My Male Action Plan

Rian_Stone · 2017-10-02T18:45:05+00:00

K. locking down this garbage fire of a post. A few lessons for others reading:

One issue I have with this community is the lack of reason. By all means, pick me apart but do so by using reason and sound argument, not insults. I don't mind the insults. They're just not helpful in explaining how I am fucking up.

Tell me, if you were his wife, would you listen to this? OP wants to establish the ground rules on helping him, as if he's in some position to dictate how others use their time on this guy who is clearly struggling. There's a reason he's been called a faggot by just about everyone. He's ego invested, and thinks he has intrinsic worth.

I don't see it, you don't see it. He still does not.

The above MAP looks pretty straight forward, is a good foundation for any man. However, as soon as any engagement happens, you get the distinct impression of LARPING masculinity, not actually doing so. I could be wrong, but if any person in this sub are engaged the same way he engages with his family, I'm guessing I'm closer to being right than I hope I am.

He parrots the words well, but doesn't ditch the ego and implement them.

On a final note, his goal is fucked. He wants a good relationship. That's not a mans goal, that's a womans goal. Briffaults law, if she doesn't want a relationship, then no relationship occurs. There's nothing you can do to fix that. What you CAN do, is being a high quality man, whom woman fight tooth and nail to keep a relationship going, and a man happy.

And you don't get there by telling the world you deserve rational talk, and someone to hold your dick throughout your MAP, because it's not productive to hurt your little feelings.

He's read the same sidebar you have (or at least skimmed) he knows exactly what all of us know. He has 100% of the tools, and sits here asking/demanding one to talk him through it again, eggshelling our language so to be more 'useful'. I gave it a good college try, and I think I'm about done, at this point, his use to me is 'cautionary tale'. I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong. It's up to each reader to decide how much time of yours this guy is worth.

I will caution you this. Jack10ofhearts used to waste thousands of words on each poster. almost none of them are still around, and he burned out and moved on. Your time and willingness to help your fellow man has a limited supply, is this where you want to use it?

resolutions316 · 2017-10-02T14:14:12+00:00

You should be in OYS every week, if you're not. Posting here, and worrying about insults, is just fear talking. It's holding you back. Sit with it, notice it, and move through it.

Secondly: your wife will never thank you for making the money while she is a stay at home mom. For one, she intuitively thinks you're SUPPOSED to support the family; you will only be punished for NOT fulfilling that role, never thanked for fulfilling it.

What's more, being a stay at home is legitimately hard and not particularly fun most of the time. Child rearing used to be communal; now we expect one woman to handle it all. This forces her into her masculine and causes a lot of stress.

The_Litz · 2017-10-02T13:00:39+00:00

I am the mellowest person on this sub, and I do not experience this aggression you speak of.

What I do see:

Guys getting their asses ripped because they have not even read the sidebar, lifted or even attempted to grasp the Red Pill. Typically, they arrive here crying for help because their wife came home from a GNO without her panties and they want to know what they must say to her.
Ego. If your ego is going to stand in the way of your self improvement, it will be pointed out to you.
Trolls. Yep, we have them here in Redpill land.
Guys not willing to put in the work, even when all around here have gone to great lengths spoon feeding them.

On your MAP:

It is YOUR MAP, do what works for you.

If you don't want to slap your wife's ass, then don't. What may work for one person may not work for another, we are all dudes from all ages and every corner of the world sitting in a locker room comparing ~~tools~~ strategies that work or don't, fine tuning our tools in our toolboxes through a shared experience.

Now stop your faggottry and post your progress on your MAP in the OYS post on the main sub, starting fresh every week.

rebbit_reddit · 2017-10-02T18:15:30+00:00

Other things you should have learned/implemented from RP : Be fun, game your wife, flirt, kino

BobbyPeru · 2017-10-02T12:58:28+00:00

I am naturally aggressive and my wife doesn't want to be slapped on the ass

Yet

What most of us want and the whole reason we are here is because we want a good relationships

Nope. This is a BP thinking. We are here to be the best men we can be. We can't control is she comes along for the ride. Once we've become our best, we can be happy with or without her.

You have some good concepts down, but I get the feeling you're still in her frame. Your natural goal at this point is to become your own man. Become happy with yourself and develop a rock solid frame.

ReddJive · 2017-10-02T15:20:41+00:00

One issue I have with this community is the lack of reason. By all means, pick me apart but do so by using reason and sound argument, not insults. I don't mind the insults. They're just not helpful in explaining how I am fucking up.

Thanks I needed the laugh. Reason.

Which then makes me doubt how long you've really been doing this because if fat guys on the internet giving you an insult is bugging you then....you're frame is pretty weak. Not to mention this is really just a mantra of repeating all the things we tell newbies to do.

Which is then confirmed here:

Get my body fat down. Read. Learn when to say no and when to say yes. Learn to lead and delegate. She HATES being asked to do anything. I haven't earned alpha status in her mind.

Yeah so what you've done is lingered here for a while, implemented the things you felt comfortable with and didn't do the things you rationalized as what only "assholes" do.

then come here looking for what exactly? I am not sure I really understand what you are looking for?

A Cookie?

[deleted] · 2017-10-02T17:17:10+00:00

Your point about pissing on OP's here actually has some merit. I will readily admit, that I, and some others here, have little patience for OP's that want advice, but have done little or nothing, or are doing little or nothing in the way of working on themselves. Especially when OP's come here for "quick tips and tricks" to get laid, they just plain ole piss me off. It is what it is.

thunderbeyond · 2017-10-02T12:38:41+00:00

You've been torn a new one by the community more than once, right? It could be that although you've been at it "a few years" there are still some things you don't get. I'd start by heading over to r/MRP and posting on OYS instead of asking people not to call you a fag.

rocknrollchuck · 2017-10-02T15:04:31+00:00

I'm betting you have issues with controlling your emotions, don't you? So when she says a few words to get you riled up, you immediately feel the anger and frustration bubbling up inside you. Right?

Self-control is what is needed in these situations. You feel how you feel inside - but the real change happens on the outside first through self-control as you "fake it before you make it." Once you learn how to do this consistently, the dynamic will begin to change. She will continue to test you as long as she knows she can get a reaction.

[deleted] · 2017-10-02T16:59:30+00:00

Theres plenty of people who would disagree with me, but I think ADHD is a cop-out that means you are not fully synthesizing and dealing with the nuances of being you. I was dignosed with ADD years ago and given adderal. The stuff turned me into a robot and I dumped it all down the toilet one day and said fuck this. In retrospect, I think I liked the drugs more than needed them - though sure I was focused as a fucking bullet and I could clean all day too. You have to accept these mental conditions and embrace them into your reality as a choice. If you are running away from internal demons and unsorted garbage then someone tells you, oh you have ADHD here are some pills, then you are in the frame of the 'medical experts' who have given you permission to not take responsibility for being you.

I don't know. Maybe I'm a naïve crackpot when it comes to conditions like that, but I will never again accept a diagnoses like that. What helped for me in my early 20s was reading carl jung and joseph Campbell, and things like that, to see my life as a spiritual journey with hurdles and milestones, and I began to see that accepting a diagnosis was freezing my personal evolution and refraining from growth. It focused on the level or mental reward zone, medicating and living for the serotonin rush that came from accomplishment rather than the peaceful tranquility of self knowledge and confident accomplishment.

Just some thoughts.

discobolus_ · Mon Oct 2 17:28:24 2017 UTC

Childish ways to use this sub:

"Here's my plan, what do you think?"

"I'm in x situation, what should I do?"

Masculine ways to use this sub:

"Here's what I have done, here's what has changed for me"

"I was in x situation. Here's what I did. Here's what happened. here's what I did well. Here's what I think I didn't do well"

See the difference? Men do things and learn from them. Children ask for permission and validation.

SimilarSalvation · 2017-10-02T18:20:02+00:00

Well, this escalated quickly...

Your MAP looks nice but you kind of blew it in the comments.

This subreddit can be harsh (and sometimes is even too harsh for my liking) but like they wrote on another thread: not their fucking problem. We come here to ask for help - for free - and we get the help - for free - they give us, in the form and manner they want, which is sometimes very hard indeed...

It is not clear anymore in your comments if you are looking for advice, or if you are looking for a fight. Maybe you are an homesexual, maybe you are not. My guess nobody really cares which way you swing but like /u/straius said: YMMV if you are..

If you are looking for advice here, maybe you should try and filter the reactions if they offend you and try to look for their true value and meaning. If you are not looking for advice (anymore), maybe you should try trolling and wasting our time.

MRP does has its values and can really help you become the best you. You just have to learn to dodge or pass the shittest here. Because the tests in real life are way more difficult because they come from the one you love, not from some anonymous a-holes on the internet :) - And if you can discover the meaning behind these shittests, as in real life, you will uncover more about yourself, more about MRP and you will have had another opportunity to develop your frame...

Rian_Stone · 2017-10-02T12:37:11+00:00

~~Honestly, you've got 100% of the foundation down, far as I can tell. You know where you need work, and sort of have a plan to get there.~~

What more to say? At this point you should be showing others how to get it done, and not asking questions on this sub.

Training wheels man, ditch em.

~~Ill bet the finances thing was a shot to your ego, got a lot of tears and shouting? Mine was sobbing like a kid with snot bubbles over this shit~~

Disregard

matrixtospartanatLV · 2017-10-02T16:32:56+00:00

You are weak.

You DEER the comments to your posts and insult the people who you feel insulted by.

The atmosphere here is one of a locker room. Your mindset, your frame, is the portal through which you project yourself as well as receive information.

Your frame is weak.

MY assertion, based on your behavior, is that you are highly estrogenic and therefore very low in testosterone. My suggestion is that you have your levels checked, and research the meaning of the results on your own. The average doctor is fucking ignorant about testosterone.

Your line of thinking, of reason, doesn't build men. It's builds boys with pissy attitudes.

That's why you've been here two years and are not an Endorsed Contributor.

You have not worked on your frame, your attitude. Therefore you are not approaching becoming a strong, masculine man from a position of strength.

That is why you continue to fail, and WILL continue to fail, until you learn to kill your fucking ego and STFU.

Whether it's military training, the football locker room, or here in MRP, simpering in the corner complaining about how you are being talked to IS your problem.

There are body builders who can't get laid because they think like you.

Then there's the balding, unattractive nerds like Neil Strauss that have 4 digit n-counts.

Your ATTITUDE is holding you back, and will continue to do so.

I'm not going to let up on you.

I am not the reason someone thinks negatively of MRP,

YOU are.

Kill your fucking ego.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Quit DEERing the comments.

Become a MAN.

Title	My Male Action Plan
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Upvotes	6
Comments	37
Date	02 October 2017 12:08 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	askMRP
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