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Why it’s important to fire your personal trainer

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May 11, 2018
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It all started in 2012,

(yes, I said 2012 you sorry faggots, keep reading).

--I got a very athletic dog, and I couldn’t keep up with him, even after a 5 mile walk he would be bored/still have energy, and my ass was wiped out. So I got a bike to wear him out. I forgotten how much I liked mountain biking, and my trainer said it would be a good way to lose some weight.

So off I rode, both without the dog and on the street, I put 1000 miles on that bike in 9 months, enjoyed the hell out of it, got me out of the house, and ‘active’. Now here’s the funny thing, in that nine months I lost a grand total of -1 lbs, yep that’s right cleaned up my diet and rode 1000 miles and gain 1 lb of weight,249 lbs, at 5’10”. But my trainer said, “don’t worry about it, you just in your late 30’s its ok, your body is 23 anymore”.

--So for the next 3 years I rode my bike 2 to 3 times a week (even got a custom bike) and rode the hell out of it enjoying my time and turning a wrench when things broke, but the stress of life kept creeping in. I kept having terrible stomach pains, at first thinking it was diverticulitis, I’d just kept working through the pain like my trainer said too. Well turns out it was kidney stones and gallstones. Ah don’t worry about it, pain is just means you’re getting stronger right, I mean my trainer said you can work this out with diet and exercise.

--Finally in 2015, stress caught up with me and I had to have my gallbladder pulled. The pain went away and I could eat again, which my trainer said was great, so keep eating, so I did. My trainer said don’t worry about the weight, you are just ‘big boned’, I bet if you got a DEXA scan it will show that you’re a mutant with huge bones.

Well, he was right, I had big, dense bones (z score of 2.5!) and my weight finally maxed out in December 2015, 262 lbs, 42% body fat…and I'm 5'10".

Yes, I was carrying around 110 lbs of fat on my body…Shit.

--About this time I discovered the red pill, and well, that’s another story for another day. So I got the free weights out of the attic and starting lift in February 2016 on the back porch using the Starting Strength app.

I hadn’t lifted free weights with purpose since 1997… Shit, that iron was heavy, I couldn’t walk or scratch my ass after the first day.

• Squats = 115 lbs,

• OHP = 65lbs,

• Bench = 95lbs,

• DL = 95 lbs.

--After about 2 weeks I went to the GP, had some blood work done, Total T, 223, free T 0.2…Ah that’s alright my trainer said, you’ve applied at NASA you don’t want to add any meds to your life, you can get these numbers up naturally, and my GP agreed with my trainer. So I hit it hard for 1 month, 3 days a week religiously on the back porch.

--New T levels checked after a month, Total T 270, free T of 1.2. Hell yeah, said my trainer, you can do this.

Weights are coming up, had a free membership at a Globo gym from the insurance company so I took it. Continued on Starting Strength linear progression, knee’s, back and triceps hurting constantly. Trainer said keep it up don’t be a wuss you can do it, just work through the pain, so that’s what I did. Right up until the point where I almost fell with #315lbs on a squat set…

--I ignored the advice of my trainer to watch more videos on youtube, and decided to go see a powerlifting coach in May 2016 at the same time I move to a gym that has real iron in it, powerlifters, and strongmen to boot! I weighed 255 lbs,

• SQ 240lbs 240 3x5

• OHP 115 3x5

• BP 185 3x5

• DL 225 set of 5

Form got cleaned up on all 4 lifts and I started pushing myself, having my trainer crack the whip on me 3 days a week, T levels checked Total 289, free T, 2.5, see says, my trainer, it’s coming up naturally.

--October 2016 rolls around and I’m starting to stall on my linear progression, body weight is now down to 223 lbs (25% Body fat from Navy Calculator), and I’m falling asleep at my desk almost daily.
Lifts are good, but not where I want them.

• SQ 270lbs 3,4,3

• OHP 152.5lbs 4,3,3

• BP 232.5lbs 5,5,5

• DL 335 lbs set of 4

(partial weights coming from micro plates that I bought on amazon)

--I start with Garage Gym Warrior from Andy Baker, starting a new program testing my 1 RPM.

• SQ 300lbs

• OHP 177 lbs

• BP 252lbs

• DL 375 lbs

--After I fall asleep for 2.5 hrs at my desk mid-November 2016, wife makes serious suggestion to go see hormone doctor.
I had a full blood panel done. Well lookie there, my T levels are at 299 with a free T of 2.5, and a with a wrecked endocrine system/adrenal fatigue from caloric restriction and training with low T.

Shit.

But my trainer said not to stop lifting so I didn’t, I kept at it, lowering the volume so I wouldn’t fall asleep at work, but that didn’t work, stilled crashed, daily.

It takes 4 months to get on HCG (dealing with a careful hormone doc and endocrinologist) in March 2017.
But now my brain starts working, fog is lifting, I’m only checking in with my trainer maybe once or twice a week now.

--I’m cooking with gas in May 2017, T-cyp, E2 blocker, and HCG. I’m finally tired of hearing my trainer saying “suck it up” when my right nut aches, all day, I go see a urologist. He tells me I have a twisted nut that keeps trying to cut the circulation off. My trainer says, skip the surgery, you’ll missing 6 weeks of training. I blow him off and go for surgery on my nut sack this summer.

--September 2017 I am finally finishing the 12 week program (after 9 months) of Garage Gym Warrior I test my maxes.

• SQ 380lbs 1 RPM

• OHP 205 lbs 1 RPM

• BP 315lbs 1 RPM

• DL 405 lbs 1 RPM - I was off this day, I listened to my trainer and he said to test this lift even with 3.5hrs of sleep - One of those all night shit tests, no frame...

I weigh 252 lbs, my body fat is back up to 27% by navy calculator, yes I’m a fat fuck, but I added 32 lbs of muscle in 19 months. But I don’t care right now, my MAP has me getting really fucking strong and that’s what I’m doing, fuck my trainer. I have a 18.5” neck now and a 49” chest. I know what it takes to get the weight off, and that’s what I’m doing at the end of this 12 week cycle.

So after almost 5 years, I finally fired my personal trainer.

Why did it take me so damn long? Because he’s a fucking idiot, and he’s my ego. And it takes a long time to quit listening to the bastard, the sooner you do the faster you will get where you actually need to be. So what is the fat captain doing this week (after a nasty head cold last week)?

This morning October 2017:

I weighed in at 264 lbs, (eating 4K calories a day and taking in Creatine, has added a lot of water weight)

Squats: 4x5 @ 305lbs - A 190lb increase plus another set

OHP 3x5 @ 155 lbs - A 90lb increase

DL 3x5 @325 lbs - A 230 lb increase, with multiple sets

Bench 4x5 @252 lbs will be my Wednesday's load. - A 157 lb increase, and another set

I went from being a weak ass bitch to the 1000lb club in 19 months, and most of that time with low T!

I added an extra rep on the end of the each of the last sets, just because I could.

What are my goals?

I want to Squat 405 lbs, deadlift 500lbs, do sets at 315lb on the bench and 225lbs on OHP.

It might take a while but I will get there.

So don’t make fucking excuses, I lifted with hardly any fucking T (that of a 85+ yr old man), and only the burning desire to get stronger and that’s what I did.

  • Get your T checked,
  • if your form sucks, get help,
  • and for GOD SAKE don’t listen to your ego, he’s a fool!

Do You Even Lift? I do.

Post Script:

Two days after I wrote this, I was on the bench doing 4x5 @ 252lbs, standard workout, with good warm up mind you. Last rep, of the last set, something ‘popped’, dropped the weight from about 4 inches off my chest. I yelped and one of the guys got it off my chest. Wow, that shit hurt. Wonder what happened? Still had range of motion but it hurt like a mother.

So what happened? Best I can tell, I listened to my fucking ego, again. Our gym is pretty hard core, we are in the south and the gym is non-A/C’ed, so that morning I was slipping on the bench and my feet were slipping on the floor (think humidity/condensation), so instead of stopping to reset my form, I ‘pushed’ through the pain and TORE MY PECK TENDON RIGHT OFF THE BONE!

FUCK.

Off course thinking it was a ‘just’ a muscle belly tear I tried to work back up, but no dice, waited too long (about a month) to get it looked at and it took the Doc an extra hour in the OR to pull the muscle back into position. Now here I sit with a screwed up arm and a SLOW recovery, itching to get back to the gym, all because I listened to my fucking EGO, again.

Do you Even Lift? Shit, I can’t, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t, and know when to fire your personal trainer/ego.


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Title Why it’s important to fire your personal trainer
Author captain_my_captain22
Upvotes 19
Comments 46
Date 11 May 2018 10:18 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

Deadlifts start at 135. Which is the roughly the same as 0 pounds.

  • Dom Mazetti

[–]crimson_chris0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

LOL. I could do five BP reps of 225, but I started out on 135 for DL @ two years ago. I had always avoided them. I am up to DL of 295 for 5 reps now. They are an awesome exercise but not easy to learn.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I love deads. And squats. Bench.

In that order.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

DL's are my favorite as well. Nothing like picking up heavy shit.

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hate military press

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's great! I started negative then!

[–]crimson_chris10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

  1. Get a better trainer.

  2. You primarily lose weight by eating less, not exercising more. A dumbass trainer should know this.

  3. Fuck a 1rm. I think past the age of 30 most guys are just setting yourself up for injury with a 1rm. And pussy does not care what your 1rm is.

  4. That was a long fuck post to say "Lose the ego", but the message is well received. Most of the problems guys have can be solved by losing the ego (which btw is not the same as having confidence).

[–]bourbonhipster2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was waiting for the injury report when reading the 1000 club in 19 months bravado. OP didn't disappoint. I feel for him though that must suck.

What's mostly baffling op is you're still 260# at 5'10. There's no amount of muscle that's going to make those measurements not fat. You can drop weight and still gain strength with that much bf too. So getting as strong as possible doesn't have to be sacrificed to resetting to a more normal bf%.

Get well soon, and when.you do, definitely kill that ego when lifting.

Ps you had a shitty trainer.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Pussy would rather have a skinny DYEL guy with abs than someone who is a dedicated lifter anyway.

And dedicated lifters don’t lift to get pussy.

Nothing wrong with 1rm testing. I am 38 and do it all the time.

OP tearing a pec (or whatever) pushing 250# or whatever is just a damn fool who didn’t listen to his body.

[–]crimson_chris0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. Nothing wring wrong with it but just not worth the risk for me at 42. Well, the only thing that really worries me is squats. Would rather avoid injuries as they take longer to heal past 30.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Absolutely right!
  2. Correct, unless you're a special snowflake like me and have seriously screwed up Thyroid system.
  3. 1 RPM's are for the young bucks your right, (I'm 43) , the 1 rpm was only for setting up the 12 week garage gym cycle.
  4. Yep losing the ego, but mostly it's to encourage others that lifting heavy with a consistent program is the key to big gains, even if you have other 'issues'.

[–]maxofreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck a 1rm. I think past the age of 30 most guys are just setting yourself up for injury with a 1rm. And pussy does not care what your 1rm is.

This dude... so this. I’d rather do an extra set and make it up in volume than get fucked by a lift, now that I’m past forty, I’m good with repping 315 deadlifts for a few sets instead of trying to break 400.

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

I like the twist.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I want to know about the time travel.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Only if you buy me dinner first.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I had the ladies split the bill. I got plenty of second dates.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And as another twist, about 2 months ago, I tore the sutures holding things downtown, and now, I have to have surgery again. I actually know what it means to have you nuts in a vice. Having a twisted testicle twice now in 1 year REALLY SUCKS BALLS.

And 3 weeks ago I ruptured my achilles tendon (just had surgery 2 weeks ago) and I was at the gym this evening lifting.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It took me a second read to copy who the dumbfuck trainer was.

Your 'trainer' was not a bad dude, but he suffers from a serious ailment I call Deenayal.

Deenayal is very bad for you. It puts delusions in your mind.

The delusion that you are 24 instead of 42.

The delusion that Chad from marketing and your wife are just good platonic friends.

The delusion that all is well in your life and things will get better as soon as insert desperate excuse here happens.

Deenayal, just like ego, is a serious condition folks, don't take it lightly.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hopium doesn't cure deenayal, it just makes it worse.

[–]PBL891 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

E2 is why you are keeping weight. If you aren’t on TRT get on it now! Taking an anti aromatiser with help if E2 gets high.

Once you have high T back all the problems will be much less.

Careful with the hemocrit, maybe donate some blood

[–]Reach180Red Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

What is the point of this post? It reads like a humblebrag about getting hurt.

What plate combination do you use to get to 252 lbs? Please tell me your gym has 1 lb plates, and that you use them.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Reading comprehension is not your strong suite is it? Plate math doesn't seem to be either, shesh.
I have my own micro plates that I bring to the gym with me sometimes and our gym has 1 1/4 lb and 2 1/2 lb magnets as well.

[–]Reach180Red Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

The fact that you wrote this 8 months ago and were so proud of it that you couldn't resist posting, despite blowing up your whole premise with your injury is a special kind of retarded.

Where in the post do we see an example of you NOT listening to your ego? It appears to be just another one of those things you plan on doing, like your 500 lb deadlift.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hey Numb nuts.

(Betcha didn't even catch the irony there did you)

I've had some other shit going on and posting stupid shit on the internet was pretty low on the list.

[–]Reach180Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

posting stupid shit on the internet

Got that part right.

[–]PBL890 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

What are your current T levels? Are you on TRT?

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Really bad, having trouble with my E2 levels,hematocrit, and Thyroid, having to take T3 now because my rT3 is through the roof.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Provide actual numbers or STFU.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This was from labs in Mid march. -Still had the twisted nut, hadn't had the achilles rupture yet. Slowing recovering in the gym. Also note, I'm one of those hyper sensitive to arimidex (at one point my e2 fell below 6) and that ain't good at all.

  • Total T 706, free 21.7
  • E2 56.6
  • DiTest 51
  • SHBG 29
  • Hematocrit 50.5 (not real bad, but Doc thought it was high)
  • RBC 6.03 (4.14-5.8)
  • T4 1.68
  • T3 3.4
  • rT3 38.1 (9.2-24.1) - it's been over 20 for year.

So what I suspect that is that I got trapped in a hormone cycle, too much stress (I have a 1000lb hamster living in my home, daily shitty comfort tests for over a year will get to you). This spikes my rT3, which won't let me shed the fat, which then pushes my E2 up and then being sensitive to the E2 blocker makes it hard to tritrate the amount.

On top of this now I have a testicle that gets intermittent blood supply (again) so my natural T floats that I can't be consistent with my supplements.

I think the T supplements (T-cyp twice a week + HCG every other day) have been a great aid in recovery and overall health, but I think that the Thyroid thing is jacking the recovery of my ligaments and tendons. Over the last 9 months I've felt, strong but really brittle, like cast iron. It's hard to describe.

Right now since I'm a cripple, I'm taking HCG EOD, and ramping up the T3 per docs orders and stopped the T-cyp and arimidex. Starting physical therapy for the achilles on monday, still going to the gym 3 days a week to rebuild the pectoral and I hope to get surgery, again for the nut in the next 2 weeks. (I'm like a alcoholic who hangs out at the bar, even though he can't drink) I absolutely love being at my gym, even though I can't do shit.

My plan is to restart the T after the nut surgery.

[–]NoCoast820 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Your natural T does not float once you start jabbing yourself with a needle, your natural t is gone my dude. Your twisted nut may cause some discomfort but it does not effect your current hormone levels. If any doctor is telling you otherwise you need a new doctor

What is your diet like? Low carb is supposidly bad for rt3. But no matter what you eat way to much. Yes your hormones suck, but that isnt a free pass to be fat and weak. 1000lb club is not something to brag about when your over 250lb and on trt

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow I didn't know they let eunuchs post at Askmrp! This is a first.

[–]maxofreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude... you really sound like a guy that would benefit from Keto.

In my experience, guys who are “big boned” do really well on Keto/low carb... at least until they get to a reasonable BF% (around 12 usually). And getting your BF down I suspect will have a positive effect on your T levels (not a dr, just own a gym).

And for the big lifts, Keto shouldn’t affect them too much, since it’s about burning fat, and fat doesn’t lift ;)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lift with your body.. not your ego. There's a reason why 5X% stronglifts have you start with body weight or just the bar.

[–]ImSteveMcQueen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now you need to learn about keto and later intermittent fasting.

Go keto and get your body fat adapted. This can take anywhere from 6 months to a year+. Then start intermittent fasting.

I used to have to eat every 2 hours. Now I can go 16 to 20 hours with fasted workouts, no problem. The fat just melts off, with almost no hunger. My resting metabolism has actually gone up. With no loss of strength. In fact, I'm getting stronger.

The biggest failure in science has been exercise and nutrition eduction. Once you get this sorted out, life is easy.

[–]mrpaycee0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Just out of curiosity, how were you sleeping and what were your anxiety levels like when you were diagnosed with "adrenal fatigue"?

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was sleeping all the time, like 7-9 hrs at night, and then 1-2hrs at work sometimes. Anxiety was pretty bad as well.

For me what triggered adrenal fatigue was training with low T (less than 300) 1.5 hrs at the gym 3 days a week, 2 days a week doing cardio, and my total calories were under 2500. It was just too much volume, too little calories, and too little T. I just couldn't admit to myself that I had a problem. Ego and Denial terrible combo.

[–]BobbyPeru-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I didn’t hear any legit reasons on why you should fire your personal trainer

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You should read the whole post then.

[–]BobbyPeru0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I saw lots of reasons to fire a crappy personal trainer, but not personal trainers in general

[–]DEERinRPHeadlights2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

His personal trainer was his ego. Not an actual trainer who would have given different advices.

[–]BobbyPeru1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ahhh maybe I skimmed it

That’s actually a great concept

[–]DeplorableRay-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't fire your personal trainer. This in anecdotal at best. If you hired one, it's probably because you needed one. I have one and my results have been perfectly fucking acceptable.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Good Job, here's a cookie.

[–]DeplorableRay2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll take it, you could use less cookies.

[–]Wolveryn-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

What kind of a privileged life do you need in order to have a PT for 5 years. JEEEEZUS!

I had a PT for one session once, cause it came free with my gym membership...to continue with him it was $65 a session or 3 sessions for $120.

I nearly laughed in the gym reception chicks face.

And I come from a high paying Software engineering profession with lofty free lunches, dividend paying shares in the company and bonuses.

[–]captain_my_captain22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You didn't do well at reading comprehension in school did you?



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