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Secret Phone - Part 2

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Tl;DR: Drunk Mormon Captain, Career Nice Guy Beta. I’m a Goddamn Mess. Found MRP, tried to turn things around. Found a secret burner phone couple days ago in wife’s closet. Coming up with exit plan and confront. This is my reality. I've created this shit and know I have to own It. Read “Secret Phone” for more info.

Pre-Update Note: As Rian Stone and several other red-pillers pointed out, my background is very important in my current position. I should have added it, below my update is a very thorough stats and backstory. Thanks to all the feedback guys.

Update Day 3:

Yesterday, my wife asked for sex after posting Update Day 2. Not wanting to arouse suspicion and the fact that I wanted to get off I gave her an angry, intense Fuck. She had the most intense orgasm I've heard her have in about a year. And said she needed it because she hadn't had one in a while (Mystery Chad out of town?)  Maybe, I'm fucking myself by fucking her, but I’m trying to “Act Normally” as SSS mentioned. Ok maybe I'm not acting exactly normal. I've pounded her before, but I don't think I’ve ever pounded her that hard before. She asked for it harder. She even said in a happy kind of way “You look angry when your intense,”

Today she’s said “I love you” three times before kissing me. I again said “Bye” or nothing at all. This is probably the most she's initiated kissing or said “I love you” in such a short period of time. My guess is she feels insecure about my lack of reciprocation and feels a need to chase me. My left eye is about 20/20 and my right is 20/30 but both are still hazy and still a little hard to drive. It's like being able to read everything, but through a frosted filter. Doctor said it's normal and will get better as time progresses. My next appointment is on Tuesday, where he will take out the protective contacts that I have on my eyes. She just went to a church function said how much she loves me, kissed me, and said she wished she didn’t have to go and could be home with me. Fuck. Religion or not, Hypergamy don't care.

Exit Strategy:

Still trying to figure all the logistics of the details of what I’m going to do, but it’s probably going to be a composite of what all of you have suggested. One thing I’m pretty sure of is that if she realizes that I went to a Lawyer to get divorce papers and advice, this shit is going nuclear. Will keep you posted.


Full Background:

Finances:

Engineer, 77k. Wife was in charge of paying the bills for most of marriage, always paid bills on time, but is a spender. I took over finances 2 months ago.

Stats:

6’0” 180#. 15% BF. 1RM: DL-350#, BS-255#, BP-205#, OHP:145#.

Read: NMMNG x 3, MMSLP x 1, Rational Male, Year One x 1, MAP x 1. Reading: WISNIFG. Still got a lot of work to do in career, lifting, and reading.

Backstory:

I'm 36. She's a 33 alpha widow HB8 with recent DD implants. As girl’s go she not very emotional, intelligent, and strong willed. We are both active Mormons. (Multiple-wives jokes are encouraged), meaning we attend church every sunday, have callings or jobs to fulfill in the church, and have temple recommends. We've been married 12 years with 4 kids.

Her father suffered with MS for all of her childhood and died when she was a teenager. She’s a classic “girl with a daddy problem”, but instead daddy was paralized and mentally handicap for quite a bit of her life.

During her “bad girl” years she slept with 3 guys (according to her). She got pregnant (18 years old) while living with her last non-alpha pothead beta boyfriend before she had her coming to jesus moment (aka need a good beta provider). She turned her life around and started living by the church standards a year and a half before she met me (her goody-goody Mormon betabux). I adopted her daughter after we got married “for time and all eternity” (the most Oneitist belief ever). I believe the younger three are mine, but anything is possible.

12 years later-Pre Red Pill

She started going to the gym 3 years ago when she hit her wall (Rollo you are a genius). 7 months ago she began going to the CrossFit classes at her gym and a little bit after that I came across some messages with her CrossFit coach that raised my eyebrows. He was using tame sexual innuendos  with her, sharing some sexually explicit songs with her, and she was texting it up with him for several hours almost every day. Although I never found anything explicit or even implicit from her to him, she never told him to stop until I put my foot down and told her she was having an emotional affair. She apologized but denied anything physical. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, because she would have to have lied to her ecclesiastical leadership to maintain her temple worthiness. A week later we got into a huge fight and decided to separate. I was an emotional wreck. Went to Marriage Counseling. I saw my kids almost everyday during the 2 month separation. After some reconciliation I came back home and we tried to work things out (I'll never leave my house again, unless I sell it).

Post Red Pill

Beginning of December I came across Married Red Pill via Family Alpha, as I was trying to find answers to our marital problems. I began with Rational Male, year one since it was the most easily available. It blew my mind and made me see life for what it really is. At the same time I took over the finances and found my wife had spent a lot of money. She apologized profusely, said she would ‘fix it’ and I gave her a budget. I stopped the Marriage Counseling, because it wasn’t doing anything for us. I realized that the problem was me and that some her behavior only improved because Male Counselor was acting like Alpha Daddy telling her to quit it. Unfortunately, as I was sucking in all of Year One I went Red Pill Rambo a couple of times in December, which almost ended our marriage in divorce.

The beginning of January I started reading NMMNG. I was STFU and doing my best to not be butt-hurt. I began keeping an OYS checklist in my journal and completing as much shit I could every week. Part of that was giving my kids my time, so I planned to take my daughter out to eat. I talked to her about it and found out that my wife was sharing our financial struggles with her. I was not happy. I had just finished NMMNG and I tried to set some boundaries and told my wife not to share our financial issues with our kids in the calmest way I could at that time. My Father would do this when I was a kid and it created a lot of unnecessary fear in me, which to me is a total beta move. She got upset and threatened to divorce me and left the house. After 30 minutes she came back and said that she wouldn't divorce me and agreed that she wouldn't share our financial situation with the kids anymore. We then had a great month of frequent (27 times), wild sex. She was submissive, attentive, and asking to spend time with me. I did my own things without worry of what she thought. Red-Pill was working. Shit tests were far fewer. Then last week I did the financials and found she went over $300 on our budget and on top of that she spent $400 on clothing the same day. I was angry, lost frame and we avoided each other for a couple of days. When we started talking again she said I was a ‘Jerk’. I never apologized, but went right back at the fact that she promised to ‘fix it’ and she didn’t follow through. She said ‘I’m trying.’ Same exact time she got a job as a CrossFit Coach. Also, she just got off her period so she's not pregnant. Very next day I find the burner phone slightly charged in a shoe box in her closet.


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Title Secret Phone - Part 2
Author loading__Alpha
Upvotes 12
Comments 58
Date 10 February 2018 02:36 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret20 points21 points  (8 children) | Copy

I can't believe I need to do this every few months.

Look at the evidence:

  • Duped you into supporting a child not your own. (Cucked by Proxy).
  • Consistently hides spending and uses resources without regard for where they come from.
  • Uses social conventions and structures as shaming and buffering devices to provide plausible deniability of her behavior.
  • Engages in secretive and inappropriate behavior with the opposite sex.
  • Uses family resources to cater to her own vanity.

Your flair should be "Ignores Red Flags."

STD test, DNA Test for all children, Lawyer, Separate Finances, and for fucks sake, stop fucking a sociopath in magic underwear.

Once the papers are prepared AND FILED, set them and the phone on the table in front of her and demand the truth. After any explanation given, hand the papers to her. It is up to her to save the relationship, not you.

Any further follow ups to this post should be (1) Divorcing and handling my shit, or (2) She finally saw the light, she's bent over backwards to please me, and I'm handling my shit. Anything else that results in you staying, simply puts you back in your easily manipulated place.

[–]JudgeDoom696 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

and demand the truth

Or ask her to unlock the phone and let him go through her texts. That would reveal the full truth of her communication with Chad(s).

[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's not about the reveal. At least not to me.

As part of the truth, she should unlock the phone for him without even asking. ANY sign of trickle at that point, would make her climb that much closer to impossible.

OP's default at this point should be DONE.

[–]JudgeDoom693 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

OP's default at this point should be DONE

Agreed.

If she unlocks the phone, he'll read her texts to Chad and know she's been fucking around. Then he'll have closure and can Next the vile whore with no doubts.

If she refuses to unlock the phone, he'll know she's been fucking around. Then he'll have closure and can Next the vile whore with no doubts.

[–]Throwawayhelper4201 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What if she unlocks the phone and he sees no texts, except for one to her mom, and she goes, “See, I told you this phone was only a backup for emergencies!!!”

I would imagine she deletes incriminating texts as they come.

[–]JudgeDoom691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would imagine she deletes incriminating texts as they come.

Great point.

He could demand she log onto her billing statement and see whom she's been texting. But even then, she could be using WhatsApp or SnapChat or any other App which will leave no record.

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The phone contents are irrelevant. Don’t get blinded by distractions.

[–]Chump_No_More0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Have both the divorce papers AND a tight 'post-nup' drawn by your lawyer.

Make the post-nup extremely punitive... you get custody, no alimony, pays you child support, you keep the house and all finances.

If she takes option 'A', she signs the post-nup. Otherwise option 'B' and divorce.

[–]BobbyPeru10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think your mentally mastrabating talking about “exit strategy.”

She’s cheating. Quit thinking, and start doing. Start with an attorney and get started on the paperwork

[–]JudgeDoom694 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think your mentally mastrabating talking about “exit strategy.”

He has Exit Strategy Fuckarounditis

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exit Strategy Fuckarounditis

If he picks the right a crappy attorney, the bill could be astronomical....

[–]InChargeManRed Beret17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't get sucked in by a little good sex. For all you know she is planning her exit right now and stringing you along with some sex so you are complacent and blindsided.

The plan has not changed. Get your financial ducks in a row, get your legal ducks in a row, then get started on un-fucking your life. The sooner the better. Also, watch for STDs.

There is no chance her extra phone is for any appropriate reason. IF it turns out she works for the CIA, fine, you'll find that out on the way to the lawyer. Otherwise, the plan doesn't change.

In-case you need a reminder: This woman who claims to love you was/is fucking Chad in hotter and dirtier ways then you have ever have. 100% she's had him fuck her mouth, he's pumped her mouth full of cum and she swallowed it gladly. At some point she burped, smelled his cum, and smiled to herself. This is the woman you are dealing with. Do what has to be done.

[–]Sapphire_Jizz9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

At some point she burped, smelled his cum, and smiled to herself.

fucking dying here man

[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't get sucked in by a little good sex.

This. One of best fucks I had with ex wife were the ones before I moved out.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Never can stop laughing at the typical Mormon wife and how innocent she is. Real children of god.

[–]PersaeusRed Beret5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s almost like when you suppress something you get more of it

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just got back from a kids birthday party hosted by one of the Mormon milfs my wife a I fucked a while back. Saw her cuck husband there to.

Dude has put on another 30 pounds. His wife couldn’t keep her hands off me. She was mirin’ my new sleeve tattoo I just got.

Said she thinks about my wife and I when she is forced to fuck him.

She is in the “temple” or whatever bullshit Mormons call it.

They go to church all the time as well.

He still has no clue.

[–]resolutions31611 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

I am the king of journaling. I love journaling. I have written thousands and thousands of words on this sub.

So please trust me when I say:

Stop journaling it out and execute a plan. Go to the lawyer. Hire a private detective. Fuck, cover the phone in peanut butter and then have the neighbors dog find it and pretend the dog is a detective and tell her she’s “under PAW-rest” for cheating on you.

Whatever you do, stop putting it off and start putting your plan in place.

Stop thinking about her and what she’s thinking and why she’s doing whatever the fuck she’s doing.

It’s about you now, man.

[–]TaipanshimshonRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pawrest ?? Nice !!!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Stop thinking about her and what she’s thinking and why she’s doing whatever the fuck she’s doing.

It’s about you now, man.

R316, I am impressed.

[–]resolutions3162 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Its easiest to spot your own flaws in other people.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. That's why our comments are about helping ourselves. We often teach best what we need to learn.

[–]resolutions3162 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

And teaching helps cement the lesson.

It’s one the reasons I think MRP is so valuable in general. It’s the (incredibly rare) opportunity to get harsh feedback, coupled with the ability to give that feedback to others.

[–]loading__Alpha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very good points, I was just thinking these exact things after rereading it. I need a plan quick, and act on it.

[–]quentinthequibbler1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re going to have to drop it all at once on her. Have the entire plan figured out and drop it, no dribs and drabs.

[–]resolutions3160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, this is excellent advice.

[–]EatsAll-InSight8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im going to tell you a harsh reality. If you really want to swallow the pill, be the captain and leader of your family, and achieve your mission, you should really look at the church. Like really really look.

I don’t want to hear about “oh I’ve read rough stone rolling, nothing in that bothered me” or “nah Joseph Smith wasn’t a tried and convicted conman and charlatan before he found the gold plates. I’ve heard it all before, its not news.”

There is a very finite amount of time that you have to work with in this life, and no proof whatsoever that being sealed and paying tithing will buy you your ticket to the celestial kingdom. Why donate so much money, energy, and especially time to an organization that sees you as nothing more than a tithing check?

What happens with your wife is not important. Divorce because she cheated? Great, you’re free of your obligation to the bitch. You end up becoming captain awesome and you get your dick wet every day? Great, you saved your marriage. What is important is that you take a long hard look at your religion and ask if it is tangibly doing more for you than you are doing for it. I have my suspicions of which one you’ll end up choosing, but it really depends on how strong your powers of self-deception are.

[–]rocknrollchuck2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't know if you have read this or not, but it will inspire you to have the right mindset.

[–]lololasaurus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dang. Solid read. 10/10.

[–]Rotten_Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

with recent DD implants

Every single time I hear about a wife getting a boob job she cheats on her husband.

[–]TaipanshimshonRed Beret4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

All these words.

Cut out that which is extra to your mission.

You want a divorce ? Fine. That should be the post - your logistic plans.

You don’t want a divorce ? Fine.

Your post should then be about how you’re going to improve your life in the context of being married.

All other words are you clouding your mind

[–]loading__Alpha[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck. Your Right.

[–]TaipanshimshonRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea. Sorry about that

[–]amalgamator4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Lawyer
  2. Private eye and get proof
  3. You can use this cheating as leverage - you know she won’t want to get excommunicated/found out by her family/friends/kids. Plan carefully - it doesn’t hurt that she is making money. Maybe it makes a lot of sense for her to go out and get full time employment for a year before the divorce. You want to pay that cheating bitch alimony? Bide your time - plan with your lawyer. Set this up like Count of Monte Cristo-style revenge.

[–]johneyapocalypse1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I recently parted ways with a mormon whom I had hired to execute a strategy on my behalf. I got to know him well over the years.

Certain aspects of his religion, as he described them to me, are very much at odds with what is taught here at MRP.

I'm pressed for time and will follow-up, but perhaps some of this may apply to you.

First, the manner in which he described their marriage - their union - as though they were one unit - sharing everything - seriously - he would run everything by his wife - everything - was, well, creepy. If you are sharing everything - which she clearly is not - then you are failing when it comes to MRP and being a man and leading your own life and owning your personal mission.

Sharing everything is tantamount to suicide, here, and whenever my guy - who had previously been number two at a huge company and had a serious pedigree - would start talking about this - I would look at him as though he were speaking Chinese.

I won't get into any aspect of his religion or beliefs other than that whole concept of sharing everything, and communicating everything, literally, with his wife - from meetings, to morning jogs, to discussions of work - well, don't fucking do that.

And what resolutions said is true, too. This guy journaled everything. He would role play conversations three times before having them. He suggested it required hours to prepare for simple phone calls.

It was ridiculous.

So stop doing two things, if you're doing them:

  • Journaling and ruminating and thinking everything over 100 times.
  • Sharing and communicating fucking everything. She's not you or an extension of you and neither will be the next woman. You're you, dude.

Also, take care: the faking you're trying pull off seems pretty fake.

By the way, aren't you supposed to bring this matter to your church elders and then go from there? That's what i was led to believe. Granted I'm no expert on the subject but if the methodology that was described to me applies here, you potentially have a whole lot of additional crap to deal with, no?

Made a few edits.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Couple of high level items for you.

First of all, these two points:

"A week later we got into a huge fight and decided to separate."

"She got upset and threatened to divorce me and left the house. After 30 minutes she came back and said that she wouldn't divorce me and agreed that she wouldn't share our financial situation with the kids anymore."

These two statements imply that she's checked out. Either she was not fighting fair, or she doesn't care about the marriage. Concerning for sure.

Second, given that you're early in your RP readings, I can see that you are pissed off and angry. Yes, you're pissed off at hypergamy (it doesn't care). Yes, you're pissed off at your wife. Yes, you're pissed off at yourself.

You have every right to be pissed off and angry. If I were in your shoes, I would be pissed off and angry too. I would be angry at her. Angry at myself for my poor choices. Angry at the world. I'd want to scream into the night until my voice was hoarse.

I would only suggest though that before you completely nuke everything, that you make that decision from a calm and rational mind, and not from a angry, pissed off perspective. Decisions clouded by emotion and anger can sometimes not be the best ones. And yes, I know that it is difficult, and you are justified in your anger. Take your anger out at the gym. Lift heavy weights until exhaustion.

"Unfortunately, as I was sucking in all of Year One I went Red Pill Rambo a couple of times in December, which almost ended our marriage in divorce." <-- don't go Rambo. Don't do anything stupid (see, there is a pattern in my advice).

RC's note about getting yourself tested is a good one - go to a doctor and get yourself tested. She needs to be tested as well.

Right, so say you go to a lawyer, you talk with him, get a seperation/divorce agreement drafted out, send the kids over to parents or something, and sit down with your wife with a folder. Say you start in with your conversation, and you tell her to unlock the phone. What are you going to do if she unlocks the phone, admits to a emotional affair, tells you that she's sorry and will cut off all contact (and stop going to Crossfit because that would necessarily be included as well)?

Are you going to:

a) Divorce her anyway

b) Give her the benefit of the doubt and perhaps another month to see if things really change, but do like a trial seperation

c) Forgive and stay married, as you've done some sort of cost/benefit analysis (and are high on hopium)

?

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Outstanding advice here, OP. I was thinking the same thing in response to all of the comments about the phone. Some say tell her to unlock it:; some say leave it alone. The real question here is, what are you going to do, either way?

I say you should see a lawyer and have papers drawn up. Present her with those and the phone. The divorce is a simple matter of fact. If she unlocks the phone, you won't have her excommunicated and publicly shamed. That's your only real leverage, but if she's checked out and over the church as well, then you don't even have that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

high on hopium

Amazing drug. Cheap and you find it everywhere. More deadly than Oxy-c.

[–]Red-Curious1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Red pill wasn't working. She went into crisis mode, which amped up her sexuality, then when she felt safe around you again she started to slide back. You need more time to work on your frame. You also need to stop caring what she thinks. Don't screw around with games about how you found her phone. Own up to it. Tell her you don't trust her, that you snooped, she got busted, and you're not screwing around with her until she gets tested ... if at all.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

When I was younger I wa dating this chick that had a kid. I was tapping her so I thought all was good.

We were starting to play house and an older brother took me aside. “She is “letting” you fuck her because at 25, you making 100k a year- you can provide. You aren’t really fucking someone that wants to fuck you”.

She was also fucking her ex.

I’m glad your eyes are recovering, but it may becoming increasingly clear she is a deviant cunt using you for every penny.

Time to man up and actually come up with an exit.

FYI- I let my foot off the gas in January and boy am I paying for it. So much so that an admission- catastrophic for me, came out about the last 5 years of our marriage. Not sure on my response, but I played it off as nothing affective to my frame.

I actually have a “non-give a fuck” internal reaction to it. But, the lesson learned from the older brother resonates. Is my wife “letting” me fuck her ? Or ?

I do have a plan. I am nervous at 50. This is life, move forward, in your frame

[–]InChargeManRed Beret2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy

so much so that an admission- catastrophic for me, came out about the last 5 years of our marriage.

You're really going to leave us hanging :)

[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

To avoid doxxing, a bomb was dropped about intentional - “knowingly gate keeping” to actually control me — Hamster city.

The similar esponse from me was “isn’t that Christian like ....” with a yawn

Yep.

I took out a loan yesterday for 100k at the business, paid myself back on some shit and paid off some personal things that will untie us. My attorney set up a trust in another attempt for me to have a chance at rebuilding fast - the trust is built as 1/2 hers 1/2 mine - proof to a judge I am not hiding a thing, just cataloguing it. She can have the house

Never, never believe any excuses for not fucking. Especially for five years

[–]matrixtospartanatLVRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok, you got 3 years on me.

I wasted 2 years.

But 2 years at 56yo is like wasting the first 5 minutes of the 4th quarter.

Nervous at 50?

Don’t be.

Right now, or as soon as you can, envision your life, single, alone, at 51yo.

And for the record, being alone is not an illness that needs to be cured.

The threat of being alone is how the gynocracy controls the weak.

The ability/willingness to be alone is how the strong tell the gynocracy to go fuck itself.

I’ve already heard it. “Aren’t you afraid of being alone?”

“No. I’m looking forward to it.”

You’ve been around MRP awhile and I have a lot of respect for the shit you’ve contributed.

Consider this gym time in life.

There’s a reason there are no couches in the gym. It’s a time to sweat, tear down, be uncomfortable. Divorce. Then you shower, dress, and leave stronger and better than you were.

Embrace it. Look forward to it. Create your vision. Literally.

Words of encouragement.

If you don’t need them, Great.

No extra charge.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Truth. Mrs. Monkee just got back from a brief trip with our child. Thinks the fact that I wasn't sad or lonely is itself sad. Oh well.

[–]Chump_No_More2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude, I was zeroed out at 52 and literally had to start over.

Six years ago ex was fucking a co-worker and & I found the RP. I tried the purple-pilled reconciliation thing (because, you know, scarcity) and a funny thing happened. I found myself... all of me. Even the old masculine parts my naturally alpha (but thoroughly BP) dad had instilled in me as a young boy but were buried by a society that wrote me off when I was no longer 'useful'. So, 6 months from d-day, me improving in ways I didn't know I was capable & her doing nothing, Rollo's 7th Rule smacks me upside the head like a 2x4 and I say "Fuck it!" Within a few weeks, I drove away with a couple car loads of personal items and left everything else behind.

It was a scary time. I had never been alone my entire life. I went straight from my parents, to the Navy, to being married and kids. Now it's just me starting over in an empty apartment.

Well, you know what they say about Freedom... just another word for nothing left to lose.

So, I leveraged the shit out of that... Re-connected to my passion, worked hard, took risks that I never would have taken as a (thoroughly BP) married man with kids.

Now at 58, I have everything I need (career, health, comfort) and I'm steadily working towards what few remaining things I want. Life is good.

Dude, I don't know you but from your posts and comments I know you're going to be just fine. You got this.

My only word of advise is never settle... life is too fucking short.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great FR. Several years ago I also had the Red Pill shoved up my ass and made massive changes. The epicenter of my life became myself.

Didn't lose my kids. Didnt Divorce. Did get ripped. Did get promted. Did acquire FWBs.

Everone in my circle benefitted. Sure, some haters had to go but they were never looking out for me in the first place

[–]InChargeManRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Damn... Good luck man.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus man, I'm sorry to hear that.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear. You've added a lot of value here and I have benefited from your participation. Good luck. I know you'll come out better. I'm looking at the same age and have that same fear. It's a bitch.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am sorry to hear that. As much as you can, keep us posted. Maybe we can help some along the way.

[–]johneyapocalypse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great men do great things at 50. Don't be too nervous.

Are you nuking it?

[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But, the lesson learned from the older brother resonates.

I had similar thought. All those forbidden things, my mother told me not to drink, my dad also didn't seem to like when I partied, all those "7 sins", etc.

I was well aware of "don't drink too much, don't eat too much" rule and that rule was given to me in various forms.

I did not listen in the past.

Perhaps there are more rules I am not listening to now.

Thanks for sharing your experience, OLD MAN.

[–]Bedtimeshine0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Dude fuck this. Confront her. Make her unlock it. Tell her to kick rocks if she balks or lies. Simple. Your way or it’s over.

[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I doubt he's in position to do that.

She would just laugh or gaslight by then. Or would tell him straight "I won't, you little bitch, what are you going to do about it?"

u/loading__Alpha , what are you going to do in such situation?

[–]Bedtimeshine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No choice but to walk away if you have any self respect...

[–]amalgamator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How was Valentine’s Day bro? I hope you keep posting! Hang in there!

[–]redesquire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Any updates on your situation?

[–]donedreadpirateRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What ever happened?



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