yp/observing_my_dad_through_the_rp_lens/
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

OK. Redpill 201:

Many of the “rules” aren’t in stone. Lifting is one of them. We say to lift because it makes attraction easier, provides a good foundation for self improvement, naturally improves confidence (and hence frame) and isn’t susceptible to excuse making.

In reality, women just want frame. Looks is a binary would fuck if circumstances are right or won’t fuck in any circumstance. Being good looking helps, but a rock solid frame will get you there.

[–]bowhunter62 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frame. Is. Everything.

[–]youcantdenythat9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe he's red pill, maybe he's a natural Chad. Maybe he's just got old-school values. Does it matter?

Time to become closer to dad and start learning from him. Not many men have a good role model now days.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your post takes me down memory lane some. My dad and mom passed away some 20 years ago, I'm the old man now.

They (mom & dad) were just like you described. I can remember my father sometimes joking with mom saying, "well, you can be replaced". He said it such a way that we all thought it was funny. He was always strong. He was always humorous.

They were both from a different time. Mom's last words were his name. Dad said nothing as he died.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dad said nothing as he died.

That's fantastic

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Is this just the way men used to be before mass betaization?

No, the majority of men of all eras and ages have been "beta". Culture changes, but human nature does not. Alphas have always been in the minority and always will be. That said, there have always been "alphas" and there always will be.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting theory. I think like this but it’s not mainstream.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Burden of performance. I'll bet he's got shit on lock as well.

Also why a lot of chicks now are insufferable cunts, they see that and think moms a prisoner and swear to never be in that situation. I'm guessing mom didn't have other options, amirite?

Youre just seeing gender roles from the past.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

My mom remarried the first beta (though no bux) she could lock down. Having 2 kids by my dad and facing the wall, her options were limited, I suppose.

As for my step mom, it has been said "I don't see why she puts up with his shit"...I have at least thought it myself at times. She is extremely happy in her life with him though... they have no children together either (she has no biological children at all). 30+ years married, both seem perfectly happy... something can be learned here.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

hope as you continue, you keep fleshing this out more. I see a lot of reflections on my family growing up in it.

[–]RackedRed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Glad there seems to at least be something to learn. My dad is so fucking blue pill it hurts. It’s why I’ve been a nice guy since birth. Very funny guy though, my friends always liked having him around in school. But man it’s hard unlearning all the traits I’ve learned following his example.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

who cares. he's doing it right. go and do thou likewise

[–]trpbritguy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is this just the way men used to be before mass betaization?

Most of them yes.. Remember, the betaization started in the late 40's as far as I can tell, when industrialization started and men came in off the fields!

[–]Rojo-Gringo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's gold! Learn from him. My dad is Alpha AF. So much so, that he had to be taught to use beta comfort. His dad was the same way. Always right, larger than life when he was in a room of people and commanding presence. My grandpa on my moms side was the f'ing Marlbro man. He was a quiet alpha like Clint Eastwood.

But some shit happened to me. I think I was born with my mom's personality, plus my dad kept everyone (especially his children) in submission. So, I think I have always been fearful of authoritative, assertive, bad asses. I'm a big and strong guy, but have been Mr. Nice Guy my whole life until I ran in to RP. I have hated confrontation and making people angry or uncomfortable with me.

After TRP, I have become way more assertive, DNGAF what most people think, much more in control of my emotions yet when I'm in the presence of another man more Alpha than me, I naturally defer to him and follow his lead. So, I have alot to learn still

[–]tmh88mrp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

plus my dad kept everyone (especially his children) in submission

Perhaps your dad was a narcissist. I think they can show alpha qualities but I don't think that's all they do. Perhaps too much alpha and no oak in sight.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s all about frame.

It’s all about leadership.

Unfortunately on today’s world, it takes the solice work in lifting to build the frame to get through the shit tests, understand women want strong leadership and attractive men.

Mass media has muddied the waters enough to make it a reality you have to be a beta bux.

In reality, everyone wants someone to have the balls to make a motherfucking decision.

I bet your stepmother is relieved to know he has it all under control, because most men cannot.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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