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FR update one day later to my long AF post

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May 17, 2018

I thought I would start a new thread for this field report so it doesn’t get lost among the excellent advice I got yesterday. Thank you.

We had opposing schedules last night and I was home with two of the kids and she had the other two. Didn’t see her until late.

She already dinner prepped, a Thai peanut curry that she knows I love but hasn’t made for me for a couple of years.

She came home and pulled her usual routine, as we got the kids to bed she fell asleep with the last one. Lame. Determined to be OI I tried to wake her up and failing that went downstairs, took care of myshit that needed to be done and went to bed alone. Didn’t feel butthurt about it for the first time in a long time. Just letting the rope play out. She stumbled to bed about 4:00 am. Promised myself that I would reset in the morning.

Got one shit test about the beard as I was grooming it this morning. I completely ignored it with a small smile as if it was nothing. What a difference.

Pretty soon she went and told our daughter to get ready, then locked our door and laid down on the bed.

I teased her and asked if she was tired, then pretended I had been talking to the dog who was sleeping in the floor. She laughed called me a jerk and asked if I had time.

One last shit test telling me to shave as I pulled off her pants. I laughed and started to get up determined to STFU and just go to work OI.

She grabbed my hand and pulled me back down and we went at it. I expected a starfish caveman hate fuck especially when she kept pulling away as I kissed her shoulder, but I worked my DEVI game as well as I know how and soon she was enjoying it more than me and not pulling away from scratchy kisses.

It’s not the beard. It’s the frame.

OK guys. Self imposing a moratorium on mentioning my beard without being asked for at least 60 days. Enjoy the break.

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Title FR update one day later to my long AF post
Author alphasixfour
Upvotes 10
Comments 65
Date 17 May 2018 02:57 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
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[–]2ndalRed Beret19 points20 points  (14 children) | Copy

✓ mentions beard

✓✓ mentions beard again

✓✓✓ one more mention of beard for good measure

[–]PersaeusRed Beret9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

i sure as fuck he stroked his beard while pounding her

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some body oil for you girl, some beard oil for me. Flavor country!

[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hell yes I did. Twirled the mustache too like a vaudeville melodrama villain tying her to the railroad tracks.

[–]alphasixfour1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

LOL Did I mention I have a beard? It’s glorious. You should see it

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I swear if I see a u/alphasixfoursbeard show up telling us how glorious he is, I'm out.

[–]alphasixfour1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]FoxShitNasty831 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Going to try to initiate tonight.... Can i touch your beard for luck?

[–]alphasixfour1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No but your wife can if you think that will help. Ladies only.

Of course she might try to go home with me once she's seen it in person. At your own risk. Is your game strong enough? ;)

[–]FoxShitNasty830 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

All yours, hope you like your bones crushed 😂

[–]alphasixfour1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Only if by that you mean she looks like Famke Janssen and can do that leg thing like in Goldeneye...

Thanks for the laugh.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hmmm...beard...beard...where have I heard that word before?

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Paging u/BluePillProfessor. We need some bearded flair the OP.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

It’s not the beard. It’s the frame.

About fucking time you realized it. Faggot ;)

[–]alphasixfour2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah... I'm slow on the uptake I guess. :)

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Got one shit test about the beard as I was grooming it this morning. I completely ignored it with a small smile”...

Ok , good start. Now start knocking those shit tests out the water with some Over the top AA. “Chicks love how my beard tickles their pussy...”. Grow some balls.

[–]suprathepeg-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wtf is AA?

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree and amplify....

Take the persons statement and agree to it and then twist it to the extreme- all in a cocky kind of way.

Great tool to use. Even when your bros are giving you a hard time about something. Which is a male shit test - fitness testing to see if they can break your fragile frame. You pass the test by not taking it seriously.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret6 points7 points  (10 children) | Copy

Ok, so you are getting some sex as the result of your talk. Realize this will be short lived and it's back to the usual soon. Keep working on yourself. When it's back to usual, resist the urge to have the talk again.

[–]redwall921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

But the talk worked. It'll work again tonight, right? And Saturday night, too ... right???

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Harbor no illusions about the permanency of anything. More hopeful that the sex was a result of passing the shit test today than my victim puke yesterday.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Noobs are so special. You will find out soon.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not special at all. Really not expecting anything different than what I am learning. Why would I be different?

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

He's saying that this temporary fix isn't a long term solution. It's just a continuation of 'bare minimum to keep you'. It's better than an annual handjob, but you can't treat it as a fix.

It's the right direction though, enjoy it, but don't be complacent

[–]alphasixfour1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep that was my takeaway. Guess I didn’t verbalize it well enough. Thanks for clarifying.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

no. it's still about control.

[–]alphasixfour-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sex is always about power. 101 level stuff

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy


I didn't say power.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]ReddJiveRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

IMO the vote is still out on this. OP is realizing it but not why he thinks. She hasn't gathered the water and is trying to please him as much as she has realized she needs to reel her beta in.

There's still a long way to go. OP has connected dots. Ok good. Don't forget them. They will be tested soon.

It's not over. Not by a long shot.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good reminder.

[–]SBDadvanced2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

I would drop the AM. I never get why people who arent getting laid other than duty sex will use AM. AM when your wife is not attracted to you is like that kid that tries so hard to be funny but no one ever laughs at and talks shit behind their back.

Just STFU and deadlift dude. A 250 deadlift at 175 is legit shit. I was pulling that at 125 pounds. Dont bother with AM until you have a 1x bw ohp, 1.5x bw bench, 2x bw squat, and a 2.5x bw deadlift. Thats still shit but takes most a couple years of lifting with discipline to achieve.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know my lifts are nothing to brag about. No excuses just laying out where I am. Total skinny newb. Like you say. A couple of years of discipline. Haven’t had that yet.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

And totally agree on the AM thing. Sometimes it works because I can be naturally cocky/funny, but she is super witty and it can backfire into another shit test.

If I TRY to do AM I fail every time. Just like the kid who tries to hard. STFU has worked better in one day than 2 weeks of trying too hard for AM.

[–]SBDadvanced0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

You will never outwit a woman verbally. You can only out work them. Men are their best when they do, and don't tell.

This isn't about me, but I went from 125 to 175 at 5'7 over 3 years. Was a pathetic faggot and never taken seriously until I bulked up and pulled over a 2.5x bodyweight deadlift. I believe the mental toughness you gain from getting advanced powerlifting numbers is 100x better than any physical attributes you gain.

You walk different when you are strong. You walk slower, you walk with your head up, and you receive more respect from everyone.

I have absolute shit beard genetics but I grew a beard for a year just cuz and got strong AF to get over my fear of what other people think. I was shit tested every day but I didn't deer. I just kept on keeping on.

What program are you on?

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Been on stronglifts 5x5 so far with a few setbacks, one was a back injury that luckily wasn't serious but dropped me back down.

I also have a damaged hand and titanium plate in my right wrist that prevents it from bending and puts a lot of stress on my thumb joint when doing BP and OP, 200 pounds might be a hard limit for that joint.

I think its time to switch it up as well as figure out my nutrition better. Been eating high fat high protein and dropped from 23% body fat to 15% (dexa scan) Figure I need to be about 12% to really see my abs based on how I carry the fat.

Hate to bulk up and get fat, since I am mostly concerned with vanity muscles and being attractive.

May switch to nsuns program - bigger time commitment that I will have to figure out a way to swing.

Also need to get my test checked and on point.

[–]SBDadvanced1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You gain muscle easiest by bulking. It's impossible at worst, and extremely hard at best to gain muscle while losing fat, unless you are a complete Obese noob, which you are not. If you are trying to cut calories while also get stronger, how do you expect your body to accommodate for the extra output if you are in a caloric deficit?

So you need to decide if you want to be even more skinny with "abs" or bulk up and actually gain some muscle. I'd bulk to 225 if I were you over the next 3 years and then cut to 195. If you think 1.4 pounds gained a month is going to make you fat, you have trouble setting goals into the future.

It's stupid simple. Weigh yourself every morning for 7 days. Take that average and that is your week 1 average weight. If you weigh 175 for that weeks average. Aim to weigh slightly more than that the next 7 mornings by eating slightly more, less cardio and more heavy lifting etc. Take average. Repeat.

People who give up don't do the above and yo-yo for years making 0 gains and chasing their tail.

Then when you are ready to cut. You do the same damn thing except opposite and try not to lose more than 1-1.5 pounds a week. 7 day averages give you a more accurate look at your real weight.

Hit 1g per pound of lean body mass in protein per day and don't worry about the rest if you follow the above weighing method. You'll know if you need to either eat a lil more, eat a lil less, or do a lil more cardio etc. to hit the next mornings goal.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you. Most I have ever been able to bulk to was a decade ago and that was on TRT... eating like crazy etc. Could never break 200 pounds. Stalled out at 194. Guess my only holdback is wanting to be as attractive as possible so I can work the rest of my dread and MRP. Figured the best way to do that would be to not ever become a 20% bodyfat fag again. 3 years to get to where I can cut down and see my abs seems like a long time to wait especially currently at 40 years old.

I know this is a hamster fucking mental block and it is so simple that I make it complicated again. Gotta figure a way through that wall. At 40 I'm more athletic than I have ever been, and just didn't figure out this shit early in life (redpill or body composition)

[–]amalgamator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t have to do powerlifting movements - it’s just a good place for newbs to start. Go ahead and do machines and DB movements with progressive overload. Decide if you are cutting or bulking and then eat and train correctly. Count your calories and macros.

There is NO such thing as intuitive eating. Well that's not true, most humans eat intuitively and that's the obesity problem.

What people call intuitive eating means having tracked and counted for long enough that they subconsciously know how much they are eating and can better eyeball portions and such.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

You have very high aspirations for those lifts.

Those multipliers are advanced to elite lifts. Less than 10% of dedicated lifters will get to those numbers.

And no way it is happening natty.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes Thanks for the reality check. Was doing the math and then thinking no way I get to those numbers without gaining serious weight, and then of course the numbers go up.

I’m not a natural athlete by any means. Have to gut it out for every ounce. Only saving grace is I am thin instead of a fatass.

I would totally enhance if I can find a way. I’m not too lazy to put in the work, But there are some results I will never see natty. I’m built awesome if it was the 1940’s. Look just like my grandpas war photos. Skinny fucker driving tanks across Africa and Italy with Patton.

Called and made an appointment with the T doc today. Hopefully that will get me started.

[–]SBDadvanced0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

No I don't. Those are hardly advanced lifts. I hit each of those multipliers in 3 years of lifting weights starting out skinny and weak with small joints. Ya'll are just weak dude.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

No I don't.

Yes you do, and you know jack shit about lifting.

Per your own numbers, here is an example.

Lets take a 215 pound male as an example (myself)

According to you:

OHP needs to be 215 (1xbw)

Bench needs to be 322 (1.5xbw)

Squat needs to be 430 (2xbw)

Dead needs to be 537 (2.5xbw)

Advanced lifts are as follows for a 215# male

OHP: 218

Bench: 323

Squat: 421

Dead: 479

So, not only do you EXPECT OP to have ADVANCED level lifts, but in some instances you expect ELITE level lifts.

So STFU faggot and get out of here with your non-sense.


LPT: The scale is the same regardless of bodyweight.

[–]SBDadvanced0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah well thats easy shit and it depends on what standards you are looking at obviously. Those are weak ass numbers for advanced though. Was repping bodyweight on ohp after a year of 531 during my 3rd year. Pulling 470 at 170 lbs. easy

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Look I get that my lifts are still shit and I don't weigh enough at 5' 11" to be impressive yet. But I am lifting more now than I ever have been able to, and still seeing strength gains and body recomposition despite no change in body weight yet. (aside from dropping 14 pounds of water weight and fat when I first started)

Wife told me this morning that I am looking really good while touching my chest. Of course then she threw in the expected shit test "from the neck down anyway".

I laughed, grabbed her ass and told her that she should be looking at me from waist level anyway and to get down there... didn't close the deal as we were both late (I know... faggot) but we both had a laugh, kept it sexual and ratcheted up the kino. SO much better than my DEER two days ago.

Point of all this is I am interested in increasing my SMV. If getting stronger will help that, great. If getting 80% of the way there is enough to get me looking like a top 10% male, I don't really care for the Elite level strength.

Sure its nice to have, but what am I going to use it for? Competition? -not interested, already get that elsewhere. Fighting? Sorry, I carry a gun for that and have a shit ton back at the house that I am fairly awesome with. I don't drink and bar fight and haven't had to fight in 20 years.
Don't need to powerlift a Buick in order to run a three gun course under par or shoot an attacker to the ground. Also don't need to be that strong to do JiuJitsu, which I'm starting in 2 weeks.

Is it worth what it takes to get to that level if I am already running solid game and looking awesome? For me? no. More time for shooting guns and fucking my wife.

Am I there yet? not by a long shot.

I do appreciate the advice.

[–]gameoflibidos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's like a smurf with beard...

That's a very beardy story there scruffy beard. It's beardy you had some very beardy sex.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

So you got laid. Bully for you. You're getting some progress, but keep in mind this is just the initial test. If you do not keep the pedal to the metal, you will find yourself in your prior position night after night.

So what's your next steps? Still headed to the gym? Got plans for the fun?

Also, now that she's done something that you want, then you reward her with time and attention. As a example, I love it when my wife curls her hair. So every time she does that, bam, compliment. Every single time. Guess what. She's doing her hair more frequently nowadays. Operant conditioning. Positive reinforcement. Work on that as well.

[–]alphasixfour1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Great reminder and mindset. Angry beta me would let the serotonin of getting laid make him stupid and if I hadn't shaved to get laid (which I used to do) I would have caved and done extra choreplay afterward too.

Yes still headed to the gym, haven't missed a workout (except one for a back injury before I discovered the mind/body connection book thanks to a post here) - since I started in November. It started being about me and how I feel rather than a covert contract to get sex in January or February.
Yes I am doing it as part of the MRP plan, and yes it is about getting the sex and respect I want, but that comes as a side effect from becoming who I want to be -which I have largely neglected for 18 years. As far as fun, I took the suggestion yesterday from u/CaptainRaise in my post and initiated fun right away. We have a PACKED weekend with kids activities and random shit. So I just threw a ping pong tournament on our calendar for Saturday night in our basement after the kids go to bed. Sent her a quick text to let her know I had placed something new on the calendar for Saturday night. She got excited about the fun even though it is something dumb. We trash talked each other a bit, I kept it light but sexual. Plan to continue to keep it sexual building to a game of strip ping pong. OI if it doesn't though.. no expectations or covert contracts here.

As far as rewarding her with time and attention, I took your post to heart with the article about leaving a road to safety. I made sure to compliment her during sex and piled on the comfort and positive reinforcement afterward without resorting to "Thank you" beta begging like I would have in the past. Just long hugs and gentle kino on my way out the door.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Keep going man this is good stuff.

Here’s something I have noticed: 3 days. Now here is blunt newbie stuff (I’m 6 months in).

I have noticed when I am around. Doing fun stuff & leisure, I need to schedule a break in rapport. If I don’t, she will. And if she does then I DEER by default because I wasn’t expecting it. This gets my own hamster going!

If I break rapport and remove some attention I can lead the reconnect. Which is generally sex.

I think I have had one hard no in 3 months and I wasn’t even putting in any effort.

I think you are embracing the process and are seeing quick results. This is probably because your woman always knew there was an alpha inside of you.

Many times, since I started MRP I have thought: “you know what, I’m done. I have got what I needed here”. U/chadthundercock’s post : Game Theory is why we are never done.

What I got particularly from his work was that the ‘Finite Player’ is always playing to win and is overly serious about the game. You can see how this leads to our: Not playing the game just spouting the Rules as per u/rian_stone’s post. I think we both share this tendency.

In contrast to the finite player CTC pointed out that the Infinite player is okay with winning and loosing because he takes things playfully. He is looking to improve his game and make it transferable across the games he is invited to play.

Big difference right?

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep - and thank you... I realized I am and have been a Finite Player in a lot of areas of my life for a long time. Too black and white, too invested in the trivia, too serious. Time for a shift. I too have felt like I was done WAY too prematurely a couple of times. Sex increase and I was leading.. no need to improve right? WRONG. Every win makes the game harder. That's life. Never done.

[–]amalgamator0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Good job - keep it up - no brakes!!!

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

THIS TRAIN HAS... oh wait, wrong sub.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But also a great sub. MAGA

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I for one truly appreciate the frequent updates on OP’s beard-gate situation. These subs haven’t been this fun or interesting in weeks.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do what I can. "beard-gate" nice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

well i'll be

mrp works

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And I’m still enough of a newb to be legit surprised every time it does. Slowly getting better.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's not about the nail.

Welcome to the real world, faggot.

[–]alphasixfour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

there is no spoon

[–]Reach180Red Beret-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy

If you're over 26, "AF" should not be in your vocabulary.

[–]alphasixfour3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the tip grandpa. ;)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

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