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Today I have been discriminated against

by mrpthrowa | May 25, 2018 | askMRP

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I’m one of the “rockstars” of my Fortune 100 company.

If you have been following uk news you’ll know that recently every company has been forced to disclose a meaningless gender paygap that doesn’t portray any useful shit

In 6 years I worked my ass off and got myself on the executive fast track

Built entire teams across multiple continents to deliver 100s millions of revenue

Been eying this internal position for a while. A dream executive job that is well placed for my career

I interview and impress with flying colours. My accomplishments and references speak for themselves

The job gets given to some damsel who doesn’t know her left from right

I ask for feedback got told she was given it because of gender affirmative action

Never mind that I’m one of the least represented minorities in this place

Gentlemen we are in a world where you are explicitly told you are being passed over because you’re a man right in the fucking face and you can do nothing about it

Fuck this shit

I am bruised disgusted I’ve never felt this low in my life


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Title Today I have been discriminated against
Author mrpthrowa
Upvotes 24
Comments 41
Date 25 May 2018 05:12 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/204435
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[–]weakandsensitive9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Smart people make their own luck.

[–]Hillary_For_Prison9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The dude made his own luck and got fucked over because he's a dude.

[–]johneyapocalypse4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

They don't whine about being victims of an unfair world?

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, it never hurts to vent, but once and be done with it.

[–]WesternhagenWinner11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I will tell you this. In my company, I know a man who was explicitly told, by a female supervisor, not to apply for an opening that would have been a big promotion for him because he is a man. He didn't even get to interview for it! And other men were given the "don't bother applying" warning, too.

But this man just gave two weeks notice to leave for another company (whose name you would know) for a huge raise and promotion that our company could not possibly match. That is the best revenge - go get your "dream job" elsewhere.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a company won't promote you because of "reasons", go find a better job elsewhere. I did this.

Who is the prize here....

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If your wife told you that she prefers to have sex with another man because she cares about equity and he hasn't had sex in years, you would divorce and find a better wife.

If you're as good as you say, then find another company who will acknowledge your skills and pay for it, but stop whining.

You lack abundance.

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

In my experience, the women who get promoted for being women quickly burn out or flame out, and a man is brought in to clean up the mess. I'd stay low key and wait for the right moment, then take it, but that's just my 2cents.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like it. Subtly add fuel to ensure she burns.

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The last time I had a female boss, she constantly deferred to me to help her make decisions. No one really knew what was going on until I made a bad decision and her boss tried to chew her out. She threw me under the bus and tried to deflect blame. I owned it, explained my reasoning and they moved her out and moved me in a few months later. Leadership isn't hard, but it takes accountability and personal agency, which few women I know have.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Often it happens, but, just as often, the fuckups stay right where they can suck money out of the system until they retire. Then, they recommend another of their cat lady friends, who get it.

[–]gameoflibidos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this for sure.. I've generally found that women are far too emotional to be in high leadership positions. If shit starts to go down.. all logic and plan is thrown out the window and it becomes meltdown act on immediate emotion time and everything goes to shit.

[–]nastynickdrRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I dont care if you are a millionaire executive or whatever.

Abundance mentality is key to everything in life.

Build your life so that other people´s shit will affect you the least possible. If you have a job you cant quit/get fired, no other sources of revenues, no savings, not investing in your career etc, no secondary income, you are screwed.

They fired you, the reason doesnt matter. Who´s behind it doesnt matter. Gender equality is unfair or whatever, doesnt matter. Just like when a woman breaks up with you / cheats on you, the reason doesnt matter. You walk and move on with your life.

[–]ellifino5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It sucks, and sounds like you were screwed over on this one. The good news for you is that you play the game well, it just didn't work in your favor this time. She's near retired. You know the position will open again relatively soon. Let the powers-that-be know that you want that job, and prove you are capable of handling it, and doing better than the current occupant. Maybe she fucks it up so bad, they look for a replacement in 3 months.

Now is not the time to take your foot off the gas. Your MAP is not threatened by this, it's a slight delay on your path. Adversity is a great teacher, so learn from it, and keep moving.

[–]Kingofdeadbedroom2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tough luck.

Maintaining an abundance mentality applies to jobs as well as women. Don't be bitter, but look after your best interests.

[–]crimson_chris2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd just say rock your shit and keep moving on. Wallowing in negative thoughts will not get you shit. My pretty recent story.

Company A: It was my dream job. I busted my ass for two years. I was working only with cross functional partners 1-3 levels above meet. I was implementing huge company wide programs that had never been done before. After 2yrs, I asked to be promoted to director or I'd walk. I was told that I was not ready for promotion. I walked. I had an offer waiting (abundance).

Company B: I got a $25k pay raise plus a $10k bonus. Much better benefits but - was reporting to someone with basically the same experience as mine. Was bored. Stayed there for a year. Was recruited by Company C. Decided to take the better opportunity with a ton more options (abundance).

Company C: Top, top echelon company. Took a $2k pay cut but got a $25k signing bonus + stock grant worth @ $120k that will vest over 4yrs. Still reporting to someone with @ the same experience as me, but I liked the work and my manager. 9months in, he takes a new role. It's decided that a woman on the team will now be the lead. I am a little pissed, but we were both equally qualified.

As of today she has had the role for two months but has decided to leave the company. I am now the team lead. This is HUGE for my career right now. Three years ago I would not have dreamed that I'd have this opportunity. I got the role through attrition - but it's mine for now until I fuck up. Work hard. Kick ass. Be confident. Create your abundance.

One of my biggest take-aways from MRP is not to take shit personal. It's all feedback. Feedback is a gift. I am choosing to learn from all the times I was "passed over". You have to decide what to do with your feedback.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chillax, dude. You can complain about your situation or do something about it.

As others have suggested, bide your time, and wait to pick up the pieces. Also, see what else is out there on the market. Point is, you have options. Figure out what they are and pick your best one.

[–]Quade0076 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you play the race card? Not sure if you've got it but why the fuck not? Play the game you're in, not the game you wish you were in.

In my industry we have similar issues but luckily there's enough regular guys in positions of authority. Unfortunately there's plenty of up and coming cunty feminists in our ranks. Chin up mate, you keep attaching your mission and go for the next opportunity

[–]2ndalRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're explicitly told you were denied solely because of your gender, isn't that descrimination? I believe it would be in the U.S. My guess there many other factors at play here.

My advice is to keep your head down and keep pushing forward. Work harder than everyone else and you will win no matter what, though the prize may be different than you think.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sanity check. This is not a situation to be upset with. Law 36.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Nothing new brother, I trained both my supervisor and manager, who still need guidance when it comes to knowing their arse from their elbow.

I find satisfaction and income from outside activities.

[–]470_2_700_nm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shut the fuck up and pull yourself together.

Don’t base your self worth on others assessment of you. You really think you’d be happy as an exec in this matrixed organization? Maybe.

But now that you didn’t get it you want to come here and get a hug.

Don’t play the victim card here mother fucker. This isn’t MGTOW.

Get back on your feet and play the game.

[–]quentinthequibbler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congratulations!!! For the first time in your life you were discriminated against for your gender as a fully grown adult. You made it pretty far.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't give me this MGTOW bullshit. Grow up. Life sucks.

guess what? Sucks more when you're stupid.

Realize that there is no more loyalty with corporations. There once was. There was once a reason to work for the same place for years on end....now? Not any more. Jobs are as disposable as you are.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fight fire with fire.

Tell them you identify as "Hir" and are Incensed that the decision to pass you over was obviously a thinly veiled sexist policy perpetrated by the patriarchy of the company, and you'll be seeking damages.

Fuck affirmative action.

Might even get Kaitlin to pick up your torch.

And not even in a faggy way. Unless that's something you'd like. In which case grab that big throbbing torch and swing it around like the proud gender pronoun swapping minority you are, girl!

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That sucks for you, big time. I feel for ya.

Interestingly, Scott Adams, author of "Dilbert" had the same experience, not once, but twice, and in the 1980s. You might find inspiration in his newest book "How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big," where he tells that (and other useful) stories of dead ends and failures.

As for your current situation. Fuck em; time to hit the job boards. Go to work for the competition, go international, get bold. If you're as good as you think you are and you work as hard as you say, the world is your oyster.

[–]markpf732 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Play the game better next time. You’re not as good as you think.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Short of an EMT, everyone is disposable.

There is no better Imo, only abundance

[–]Bobsfreestuff4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You got beat out for a job by a nearly retired women who does not know her left arm from her right.

You are not the rockstar you think you are.

LOL Faggot.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“got told she was given it because of gender affirmative action”

Troll. Sounds like water cooler talk your bro told you. The company wouldn’t tell you that faggot.

Fuck off.

[–]JitsuBrad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes ish isn't fair, but acting like a victim will keep you powerless. Man the F up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

the fuck is this here for

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hmmm... it looks like everyone that called you a pussy or a faggot for your bullshit got downvoted once. I wonder who could have done that OP? Weak.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh fuck me.

My grandfather picked fruit for farmers My uncle was told no to several promotions because of his heritage. He is a millionaire

My brother was denied VA benefits many times, because with our last name are used to pain. He is known as thd baddest motherfuvket that ever donned an SAR uniform. He now has his bennies, he bombarded every fucking VA office in the area and senators started calling on his behalf

You are not a victim, and if you were ready the slot would have been yours

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm a rock star. When the company started to tell me 'You should be happy, it's only fair that you got fucked over. We're going to fix things so that you don't in the future...."

I told them, you're right, and left.

When your boss has his cock in your mouth and he comes in your mouth after promising you he wouldn't do you really have the right to be mad?

Whether they told you that because it's true or because of some other reason, the message is clear. They hired someone else.

Watch peoples actions, don't listen to words. Sorry I'm late to this one.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm surprised you've only just heard this now. I've been hearing it since 07

[–]matrixtospartanatLVRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Who does Mark Zuckerberg work for?

Who did John Rockefeller work for?

Who did Donald Trump work for?

Who did Steve Jobs work work?

Who did Walt Disney work for?

The list goes on and on and on.

You have skills, talents, experience, and intelligence.

Now all you need is the drive and ambition to do for yourself what you so willingly do for others.

I’ve worked at my job for 28+ years.

And I lament that if I had worked half as hard for myself as I have for them, I’d probably be a multimillionaire.

I’m starting a business.

But it will be small with my credentials and experience.

You, OTOH, could probably do something AMAZING.



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