Questions about BF, Lifting, and Testosterone levels

CaliEd256 · 2018-06-15T17:32:11+00:00

336 is NOT FINE. That’s the average testosterone level of a 85 year old man. I started TRT about 6 weeks ago, levels around 900 right now (20 year old).

You will feel a HUNDRED TIMES BETTER on TRT. Better sex, lifting will drastically improve, attitude better, it has been a legit miracle cure for me. My previous levels were in the high 400s, so you’re worse off than I was.

Will you ever be able to convince your PCP of that? Doubtful. But he’s probably in his 50s and fat as fuck (at least mine was). Not someone I want to take Heath advice from.

There’s a clinic in Florida that does phone consultations and will 100% set you up for TRT. PM me if you want details.

red-sfpplus · 2018-06-15T17:10:25+00:00

One of my lifting buds is your height and is 190 at 35yo. He also pushes 3 plates with me and runs a full stack of gear. He also eats a cow everyday and a few chickens.

What is ripped? Skinny guy with abs or strong and you don’t care about abs?

Also, who cares what the scale says? What does the mirror say?

Your test could be high or low depending on age.

SteelToeShitKicker · 2018-06-15T21:51:38+00:00

Your T levels are shit. Go to a men's clinic, pay out of pocket if you need to. If you don't want any more kids, go straight to the needle, don't let them give you clomid/nolva. At your current levels, when you cut, you will lose all your muscle gains. When you bulk you will gain some muscle, but mostly fat. Rinse and repeat for years, wondering why you can't ever reach your goals.

5 months on TRT I have better gains than years with low T.

creating_my_life · 2018-06-15T17:28:46+00:00

Current target diet is 155g protein/80g fat/<25g carbs.

Don't be afraid of carbs. Be afraid of empty carbs. 155g P is on the high side. I target 0.6 to 0.8 g P of a target bodyweight (12%). Healthy carbs fuel a good workout. Eating healthy veggies is more important than "going keto".

Any examples of someone my height who is looking great – what is your weight?

I'm 5-9, look fine at 160, but could cut to 150. Extrapolate as necessary.

NoCoast82 · 2018-06-16T02:30:44+00:00

What ever you do, do not go on a fucking bulk! No one giving you that advice is your height, weight, bodyfat, fitness level, or testosterone level.

You need to focus on getting stronger, making good food choices, and getting your hormones figured out.

If you have health insurance you can get your T levels fixed with a slight manipulation, or if you have a few grand a year you can get the help of a mens clinic. Whatever you do focus on eating right, lifting heavy, and getting T in a good place.

I'm 4.5 weeks into TRT, up 4-6lbs bodyweight and all lifts slowly moving up. Also am 5'6 so ask questions please

mrp_awakening · 2018-06-18T20:09:28+00:00

Looks like you're doing keto (<25g carbs). My suggestion would be to drop the protein some and increase the fat some (especially saturated fat). If you're goal weight is 130, then 130g protein should be sufficient. You'll feel better and it'll help your testosterone. Check out the ketogains subreddit. You may stall between lifting and weight loss. It should be easier to add lean muscle when you're already lean (T levels will be higher), so if gains or weight loss or both stall, I'd push the cut harder (lower calories) first before bulking.

On point #2, see above for eating more fat (especially saturated). Cholesterol would be good too. Take Mg and Zinc supplements. While losing weight, Estrogen can spike and T can fall (estrogen is stored inside fat cells). Once you've lost weight though, E falls and T will go up (fat converts T to E). You're only 6mo in lifting as well. When your lifts start getting seriously heavier, you'll get more test boost from the gym. People are saying 336 is not fine, but I'd recommend getting to your target weight and holding there for a bit and retesting your levels. Fat loss and muscle gains may be all you need and that would be a better solution to committing to a lifetime of TRT.

nastynickdr · 2018-06-15T19:58:38+00:00

Your test is on the lowish side. You should also check estrogen and thyroid hormones.

Work on raising it. You could try naturally first. Stop eating processed crap, eat just real food. Do everything that is said here for at least 3-6 months and re-test:

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-increase-testosterone-naturally/

Or you can go the TRT route, but you need to research a lot about it and get a GOOD doctor, or he can screw you up for life.

https://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Guide-Second-Nelson-Vergel-ebook/dp/B003JBI22A/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529092032&sr=1-1&keywords=testosterone+a+mans+guide

https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer-ebook/dp/B017PX5KSQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1529092184&sr=1-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone

I want to be ripped, but every chart that I look at for bf% shows that my weight for 15% being 118-130lbs.

This is for someone who doesnt lift, forget about that and BMI charts.

Look at this motherfucker. He weights 242 pounds at 5'10", acording to BMI index he is obese or whatever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Green_(powerlifter)

http://catalysttrainingsystems.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/dan-green-deadlift.jpg

fuckmrp · 2018-06-15T17:40:50+00:00

I'm 6ft, 195 and I stay around 10%, visible abs year round. Took me fucking years to get here. I plan my goals in 6 months increments. "I've been lifting about 6 weeks now" fucking hilarious...

RedPill-BlackLotus · 2018-06-15T17:39:09+00:00

High level crossfit competitors are about your hight and ripped as shit. Have a look at Rich fronong for a good example of a jacked manlet.

Let's not lose sight of the actual goal here and that's to look good. As red says, fuck the scale, go by what the mirror says. And you are kind of lucky because it's a lot easier to look jacked at your hight. Pro bodybuilders are usually around 5'9.

Your natty testosterone levels are as flakey as bipolar woman. You would need a few samples in the low end and some solid low t symptoms yo get a legit prescription.

If you want to do juice just read the wiki on the steroids sub, it has everything you need.

Keep at It man.

Title	Questions about BF, Lifting, and Testosterone levels
Author	magnoliagent123
Upvotes	13
Comments	32
Date	15 June 2018 05:00 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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